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dr_gogeta86good morning08:15
dr_gogeta86hi cybette08:15
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rigogood morning all, may I encourage jolla to send somebody to http://www.w3.org/2014/privacyws/ ?08:20
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pdanekHow to play sound file from MMS?11:42
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pdanekI can see the image, but voice record can't be opened/11:42
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pdanekAh11:59
pdanekit seems I cannot receive audio files by MMS.11:59
pdanekSo bad.11:59
pdanek:(11:59
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pdanekOnly image in MMS is supported.12:04
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chris_hi :)12:57
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intepdanek: voice messages through whatsapp/mitaakuulu work13:11
inteas a workaround13:11
ggabrielalso, you can leave a voicemail13:12
ggabrielwhich has worked for too many years13:12
integgabriel voicemail is as out at sms or email13:12
intepeople are now with whatsapp and facebook13:12
intescnr13:12
Temesooo... sms and email are out and MMS with audio is in? :D13:13
intehehe13:13
ggabrielok, save a .wav file and send an email13:13
ggabrielthat's a bit more private13:13
ggabrielor just write the bloody message13:13
ggabrielhow hard can it be13:13
ggabrielunless you have arthritis13:13
Tememaybe it is a recording of something interesting13:13
ggabrielif it's something interesting, then definitely record it in flac and send an email13:13
Teme"listen to this epic bowel movement yo"13:14
pdanekinte: ggabriel: The voice mail service is called Poczta Glosowa Lite, it's used by polish mobile operator Play --> they send me MMS with voice mail directly and I can't listen it online.13:14
intewe desperatly need PTT-support13:14
pdanekAnd I missed many voice mails already, because Jolla can't play it.13:14
inte:)13:14
Temepdanek: solution is to disable voicemail13:14
Temeunless you are some sort of business user13:14
pdanekI need voice mail.13:14
Teme..13:14
Temeok13:15
pdanekAnd you don't really need to be business user for it.13:15
pdanekVoice mail is basic everyday thing.13:15
intepdanek: well cant yoz forward them to email?13:15
pdanekImagine you're applying for jobs.13:15
pdanekYou don't know people who call you.13:15
intepdanek: you could also get a (free) voicemail account with email support13:15
pdanekThey prefer to leave a voice mail or call.13:15
inteweb.de would supply a phone number with voicemail and send you an email13:16
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intefor instance13:16
ggabrielpdanek: can't you call a number and listen there?13:16
pdanekPersonally I never leave voice mails, I use email instead. However so many people still do.13:16
inteyou only need to divert your calls to there13:16
* inte hates voicemail13:16
pdanekggabriel: I can't, the operator sends voice MMS directly13:16
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* Teme would not even know how to use voicemail13:16
ggabrielpdanek: point13:16
dr_gogeta86who still use voicemail nowadays ?13:17
Tememy dad called a number or something and heard them13:17
ggabrieljob application, it's very common13:17
inteI always leave 5 seconds of emptyness to bother the people to disable their voicemail :-)13:17
ggabrielat least in the uk13:17
Temebut it was a special number13:17
ggabrieli call a number tho, much more compatible with absolutely everything13:17
pdanekggabriel: exactly UK, in different countries people don't really use voicemail anymore so much, but in UK, every 2nd recruitor leave me voice mails13:17
pdanekand since I'm aiming for contract jobs, I apply for many, every few months13:17
pdanekso job search is part of my weekly life :)13:18
ggabrielpdanek: you in the uk? which operator functions like what you describe wtr voicemails?13:18
pdanekand voice mail helps a lot13:18
pdanekggabriel: I'm not in UK at the moment.13:18
intepdanek: so why dont you just get a different voicemail provider then?13:18
pdanekggabriel: I use polish operator called Play.13:18
ggabrielah, ok, you did mention .pl13:18
pdanekI guess I will.13:18
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pdanekBUt first I was asking you here.13:18
pdanekTo solve it on device. :)13:18
intepdanek: and you cant forward those mms to your email?13:18
pdanekinte: how?13:19
intewell, mark them, forward them13:19
inteworks for sms13:19
intedont know for mms13:19
CazouHello folks ! I'd like to know what is the bootloader on the Jolla device, how to change its configuration (after unlock),...13:19
inteI never use mms13:19
pdanekI suppose if phone doesn't support audio MMS, the audio file is simply not in my phone, else it will be easy to directly play it with some player.13:19
pdanekLooks like I can't forward.13:20
intei dont know13:20
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CazouI realize that there is no much information about it and I'd like to try some other OSes on the device :)13:24
ggabrielCazou: search talk.maemo.org, there is some information about the booting process there13:25
ggabrielfwiw, it's android's fastboot13:26
ggabrieland you can unlock the bootloader and boot from usb i think13:26
integgabriel: boot from usb would imply that the jolla is capable of some usb-host mode13:27
intei guess13:27
ggabrielok, that's not what i meant13:27
intei always thought that is not possible with the jolla phone13:27
Cazouggabriel: thanks13:28
ggabrieli managed to boot a kernel from my computer through some sort of telnet via usb13:28
ggabrielthat's the best way i can describe it13:28
ggabrielafter remembering very little13:28
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inteah like serial console via usb13:30
ggabrielkinda13:30
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dr_gogeta86is jakko roppolla here ?14:49
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* Stskeeps looks14:53
Stskeepsnop14:53
dr_gogeta86i send him g+ message14:54
dr_gogeta86i wanna convert a material design app to sailfish style language14:54
dr_gogeta86and i don't wanna use a lateral pulley like sailfish irc14:54
r0kk3rzthe lateral drawers are pretty cool though14:55
r0kk3rzyou might have to do up your own ideas for the interface though14:56
dr_gogeta86i think he doesn't agree ...14:56
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dr_gogeta86r0kk3rz, i think a common sailfish style is a good habit14:56
dr_gogeta86android till last holo14:56
dr_gogeta86every app is a mess14:56
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dr_gogeta86Stskeeps, maybe you know the answer14:57
r0kk3rztrue, but the guidelines at the moment are pretty limited14:57
dr_gogeta86how to retrive proxy settings14:57
dr_gogeta86i can't develop at office14:57
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alien_just in case you missed it, HERE oficially released an APK for the HERE maps Android application that's now in beta http://360.here.com/16:48
alien_it works quite well on the Jolla16:48
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friesehi guys, anyone tried the new jolla android launcher? can't seem to download it with all that chinese...16:55
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Nicd-http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/14/10/21/1328243/microsoft-lumia-will-replace-the-nokia-brand17:02
r0kk3rzfinal nail in the coffin17:03
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timotheyheya, ;) i am still in bootloop even after using the.img from coderus "https://together.jolla.com/question/59469/images-and-instruction-to-recover-broken-partition/" anyone an idea y :P ?19:10
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Nicd-ooh, the HERE maps look really nice on jolla19:18
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Stskeepstimothey: sadly you'll have to contact care. that method is not appropriate and you probably bricked your device badly.19:37
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timothey.great, still thanks19:41
Stskeepstimothey: be aware that you may have to pay for the repair. not saying that's going to happen, but be really careful about using random methods off the internet.19:42
Stskeepsdeveloper mode gives great power but if you break things with it, you get to keep both pieces.19:42
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timotheyi am already in touch with care, sending it bac is probaply my only chance..19:45
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r0kk3rzhere maps does look good20:16
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r0kk3rzhopefully the public transport info is at least as good as googles20:16
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r0kk3rzyeah, now all they need to do is write a sailfish app20:30
r0kk3rzbut it'll be good to get rid of google for mapping20:30
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