#jollamobile log for Tuesday, 2014-09-23

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keithzgGrrrr, still fighting with Tracker to actually index my music on my SD card . . .03:18
keithzgI mean, it sees it just fine, but decides everything is just Unknown Artist, Unknown Album, and defaults to titling the songs after their filenames.03:19
keithzgA hard reset seems to work, sometimes (a soft-reset doesn't), but only until the next reboot.03:20
keithzgAh well, maybe I'll try again on my tomorrow. And it's not like it's that hard to write tracker-control --hard-reset, heh.03:21
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stephgningles07:27
Nicd-congrats Jolla for india release!07:28
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SK_work\o/ well played Jolla in India <308:50
Jope<308:50
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Nicd-http://blog.rburchell.com/2014/09/wayland-and-qt-54.html09:39
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Sailor2969_sigh.09:40
Sailor2969_every time i try to play auralux, jolla crashes/reboots aftrr a few minutes...09:41
Sailor2969_do other Android games have issues as well?09:42
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Sailor2969_i wonder if this irc client keeps conn even while device is blank/idle09:49
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cybettecommunity meeting in #mer-meeting on freenode now10:01
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kimmolikjokinie1: something is building... maybe12:19
pp_Sailor2969_: have a battery support / cleaned contacts yet?12:21
kjokinie1kimmoli: I can build one right now for you to  test.. the wiki seems to need bit preps, as the initrd stuff is changing soon, and the old  stuff in hw-ramdisk is not available anymore12:21
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Nicd-hmm, my messages app lost its active cover13:16
Nicd-it doesn't display messages, it just says "Messages"13:16
clausame happened to me, but with the email client13:18
clauno idea what caused it, though13:18
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Sail0rJolla in india is about 210Euros13:49
chem|stSail0r: still too expensive13:50
AL13Nhmm, is it? 210 is like 60% of our price13:52
chem|stJolla2 needs to be like 300eur but with flagship hardware to make a difference, just like oneplus did13:52
chem|stfrom their job offerings you may read that they will start to target EU+India+Russia directly in the future13:56
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bjornThe oneplus requires in invite to buy? How do they manage this price level? What about needing to make volumes?13:58
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bjornan invite*13:58
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inteisnt there a jolla promotion at snapdeal shortly?14:04
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Sail0rI would like that they target the os first and not new markets ...14:10
Nicd-they need new markets to have money to improve the OS14:10
Sail0rI know but If the new markets are getting annoyed by the os14:10
Sail0rthere is no mone14:10
Sail0ry14:10
chem|stbjorn: volume, they had a waitinglist of at least 3 batches before they even shipped a single one, price: it is highvolume hardware nothing extraordinary, you probably get a very good price for it when ordering batches of 10k-20k which is less than 1M€14:10
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chem|stSail0r: they had to move, or be broke14:12
Sail0ryeah, true.14:12
Sail0rand the new update is coming and everything gets better :)14:12
chem|stprice calculations for 30k devices come up with <50€ per device if you use no extraordinary hardware14:13
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clauI doubt Jolla is making enough money from sales to support development14:16
Sail0rwhy?14:17
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claurunning a company is not cheap: you have to pay salaries, taxes, other expenses14:17
clauhow many phones do you think Jolla sold so far?14:17
Nicd-maybe 30k if that14:18
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clauany idea how much does a company spend with an employee per month in Finland?14:20
dTAafaik about salaryx214:21
bjorn40-50k probably.14:21
bjornOk maybe 80k then. :P14:22
dTAit is not exactly that but close with all the mandatory payments, i forget what all they are14:22
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Sail0rsnapdeal says Orders Processed: More than 500014:29
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Stskeeps5k purchases in india? :P14:32
Nicd-Sail0r: where?14:32
Sail0rhttp://www.snapdeal.com/product/jolla-sailfish-mobile/1569469991#bcrumbSearch:jolla%20phone right side beneath the prive14:32
Sail0r*price14:32
Nicd-http://n2.sdlcdn.com/imgs/a/n/m/VIPbox-4cbb2.jpg DO WANT14:33
kimmolithat is just the E-Deal whatever14:44
kimmoli5k, not jolla. it was there 1min after that page opened14:44
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Nicd-yeah, it's from here: http://www.snapdeal.com/seller/e-buy/be37cf14:51
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Sail0rah ok15:14
Sail0rI thought it's for the displayed article15:14
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javispedrofaenil, did you get to know anything more about the jolla .it event?15:41
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Sail0rhm https://together.jolla.com/question/56009/backup-of-devmmcblk0p28/15:44
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cybettehttps://www.facebook.com/jollaofficial - 100,091 likes <316:04
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Sail0rthe comments towards the india launch are not that happy oO16:08
Morpog_PC100.191 :D16:08
faeniljavispedro: like?16:09
javispedrofaenil, dunno, why you weren't invited :)16:09
javispedroor whether it's public16:09
faeniljavispedro: I asked sailors :) it's a press event, not a community event, was the reply16:09
faeniladding that it wasn't organized by jolla itself16:10
faenilbut, well, we'll know more tomorrow :)16:10
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faenilcybette: awww <316:14
cybettefaenil: yes, it's more business side, not dev/community related. and not public. organized by our partner.16:14
cybettefaenil: if community members can be involved, do you think i'll forget you? ;)16:14
faenilcybette: I don't know :( :P16:15
faenilbb10 involved devs in the italian launch16:16
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cybetteit's not really a launch..16:16
faenilbut yeah, this looks like something particular, so not worth talking about it :)16:16
faenil<316:16
cybette<316:17
Andy80I had problems again with mitakuuluu today.... I had disabled the keepalive setting, to save battery... but I found the process to be stuck at 180% CPU....16:19
Morpog_PChmm, maybe a point for next community meeting16:20
Morpog_PCas it seems jolla devs don't look at together16:20
r0kk3rzAndy80: 180% cpu, thats fairly extreme16:21
Andy80r0kk3rz, yes :/16:22
Andy80if you have any suggestion... I'm happy to test16:22
r0kk3rzknown bug though, and nobody has any idea why it happens16:23
Morpog_PCit could be caused by conman16:23
r0kk3rzthats my running theory16:23
r0kk3rzbut who knows16:23
Morpog_PCwhich should be mire stable with update 916:23
Morpog_PCmore16:23
Andy80if I was in Jolla shoes, being "whatsapp" a very requested app, I would dedicate one of my engineer to help coderus to fix the problem...16:24
Morpog_PCme too16:24
r0kk3rztheres a thread on TJC about it thanks to Morpog_PC16:24
r0kk3rzso go and vote it up16:24
Morpog_PCthough, no Jolla dev answered or commented there16:25
Andy80oh cool. if you can pass me the link I surely vote up for it :)16:25
Morpog_PChttps://together.jolla.com/question/51549/could-jolla-help-fixing-a-bug-in-1-sailfishos-app/16:25
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r0kk3rzyeah well, its not really jollas problem to fix a bug in a thirdparty app thats on a thirdparty app store16:25
Morpog_PCsure, but they could assist16:26
Andy80found https://together.jolla.com/question/51549/could-jolla-help-fixing-a-bug-in-1-sailfishos-app/16:26
Sail0rwhen the process runs at 180% and higher what does strace say what it is doing?16:26
Temeyeah, throw a skilled engineer at it and get many happier users... a pretty good bargain16:26
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faenilyeah I was about to ask if anybody had tried gdb attach'ing to it16:26
Andy80it's not coderus fault if the app is on a 3rd party app store....16:26
Sail0ryeah gdb or strace did someone look at it already?16:27
r0kk3rzthanks to basils sysmon i can see that it also spawns heaps of threads at the same time16:27
Morpog_PChe said he coulod put it on Jolla store but would need to strip out almost every feature of it :D16:27
Morpog_PCeven the background daemon16:27
Sail0rnobody answers the question ^^16:27
r0kk3rzSail0r: faenil: it happens so infrequently that its hard to catch in the act16:27
Sail0rbut it runs for a while at high cpu usage16:27
Sail0r18:19:26 Andy80: I had problems again with mitakuuluu today.... I had disabled the keepalive setting, to save battery... but I found the process to be stuck at 180% CPU....16:28
r0kk3rzit happens when im out and about, so i dont have access to anything to debug properly16:28
Sail0rthats when you have to attach16:28
Andy80Morpog_PC, isn't for legal reasons?16:28
faenilr0kk3rz: well Andy80 had it twice in 2 days16:28
Morpog_PCit runs at high cpu load untill you force quit it16:28
faenilr0kk3rz: makes sense16:28
Morpog_PCAndy80, no because of harbour limitations16:28
Andy80Morpog_PC, seriously O__o ?16:28
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r0kk3rzfaenil: yeah it can happen once a day, until you start paying heaps of attention to it, then it might not happen for 2-3 days16:29
Morpog_PCalot of apps on openrepos are there because of harbour limitations16:29
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Sail0rI think as long as no proper gdb or strace output is there nobody knows what's causing the problem16:29
faenilr0kk3rz: hehe I know what you mean :D16:29
Morpog_PCfor me the bug happens once a week16:29
r0kk3rzyeah like mine, even though it doesnt do anything that the Jolla player doesnt do16:29
r0kk3rzMorpog_PC: I think it happens in periods of zero signal16:30
Andy80I've nearly full signal in the office16:31
r0kk3rzso if you generally have good coverage then its fine, here in the UK coverage is terrible in buildings16:31
Sail0rWell, I would help but I do not use whatsapp :x16:31
w00tsomeone strace it when it breaks, get me a log, and I'll see if that tells me anything16:31
Andy80r0kk3rz, full 4G coverage (ThreeUK - London / Oxford st)16:31
r0kk3rzw00t: can this be done from terminal on the Jolla?16:31
Sail0rwell times of weak signal is always a problem with jolla16:31
Sail0rstrace -p "pid of programm" -f16:32
w00tr0kk3rz: strace -f -p $(pidof processnamegoeshere)16:32
r0kk3rzcool, if i catch it in the act again i'll do just that16:32
Morpog_PCit runs two processes16:32
Morpog_PCGUI and daemon16:32
r0kk3rzi'll write myself a little script so its easy16:33
Morpog_PClet's see if I can reproduce the bug artificially16:33
faenilI really wonder why no mikatulu user has done that so far :)16:33
r0kk3rzMorpog_PC: ive tried a few theories to repoduce it16:33
r0kk3rznever managed to16:34
Sail0rI wonder why it does not affect every programm which runs in background16:34
faenilare you guys sure coderus doesn't already know in which function it gets stuck?16:34
Morpog_PCfaenil, because I'm still a bloddy linux noob :D16:34
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Morpog_PCfaenil, coderus told he never had the bug16:34
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Morpog_PCand he got hundreds of logs from users16:34
faenilMorpog_PC: that's not a problem, but usually people ask, somebody says "hey, you could try this"...this bug has been going on for so long :D16:34
r0kk3rzonly mitakuuluu logs, not system logs or stack traces16:35
faenilMorpog_PC: ah I see...so that's why16:35
Morpog_PCwell, faenil as you can see I even started a thread on together and nobody suggested doing a strace16:35
Sail0rwell, I never read that thread :x16:35
faenilI see, if I knew the situation was this bad I would have installed it myself to get the trace xD16:35
Sail0rbecause It did not bother me16:35
faenilMorpog_PC: sorry I never read the whole thread, I assumed that had been done :/16:36
Morpog_PCI even bumped the thread till users got annoyed by me :D16:36
Andy80faenil, because coderus said (repeating) yesterday not to spam him with logs....16:36
Sail0rwell, the real problem comes up again there is no really searchable bug tracker16:36
Morpog_PCcoderus, would a strace hekp fixing the cpu bug?16:36
Sail0rand tjc gets flooded with so many dups and co16:37
Andy80Sail0r, I agree16:37
faenilI wish I had time to start reading the code and help with this, guys16:37
faenilbut your best bet is w00t, before he manages to plan his journey! :D16:37
* w00t handily delegates it all to faenil and runs away16:38
Morpog_PCis it too late to start the strace if the bug already happened?16:38
w00tMorpog_PC: no16:38
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faenillol16:38
Morpog_PCgreat, makes it more easy16:38
Sail0rthere will be a lot of output16:38
w00tyep16:38
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w00tjust a few seconds worth of log is plenty16:38
w00t(pipe it to a file, obviously)16:39
Morpog_PCsounds sane16:39
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Sail0rmaybe strace -p pid -f -o whatsapp.log16:39
Sail0rwould be better16:39
Sail0r^^16:39
Sail0rbecause copying from the jolla terminal can be pain16:39
Sail0rif you have it not attached to a pc16:39
Morpog_PCdo i need to install some additional repo to get strace?16:40
faenilyou can also create a .desktop that runs that command :D16:40
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w00tMorpog_PC: ssu ar mer-tools; zypper ref -f mer-tools16:40
Morpog_PCSail0r, well I use put via USB16:40
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faenilMorpog_PC: I think so, probably add mer-tools repo16:40
faenilcrap, w00t's too fast16:40
* faenil slaps w00t 16:40
w00t:(16:40
Sail0rwell, but maybe you are not at home when the bug occurs16:40
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Morpog_PCfirst need to install zypper :)16:41
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Sail0rpkcon install strace16:41
faenilw00t: awww, no no! there...16:41
* faenil caresses w00t 16:41
w00tor use pkcon16:41
w00tmy old zypper habits still haven't died16:42
Morpog_PCah true, forgot about pkcon16:42
merlin1991javispedro: did you see my small mergerequest gitorious for salmeta?16:42
faenilcya people, they're closing the doors here o/16:42
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javispedromerlin1991, nope, thanks16:45
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* Morpog_PC needs some tinfoil to simulate bad reception16:47
Sail0rlol16:48
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Sail0rdon't burn your phones radio16:48
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r0kk3rzput phone in microwave, make sure you dont turn the microwave on though16:49
r0kk3rzshould be shielded enough for signal dropout16:49
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Sail0rJolla does not have WAVE ;)16:50
Morpog_PClol16:50
raa700we need WAVETOH16:50
Sail0r!!16:50
Merbot`Sail0r: Error: "!" is not a valid command.16:50
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Sail0rsilence16:51
r0kk3rzwaaaaavetoh16:51
r0kk3rzall those apple fans would be so jealous16:51
Sail0rkimmoli can do this for sure16:51
r0kk3rzbut seriously, it should be shielded enough16:52
Morpog_PCyeah that tinfoil only kills 3g, 2g still works16:52
Sail0rthat's because you bought the cheap one16:52
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Sail0ryou must buy the premium tinfoil16:53
Sail0rxD16:53
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Morpog_PC:D16:53
r0kk3rzconspiracy grade tinfoil16:53
Sail0rnsa ready tinfoil16:53
Morpog_PCbugs seem never to happen when you want them to happen16:53
merlin1991Morpog_PC: i rember trying that, and then putting the whole device into foil and then a metal box and one more but the signal wouldn't drop, wasn't the jolla though16:53
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Sail0rtry the microwave16:54
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raa700Morpog_PC: wouldn't they be called features then?16:54
Morpog_PC3 minutes to charge it completely? :D16:54
merlin1991raa700: only if they're documented16:54
Sail0r1 min 1500watt16:54
Sail0r;)16:54
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r0kk3rzdoesnt happen every time i have signal dropouts though16:57
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r0kk3rzjust to be extra tricky16:57
Morpog_PCmicrowave only blocks wifi signal and 3g, 2g was still connected with 2/316:57
Morpog_PCkinda impressive16:58
r0kk3rzthis is the problem with radio signals, never there when you want them16:58
r0kk3rzimpossible to get rid of when you dont16:58
Morpog_PCjust like bugs?16:58
Sail0rif you turn on the microwave the signal is gone and i am 100% sure :x16:59
Sail0rdisable 2g16:59
Morpog_PCyou cannot disable 2g17:00
r0kk3rzflightmode17:00
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Morpog_PCwell, that completely disabled17:01
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r0kk3rzis there a command to toggle the flightmode that doesnt have the 5sec wait?17:01
Sail0rdbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.ofono /ril_0 org.ofono.RadioSettings.SetProperty string:"TechnologyPreference" variant:string:"umts" according to ofono doku this should only enable umts17:01
Sail0rhttps://git.kernel.org/cgit/network/ofono/ofono.git/tree/doc/radio-settings-api.txt17:02
Sail0rhttp://fpaste.org/135819/91771141/17:03
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Morpog_PCmaybe I'm not the best target to reproduce the bug when I only get it about once a week17:05
Sail0rbut I think you can never simulate what happens in the wild17:05
Sail0ronce a week is better then never ;)17:06
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Morpog_PCI wonder what software version ran on those demo devices in india launch event17:08
Sail0rwhy? are there differences?17:09
Morpog_PCi dunno, could be they used some newer builds to show off a bit17:09
Sail0rlike working caldav? ;)17:09
Morpog_PCor a real smooth UI17:10
Sail0ror carddav17:10
Sail0ror angry birds toh!17:10
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r0kk3rzwhatever improvents are in update 9 i guess17:10
Morpog_PCwell then it's smoother UI :D17:11
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r0kk3rzor even 1017:11
Sail0rwhat really happend to the angry birds toh?17:11
Morpog_PCit wasn't released yet17:11
Morpog_PCno comment from Jolla there17:11
Sail0rhm17:11
Sail0rthe other one from the fashion brand?17:12
r0kk3rzsurely that would get released along with angry birds game for jolla17:12
Morpog_PCyounited should come in H2 201417:12
r0kk3rzwhich also has yet to be released17:12
Sail0rhm :-/17:12
Morpog_PCwell H2 2014 is till 31.12. ;)17:13
Sail0rhehe17:13
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coderusMorpog_PC: i have no idea, really :)17:28
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Morpog_PCi try to reproduce the bug and send the output to w00t. He will have a look at it.17:29
BasilSemuonovMorpog_PC, there will be nothing there, I tried already. i'm working on fix, since i'm able to reprodure bug17:29
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Morpog_PCnice! how can you reproduce it?17:30
Morpog_PCyou could get in contact with w00t too, maybe he can help you17:30
BasilSemuonovw00t suggested couple of tools for debugging. using some test equipment from work17:30
BasilSemuonovalready did ;)17:30
Morpog_PCah nice17:30
Morpog_PCso maybe it will be fixed finally17:31
w00t(let me know when you're working on it, BasilSemuonov, and maybe i can try help then)17:31
Morpog_PCthx BasilSemuonov17:31
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r0kk3rzBasilSemuonov: how do you repoduce it?17:42
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BasilSemuonovr0kk3rz, basicaly, drop all packets and switch network twice, so 2 reconnect occures, I'm using faraday cell to block cell network and switch to wifi and back.17:44
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r0kk3rznice one17:45
r0kk3rzi figured it was something to do with patchy network17:46
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faenilah so it seems there are news re *the* bug :)17:57
faenilhappy for you :)17:57
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Sail0rI don't really understand the mountpoints of jolla17:58
Sail0rwhy is /dev/mmcblk0p28 mounted twice17:59
Sail0ras / and as /home17:59
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tadzikbutterfs wizardry?17:59
faenilSail0r: p28 hosts more than one btrfs subvolume17:59
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Nicd-which *the* bug is this?17:59
Sail0rah17:59
Sail0rand how can I display the subvolumes?18:00
faenilSail0r: @ and home-@, if I remember correctly18:00
r0kk3rzNicd-: the mitakuuluu eat all your battery bug18:00
Nicd-\o/18:00
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Sail0rah mount option is subvol=@home18:00
Sail0rfor /home18:00
faenilSail0r: btrfs subvolume list <mountpoint>18:02
Sail0rthx18:02
Sail0rah there is factory18:03
Sail0rand factory-home18:03
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faenilyep18:03
faenilthose are the factory subvolumes18:03
faenilbasically what factory reset does is: delete @ and @home, and snapshot factory ones to @ and @home18:04
faeniland then some other bits18:04
faenillike reflashing the other partitions, iirc18:04
faenilit's all in the init script anyway ;)18:04
faenil(iirc)18:05
faenildinner, bbl18:05
Sail0rso if some one broke their subvolumes18:05
Sail0rit only needs the two factory once to recover?18:06
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Sail0rhttps://together.jolla.com/question/56009/backup-of-devmmcblk0p28/#post-id-56734 I hope it's not to offensive18:28
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BasilSemuonovMorpog_PC, problem seems to be solved18:39
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faenilBasilSemuonov: fixed it?18:45
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BasilSemuonovfaenil, seems so last tests. coderus will release fix18:45
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faenilBasilSemuonov: good to hear ;) mind sharing details? I have never used mikatulu, but I want to know :)18:46
faenil(if there's a PR on the repo, that's ok )18:46
BasilSemuonovunexpected loops occured18:46
faenilok18:46
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faenilBasilSemuonov: so basically bytesAvailable was > 0 but the socket was closed18:52
faenilbecause the connection had dropped or something18:52
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BasilSemuonovyes, current fix is a hotfix, so no battery drain will occur. more precise(right) fix needed here.18:53
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faenilyeah18:54
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r0kk3rzhackfix is better than nofix19:06
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Morpog_PCBasilSemuonov, awesome! I owe you a beer or two if it's working fine :)19:32
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Morpog_PCah hell, I buy you a few beers anyways :D19:46
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Morpog_PCaaaand done ,)19:47
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BasilSemuonovMorpog_PC, a bit more tests, and will be released19:50
eyea_UK_jolla )0!1@ joy19:50
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Morpog_PCnice, I already floow the commit history on github :D19:51
Morpog_PCfollow19:51
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kimmoliooo19:53
eyea_UK_does any one know when September OTA update will arrive19:53
Morpog_PCnot this week19:54
kimmolinot this week19:54
Morpog_PClol19:54
kimmolithat we know for sure19:54
Morpog_PCplan is still this month i guess19:54
eyea_UK_whats new in it19:54
Morpog_PCso I bet on 30th19:54
Morpog_PCeyea_UK_, alot of stuff19:54
Morpog_PCbiggest change is Qt 5.219:54
eyea_UK_like19:54
eyea_UK_ok19:55
Morpog_PCyou can see it on together19:55
kimmoliOfficial info from todays meeting "Update9 release: We expect to have a couple of more release candidates internally before we are good to release. Atleast this week, we will not be releasing it."19:55
eyea_UK_and native browser update19:55
Morpog_PCyes19:56
Morpog_PCgecko 3219:56
Morpog_PCeyea_UK_, https://together.jolla.com/question/55909/official-annoucement-uitukka-is-just-around-the-corner-hold-on/19:56
Morpog_PChttps://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-August/004939.html19:56
eyea_UK_basically firefox engine19:56
Morpog_PCyes, but also UI changes I think, not sure if it's in update 9 already19:57
Morpog_PCthe browser is open source, you can check it's code19:57
Morpog_PChttps://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser19:58
Morpog_PChttps://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/commits/update919:58
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eyea_UK_thanks19:58
Morpog_PCoh it's gecko 31 btw19:58
Morpog_PCthis is how the browser will look with new UI https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/master/design/sailfish-browser-6.jpg19:59
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kimmoli20:03
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eyea_UK_thanks20:07
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eyea_UK_What mobile irc client does everyone use20:08
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Morpog_PCcommuni20:08
Morpog_PCaka "IRC for SailfishOS"20:08
eyea_UK_yep20:08
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Morpog_PCthere are no others with a GUI20:09
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Morpog_PCunless you call terminal a GUI :D20:09
eyea_UK_there is yaircml20:09
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eyea_UK_from F-Droid20:10
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Morpog_PCwell, thats android20:10
eyea_UK_Indeed20:11
Morpog_PCon android i used to use andchat20:11
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r0kk3rzwow, browser update looks awesome20:15
eyea_UK_what of maemo or meego20:15
Tegur0kk3rz: links20:15
Morpog_PCr0kk3rz, that image is there since a few months :D20:15
eyea_UK_irc clients20:16
Morpog_PCi guess it will be uodate 10 or 11 when we get it20:16
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r0kk3rzyeah right, still looks good though20:16
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r0kk3rzid settle for a bugfix release this time round20:16
Morpog_PCeyea_UK_, on harmattan i used "IRC Chatter"20:16
eyea_UK_yep20:17
Morpog_PCr0kk3rz, https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/commits/update920:17
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eyea_UK_any one btc mining20:18
Morpog_PCnope20:18
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eyea_UK_what's  of extra accounts20:19
eyea_UK_are  the coming20:20
eyea_UK_they20:20
Morpog_PCIM?20:20
eyea_UK_yep20:20
Morpog_PCjust needs someone working on it20:20
Morpog_PCI guess community can make it happen20:20
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eyea_UK_then n900 and n9 have extra accounts20:21
eyea_UK_the20:21
Morpog_PCyeo20:21
Morpog_PCyep20:21
eyea_UK_yep20:22
eyea_UK_what of java emu for jolla20:23
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Tegublah, fingerterm hanged again when I opened that link. happens once a while..20:23
Morpog_PCi wonder when we get that silica fingerterm20:23
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eyea_UK_if jolla have a java emu it would be fqb20:24
eyea_UK_fabulous20:25
eyea_UK_we have flash20:25
eyea_UK_just java emu20:25
eyea_UK_to goo20:25
eyea_UK_go20:25
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eyea_UK_does everyone know that sailfish OS runs on wayland20:32
eyea_UK_but wirh a moded compositer20:33
Teguagain hanging.. does it happen for anybody else? (fingerterm sometimes freezing when opening urls, that is)20:34
teveTegu: yep20:36
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coderusMorpog_PC: the main issue is scrolling/text selection interfere with silica back gesture :)20:37
coderusin silica fingerterm i mean20:37
coderuseyea_UK_: what java emu you mean and for what purpose?20:40
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Morpog_PCah, sounds terrible then20:40
coderuseyea_UK_: and i did ICQ for Jolla too, dont have time for more protocols, as most of them are pretty dead for now, because telepathy-haze is pretty old :)20:40
eyea_UK_like on the N90020:41
eyea_UK_java emu20:41
Morpog_PCfor what?20:41
eyea_UK_to run applets20:41
coderusOpenJDK?20:41
coderuscompile and install it20:41
Morpog_PCand you really really need that?20:42
coderusseems new task for nieldk :D20:42
Morpog_PC:D20:42
eyea_UK_open jdk20:42
eyea_UK_from warehouse20:42
eyea_UK_or20:42
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Morpog_PCsounds like it20:46
Morpog_PCso you have it already done20:46
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keithzgHas anyone compiled non-gstreamer applications for audio playback for SailfishOS? I'm still being bugged by the glitch with being unable to play low-frequency audio files (which seriously cuts into the utility of my Jolla as a podcast player for me, since it turns out many of the podcasts I listen to are encoded at 22050Hz mono).22:07
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