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| rangoy | Hmm.. is it just me or does the opt-in update feel a bit more sluggish? | 06:38 |
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| * tbr didn't notice any sluggishness, actually feels a bit more fluid | 06:46 | |
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| Stskeeps | if you hit really nasty low memory it might be | 06:48 |
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| tadzik | hmm, is there a way to save a phone number that sent me a text message somehow? | 07:21 |
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| special | tadzik: swipe to the contact page, pull down and save | 07:23 |
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| rangoy | eg. clicking on a new mail notification might take several seconds before anything happens | 07:27 |
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| tbr | depending on the memory load (open apps, aliendalvik,...) that wouldn't be surprising | 07:30 |
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| rangoy | tbr: even if i do close all? | 07:33 |
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| tbr | rangoy: yes, as aliendalvik might be still running | 07:34 |
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| gexc | is the discount code for EU only? | 08:02 |
| gexc | my colleague wants to buy a jolla from HK and use the code, is that possible? | 08:03 |
| tbr | try it? | 08:04 |
| AL13N_work | i thought i read this was only in countries that it shipped to | 08:04 |
| tbr | ah, if HK distribution chain is different, then it won't work | 08:04 |
| gexc | alright | 08:05 |
| gexc | lucky that he has a friend in EU :D | 08:05 |
| AL13N_work | i passed the gift voucher to 2 of my friends, but they declined | 08:05 |
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| gexc | :-/ | 08:07 |
| gexc | better than if they get the phone and hate it | 08:08 |
| Sail0r | hm maybe I can fix the owncloud issue for Jolla with rewrite magic | 08:12 |
| Sail0r | xD | 08:12 |
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| tadzik | special: thanks, that works | 08:25 |
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| AL13N_work | well, they actually would like it, but they said they didn't have the money for that yet, since they just bought a tablet | 08:32 |
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| Sail0r | interesting if the carddav service gehts a 301 | 08:42 |
| Sail0r | it just fails | 08:42 |
| Sail0r | ^^ | 08:42 |
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| TMavica | if image is too old in recovery mode to reset, how to solve? | 08:44 |
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| rangoy | What happens if I take a factory reset on the latest optin update? | 08:47 |
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| coderus | TMavica: recover manually with btrfs tools, or mount btrfs and copy files | 08:56 |
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| coderus | rangoy: you will get fresh 1.0.0.5 version :) | 08:56 |
| rangoy | coderus: ok. I was just unsure since it sait that i would be unable to roll back to update8 | 08:58 |
| rangoy | just considering to do a complete wipe, and get a fresh install :) | 08:58 |
| tbr | rangoy: that means you can't go directly back U9→U8. U9→U0→…→U8 should of course work. | 09:02 |
| tbr | which really is standard procedure on all updates | 09:02 |
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| pp_ | if you've sent your phone in for repairs you might get something newer too! | 09:05 |
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| TMavica | coderus: how recover manually with btrfs tools..? | 09:13 |
| tigeli | tbr: going from 1.0.0.5 is not supported but 1.0.0.5->1.0.2.5->.. is | 09:13 |
| rangoy | is any difference on a factory upgrade and OTA (other than as a baseline for a wipe)? | 09:13 |
| tigeli | tbr: directly going from 1.0.0.5 to u8.. ;) | 09:13 |
| tbr | tigeli: obviously, that's why the elipsis | 09:14 |
| tigeli | :) | 09:15 |
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| coderus | rangoy: its not possible directly downgrade to update8. | 09:26 |
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| rangoy | coderus: ok.. i have always belived that downgrading ment reset and apply backup | 09:28 |
| coderus | rangoy: in flashing terms - probably yes (but not always) | 09:34 |
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| coderus | rangoy: in distro terms it means - hey, $osname, install me $number version! | 09:34 |
| coderus | TMavica: what is your problem exactly? how you bricked system? | 09:35 |
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| TMavica | my fd, not me | 09:37 |
| coderus | TMavica: so? | 09:37 |
| TMavica | his jolla blank when boot after update , then i tell him go recovery mode to reset, but he tell me the image is too old | 09:38 |
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| TMavica | seem the image too old is a bugs is 1.0.8.19 ? | 09:38 |
| TMavica | coderus: tell me how solve, i will really thanks you, LOL | 09:39 |
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| coderus | TMavica: what version update from - to ? | 10:03 |
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| TMavica | coderus: later talk. i need go work, ask you later, cu | 10:31 |
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| pdanek | Ahoy! So how do you like the new Lollipop? | 10:38 |
| pdanek | Is it solid evolution? | 10:39 |
| tbr | is that the next lake name for U10? | 10:40 |
| pdanek | Android 5.0 | 10:40 |
| pdanek | :D | 10:40 |
| tbr | should ask in #android then | 10:40 |
| pdanek | Nah | 10:40 |
| pdanek | I'm interested in opinion of Sailfish guys, who happened to test it already. | 10:41 |
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| r0kk3rz | havent really paid attention tbh | 10:42 |
| r0kk3rz | considering buying a nexus 9 though, with keyboard | 10:43 |
| pdanek | I see. | 10:44 |
| r0kk3rz | but not sure if sailfish is going to work on a 64bit tegra k1 | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | why wouldn't it.. | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:44 |
| pdanek | Sooner or later, ARMv9 is a must for Sailfish | 10:44 |
| r0kk3rz | sooner or later sure | 10:44 |
| r0kk3rz | but in the next few months? | 10:44 |
| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps: im expecting a bit of work to port it, but the current HADK says arm 7 | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | NOD | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | true | 10:45 |
| tbr | well it will require either running in compat mode or a rebuild against armv8 by jolla | 10:47 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah its probably a bit out of my depth atm | 10:52 |
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| pp_ | android sorts out the low-level stuff, most of userspace is fine since ages, libhybris etc. may need some work, I'd guess? | 10:57 |
| chem|st | what is the next major mobilephone/device event? | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | MWC? | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | or is CES sooner? | 10:58 |
| chem|st | ces is in january iirc | 10:59 |
| chem|st | well on ces you announce what is coming before the summer break and on MWC what after... is there nothing before xmas? | 11:01 |
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| Stskeeps | MWC is what operators run rest of year | 11:03 |
| pp_ | there's always slush :P | 11:03 |
| Tazy | when i forcefully logout nemo and mount an SD card partion over /home i get a faulty display with welcome offset. i tried copying the files over from old to new /home | 11:06 |
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| Sail0r | carddav works now for me with owncloud ^^ https://together.jolla.com/question/60493/new-carddavcaldav-support-got-to-it-working-with-owncloud/#post-id-61071 | 11:13 |
| Nav | excellent! | 11:14 |
| r0kk3rz | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/10/27/2348204/firefox-os-coming-to-raspberry-pi | 11:24 |
| r0kk3rz | interesting | 11:24 |
| ggabriel | i cna finally use my 3rd raspi for something | 11:25 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe they're aiming to do what canonical wants to do with ubuntu | 11:25 |
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| r0kk3rz | one os to rule them all | 11:25 |
| ggabriel | i'm curious about what "easy robotics dev" exactly means | 11:26 |
| ggabriel | will the raspi turn into a transformer? | 11:26 |
| r0kk3rz | hah | 11:26 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah not sure why you would want to build another ROS | 11:27 |
| r0kk3rz | of which there are already raspi builds for | 11:27 |
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| r0kk3rz | and lego has had the 'easy' part of the market sorted with mindstorms for years | 11:28 |
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| coderus | anyone succeded to start any android bbm version on jolla? | 12:37 |
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| pdanek | coderus: I gave up trying, since none of my friends uses bbm anyway. | 13:15 |
| pdanek | but yea, it doesn't work | 13:15 |
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| ggabriel | uhm... the tohkbd2 countdown is about 7', there's no way that i'll do any work in the very short time | 13:52 |
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| tadzik | 7 minutes? | 13:53 |
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| ggabriel | under 4 now | 13:55 |
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| ggabriel | i don't know... big news apparently | 13:55 |
| Nicd- | what is 7'? | 13:55 |
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| ggabriel | ' = minutes | 13:55 |
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| Nicd- | could've been feet | 13:55 |
| ggabriel | feet? :) | 13:56 |
| ggabriel | what's that? | 13:56 |
| ggabriel | what you use for walking? :P | 13:56 |
| Nicd- | it's a silly measurement used in some 3rd world countries ;) | 13:56 |
| tadzik | heheheh | 13:56 |
| pdanek | Walking? What's that? | 13:56 |
| pdanek | I sail and swim only. | 13:56 |
| fennekki | Nicd-: afaik no third world country uses feet tho | 13:57 |
| ggabriel | pdanek: are you... a dolphin?! | 13:57 |
| joonahoi | you got feet in the boat too | 13:57 |
| tadzik | jolla will officially make tohkbd! | 13:57 |
| Nicd- | tadzik: ? | 13:57 |
| tadzik | and you can sell your soul^Wcoupon for one | 13:57 |
| pdanek | tadzik: WHATTHAT!?!?! | 13:57 |
| tadzik | Nicd-: silly guessing, nevermind :) | 13:57 |
| Nicd- | stop that | 13:57 |
| Shinryuu | lol | 13:57 |
| Nav | ha ha ha | 13:57 |
| Nicd- | fennekki: but it's not funny then | 13:58 |
| * Nav waits 2 minutes | 13:58 | |
| fennekki | Nicd-: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World | 13:58 |
| Shinryuu | it seems I came back just in time... | 13:58 |
| tadzik | mercury, venus, earth. We are the 3rd world, or did I forget something? | 13:58 |
| Nicd- | fennekki: I know that | 13:59 |
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| pdanek | I'm from the 4th world actually. | 13:59 |
| pdanek | Under the ocean. | 13:59 |
| fennekki | another world entirely | 13:59 |
| pdanek | They all use Jollas, you know? | 14:00 |
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| Nav | ok, 2 minutes is up.... | 14:00 |
| ggabriel | disappointeing | 14:00 |
| ggabriel | (spelling) | 14:00 |
| tadzik | so, where was that announcement supposed to be? | 14:01 |
| tadzik | and by whom? :) | 14:01 |
| ggabriel | maybe tmo | 14:01 |
| pdanek | TOHKBD? | 14:01 |
| Nav | exactly | 14:01 |
| oku | no tohkbd yet :( | 14:01 |
| pdanek | keep the hype alive | 14:04 |
| Shinryuu | lollipop | 14:04 |
| Armadillo | *hype* | 14:04 |
| pdanek | http://youtu.be/9-DuC0tE7V4 | 14:04 |
| pdanek | Shinryuu: Why it seems you just came back in time? | 14:05 |
| Shinryuu | just joking because of the timer | 14:07 |
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| Armadillo | https://twitter.com/dirkvanleersum/status/527099820679647233 | 14:10 |
| Nav | ahaa! | 14:10 |
| Nav | nice | 14:10 |
| tadzik | woot | 14:10 |
| tadzik | no camera hole 9.5/10 :P | 14:11 |
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| pdanek | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | 14:14 |
| pdanek | Dirk posted it | 14:14 |
| pdanek | so it's real | 14:14 |
| pdanek | I'm in! | 14:14 |
| pdanek | I had the rev1 | 14:14 |
| pdanek | but it wasn't usable | 14:14 |
| pdanek | but now! | 14:14 |
| Armadillo | ^^ | 14:14 |
| pdanek | shut up and take my money | 14:14 |
| pdanek | :) | 14:14 |
| pdanek | good keyboard is the only thing why I'm still considering buying BlackBerry | 14:15 |
| pdanek | oh god | 14:17 |
| pdanek | I won't sleep for next half a year | 14:17 |
| pdanek | don't do this to me | 14:17 |
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| ggabriel | pdanek: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YNPjS2F3Jg | 14:17 |
| pdanek | That's exact. | 14:18 |
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| pdanek | The Communicator is back! | 14:20 |
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| pdanek | There are quite some people who stick to their N900 still, due to lack of keyboard. | 14:25 |
| pdanek | You can see those on TMO. | 14:26 |
| pdanek | Patriots. | 14:26 |
| * Aard still sometimes uses it, but lack of swiping is quite annoying nowadays | 14:26 | |
| Aard | also it just has too little ram | 14:26 |
| tadzik | it did not age well | 14:26 |
| r0kk3rz | none of the early smartphones did | 14:27 |
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| pdanek | Aard: now imagine keyboard with Jolla, you could Emacs all day! | 14:27 |
| tadzik | irc! | 14:27 |
| Aard | pdanek: the n900-keyboard sucks for emacs | 14:27 |
| ballock | Aard: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nokia-N950-rare-developer-device-for-Nokia-N9-/231366401763?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item35de831ee3 | 14:27 |
| tadzik | where's that weechat relay client someone was developing | 14:27 |
| Aard | I have a nice bluetooth-keyboard with ctrl, esc and alt-keys | 14:27 |
| Aard | ballock: the keyboard of the n950 sucks | 14:28 |
| pdanek | Aard: yes, but dirk's version seems more versatile | 14:28 |
| pdanek | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1CifibCEAMg2q6.jpg:large | 14:28 |
| chem|st | Aard: but there is software in extras repo that searches worthy replacements in the apple/android/sailfish worlds for quiet some time now | 14:28 |
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| tadzik | I wonder if one could drill a hole in that arrow keys to take pictures without taking the TOH off :P | 14:29 |
| pdanek | tadzik: the keyboard will stick with magnets | 14:30 |
| pdanek | so for camera, you just take it out easily | 14:30 |
| tadzik | yeah, that's not that bad | 14:30 |
| pdanek | it's all being described on TMO | 14:30 |
| pdanek | so that's thing is pretty real | 14:30 |
| pdanek | price could be somewhere around 120 EUR | 14:30 |
| chem|st | one of the many toh design flaws... | 14:30 |
| pdanek | tohv2 design is actually getting finalized | 14:31 |
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| tadzik | frankly, I think I'd rather have a T9 keyoard for Sailfish than a keyboard TOH :) | 14:31 |
| tadzik | I learned to live without it | 14:31 |
| chem|st | Aard: sandwich the next phone with a kbd please | 14:31 |
| pdanek | tadzik: T9? | 14:32 |
| pdanek | Really? | 14:32 |
| tadzik | yep, really | 14:32 |
| pdanek | o.O | 14:32 |
| tadzik | this is the best typing method I've ever seen on a phone, aside from the physical keyboard of course | 14:32 |
| tadzik | so the best one handed typing method | 14:32 |
| pdanek | I usually type 2 handed. | 14:32 |
| r0kk3rz | T9 for when you really absolutely must party like its 1999 | 14:32 |
| pdanek | 90% of the time. | 14:32 |
| tadzik | I typed faster in 1999 than I do now on this silly qwerty keyboards | 14:33 |
| tadzik | such qwerty, so modern, damn you autocorset | 14:33 |
| pdanek | I don't like to rely on text prediction. | 14:33 |
| chem|st | tadzik: +1 | 14:33 |
| pdanek | I want to type what I want and how I want it... not a software to align it for me | 14:33 |
| pdanek | text predictions kill slangs | 14:33 |
| pdanek | and make us robots | 14:33 |
| pdanek | :D | 14:34 |
| pdanek | Make us Androids. | 14:34 |
| pdanek | I had to say it. | 14:34 |
| tadzik | if I didn't want machines to do stuff for me I'd be shouting into a plastic cup connected with a string to another plastic cup | 14:34 |
| pdanek | :D | 14:34 |
| chem|st | pdanek: my sony text prediction knows slang, you just need to teach it first... | 14:34 |
| pdanek | hm | 14:35 |
| tadzik | is the sailfish keyboard widget replacable? | 14:35 |
| r0kk3rz | pdanek: shouldnt you be corresponding with us via written letter then? | 14:35 |
| chem|st | I had like a 5% fail rate with my sony on T9 even when using shortened words, amazingly alot was pre set by them not by me | 14:36 |
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| Sail0r | does anyone know how the sync intervals are managed? | 14:36 |
| tadzik | "alot" was there? :D | 14:36 |
| tadzik | j/k | 14:36 |
| Sail0r | I don't see them in ag-tool list-settings | 14:36 |
| pdanek | my batterry is dying | 14:36 |
| chem|st | it was that good that I never remembered the failsafe button combination in the time I had the phone | 14:36 |
| pdanek | I'm gonna continue by fire signals | 14:36 |
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| pdanek | cheers | 14:37 |
| pdanek | smoke signals I meant | 14:37 |
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| chem|st | pdanek: good idea, I get a coffee on my out^^ | 14:37 |
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| Armadillo | are there any non gif pictures of the tohkbc rev2 layouts? | 15:23 |
| Armadillo | tohkbd | 15:23 |
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| pdanek1 | Armadillo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxMADzpIgAA59rv.jpg:large | 15:26 |
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| pdanek | Armadillo: how do you like the layout? | 15:41 |
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| Tazy | how do i escape the new tutorial? i reset my device. | 15:55 |
| flux | is the layout final? | 15:56 |
| wazd | Am I going crazy or it's the question for me? :D | 15:58 |
| wazd | Hi all | 15:59 |
| flux | wazd, well, it was for anyone with inner knowledge about tohkbdr2 ;) | 15:59 |
| wazd | Yes, it's final | 15:59 |
| flux | well, at least that's promising from the schedule point of view ;-) | 16:00 |
| tigeli | Tazy: you can't if you have pressed "start" | 16:01 |
| Tazy | tigeli, i survived the 5 minutes of rage. :) | 16:01 |
| tigeli | Tazy: anyway, touching each for corners before pressing start will exit the tutorial | 16:02 |
| tigeli | s/for/four/ | 16:02 |
| Tazy | tigeli, thank you tough, i'll remember that :3 | 16:10 |
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| Sail0r | nice https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2028347278/1944172417?token=02e2365d | 17:08 |
| Sail0r | really like it | 17:08 |
| Sail0r | i think I go for the 140$ | 17:09 |
| Sail0r | Euro sry | 17:09 |
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| friese | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG2RnA3J5JM now i get the whole magnet thing for tohkbd - thought the entire time why the hell it needs magnets... | 17:28 |
| ggabriel | it's quite nice acdtually | 17:29 |
| ggabriel | i may contribute | 17:29 |
| ggabriel | for the fun of it | 17:29 |
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| friese | yeah, no problems with loose hinges etc, plus i could actually leave the keyboard in my pocket if i dont need it :) | 17:29 |
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| friese | i'd really like to contribute - only problem is i don't have a credit card - i hope dirk makes them available on his shop or somewhere else also... | 17:30 |
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| r0kk3rz | friese no visa debit card? | 17:33 |
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| friese | uhm, i have a "v-pay"-logo on my normal debit card, but i think that's sth. else | 17:34 |
| r0kk3rz | nah thats probably an nfc chip or something | 17:36 |
| r0kk3rz | ive had a visa debit card for years, all the benefits of a credit card without any of the debt | 17:36 |
| friese | yeah, but (at least in germany) i haven't found one thats free yet - i very seldomly need one... | 17:37 |
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| wazd | debit cards should work just fine with KS | 17:37 |
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| Sail0r | friese: gebuhrenfrei.de | 17:40 |
| Sail0r | or the one from comdirect.de | 17:41 |
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| wazd | Since KS is "all or nothing" we won't be able to take pre-orders manually unless we will be able to reach our goal | 17:41 |
| wazd | To order all the parts | 17:42 |
| friese | humm okay, so i think the comdirect one should work, it's free & i even get 100€ :) | 17:43 |
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| r0kk3rz | wazd: even if kickstarter fails I dont think that will be the end of it | 18:05 |
| wazd | Certanly | 18:05 |
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| pdanek1 | It can't fail | 18:08 |
| pdanek1 | I will buy it 2x if it's necessary | 18:08 |
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| pdanek | Maybe Jolla can support somehow? | 18:08 |
| pdanek | Like, advertise it a bit on Slush. | 18:09 |
| pdanek | In their keynote or something. | 18:09 |
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| pdanek | It's enough if Jolla itself will order it for every of their employees. | 18:09 |
| pdanek | :D | 18:10 |
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| pdanek | As a Christmas gift. | 18:10 |
| r0kk3rz | im sure they will support however they can | 18:10 |
| pdanek | Are the magnets strong enough? | 18:11 |
| pdanek | http://youtu.be/kG2RnA3J5JM | 18:11 |
| SK_work | 55k is a lot | 18:11 |
| SK_work | even if there is 10k Jolla sold | 18:11 |
| pdanek | Btw, having a solid keyboard-half will make Jolla a decent QWERTY smartphone on the market. | 18:11 |
| SK_work | and that half everybody buys one | 18:11 |
| SK_work | it is a problem | 18:11 |
| pdanek | So it can actually give Jolla competitive advantage. | 18:12 |
| pdanek | In total numbers, QWERTY market is niche, but still large for company like Jolla. | 18:12 |
| wazd | SK_work: we need to sell about 500 keyboards | 18:13 |
| pdanek | Yes. | 18:13 |
| pdanek | Not so bad. | 18:13 |
| wazd | SK_work: if we won't be able to sell 500 of THESE I will banish myself from design :D | 18:13 |
| SK_work | 500 kbd only ? | 18:13 |
| cryorat | wazd, indiegogo or crowdsupply? | 18:13 |
| SK_work | 500 * 100 = 50 000 | 18:13 |
| SK_work | indeed | 18:13 |
| SK_work | I'm so bad | 18:14 |
| wazd | SK_work: you even made me question myself for a millisecond :D | 18:14 |
| pdanek | TOHKBDv1 was like buying pre-alpha prototype with no assurance it will be solid for expensive price | 18:14 |
| pdanek | yet quite a lot of people bought it | 18:14 |
| pdanek | on TMO | 18:14 |
| SK_work | wazd: btw, is this a final version or something ? | 18:14 |
| SK_work | I will buy 1 | 18:14 |
| SK_work | for sure | 18:14 |
| pdanek | This is supposed to be solid, end-user version | 18:15 |
| wazd | SK_work: yes it is | 18:15 |
| SK_work | I will buy one, with azerty | 18:15 |
| SK_work | if you do this | 18:15 |
| wazd | SK_work: we will | 18:15 |
| SK_work | if not, shame on you ;) | 18:15 |
| r0kk3rz | ill buy one if its injection molded :P | 18:15 |
| wazd | SK_work: I even figured out technology process for you to have it :D | 18:15 |
| SK_work | wazd: really ? | 18:15 |
| SK_work | <3 | 18:15 |
| wazd | SK_work: yes, it was quite a challenge to make layouts for all of you and stay within sane price | 18:16 |
| wazd | r0kk3rz: you mean body or keys? | 18:16 |
| SK_work | wazd: <3 | 18:16 |
| SK_work | thanks | 18:16 |
| r0kk3rz | body at least | 18:16 |
| pdanek | The only thing I don't like on it, is the wood. | 18:17 |
| r0kk3rz | 3d printed keys could be good for repairs | 18:17 |
| wazd | r0kk3rz: well, bad news for you :D Keys are injection molded and pro-grade | 18:17 |
| pdanek | Wood is not a modern material that should take a place in smartphone. | 18:17 |
| pdanek | It's just design thing. | 18:17 |
| SK_work | wazd: pro-grade ? | 18:17 |
| SK_work | how the keys feels ? | 18:17 |
| wazd | r0kk3rz: body would most certanly be 3D printed | 18:17 |
| SK_work | real keys or lame n950 style ? | 18:17 |
| wazd | SK_work: E90 style | 18:17 |
| SK_work | or super awesome E63 style ? | 18:17 |
| SK_work | don't know the E90 | 18:17 |
| SK_work | E63 is the best I have seen on a mobile | 18:17 |
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| wazd | SK_work: E63 but much larger | 18:18 |
| SK_work | wazd: <3, 3rd heart I give you tonight :) | 18:18 |
| wazd | SK_work: curvature would probably be the same, I have one :) | 18:18 |
| SK_work | much larger is a plus, especially for term | 18:18 |
| SK_work | now ... I just need a better term | 18:18 |
| wazd | r0kk3rz: about injection molding, it's expensive in quantities of about thousand | 18:19 |
| wazd | r0kk3rz: good mold costs a fortune | 18:20 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 18:20 |
| r0kk3rz | but good molds last | 18:20 |
| wazd | r0kk3rz: so for now we will stay with really good 3D printed ones | 18:20 |
| wazd | r0kk3rz: yes, I agree. And that's why they are good for large batches | 18:20 |
| r0kk3rz | well i would hope you guys continue to offer the keyboards for sale | 18:21 |
| r0kk3rz | not just a once off run | 18:21 |
| wazd | Absolutely, if there would be a demand to satisfy :) | 18:21 |
| r0kk3rz | growing demand hopefully, slowly | 18:22 |
| wazd | We have big plans to reincarnate QWERTY market | 18:22 |
| wazd | Cause right now it's really pathetic, lets be honest | 18:23 |
| pdanek | I wish I will have a chance to get it without wooden wifinish. | 18:23 |
| r0kk3rz | doesnt really matter at the moment anyway, will see how many millions you guys make | 18:23 |
| r0kk3rz | good luck | 18:23 |
| pdanek | wazd: it is, the only QWERTY supported on the market left is BlackBerry | 18:23 |
| pdanek | wazd: that custom color version, what does it mean? color of plastic? | 18:23 |
| pdanek | Like it could be completely black instead of white? | 18:24 |
| r0kk3rz | wonder how the passport is selling | 18:24 |
| pdanek | r0kk3rz: it seels very well | 18:24 |
| pdanek | sells* | 18:24 |
| pdanek | getting used to it takes time, but after few weeks, reviewers say it's amazing | 18:24 |
| r0kk3rz | well thats good news for the canucks then | 18:24 |
| wazd | pdanek: well, about wood. Actually it was the option with the best cost/looks/wearproof | 18:25 |
| locusf | theres #jollatohkbd channel as well | 18:25 |
| cryorat | wazd, will you release the blueprints for DIY projects? (I want a Colemak layout :] ) | 18:25 |
| r0kk3rz | sick of hearing about it locusf? | 18:26 |
| wazd | cryorat: yes, but I encourage you to "buy" it for E30 on the kickstarter page :P | 18:26 |
| wazd | cryorat: just for the sake of support :) | 18:26 |
| wazd | pdanek: color options = custom 3D printing plastic colors | 18:27 |
| wazd | Keypad itself stays black all the time | 18:27 |
| locusf | r0kk3rz: nah, just wanted to point out :) | 18:28 |
| wazd | About layouts: we will release all the vector files for DIY laser etching | 18:28 |
| wazd | For rare layouts | 18:28 |
| cryorat | wazd, I'll buy it. :) buttons/keycaps will be changeable? | 18:29 |
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| wazd | cryorat: nope | 18:29 |
| wazd | cryorat: you would be able to replace keypad as a whole | 18:30 |
| wazd | cryorat: but it will last | 18:30 |
| wazd | cryorat: it's just the same regular keypad as you would have on some QWERTY phone, just better :D | 18:30 |
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| cryorat | wazd, its not about replacement. I didn't even had in my mind that the keypad wont be durable. its about my colemak love :) nothing else | 18:39 |
| wazd | cryorat: we're considering "stealth" version | 18:40 |
| wazd | cryorat: to enable likes of you to tinker with every symbol :) | 18:40 |
| cryorat | is there a 'buy a dozen' option? :P | 18:41 |
| wazd | cryorat: be my guest :D | 18:41 |
| lokimotive | are you talking about the tohkbd? | 18:42 |
| wazd | lokimotive: yes | 18:42 |
| lokimotive | oh i'll so have to get one of those | 18:43 |
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| wazd | good to hear :) | 18:46 |
| lokimotive | i'm not really sure about the kickstarter thing though, they only take credit cards right? | 18:47 |
| wazd | Well, and debit cards :) | 18:47 |
| cryorat | lokimotive, all types of money :) greedy bastards :D | 18:48 |
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| lokimotive | hm i guess i could just borrow one from some random guy on the street or something | 18:50 |
| just4info_ | quick question: can sailfish run wireshark? | 18:50 |
| kimmoli | just4info_: yes | 18:52 |
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| kimmoli | i'm using the tshark cli, and if need details use desktop version to open .cap | 18:52 |
| just4info_ | kimmoli, neat, can't wait to get the phone, all the possibilitys! =) | 18:53 |
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| Sail0r | now my Jolla is nearly perfect for my needs | 19:51 |
| Sail0r | as soon as pebbled is fixed and tohkbd is out everything is nice | 19:51 |
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| louisdk | I really hope that Jolla will optimize SailfishOS for landscape mode in launcher and basic apps, to get the most out of tohkbd. | 19:53 |
| Sail0r | yep, I hope that too | 19:53 |
| Sail0r | In the launcher I don't think it is really necessary but in the apps it's essential | 19:53 |
| Sail0r | and that we can hide the softkbd | 19:53 |
| Sail0r | my good old n900 is really worn down :x | 19:55 |
| louisdk | Well. It seems like many Jolla devs are excited about tohkbd, so there might be a chance that they'll optimize some apps for landscape. | 19:55 |
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| Sail0r | that would be awesome | 19:56 |
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| louisdk | From what I know devs like cybette seem to be a qwerty fan, so there's hope :) | 19:59 |
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| lokimotive | now i'm excited xD | 20:02 |
| Sail0r | :P | 20:02 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah ok big kev (thats a reference im not sure made it out of australia) | 20:02 |
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