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| pawky|2 | Has anyone figured out how to overcome, once you have inserted an E-mail account, you cannot change the sync schedule on the ones that are unset? | 09:09 |
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| lunatix_ | Hi everyone! | 09:27 |
| lunatix_ | can someone tell me if it is normal that ambiance doesn't change when i switch my oh? | 09:27 |
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| Bysmyyr | lunatix_: is that ambiance in favorites? | 09:28 |
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| lunatix_ | yes | 09:29 |
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| lunatix_ | i read that ambiance doesn't change since a previous release | 09:30 |
| lunatix_ | but i just wanted to be sure | 09:30 |
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| lunatix_ | it's not a huge issue since i can change the ambiance manualy | 09:31 |
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| pawky|2 | nobody havig any E-mail sync problems on 1.1.0.39 ? | 09:36 |
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| hankeypancake | vi kopierar kringlor!! @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | wat | 09:41 |
| hankeypancake | lol, wrong channel (: | 09:42 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | hi Stskeeps | 09:57 |
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| iamtew | hankeypancake: inga kringlor för dig! | 13:26 |
| ggabriel | i (dis)agree | 13:27 |
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| Yaniel | hmm | 14:44 |
| Yaniel | removing items from the play queue in media player doesn't work like it used to | 14:44 |
| Yaniel | removing one works | 14:45 |
| Yaniel | but after that it always removed the one *after* the one I had selected | 14:45 |
| Yaniel | removes* | 14:45 |
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| Yaniel | noticed after upgrading to uitukka | 14:49 |
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| jmlich | hi, I will have a talk about Jolla on openalt conference (tomorrow). Here are my slides http://pcmlich.fit.vutbr.cz/tmp/2014-Jolla.pdf Should I add some topic in there? The audience is very wide, but mostly linux newbies and regular linux users. | 15:14 |
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| jmlich | btw there will be stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovrOcT1xFZM It will be in Czech. | 15:14 |
| Stskeeps | jmlich: you're saying 5.1 on one slide and 5.2 on next | 15:14 |
| jmlich | Stskeeps, thanks. fixed | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | besides that good | 15:15 |
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| Hartzi | jmlich: what about adding authors of those TOH's? | 15:16 |
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| Hartzi | obd toh :O | 15:17 |
| ggabriel | was the kbd toh mentioned? | 15:17 |
| jmlich | harrow, that is good idea. ODB TOH is proof of concept from Kimmo Lindholm | 15:17 |
| fennekki | tohknd | 15:17 |
| jmlich | ggabriel, yep | 15:17 |
| ggabriel | sorry then, scanned through too quickly | 15:17 |
| fennekki | hasn't kimmo made like half of all proof-of-concept TOHs | 15:17 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | only the old tohkbd is mentioned | 15:18 |
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| pdanek | jmlich: oh god, I forgot about OpenAlt! | 15:25 |
| pdanek | I wanted to visit... | 15:25 |
| pdanek | too late | 15:25 |
| jmlich | I wasn't aware about new keyboard TOH. I will add it. | 15:25 |
| pdanek | jmlich: http://www.jollausers.com/2014/10/jolla-tohkbd-will-hit-kickstarter-soon/ | 15:25 |
| jmlich | pdanek, there will be live stream at youtube | 15:25 |
| pdanek | jmlich: really? 1st time? | 15:26 |
| pdanek | previously it wasn't live streamed | 15:26 |
| jmlich | just my talks | 15:26 |
| pdanek | amazing | 15:26 |
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| pdanek | jmlich: where can I get the link? | 15:26 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | he posted it already | 15:27 |
| pdanek | ok sorry | 15:27 |
| pdanek | I see it above | 15:27 |
| jmlich | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovrOcT1xFZM and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dxa1HnEJII | 15:27 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | jmlich, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94010 | 15:35 |
| Morpog_PC__ | audio TOH | 15:35 |
| jmlich | Thanks | 15:37 |
| Morpog_PC__ | and tohkbd2 thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93156 | 15:37 |
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| TMavica | https://together.jolla.com/question/61539/mitakuuluu-stop-using-immediately/ | 16:24 |
| TMavica | lol | 16:24 |
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| sippis | for me newest mitakuuluu eorks just fine | 16:27 |
| sippis | *works | 16:27 |
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| mornfall | pdanek: Brno conspiracy in here? | 16:29 |
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| r0kk3rz | yes well this is what happens when you use closed protocols | 16:37 |
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| r0kk3rz | whatsapp should be thanking coderus for mitakuuluu. increasing their empire for free is a nice gesture | 16:38 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | companys are stupid most of the times | 16:48 |
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| oku | I've got three friends that got banned, all of them registered the first time through an 3rd party app | 16:49 |
| clau | hmm, I wonder why people downvote the mitakuuluu issue. | 16:50 |
| Morpog_PC__ | well, I did too and I wasn't banned | 16:50 |
| oku | I registered with an official app first time and I'm not banned. Maybe it makes a different | 16:50 |
| Morpog_PC__ | because it's already fixed | 16:50 |
| Morpog_PC__ | clau | 16:50 |
| oku | Morpog_PC__: not for everyone | 16:50 |
| clau | it's actually a real issue, coderus has acknowledged it. | 16:50 |
| Morpog_PC__ | well, you need to update | 16:50 |
| clau | Morpog_PC__: I use two accounts, on different phones | 16:51 |
| clau | one was banned, one not | 16:51 |
| oku | Morpog_PC__: I've got a friend that got banned even with the latest version | 16:51 |
| clau | someone has reported being blocked with 0.8.15 too | 16:51 |
| fennekki | I only got banned after updating, IIRC | 16:51 |
| r0kk3rz | i dont think ive been banned yet | 16:51 |
| Morpog_PC__ | wasn't banned on old, still not banned on new | 16:51 |
| clau | and, by the looks of it I'll never get the account unbanned. | 16:51 |
| clau | 48h with no response. after 72h it's going to be deleted afaik. | 16:52 |
| fennekki | clau: that doesn't mean you couldn't get it re-registered after an unban tho | 16:52 |
| clau | Morpog_PC__: if you don't have the problem it doesn't mean nobody has it | 16:52 |
| clau | fennekki: sure, if they ever bother to answer. | 16:52 |
| fennekki | yeah, yeah | 16:53 |
| fennekki | I've had it pending for a while now too | 16:53 |
| clau | how long? | 16:53 |
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| fennekki | uhh | 16:53 |
| fennekki | more than a day | 16:53 |
| Morpog_PC__ | clau, did you register? | 16:53 |
| Morpog_PC__ | or did you just use your account? | 16:53 |
| clau | normal use | 16:54 |
| clau | btw, someone reported that you need to ask for help from the whatsapp client, which spawns an email client, which doesn't work currently. | 16:54 |
| clau | this can be solved by installing a client such as K-9 Mail | 16:54 |
| fennekki | if it just sends it to the customer service address there is no difference | 16:55 |
| clau | I haven't done it yet on that phone, but I tested it on the working one and whatsapp client opens it when you try to use email from it | 16:55 |
| clau | there is, apparently | 16:55 |
| clau | https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/issues/278 | 16:55 |
| fennekki | as far as I know it's impossible to inject special headers into an email that way | 16:55 |
| clau | probably it uses some specific subject, I'll get back to you as soon as I can try it from the other phone | 16:55 |
| fennekki | and if it doesn't do that- yeah | 16:55 |
| clau | hmm, I see | 16:55 |
| fennekki | yeah you could just type the subject there by yourself inthat case | 16:55 |
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| fennekki | I just sent email and it's currently processing | 16:56 |
| fennekki | did you check zendesk | 16:56 |
| clau | no, I'll check it. | 16:57 |
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| fennekki | if it says "awaiting your response" you need to put a comment there and it'll continue processing | 16:57 |
| clau | gtg, I'll be back a tad later | 16:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | i wonder if whatsapp has patented the whole 'your phone number is your username thing' | 17:01 |
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| r0kk3rz | because really, thats all that makes whatsapp special | 17:01 |
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| oku | Yeah, the point it's so popular is it's so easy. The problem with every other solution is that they're too complicated to start with for average Joe/Jane. | 17:07 |
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| oku | Open source solutions fail that part. They can be very amaizing if we only see the technical part, but the problem is that your dad or my girlfriend don't give a shit about the protocol's inner workings. Only thing that matters is the user experience | 17:09 |
| oku | It doesn't help me any if I can use XMPP with my geek friends if still most of my friends don't use it. | 17:10 |
| oku | That fact renders XMPP useless | 17:10 |
| oku | We need out of the box working solution for android and iphone for it to become popular and for jolla for us to use | 17:11 |
| r0kk3rz | well obviously | 17:11 |
| r0kk3rz | none of my friends have a jphone | 17:11 |
| r0kk3rz | so a sailfish only app is of limited use | 17:11 |
| oku | yeah | 17:12 |
| Aard | r0kk3rz: the solution obviously is to get better friends | 17:12 |
| oku | it needs to work on iphone and android | 17:12 |
| r0kk3rz | Aard: i think so | 17:12 |
| oku | and it needs to be easy | 17:12 |
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| * Aard does not have many people I'm communicating with without a jolla | 17:12 | |
| oku | Aard: well I'm not changing my girlfriend for using the wrong software. If you think everybody should do that you're either insane or forever alone. | 17:13 |
| r0kk3rz | well whatsapp already has the user inertia though, so simply being feature competitive with whatsapp is probably not going to do it | 17:13 |
| r0kk3rz | unless you push the whole 'facebook evil' stuff | 17:13 |
| Nav | They are | 17:13 |
| Aard | oku: my wife uses a jolla :p | 17:13 |
| Nav | and I do :-) | 17:13 |
| oku | Aard: well you're rare species :D | 17:13 |
| r0kk3rz | well its a bit much to ask auswegians to import a phone from finland | 17:14 |
| * Nav is perfectly happy with open standards where I can run my own servers for things | 17:14 | |
| oku | my girlfriend doesn't give a shit about the software she uses | 17:14 |
| Aard | oku: for the 'insane' bit you can probably do a poll here, might get some confirmations | 17:14 |
| r0kk3rz | i only bought one after seeing one in a DNA store in turku | 17:14 |
| oku | :D | 17:14 |
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| r0kk3rz | i wonder how specials ricochet thing is coming along | 17:34 |
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| pdanek | mornfall: why conspiracy? :) | 18:02 |
| Morpog_PC__ | Aard, we as users would like to have Jolla talk with Whatsapp inc., if they don't make a native app you guys could at least try to get them to not ban our inofficial solutions. | 18:03 |
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| Stskeeps | 10 bucks it'd end up with them telling why they ban but at that point we'd be under NDA in conversations and then we can't tell how to fix.. :P | 18:03 |
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| * Aard would bet 100 bucks on them not even talking to us | 18:04 | |
| Morpog_PC__ | :( | 18:04 |
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| Aard | Morpog_PC__: we try to have the android whatsapp app working fine, which currently is probably the best we can do | 18:05 |
| Stskeeps | Aard: people seem to bring up notifications as not working properly though | 18:05 |
| Stskeeps | not sure what that's about as i'm not really touching dalvik side | 18:05 |
| Morpog_PC__ | well, yeah, that would be my last solution, but I try to stay at native apps as long as I can | 18:06 |
| Aard | Stskeeps: where? didn't hear that so far | 18:06 |
| Morpog_PC__ | notifications never seem to work stable on any android app | 18:06 |
| Morpog_PC__ | also you don't get them in notification center since update 2 or 3 | 18:06 |
| Morpog_PC__ | iirc | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | Morpog_PC__: could you elaborate a bit to aard about it? | 18:07 |
| Aard | Morpog_PC__: I have lots of android notifications in there | 18:07 |
| Morpog_PC__ | let's say amazon app store | 18:07 |
| Morpog_PC__ | sometimes i get notifications about updates, but most times not | 18:08 |
| Morpog_PC__ | I seem to only get them if I have started the amazon app once in a while | 18:08 |
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| pdanek | Sailfish WhatsApp app was the best thing out there. | 18:10 |
| pdanek | :( | 18:10 |
| Morpog_PC__ | Aard, the notifications i missed was in lockscreen, not notification center, i mixed that up | 18:11 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | also it seems you need to let whatsapp app open to get notofications, but this is from memory, last time I tried android in dalvik was with update 1 :D | 18:13 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i get android notifications in the notification centre | 18:13 |
| r0kk3rz | but dont get notified to check the notification centre as such | 18:13 |
| Morpog_PC__ | r0kk3rz, but you also get them kinda random? | 18:13 |
| r0kk3rz | well with no queue to check the notifications panel, its hard to tell | 18:14 |
| r0kk3rz | ¤ | 18:14 |
| r0kk3rz | que | 18:14 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | oh btw Stskeeps i love the smoothness, if it just had more ram :D | 18:23 |
| Morpog_PC__ | looking forward to u10 and your solutions to that problem | 18:23 |
| * Stskeeps stands on the edge of balcony | 18:24 | |
| Stskeeps | i don't think solution is what you think it is | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:24 |
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| Stskeeps | ;) | 18:24 |
| Morpog_PC__ | sounds like killing apps even faster | 18:24 |
| Morpog_PC__ | well, lets call it workaround, as we cannot get more real ram :D | 18:25 |
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| r0kk3rz | sure you can | 18:29 |
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| r0kk3rz | if you're really awesome with a soldering iron | 18:30 |
| Morpog_PC__ | hehe | 18:30 |
| Morpog_PC__ | I guess that would void my warranty :D | 18:30 |
| Aard | Morpog_PC__: well, you could hook it up via i2c, but don't count in it doing much to improve performance :p | 18:31 |
| Morpog_PC__ | lol, swapping on the sdcard would be alot faster still ;) | 18:32 |
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| rubdos | Someone has a clue when I can order those wallet cases again? :) | 19:17 |
| rubdos | (talking about the lastu thingies) | 19:19 |
| clau | fenneki, see last comment: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/issues/278 | 19:22 |
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| r0kk3rz | rubdos: pretty sure you can order them direct from lastucase | 19:31 |
| rubdos | [...] and is available exclusively at the Jolla Online Shop. | 19:31 |
| rubdos | I can get them with custom engraving though from lastu... | 19:32 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah its the same thing without the jolla logo on the back | 19:33 |
| rubdos | Well, let's ask one for Christmas :-) | 19:34 |
| rubdos | thing looks nice... | 19:34 |
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| meklu | rubdos: the one with the jolla logo is only available on jolla's store | 19:53 |
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| rubdos | I noticed :) | 19:53 |
| meklu | :) | 19:53 |
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| mornfall | pdanek: why not :) Brno is definitely over-represented | 20:44 |
| pdanek1 | mornfall: I don't live in Brno :) | 20:48 |
| pdanek1 | But I still have many friends there, so visiting OpenAlt is worth | 20:48 |
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| mornfall | pdanek: strictly speaking I don't either, but I just got off a train from there :) | 21:11 |
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