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| * tbr idly ponders if its nowadays safe to go abroad with a jolla, or if there are still bugs with data and roaming enabling itself | 06:08 | |
| Stskeeps | i didn't have trouble when in HK at least, but i'm one of those lousy people on devel.. | 06:08 |
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| tbr | hehe | 06:09 |
| tbr | did you get the phone bill for when you were in hkg yet? :) | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | hmmm.. good question | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:12 |
| tbr | given the moderate eu roaming prices, I might just try it out of curiosity | 06:15 |
| * tbr flips a german pre-paid into his second jolla | 06:15 | |
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| cybette | tbr: at least I had no trouble when I was in netherlands/belgium/france (release sw) | 06:29 |
| tbr | cybette: so you had data roaming disabled there? | 06:30 |
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| cybette | tbr: yes | 06:31 |
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| tbr | ok, thanks :) | 06:31 |
| * tbr ponders how much delay the train will have accrued upon arrival in helsinki | 06:31 | |
| Lipevakala_ | Hi, do i need to remove LPM mod before updating? | 06:31 |
| tbr | wasn't the "lpm mod" just a config setting? | 06:32 |
| Nicd- | yeah, probably don't need to remove it. it's just a toggle | 06:33 |
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| spiiroin | Lipevakala_: as said, it is just a setting and should not affect update in any way | 06:59 |
| Morpog_PC__ | feast day in germany and I'm already bored | 07:00 |
| Lipevakala_ | spiiroin: Ok, thanks.. | 07:01 |
| Teme | tbr: no problems with a finnish operator in bih/hr | 07:01 |
| Nicd- | wonder if we'll get a friday update | 07:01 |
| Scelt | update? | 07:02 |
| Scelt | badger | 07:02 |
| Nicd- | friday releases are the best | 07:02 |
| Scelt | yeah! | 07:02 |
| Nicd- | release at 5 pm and run home | 07:02 |
| Morpog_PC__ | :D | 07:02 |
| Scelt | all new things for weekend | 07:02 |
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| TemeV | it would be better to publish it on monday, because i don't have time to play with it this weekend :) | 07:13 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | ah nice a new here maps version leaked :D | 07:24 |
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| Nicd- | Morpog_PC__? | 07:30 |
| Morpog_PC__ | the old one expired on st october | 07:31 |
| Morpog_PC__ | 1st | 07:31 |
| Nicd- | expired? | 07:31 |
| Morpog_PC__ | closed itself after startup | 07:31 |
| TemeV | the android app? | 07:31 |
| Morpog_PC__ | yeah | 07:31 |
| Nicd- | ah | 07:32 |
| Nicd- | I thought jolla maps | 07:32 |
| Morpog_PC__ | isn't that here framework? | 07:32 |
| Nicd- | I'm just polling the update page here :D | 07:34 |
| Nicd- | related: http://xkcd.com/281/ | 07:35 |
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| meklu | why not poll with an infinite timeout? :) | 07:38 |
| Nicd- | the update page doesn't allow me to | 07:38 |
| meklu | baww | 07:39 |
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| CosmicDuck | hi, is there a way to send any files from jolla to another phone via bt? | 07:44 |
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| meklu | for media files I think you can share them via bluetooth from the gallery | 07:48 |
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| Nicd- | hm, Nokia is terminating Nokia Sync | 08:00 |
| Nicd- | dunno why I got an email for it but maybe I've used it some years ago | 08:01 |
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| pp_ | You mean Microsoft ;) | 08:02 |
| Nicd- | the company formerly known as Nokia | 08:03 |
| meklu | was that part sold off as well then? | 08:03 |
| Nicd- | it's a part of the mobile divison | 08:03 |
| Nicd- | division* | 08:03 |
| meklu | rightio | 08:03 |
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| lukedirtwalker | Is someone from care here? I have an urgent issue about a shipment? | 08:13 |
| Nicd- | lukedirtwalker: try care@jolla.com | 08:13 |
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| lukedirtwalker | Nicd-: I did. | 08:15 |
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| kimmoli | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/02/samsung-phones-bend_n_5923054.html | 08:20 |
| kimmoli | Does jolla make similar testing? | 08:20 |
| kimmoli | dat ass | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | there's a surprising amount of hw testing being done, yes, can't go into detail | 08:21 |
| * ggabriel wonders why you would put a phone in your back pocket | 08:21 | |
| ggabriel | oh, I know, so that it can be pickpocketed easier | 08:22 |
| ggabriel | :) | 08:22 |
| CosmicDuck | I have different files to transfer, not only media files | 08:22 |
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| cybette | lukedirtwalker: I see your care ticket already in the system and someone will reply soon | 08:32 |
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| lukedirtwalker | cybette: great thank you :) It would be to bad if the packet would have to travel back :P | 08:32 |
| cybette | lukedirtwalker: nod | 08:33 |
| * Morpog_PC__ imagines Jolla employes giving their phones to their kids for HQ quality checks | 08:38 | |
| Stskeeps | Morpog_PC__: so far no breakage.. | 08:39 |
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| ggabriel | Stskeeps: but your kid is too young, moisture test at best | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | and drop. | 08:40 |
| ggabriel | uhm... true | 08:41 |
| ggabriel | you don't have carpet at home i suppose | 08:41 |
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| Stskeeps | wooden floor | 08:42 |
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| lpotter | my kids play the android angry birds, but always manage to swipe it to the background and wonder where it went | 08:43 |
| SK_work | Stskeeps: I wonder if this is a drop test or a stress test for your floor | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | SK_work: my floor is looking really bad, scratched, by now.. | 08:44 |
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| clau | tbr: jolla appears to be working better abroad now | 09:11 |
| clau | non-EU SIM in EU country | 09:11 |
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| javispedro | friday again! | 09:27 |
| javispedro | how's stuff, busy? | 09:27 |
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| Larswad_ | No way you guys gonna rls on a friday. I know I wouldn't. | 11:04 |
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| Sail0r | oO | 11:08 |
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| rangoy_webchat | They've released on fridays before, so why not today? | 11:08 |
| Sail0r | dunno | 11:11 |
| Scelt | update? | 11:12 |
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| javispedro | delayed again! | 11:14 |
| Stskeeps | not delayed, just.. not there | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:15 |
| javispedro | but they were asking about the update, and, as I understand it, everytime anyone asks about the update it gets delayed for another day | 11:15 |
| PeperJohnny | :D | 11:16 |
| javispedro | so... Y U NO DELAY? | 11:16 |
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| javispedro | meh, I think I'm half-asleep today. | 11:17 |
| Scelt | updateupdateupdate | 11:18 |
| Scelt | MUSHROOM | 11:18 |
| javispedro | as promised I installed aliendalvik to use the heremaps program | 11:19 |
| javispedro | and now my batterylife in permanent-wakelock mode has taken a significant drop | 11:20 |
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| javispedro | I barely made the morning with 40% | 11:20 |
| javispedro | :/ | 11:20 |
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| javispedro | Stskeeps, do you happen to know abut PR_SET_TIMERSLACK? Do you know if Android or even SFOS use this? | 11:22 |
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| Sail0r | http://blog.younited.com/2014/10/03/the-wait-is-over-younited-for-jolla-is-here/ | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: i know about it | 11:23 |
| javispedro | but it is not used significantly I guess? | 11:23 |
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| javispedro | maybe via cgroups in an indirect way I don't know about | 11:23 |
| javispedro | cause it's really tempting to just PR_SET_TIMERSLACK to pid 0/1 during early boot and see what happens. | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | we are not using it, no | 11:24 |
| coderus | https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/517996711005130752 | 11:24 |
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| meklu | https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/517999573785382913 | 11:30 |
| Nicd- | yeees :) | 11:31 |
| grzywacz | Is it any good? First time I hear of that service. ;) | 11:35 |
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| ggabriel | uploads stuff to skynet | 11:35 |
| Nicd- | grzywacz: it's your run of the mill cloud storage service. their main marketing point is that they encrypt everything and they're based in finland | 11:36 |
| Nicd- | but it's not end-to-end encryption | 11:36 |
| Wnt | grzywacz: I dislike the web interface they use to display the shared files, it's slow as hell | 11:37 |
| Venemo_j | are they any better than the competition? | 11:37 |
| grzywacz | If it's not end-to-end, then the only (major) benefit is EU location. | 11:37 |
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| javispedro | this younited stuff has a totally generic EULA that is not even sure whether the program I'm agreeing to license is free or not. | 11:41 |
| clau | btw, is there any integration with owncloud? | 11:43 |
| clau | third-party maybe? | 11:44 |
| ggabriel | clau: i think caldav with owncloud | 11:47 |
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| Sail0r | and cargodock can down- and upload from owncloud | 11:50 |
| Wnt | it would be really nice if one could share anything (photos, videos, notes, audio files) to an ownCloud instance | 11:50 |
| Wnt | Sail0r: Oh! that's nice | 11:51 |
| meklu | last I heard ownCloud was kind of a mess | 11:51 |
| Sail0r | I like owncloud since the new version | 11:51 |
| Wnt | so it's not as integrated as it could be but already possible | 11:51 |
| Sail0r | yep | 11:52 |
| Sail0r | except for contacts | 11:52 |
| Sail0r | but it can be solved with syncevolution | 11:52 |
| Wnt | then I definatelly need to set up my own ownCloud instance | 11:52 |
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| dunp | http://thesecurityfactory.be/command-injection-windows.html lol :D | 11:54 |
| Wnt | dunp: that only affects batch scripts fail to sanitize input | 11:56 |
| Wnt | it's nowhere near as bad as the bash vulnerability | 11:56 |
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| ggabriel | dunp: doesn't work in xp :P | 12:01 |
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| ArtVandalae | Hi all. Does anyone here know of anyone that sells+ships the Jolla to Australia? | 12:08 |
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| Nightmare__ | arturo182: amazon.co.uk? | 12:13 |
| Nightmare__ | ArtVandalae: amazon.co.uk? | 12:13 |
| Nightmare__ | sry | 12:13 |
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| Shinryuu | &qu | 12:34 |
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| kimmoli | kjokinie: or someone. i have now seen few phones which does not get TOHID. https://app.younited.com/?shareObject=957db8ae-5a1e-b9fe-c4c4-44f7418682d3 | 12:39 |
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| Teme | ahh this younitedgate | 13:11 |
| Teme | so much disappointment :( | 13:11 |
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| clau | please don't do that. don't create new *gate words. | 13:12 |
| Scelt | star gate? | 13:12 |
| Scelt | macgyver! | 13:12 |
| Teme | well the cat's out the bag now :D | 13:12 |
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| clau | star gate... it's old, and at least there's a gate involved there. | 13:13 |
| Teme | anyhow i'm gonna have to question the reasoning behind launching the app like that | 13:14 |
| Teme | if there's Sailfish integrations coming, why not wait until then? | 13:14 |
| clau | it seems there will "soon" be a native app too. | 13:14 |
| clau | yeah, no idea | 13:15 |
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| ggabriel | soon we'll have an espresso machine other half too | 13:15 |
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| javispedro | sailgate | 13:18 |
| javispedro | though I prefer the gatefish | 13:19 |
| clau | that's not a *gate word, it's a gate* word. | 13:19 |
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| meklu | watergategate | 13:22 |
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| clau | has anyone else noticed that vkb in android apps stops capitalizing words after "." when you type long messages? | 13:34 |
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| Teme | hmm, it also does that if you enter the first letter and erase it | 13:38 |
| clau | Also, it doesn't erase the space in android apps, as it does in native apps. | 13:38 |
| Teme | but not in all fields | 13:38 |
| clau | it's kind of annoying | 13:38 |
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| Nicd- | my keyboard in younited went to allcaps | 13:47 |
| Nicd- | when inputting my email | 13:47 |
| Nightmare__ | Nicd-: mine too, after @ | 13:48 |
| Nicd- | it went back to caps whenever I input a letter so I had to always click shift before typing a new character | 13:48 |
| AL13N_work | what is this younited program that people are talkinga about anyway? | 13:48 |
| Nicd- | AL13N_work: check the store | 13:48 |
| Nicd- | it's a client for the f-secure younited cloud storage service | 13:48 |
| AL13N_work | meh | 13:49 |
| AL13N_work | could storage... and secure | 13:49 |
| * AL13N_work sighs | 13:49 | |
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| clau | oh... that one too. BBM had this issue until it stopped working altogether. | 13:50 |
| clau | typing the username was a PITA | 13:51 |
| clau | it went in all uppercase, and I had to turn it lowercase after each letter | 13:51 |
| clau | what I don't get is this: if they want to provide secure storage, why aren't they doing encryption client side? | 13:52 |
| Teme | AL13N_work: why sigh? | 13:53 |
| Teme | it would be amazing as a native app | 13:53 |
| clau | because it's a contradiction in terms | 13:53 |
| Teme | ahaa :) | 13:53 |
| faenil | is there anyone who's betatesting the new fw? | 13:53 |
| faenil | I'd like to know if BBM works | 13:53 |
| faenil | (the chat used to work until update6) | 13:54 |
| Nicd- | clau: because they couldn't show you thumbnails in the web UI or preview content and that's what normal people want | 13:54 |
| Teme | i for one don't care about secure, i just want _any_ cloud storage service to work | 13:55 |
| clau | yeah, seems like a fair trade: give up privacy for thumbnails :) | 13:55 |
| Nicd- | clau: regular people don't care about that | 13:55 |
| Nicd- | in any case end-to-end is worthless without the client being fully open source and face it, that's not going to happen | 13:57 |
| clau | talking about privacy, is there some way to make new galleries in the Gallery app? It's very annoying to want to show someone some picture you took, and then you have there some family pictures too, which you might not want to show. | 13:57 |
| clau | Nicd-: obviously | 13:57 |
| Teme | "family pictures" ;) | 13:58 |
| ggabriel | clau: yeah, happens all the time to me. i don't show pictures to girls any more from my "family" | 13:58 |
| AL13N_work | lol | 13:59 |
| clau | ok, next time I'll generalize more :) | 14:00 |
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| clau | there are too many people around here who were built with -pedantic flag | 14:01 |
| ggabriel | clau: nah, it was just funny | 14:02 |
| ggabriel | it's friday :) | 14:02 |
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| ggabriel | but you're right regardless, would be nice to have folders | 14:02 |
| ggabriel | or something | 14:02 |
| Teme | yeah, on a more serious note that would be a great feature | 14:03 |
| ggabriel | i bet there's a tjc for that | 14:03 |
| Teme | wonder how other platforms handle that? | 14:03 |
| clau | I recall Mitakuuluu used to create it's own gallery | 14:05 |
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| clau | so there's probably a way of doing it manually, but you would still need to move pictures around manually | 14:09 |
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| coderus | gallery is easy | 14:23 |
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| oozbooz | anyone tried to run J on moto X or G? | 14:34 |
| raa700 | it's sailfish, or sfos, not J | 14:35 |
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| oozbooz | oh, so what OS Jolla is running? | 14:53 |
| sharpneli | Sailfish OS | 14:54 |
| Yaniel | SailfishOS | 14:54 |
| SpeedEvil | Porting can be an extensive compex process. | 14:55 |
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| oozbooz | I read that SFOS had been ported to couple droid platforms | 14:57 |
| Sidde | it has yes | 14:57 |
| sharpneli | Technically the Jolla phone is an android platform. | 14:58 |
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| Sidde | oozbooz: sailfish runs on a lot of phones, the nexus phones in particular | 15:00 |
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| wecsi | hello | 15:01 |
| wecsi | i recently had problems with the proximity sensor and such and now my jollas screen has stayed on when in my pocket and locked | 15:01 |
| wecsi | then the damn thing has been permanently locked | 15:02 |
| ggabriel | wecsi: :( care i'm afraid... | 15:02 |
| wecsi | and i tried the recovery mode my pressing volume down and then connecting it to my linux server and then giving it an IP and then tried to telnet into it but it said the connection was refused | 15:02 |
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| wecsi | ok so its a brick and nothing can be done? | 15:04 |
| ggabriel | talk to care@j.c | 15:04 |
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| faenil | wecsi: cannot even telnet in? that sounds quite strange | 15:16 |
| faenil | are you sure the phone is in recovery mode when you're trying to connect? are you using 10.42.66.66? | 15:16 |
| Nicd- | looks like no friday release after all :( | 15:16 |
| wecsi | i will have to try it again faenil | 15:17 |
| faenil | Nicd-: remember what Stskeeps always says.... "releasing on Friday is a suicide" | 15:17 |
| inte | recovery mode can be tricky especially if your not too much into unix terminal and networking | 15:17 |
| wecsi | it only showed as eth1 when i did a ifconfig -a | 15:17 |
| wecsi | then i put an address with ifconfig eth1 192.168.2.8 netmask 255.255.255.0 up | 15:18 |
| inte | i guess it would be usefull to have a sailfish app for this thing: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pavlok-the-habit-changing-device-that-shocks-you | 15:18 |
| wecsi | then i tried to telnet to 192.168.2.8 but it refused it | 15:18 |
| javispedro | wtf | 15:18 |
| Nicd- | faenil: but they have released multiple times on a friday :P | 15:18 |
| wecsi | did i do something wrong somewhere or what | 15:18 |
| faenil | Nicd-: have they? | 15:19 |
| javispedro | wecsi, yes | 15:19 |
| javispedro | wecsi, what distro do you have? | 15:19 |
| wecsi | uhh centos | 15:19 |
| faenil | wecsi: why do you setup an interface? it should be available automatically | 15:19 |
| wecsi | it didnt show an ip | 15:19 |
| javispedro | it may not be if he's not running network manager | 15:19 |
| faenil | yeah ofc | 15:19 |
| faenil | well, *any* netwrk manager | 15:20 |
| javispedro | I don't know about wicd. | 15:20 |
| faenil | mmm | 15:20 |
| javispedro | which is the other "big" network manager desktop people use | 15:20 |
| javispedro | wecsi, does wicd or network manager ring any bell? do you have wifi? | 15:20 |
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| wecsi | no wifi perhaps network manager is running its a headless home server | 15:21 |
| javispedro | so quite probably not | 15:21 |
| javispedro | wait a second.. | 15:21 |
| javispedro | sholla should show up as usb0, not eth* | 15:21 |
| javispedro | oops. | 15:22 |
| javispedro | s/sholla/jolla/ :) | 15:22 |
| javispedro | interesting typo :) | 15:22 |
| ggabriel | hehe | 15:22 |
| wecsi | yeah but only had the eth0 and loopback interfaces up when i did ifconfig -a | 15:22 |
| javispedro | check if dmesg says anything interesting | 15:22 |
| javispedro | e.g. new high-speed USB device .. | 15:23 |
| ggabriel | i _think_ that for recovery mode it does eth*, not usb* | 15:23 |
| Nicd- | faenil: IIRC yes | 15:23 |
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| ggabriel | usb* only in pc connection when sailfish is full on | 15:23 |
| wecsi | then i did the volume down and power and waited for the logo and then put in the usb and then the eth1 popped up | 15:23 |
| faenil | wasn't it volUp + power? | 15:24 |
| faenil | or am I misremembering? | 15:24 |
| ggabriel | faenil: one of those combinations do nothing anyway | 15:24 |
| ggabriel | i.e., sailfish boots normally | 15:24 |
| wecsi | ill give the volume up a go | 15:24 |
| faenil | I think both do something | 15:24 |
| javispedro | I think it's down | 15:25 |
| ggabriel | me too | 15:25 |
| ggabriel | and i tried the other one | 15:25 |
| ggabriel | and sailfish booted normally | 15:25 |
| javispedro | DocS once mentioned that the other one was about factory testing iirc | 15:25 |
| wecsi | there was a huge vibration with vol up and power | 15:25 |
| faenil | ok, then I could be misremembering...god, if I think I'm the guy who wrote that recovery XD | 15:25 |
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| faenil | wecsi: ok then I think that's factory mode | 15:26 |
| faenil | nothing a customer can use | 15:26 |
| wecsi | okay | 15:26 |
| wecsi | so its volume down | 15:27 |
| javispedro | as said, /me is half-asleep today | 15:27 |
| javispedro | vol up is fastboot!! | 15:27 |
| * javispedro sighs | 15:27 | |
| ggabriel | ah, but you have to have it unlocked for fastboot | 15:28 |
| ggabriel | that explains why mine just booted normally | 15:28 |
| faenil | javispedro: are you sure? one of them was factory mode, and I remember it had a long vibra | 15:28 |
| javispedro | you also need to have usb plugged in | 15:28 |
| faenil | but then, my memory is so bad :D | 15:28 |
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| faenil | yes, if you have usb plugged in the it's fastbook | 15:28 |
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| faenil | fastbook, lol | 15:28 |
| wecsi | before doing the vol down + power? plug usb in before it? or after it? or does it matter? | 15:29 |
| javispedro | no, it's an unrelated thing | 15:29 |
| javispedro | let's try the debian way | 15:29 |
| javispedro | just launch "ifup eth1" on a terminal | 15:29 |
| javispedro | I don't remember enough of redhat but I guess it may work.. | 15:29 |
| javispedro | if anyone does feel free to jump in. | 15:29 |
| wecsi | configuration for eth1 not found | 15:30 |
| wecsi | so do i set the ip for it with ifconfig? | 15:30 |
| javispedro | nah, all you need to do is run a dhcp client and get the interface up | 15:31 |
| faenil | ^ easiest XD | 15:31 |
| javispedro | maybe not when it's a distro I know nothing about and without networkmanager | 15:32 |
| wecsi | k ran dhclient and it gave eth1 the ip 10.42.66.67 | 15:32 |
| javispedro | :) | 15:32 |
| javispedro | now try to telnet i | 15:32 |
| faenil | I meant easiest for the whole thing to work once you have a dhcp client | 15:32 |
| javispedro | *telnet in | 15:32 |
| faenil | wohoo :) | 15:32 |
| wecsi | Trying 10.42.66.67... telnet: connect to address 10.42.66.67: Connection refused | 15:32 |
| faenil | no | 15:33 |
| faenil | *you* are 67 | 15:33 |
| faenil | phone is 66 | 15:33 |
| wecsi | WELL THAT WAS IT | 15:33 |
| wecsi | its been a long week | 15:33 |
| faenil | haha :) | 15:33 |
| faenil | are you in? | 15:33 |
| wecsi | i thought it was something silly | 15:33 |
| wecsi | yeah man | 15:33 |
| faenil | woohoo | 15:33 |
| ggabriel | wecsi: you won't be able to reset the counter from there | 15:33 |
| ggabriel | i suggest back everything up | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | copy to sd card | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | at least you have the data | 15:34 |
| javispedro | hm, which counter? | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | i didn't try to factory reset though | 15:34 |
| wecsi | oh man i need to reset it all? | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | javispedro: wecsi locked down their phone | 15:34 |
| javispedro | oh. | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | wecsi: like i said, i didn't try, so no guarantees | 15:34 |
| wecsi | alright i need to find a sd card | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | there's a tjc that suggests that factory reset works | 15:35 |
| javispedro | where is the counter stored, is that known? | 15:35 |
| ggabriel | and you'll see my comment there too | 15:35 |
| ggabriel | javispedro: nope :) | 15:35 |
| ggabriel | i'm sure jolla care knows though | 15:35 |
| ggabriel | there are 2 counters too | 15:35 |
| javispedro | (and many of the sailors around...) | 15:35 |
| ggabriel | one for the pretty ui and another one for recovery mode | 15:35 |
| * javispedro coughs loudly | 15:35 | |
| wecsi | alright i need to find a microsd card | 15:35 |
| SK_work | counter ? | 15:36 |
| Morpog_PC___ | you could try to contact Jonni first | 15:36 |
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| wecsi | oh wait | 15:37 |
| Morpog_PC___ | heard he helped before with locked Jollas | 15:37 |
| wecsi | so just like that it works i put in the lock code? and its open? | 15:37 |
| ggabriel | wecsi: yes | 15:37 |
| ggabriel | but only on recovery mode | 15:37 |
| ggabriel | if you boot, you'll still be locked down | 15:37 |
| wecsi | oh | 15:37 |
| wecsi | okay so reset to factory state | 15:38 |
| faenil | javispedro: haha :D | 15:38 |
| ggabriel | wecsi: if you go down that route, let us know the outcome | 15:38 |
| ggabriel | at least i'm interested | 15:38 |
| wecsi | okay so it might or might not work? | 15:38 |
| ggabriel | i had a plan C then which was restore all partitions to the very first version of sailfish | 15:38 |
| ggabriel | wecsi: aye | 15:38 |
| ggabriel | no guarantees | 15:39 |
| ggabriel | but trying is easier than sending it to .fi | 15:39 |
| wecsi | hm | 15:39 |
| wecsi | oh well i doubt ive got anything important i havent sent elsewhere | 15:39 |
| wecsi | here goes nothing | 15:39 |
| wecsi | okay the intro came up | 15:41 |
| ggabriel | wecsi: first thing to try if you think you're successful: activate device lock and see if it continues being locked down :) | 15:42 |
| wecsi | alright it let me choose a new lock code and stuff lets try to reboot | 15:47 |
| ggabriel | wecsi: \o/ | 15:47 |
| ggabriel | so, there is a way out of locked down mode | 15:47 |
| ggabriel | so long as you remember the code | 15:47 |
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| wecsi | yeah | 15:47 |
| wecsi | pretty nice | 15:48 |
| wecsi | aww damn all my telephone numbers | 15:48 |
| wecsi | oh well it works which is pretty nice | 15:48 |
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| faenil | wecsi: ah so you had to reset? | 15:53 |
| wecsi | yeah should have taken the numbers up but i felt like a star and now i fell down and lost it all | 15:53 |
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| faenil | wecsi: awww | 15:55 |
| ggabriel | well, i did suggest to make a backup | 15:55 |
| wecsi | yeah man its no problem a fresh start is pretty nice | 15:55 |
| ggabriel | like a phoenix | 15:56 |
| wecsi | yeah man my thoughts exactly | 15:56 |
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| Nicd- | wecsi: but in the eeend it doesn't even matteerrrr~ | 16:02 |
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| faenil | haha :) | 16:08 |
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| rigo | Stskeeps: look at http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/newsroom/cf/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=7203&lang=en&tpa_id=0&displayType=fo&fosubtype=p&nl_id=1039 I think it would be interesting for jolla to put in a proposal. Would be willing to help organize | 16:40 |
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| Stskeeps | hey, rigo | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | hmmm .... | 16:42 |
| SK_work | interesting | 16:44 |
| rigo | yep | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | rigo: i'll hint it to our BD guys, can you msg me a mail i can cc you on? | 16:45 |
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| krnlyng | is there an easy/recommended way to backup and reflash (fastboot?) a jolla phone (rootfs and so on)? i want to mess with some libraries :) | 17:46 |
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| Sail0r | btrfs snapshot | 17:46 |
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| coderus | or just cd / && git init :) | 18:07 |
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| krnlyng | coderus, Sail0r: and if i manage to brick it to an unbootable state? | 18:12 |
| Sail0r | contact care | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | make sure you don't screw recovery mode | 18:12 |
| coderus | krnlyng: just with libs and so you can still use recovery shell and git revert or restore snapshot :) | 18:13 |
| krnlyng | what is recovery mode? how do i get there? | 18:14 |
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| krnlyng | fastboot? | 18:15 |
| faenil | krnlyng: vol down + power | 18:16 |
| faenil | then plug usb in | 18:16 |
| coderus | https://thejollablog.wordpress.com/tag/recovery/ | 18:16 |
| faenil | and telnet 10.42.66.66 from pc | 18:16 |
| faenil | (provided you have a dhcp client on your pc | 18:16 |
| faenil | ) | 18:16 |
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| krnlyng | faenil: if i hold power + vol down and connect usb it just boots up normally, if i just hold vol down and connect usb it enters fastboot, is this the correct mode? i suppose not :( | 18:20 |
| faenil | vol down + power, try again | 18:20 |
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| faenil | without usb | 18:20 |
| faenil | first hold vol down, then press power | 18:21 |
| krnlyng | ah worked now :) thanks | 18:21 |
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| krnlyng | is there a reason the adreno libs are called *adreno200.so? i thought the jolla phone has a 3xx series adreno gpu? | 18:41 |
| faenil | hehe...don't know, maybe same driver? | 18:45 |
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| faenil | just higher freq maybe? | 18:45 |
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| coderus | btw, welcome to Sailfish land, liar :D | 19:04 |
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| krnlyng | coderus: :) i've actually had a jolla for quite some time now^^but now is the time where i start to do stupid things with it :) | 19:24 |
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| faenil | good to hear :D | 19:28 |
| faenil | deztructor: ping | 19:29 |
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| faenil | phew. finally, this is done as well | 19:39 |
| faenil | https://github.com/nemomobile/timed/pull/55 | 19:39 |
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| faenil | maybe spiiroin ^ | 19:40 |
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| deztructor | faenil: almost here while going to sleep now :) | 20:05 |
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| faenil | deztructor: got 2 tiny mins to fix this? https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log/mer-core:i486:devel/statefs-providers/Core_i486/i586 | 20:06 |
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| deztructor | faenil: what about tomorrow? ;) | 20:08 |
| faenil | deztructor: sure ;) | 20:08 |
| faenil | thanks :) | 20:08 |
| deztructor | ok, gnight :) | 20:08 |
| faenil | o/ | 20:08 |
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| pdanek | Why is here so much hate for Android? :) | 20:13 |
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| tadzik | is there? | 20:17 |
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| coderus | i like android stuff and have no idea why i shouldn't use it | 20:20 |
| clau | anyone knows where the wifi password is stored on jolla? | 20:24 |
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| coderus | clau: /var/lib/connman | 20:30 |
| clau | thanks | 20:30 |
| coderus | wifi_internalmac_routermac_type/settings | 20:30 |
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| clau | yep, it's there. | 20:33 |
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| Shinryuu | :o | 20:34 |
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| krnlyng | where are calendar entries stored? and emails? | 22:05 |
| pdanek | And SMS too? Is there some sqlite database with SMS? | 22:06 |
| pdanek | Like Android has? | 22:06 |
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| krnlyng | pdanek: sms are stored in some sqlite database somewhere in ~/.local | 22:16 |
| pdanek | Ok | 22:17 |
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| pdanek | Do you expect Jolla to finally be N900 successor? | 23:47 |
| pdanek | Better camera and perfect landscape support for keyboard-half V3? | 23:48 |
| pdanek | Jolla 2* | 23:48 |
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