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Nicd-anyone else have broken backspace in android apps?07:23
Nicd-with U907:23
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Nicd-it's totally broken, like blocker-broken for me07:23
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tadzikwell, keyboard in android apps has been acting funny for me since I remember07:24
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Nicd-it worked for me before this update07:24
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TemeVseems to be working with 5 second test07:32
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ernesti07:44 < cobu> sooooo.. what was the lunch plan?08:52
ernestiups08:52
Joperelevant info08:54
ernestitotally08:57
ernesticompany secrets and stuff08:57
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inzernesti, did you plan to order lunch via ups, or ups yourselves to a lunch joint?09:00
ernestisecretz09:00
ernestididnt know ups offered such services in hki09:00
inzernesti, me neither, but your lunch plan of "ups" sounded like one of those two options09:01
ernesti:D09:02
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coderusmeecast fix, if you interested: https://github.com/Meecast/meecast/pull/1209:49
till-nice :)09:54
till-is there an updated rpm already?09:55
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Tazyis this the right spot for questions about the phone/sailfishos ?11:59
Stskeepscan always try11:59
Stskeepsthis is community channe11:59
Stskeepsl11:59
TazyI see, i noticed i loose ambiances after reboot if the source image is on the ext4 partitioned sdcard. common issue?12:01
mekluI've had that happen too12:01
Stskeepsit probably is due to the fact the system doesn't wait for the sd card to be available12:02
meklualthough I've had it happen on FAT32 and exFAT as well12:02
mekluthat seems likely12:02
mekluI guess it'd be good if the device were to copy the image $somewhere when an ambiance is made out of it12:03
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TazyOh, its a open issue.. all over together.jolla.12:04
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TazyTough i haven't seen any work on encryption in general.12:14
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KabouikHi there! Two unrelated questsions: (1) My Jolla now regularly lose network connexion (both phone and data) with no apparent reasons, in areas where there is good coverage. I have to reboot to make it work again. Is it a known issue? (2) Where does gPooder stores the downloaded podcasts?12:17
Kabouikconnection*12:17
TazyKabouik, the store has jolla utility's now, i think you can use that to restart the network stack. ;/ (unless thats in the pre release only)12:18
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KabouikI'm currently downloading the pre-release anywqy so I'll try that. However, I'm still concerned by the fact that it happens regularly since 2 weeks (several times a day), and never happened before. There's something wrong.12:19
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KabouikIt's really annoying when you expect a call or message and realize you have no network since hours12:21
coderusKabouik: it seems to be fixed in 1.1.0.3912:22
TazyHm.. to think if it i had today the issue that the icon for wifi was (!) not connected but i was in wifi anyway.12:22
KabouikOk coderus, so it was a known issue then? We'll see how it turns out to be after the update!12:23
KabouikAnd about gPodder, anyone knows what is the default folder for saved podcasts?12:23
Kabouik/home/nemo/gPodder contains no media file12:23
KabouikFound nothing in ~/Music either12:24
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Tazyi can't figure out for the life of me what cryptsetup settings to use. i end up with this: Check that kernel supports aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 cipher12:30
ggabrieluhm...12:31
ggabrieli've just used default settings12:31
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Tazyggabriel, aes-xts-plain64 is defaults for me and that errors aswell.12:32
ggabrieladmittedly, i haven't tried it in a while12:32
Tazyon the Jolla Phone?12:32
ggabrielyup12:32
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kontioKabouik: regarding gPodder, thp should know12:35
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Nicd-yay, sailtime uitukka fix in the store12:41
Nicd-thanks coderus!12:41
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KabouikI still have the same problem with network being lost with no reason and randomly after the Sailfish pre-update. Restarting the network with Sailfish Utilities does not help14:27
KabouikRebooting does, so I can't see how this could be an hardware issue14:27
ggabrielKabouik: it could be hw related14:28
ggabrieldid you try with another phone?14:28
ggabrieland does the issue happen in the same area only?14:28
KabouikNo but I have absolutely no reason to think this is related to my sim card14:28
ggabrielno, but it could be your network14:29
KabouikIt happens in several areas, I moved like 800 km last week and the problem happened several times a day14:29
ggabrielok, fair enough14:29
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KabouikI just rebooted, it works again. Very weird14:30
KabouikIt also happens whetever the coverage is (2G, 3G or 4G)14:31
ggabrieli'd speak to care if i were you14:31
ggabrieli assume you checked tjc for your country/operator?14:31
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KabouikAnd additionally, sometime I have "phone" network, but no data network, and no way to hook it (restarting mobile network using the shortcut toggle doesn't help)14:31
KabouikNo not yet, I first asked here this morning14:32
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ggabrielwow, people send me mms14:36
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ggabrielwhat year is this?14:36
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fluxI sent an mms a few months back with jolla14:41
fluxdidn't arrive..14:41
Aardflux: provider?14:43
Aardthat is, country/provider?14:43
fluxfrom Finland/Saunalahti to Finland/DNA14:44
Aardin case you opted in to u9, try again14:44
fluxoh, well I didn't :)14:44
KabouikI use mms a lot ggabriel, it's very convenient actually. Emails are most often better to send pictures, but emails are not exactly for the same purpose.14:45
KabouikAnd people won't read your email as soon as they receive it14:45
KabouikPlus a lot of people can't read emails or other "modern" texts on their phone, or have no data plan in their subscription14:45
Aardshort version: we had a bug in our mms-implementation (wrong encoding for one parameter) which was ignored (=handled as we wanted) by more or less every provider out there14:45
Aardat some point after we added mms-support elisa changed something in their infrastructure, which caused our mms to be swallowed by their infrastructure14:46
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Aardmms in general is quite a miracle that it usually does work14:47
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SK_workjust for causal discussions: did anyone tried Firefox OS, especially dev on it ?15:00
SK_workI'm thinking of getting a matchstick15:00
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Tazyam i doing this right? i'm getting unsupported cipher. cryptsetup -y --key-size=256 --cipher aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 -i 14200 luksFormat /dev/mmcblk1p115:03
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AL13N_workTazy: did you modprobe the needed cyphers?15:04
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TazyAL13N_work, no? usually they would be loaded, besides i think there supported via /proc/crypto info15:05
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coderusAard: same UCS2 error as in sms?15:32
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chem|stsomething has blown the fuse... I lost 13% battery from 30min browsing the webs and a phonecall... wtf?16:01
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chem|stI'd never reach 9-10h talktime...16:04
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r0kk3rzdicky battery stats most likely16:20
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chem|str0kk3rz: not really, at least not in the right direction, last 2 times I checked the device was underpowered at 7% at first, the second time it started to behave underpowered at 16%16:31
r0kk3rzkeep an eye on the upower -d output, will give you more to go on than a simple percentage16:32
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r0kk3rzsometimes the capacity calculation can wander a bit16:34
r0kk3rzbut things like draw and voltage should be fairly reliable16:34
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AL13N_workanyone know when booting a linux, the top 2 lines before the getty, are they customizable? i'd like to put an ipv4 in there somewhere16:35
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kontioAL13N_work: /etc/issue16:40
kontio/etc/issue.net for telnet...16:41
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AL13N_workkontio: no, before login16:46
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chem|stAL13N_work: issue.net should be before login16:53
chem|stAL13N_work: in sshd.conf you need to have "banner /path/to/banner" activated16:54
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friesehumm, tomorrow there's big news about tohkbd?17:16
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friesemaybe i'll get to place my preorder then - can't wait :)17:17
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* SK_work shut up and take my money17:20
SK_workand an azerty layout please (at least, azerty in ui)17:20
frieseand qwertz with some umlaute pls :)  also qi charging would be nice ;)17:22
r0kk3rzblank keyboard with water transfer pack included17:22
Jopeand why not17:22
SK_workwater transfer pack ?17:23
r0kk3rzthen everyone can have their own layout17:23
r0kk3rzSK_work: never did anything with model planes and such?17:23
frieseblank could also be nice - once i remember the layout :)17:23
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SK_workr0kk3rz: never, maybe I'm missing something :(17:24
SK_workI like the arrows on toholed though17:24
r0kk3rzthey usually come with a bunch of decals on some paper17:24
SK_workah17:24
SK_workok17:24
SK_workI see17:24
r0kk3rzwhich you soak in water then transfer onto the model17:24
SK_workarrows can be a nice gamepad :)17:24
SK_workr0kk3rz: I see now17:24
r0kk3rzyeah17:25
SK_workI remember building a small copter when I was young, but I sucked at modelling17:25
r0kk3rzthen you can have whatever layout you want, and they dont have to manufacture 100 different versions17:25
friesei also like the ctrl-button (really useful on console) and dedicated number row17:25
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SK_workfriese: +117:26
SK_workr0kk3rz: I don't care about what's on the keys17:27
SK_workI just want to have an a coming out when pressing q17:27
SK_worksame for m and , and z and w17:27
r0kk3rzim sure thats doable17:27
SK_worknothing too complicated :)17:27
SK_workindeed17:27
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r0kk3rzi wonder if they're going to open up the design, so you can print one yourself17:29
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SK_workr0kk3rz: don't know if it is 3D printed17:44
SK_workbut I would expect that the design is opened, except if there are any patents or some strange secret stuff17:44
r0kk3rzSK_work: im pretty sure it is, all their prototypes have been17:46
SK_workha17:46
r0kk3rznot sure if they ended up using the lasucase back17:46
SK_workgood news :)17:46
r0kk3rzthe problem would be the keyboard itself, since i think that ended up being a special order17:47
r0kk3rzhence the high price17:47
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r0kk3rzSK_work: https://i.imgur.com/1ekiAvZ.gif << looks like they're doing azerty18:39
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AL13Nooh, azerty?18:45
AL13Nwait, this OH looks fairly thick18:46
AL13Nand isn't it mounted wrong, the top end is on the left, instead of on the right?18:46
Shinryuuthat's a great thing...18:46
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r0kk3rzyeah its pretty thick18:50
r0kk3rzbut you can mount it however you want18:50
r0kk3rzleft side or right side18:50
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Toferegarding thickness, is there some comparison photo or rendering to be able to guess "how thick" it is ?18:53
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r0kk3rzthey might release some actual pics once they've got them available18:57
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dr_jollar0kk3rz: what`s new?18:59
r0kk3rzafaik they're announcing something tomorrow19:00
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Shinryuupretty much so19:18
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mtdugh, "kernel: VFS: do_fsync_timeout pid:1235(contactsd)(parent:959/booster-qt5)  fsync /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite/contacts.db-wal."19:25
mtdlovely19:25
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_cvp_mtd wrong window? :D19:33
Stskeepsno, seems like a jolla problem..19:34
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_cvp_argh..... qt programming is not funny :(19:51
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Tofe_cvp_: actually it's quite alright, compared to other environments :)20:03
pdanekHey20:03
pdanekI meant, Ahoy.20:03
TofeHei20:04
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_cvp_i mean programming self... cant learn it :( i start every 4-5 weeks but after few hours i stop with it... damn why i dont learn programming 10/15 years ago20:07
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Tofe_cvp_: you need to have a need to develop something; otherwise it's likely that the motivation won't be there20:10
Tofeand if you just don't like it, well, noone forces you :)20:10
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_cvp_but i want20:12
_cvp_:P20:12
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_cvp_Tofe, i startig already, but i dont know how to go step forward20:16
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r0kk3rzi never managed to self teach20:17
r0kk3rzwas only once doing uni and I learnt the fundamentals that I really began to get it20:18
pdanekI wish Jolla will once become an ultimate sysadmin's tool, just like N900 was. :P20:19
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cb400fwhat's missing? the keyboard? ;-)20:19
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pdanekcb400f: perhaps stylus a bit, but mainly keyboard and perma-landscape mode20:22
pdanekand bigger display never hurts (it's bigger than N900 already, but 5" would be ideal)20:22
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pdanekand USB OTG + better battery :P20:24
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Tazyhow do i restart the services that do the login of nemo?20:52
attahsystemctl20:54
attahor perhaps i was reading that to casually, sorry about that.. it does services, however not sure what is involved with login20:56
Tazymy idea was to unlock the crypt device, kill nemo, mount encrypted fs as /home, login again.20:58
fennekkikill nemo?20:58
Tazyforcefully logout so i can unmount /home20:59
attahthere are some services session-c{1,7}.scope that sounds to have something to do with it20:59
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attahalso one named home.mount hmm..21:01
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Venemohey guys21:43
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stephgohai21:44
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Venemoelectronics exam tomorrow morning21:55
stephggood luck!21:55
stephgright off to bed, seriously Venemo smash it tomorrow :)21:56
VenemoI'm still practicing21:57
Venemoat the moment, I suck21:57
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Tazyto answer my own question, it was systemctl restart start-user-session@nemo.service21:59
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VenemoTazy: nice!22:09
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Tazytough i do get off center wayland/qt issues now XD maybe its not the right way to do.22:14
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Venemowhat kind of issues?22:23
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ShinryuuI registered to maemo.org today, I've posted twice but my post count is still at "0", does this mean I have to wait for administrator etc. to approve my messages?22:57
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Venemowell, this is not a support channel for maemo.org22:58
Venemowhy not visit the #maemo channel and ask there?22:58
Shinryuuoh right, that's for the best22:59
Venemosorry22:59
Shinryuuno, I made a hasty question22:59
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