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| Shihua_ | when will come this update? | 01:48 |
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| h4PPYC4T | Shihua_: https://together.jolla.com/question/55909/official-annoucement-uitukka-is-just-around-the-corner-hold-on/ - so...when it's done ;) | 01:51 |
| Shihua_ | i am learning c but variable have many types.Imust remember this.Or i just know? | 01:52 |
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| Shihua_ | The TJC I gone.just a few of people are here. | 01:54 |
| Shihua_ | Nobody reply to me. | 01:54 |
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| Stskeeps | morn TMavica | 02:32 |
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| Stskeeps | TMavica: sure is sunny in HK today | 02:36 |
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| TMavica | LOL | 03:04 |
| TMavica | yes | 03:04 |
| TMavica | u should in midnight | 03:06 |
| Stskeeps | nop, im here | 03:08 |
| Stskeeps | need to figure out what i do saturday and sunday | 03:09 |
| Stskeeps | TMavica: was here when cyclone hit too | 03:12 |
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| TMavica | no, just side go through | 03:26 |
| TMavica | no landing | 03:26 |
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| gexc | another update friday? lol | 06:21 |
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| oku | tbr: Fixed the terminal cursor problem. Didn't find the reason though. I made a full reset which fixed that among few other problems. | 06:55 |
| tbr | hmkay | 06:55 |
| tbr | prolly something in the terminal settings | 06:56 |
| oku | it's a hell of a job to do a full reset :/ | 06:56 |
| oku | that's what i suggested, but i tried removing terminal settings and letting it recreate them | 06:56 |
| tbr | mkay | 06:57 |
| oku | at least it works now and my terminal is usable. probably it was just a glitch in my conf or something :/ | 06:57 |
| tbr | glitch in the matrix, mmmm | 06:58 |
| * tbr dispatches some agents to fix that | 06:58 | |
| oku | :D | 06:58 |
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| oku | the weird part was that i had to do two full resets before all problems were gone | 07:00 |
| oku | i thought the full reset would overwrite everything | 07:00 |
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| oku | and i almost couldn't log in to jolla account with my phone, so it almost got me stuck with old os version with no apps | 07:01 |
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| tbr | if reset puts you on 1.0 then there are some dangerous bits that you shouldn't do | 07:02 |
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| tbr | basically you should update immediately | 07:02 |
| oku | yeah, i did almost that the first time, but with next reset i just did the updates | 07:03 |
| oku | actually i only enabled dev mode just to see if my terminal was fixed and then update | 07:03 |
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| oku | that shouldn't break anything | 07:04 |
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| oku | coderus: mitakuuluu chat mute doesn't work at least on group chat | 07:14 |
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| oku | also "load older messages" option is missing on the chat window | 07:15 |
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| coderus | oku: its not displayed in case of no more messages to load :) | 08:05 |
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| pvanhoof | ahoy sailors | 08:06 |
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| oku | coderus: ok, that's nice. but still the mute doesn't work :/ | 09:23 |
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| Sail0r | problems with reboots started again after 2 months and a new jolla -.- | 13:14 |
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| Nicd- | yeah breaking people's shit is really fun | 15:19 |
| Morpog_PC | well, you need to be pretty dumb actually | 15:19 |
| Sail0r | I find it very interesting how people rely on social media | 15:20 |
| Sail0r | They believe everything which shows in their twitter/facebook feed | 15:20 |
| Sail0r | i don't think it funny when people break things but it's very interesting phenomen | 15:20 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah its odd how people take more notice of text if its embedded in an image of some kind | 15:37 |
| Sail0r | jop | 15:38 |
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| SK_work | r0kk3rz: presented with fancyg raphics like Apple ads | 15:39 |
| r0kk3rz | i was more referring to the inspirational quote pictures and other similar type memes | 15:40 |
| r0kk3rz | but yes, in this case a bit of style went a long way | 15:40 |
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| merlin1991 | okay a question for the masses, what do you do when xmpp/jabber doesn't want to go online on your jolla? | 16:30 |
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| tbr | don't know what the unwashed masses do, but I usually manage to get online by cycling in the online status page | 16:34 |
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| tbr | if not I'd whip out mc-tool and dig in | 16:34 |
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| chem|st | merlin1991: reset the account | 17:20 |
| merlin1991 | meaning what exactly? | 17:21 |
| chem|st | special: you have been exposed^^ | 17:21 |
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| chem|st | merlin1991: disable it | 17:21 |
| chem|st | merlin1991: might need to be deleted and setup again, some of the accounts didn't workout that well and I needed to have all off them disabled - services all restarted and enabled again | 17:22 |
| chem|st | twitter did not want to turn off and jabber did not want to connect | 17:23 |
| chem|st | I did not delete the accounts | 17:23 |
| merlin1991 | okay, lets try | 17:23 |
| merlin1991 | I really do wonder though why it happens | 17:23 |
| chem|st | you need to have a working internet connection for some reason | 17:24 |
| merlin1991 | it's there and up | 17:24 |
| merlin1991 | but disable / enable didn't help | 17:24 |
| chem|st | that would be to easy | 17:25 |
| merlin1991 | usually a reboot fixes this problem, but I somehow want to go and debug it | 17:25 |
| chem|st | disable, reboot, enable after having connection again | 17:25 |
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| chem|st | ah ok I was stuck at a point where reboots did not help it | 17:26 |
| merlin1991 | tbr: any docs on the account system, and how to get logs / debug info out of it? | 17:26 |
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| tbr | merlin1991: accounts-sso or telepathy? | 17:28 |
| merlin1991 | whichever glues onlinestatus to the ui | 17:28 |
| merlin1991 | but I'm guessing that's the telepathy side | 17:28 |
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| merlin1991 | and a reboot did fix the jabber connenction ... | 17:29 |
| merlin1991 | next time I have the issue I'll dig in | 17:29 |
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| merlin1991 | hm wtf after going offline once and trying to go back online it doesn't do so anymore ... | 17:31 |
| merlin1991 | facebook happily goes online though | 17:33 |
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| tbr | merlin1991: in my experience it takes some time for XMPP connections to come up etc | 17:33 |
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| merlin1991 | hm I'm looking at it since you wrote that message ... | 17:35 |
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| tbr | you can always ssh in and dig in with mc-tool | 17:37 |
| tbr | if that fails, you can kill telepathy-gabble and start it manually with debug outpu | 17:38 |
| merlin1991 | hm "mc-tool show gabble/jabber/jabber_9" gives me Current: available (2) "" under Presences | 17:40 |
| merlin1991 | but the ui claims I'm offline | 17:40 |
| tbr | ah, then you are likely online and the UI is lying again | 17:40 |
| tbr | check in the people app if you see people online | 17:41 |
| merlin1991 | yeah I just checked that | 17:41 |
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| merlin1991 | i see people online | 17:41 |
| merlin1991 | now why on earth is the ui lying? | 17:41 |
| merlin1991 | but I guess that part is closed so I can't dig into it? | 17:42 |
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| tbr | I think that's essentially part of the home screen, which means you start kicking and screaming on IRC, TJC, randomly poking people like Aard that it's broken etc. | 17:43 |
| tbr | they will just tell you it's a known bug and might be fixed at some point | 17:44 |
| tbr | at least I firmly remember there being a bug at least for cases of "two accounts on the same server" or even "two XMPP accounts", not sure if that also applies to one account | 17:45 |
| merlin1991 | hm I have facebook and 1 xmpp account | 17:45 |
| tbr | if by fakebook you mean their messenger, that's also XMPP IIRC | 17:45 |
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| merlin1991 | true the accounts both start with gabbble/jabber/... | 17:46 |
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| merlin1991 | bah the qml for the per account status view (/usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5/qml/PresenceDetails.qml) is great : some imports and then PresenceDetailsPage {} | 17:53 |
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| coderus | Published Mitakuuluu v0.8.8-4 bugfix update. Please update and report bugs as soon as possible. | 17:59 |
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| chem|st | tbr: another neat bug... just like android leaving the volumerocker active at all times^^ | 18:14 |
| tbr | android is aliendaliv though and 3rd party foo | 18:15 |
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| inte | hello | 18:20 |
| inte | got my metawatcj | 18:20 |
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| inte | which app do i use to connect ? | 18:21 |
| Sail0r | what's the difference between pebble and metawatch? | 18:22 |
| merlin1991 | protocol company size ... | 18:23 |
| Sail0r | I don't know any metawatch app for Jolla | 18:23 |
| Sail0r | I have never heard of metawtach before ^^ | 18:23 |
| merlin1991 | metawatch is also older iirc | 18:23 |
| Sail0r | k | 18:24 |
| Sail0r | and featureset? | 18:24 |
| Sail0r | ok it looks like pebble has much more features http://smartwatches.findthebest.com/compare/1-7/Pebble-Pebble-vs-Meta-Watch-Ltd-MetaWatch-STRATA | 18:24 |
| tbr | Sail0r: there is one in the making | 18:25 |
| Sail0r | tbr: ah ok | 18:25 |
| * tbr is very happy with his metawatch | 18:25 | |
| tbr | hardware is quite similar | 18:25 |
| merlin1991 | tbr which one do you have? | 18:26 |
| tbr | the watch case is much more stylish and reliable on the Metawatch FRAME | 18:26 |
| tbr | I have a FRAME and the early analogue metawatch | 18:26 |
| merlin1991 | I have the first generation digital one | 18:26 |
| tbr | mhm, you'd need to add SPP support to Salmeta for that | 18:27 |
| Sail0r | I like my pebble steel and the pebble daemon for sailfish. But the metawatch looks nice | 18:27 |
| tbr | currently it only supports BLE | 18:27 |
| tbr | the steel seems to come close to a decent watch case | 18:27 |
| Sail0r | I really like my black one it looks good even on my small wrist | 18:28 |
| merlin1991 | hm I'd need to add support for the super old protocol aswell | 18:28 |
| merlin1991 | since I can't flash any firmware since the ble models | 18:28 |
| tbr | some of it might still be the same, but yeah | 18:28 |
| merlin1991 | btw where does salmeta live, github gitorious your harddisk? | 18:29 |
| tbr | gitorious | 18:29 |
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| tbr | I suspect restricting protocol to the v1 features would be fairly easy | 18:30 |
| merlin1991 | I did have the idea to port over the super old version of sowatch that supports the watch but it's probably better to add protocol support to a newer framework | 18:30 |
| tbr | salmeta is AFAICT a reimplementation of sowatch | 18:30 |
| merlin1991 | yep just fount it, all hail javispredo :) | 18:31 |
| tbr | indeed | 18:31 |
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| merlin1991 | I wonder how far it is regarding system notifications / calls and such | 18:31 |
| tbr | working, initial stage | 18:32 |
| tbr | no formatting or anything yet, but it shows up on the phone | 18:32 |
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| tbr | no special watchface features yet | 18:32 |
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| merlin1991 | hm metawatch is getting seriously expensive | 18:39 |
| merlin1991 | the new black leather model if 300$ | 18:39 |
| inte | so i should install salmeta? | 18:42 |
| inte | merlin1991 the current model is 79€ including shipping at metawatch.de! | 18:45 |
| merlin1991 | inte: http://www.metawatch.de/ gives me a 404 | 18:46 |
| inte | ups | 18:46 |
| inte | well the official german page | 18:46 |
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| inte | http://www.metawatch.eu/de/collection | 18:48 |
| inte | .eu sorry | 18:49 |
| merlin1991 | ah well I'm talking about the M1 upcoming model | 18:49 |
| merlin1991 | that starts at 249€ | 18:49 |
| inte | thats the old price for the frame | 18:49 |
| inte | same price, new modell | 18:49 |
| merlin1991 | silly how it is also 249$ in the us | 18:49 |
| merlin1991 | makes no sense! | 18:50 |
| inte | so which software should i use? | 18:50 |
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| inte | whatever | 18:50 |
| merlin1991 | salmeta is the only thingn known to this channel that works | 18:50 |
| merlin1991 | no idea where to get a build though | 18:51 |
| inte | pebbled is pebble-only? | 18:52 |
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| inte | tbr which app are you using? | 18:54 |
| tbr | I've built salmeta and libgato from source | 18:54 |
| inte | oh ok | 18:54 |
| inte | why dont you upload it to openrepos? | 18:55 |
| inte | :) | 18:55 |
| tbr | early adopter on this type of stuff | 18:55 |
| tbr | if you're trying to insult me, you're doing well | 18:55 |
| inte | can you send me the rpms? | 18:55 |
| merlin1991 | tbr not everyone knows about chum ;) | 18:56 |
| tbr | merlin1991: it's not about chum in that context | 18:56 |
| tbr | my utmost distaste for the concept of OR is coincidental | 18:57 |
| inte | hehe | 18:58 |
| tbr | it's an organized version of swapping around random binaries | 18:58 |
| inte | what is so wrong with or? | 18:58 |
| merlin1991 | hm can't get to the webinterface of the obs, did I miss some scheduled downtime? | 18:58 |
| tbr | merlin1991: https://build.merproject.org/ WFM | 18:59 |
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| merlin1991 | I blame Increased sunspot activity. | 19:00 |
| tbr | electron spin needs recalibration | 19:02 |
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| tbr | inte: I can upload RPMs later if you are interested, they are built from git sources, but same as OR you'd have to believe my word that they don't blow up your phone. | 19:12 |
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| inte | currently trying to build them myself... | 19:16 |
| louisdk | If I do a backup on my Jolla phone and safe it, then reset my phone and restore the backup witch settings will then be lost? Ambiances and installed apps? What more? | 19:17 |
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| kimmoli | tbr let a=0x`echo -n "$(dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1 count=1)" | xxd -ps` && dd if=/dev/urandom of=randombinary count=$a && chmod 755 randombinary && ./randombinary | 19:23 |
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| tbr | kimmoli: still tempted to put a couple russian roulette apps on OR. "ya feeling lucky, punk?" | 19:24 |
| kimmoli | reminds me of ninja | 19:24 |
| inte | tbr: that would be amazing! | 19:29 |
| tbr | to randomly corrupt your firmware? | 19:29 |
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| kimmoli | reminds me of ninja | 19:33 |
| kimmoli | äh | 19:33 |
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| phdeswer | louisdk: backup only backs up what is mentioned in the backup menu. So if you want your pics etc you need to save them separately | 19:50 |
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| BasilSemuonov_ | tbr, stop treating and be a man, upload! | 20:03 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | *threatening | 20:04 |
| tbr | BasilSemuonov_: meh, I'm not that childish | 20:05 |
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| tbr | BasilSemuonov_: as a thought experiment it serves well to make a point though. RPMs have root. | 20:06 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | add process isolation, and there will be no problems | 20:08 |
| Nicd- | it's funny that people laugh at iphone users but are willing to install anything from openrepos on their jolla... :P | 20:08 |
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| Sail0r | these are the same people who give their CC numbers to a speaking elk (simpsons) ;) | 20:09 |
| tbr | X solves everything, news at 11. I'll believe it when I see it. | 20:10 |
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| tbr | mind you, everyone is free to use OR. they should just be aware of the possible consequences. | 20:12 |
| tbr | same as people are free to install 3rd party app stores on android | 20:12 |
| Sail0r | or jailbreak their iphone | 20:13 |
| Sail0r | but as long as there are more useful apps on openrepos then in store because of restrictions more people will use OR and more phones will break :x | 20:14 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah well, smart people make it easy for not so smart people to do things they dont understand | 20:14 |
| Sail0r | it's a vicious cycle | 20:14 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | what whole story exists because there is not rom bootloader in jolla, so you can corrupt partitions. just add cgroup and block direct access to block devices, thats all you need | 20:15 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | what=that | 20:15 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | *that whole story exists because there is no rom bootloader in jolla, so you can corrupt partitions. just add cgroup and block direct access to block devices, thats all you need | 20:16 |
| Sail0r | yeah, that's another problem. If we just could say .. ok f***ed my jolla *happens* I reflash it | 20:17 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | Sail0r, if you cannot harm device directly, you can always revert with btrfs. i'm waiting for Stskeeps to get back from hk, and warehouse will add some 'safety' to package management process. | 20:20 |
| Sail0r | :) | 20:21 |
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| h4PPYC4T | tbr: well, there is a huge disclaimer if one enables/allows the installation of "untrusted software". | 20:26 |
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| tbr | h4PPYC4T: and people are goal oriented sheep that will click through everything blindly | 20:27 |
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| h4PPYC4T | tbr: if ppl can't/want to read important disclaimer then it's their own fault, imho. either one wants freedom or security. it's always a tradeoff. ;) | 20:28 |
| tbr | h4PPYC4T: do you also hand out guns to children who don't understand them but tell them not to shoot themselves in the head? | 20:29 |
| h4PPYC4T | ^^ well, we are not talking about children. | 20:29 |
| tbr | yes, we are talking about technology illiterate people. It's beside the point, but there are plenty of minors using the jolla. | 20:31 |
| Sail0r | which is intended by jolla I think ;) | 20:32 |
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| Sail0r | well, I really hope Jolla gets the things done right in the next months | 20:33 |
| tbr | I very much doubt that | 20:34 |
| Sail0r | because the new markets will raise the demand for basic smartphone features | 20:34 |
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| Sail0r | tbr: :-/ same here | 20:35 |
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| h4PPYC4T | which is cool and good. but one can't offer an open system/freedom on one side with granting total security on the other side. if ppl - minor or not - aren't reading disclaimers or aren't aware of the consequencies of their actions, then it's not the fault of the system in the first way. | 20:35 |
| Sail0r | I really love my Jolla but the longer I am using it the more I miss things or hate it for some bugs it has | 20:36 |
| Sail0r | like the horrible reboot bug | 20:36 |
| Sail0r | or shutdown to blackscreen whichever comes first | 20:36 |
| tbr | it's not a bug, that's pretty sure | 20:36 |
| tbr | it's a hardware issue | 20:37 |
| Sail0r | hardware failure? | 20:37 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | tbr, application that zeroes your /dev/mmcblk0 is a malware or not? And if it intended to do so? example: prior to shipping your device to care, you want to wipe all your private security data from the phone, so it cannot be restored? | 20:37 |
| Sail0r | I received a new Jolla after mine broke horrible (vibration stuck, blackscreen all the time and another thing which i forgot) | 20:37 |
| Sail0r | and everything run fine until this week ... and the blackscreens and reboots started again | 20:37 |
| Sail0r | it's 1 1/2 months since receiving the new one | 20:38 |
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| tbr | BasilSemuonov_: there should be no need for the average user to access block devices. the device has a factory reset feature | 20:38 |
| tbr | Sail0r: tried cleaning the contacts yet? | 20:39 |
| Sail0r | oO | 20:39 |
| Sail0r | what to the contacts have to do with the crashes? | 20:39 |
| r0kk3rz | when its the battery | 20:39 |
| r0kk3rz | surprisingly a lot | 20:39 |
| Sail0r | hm | 20:39 |
| tbr | yes | 20:39 |
| Sail0r | Tried that on the old one which had no effect | 20:40 |
| tbr | and it needs to be done carefully and with the right tools | 20:40 |
| Sail0r | and on the new one they look pretty good | 20:40 |
| tbr | just putting your greasy fingers on those will make it worse | 20:40 |
| Sail0r | a bit sandpaper maybe? | 20:40 |
| Sail0r | I wonder why these issue start suddenly | 20:41 |
| tbr | Sail0r: the suspicion is a thin oxide layer buildup, for yet unknown reasons | 20:41 |
| Sail0r | is it really corrosion from having it in the pocket all the day? | 20:42 |
| tbr | certainly a possibility | 20:42 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | tbr, make factory reset, send me dd partition, and I send you all your private staff back to you. If there is no need to average users - add security: default cgroup rules. | 20:42 |
| Sail0r | maybe the same thing which happend on the LG smartwatch | 20:42 |
| Sail0r | electricty paired with the wet env of a pocket | 20:42 |
| Sail0r | maybe it's copper rust | 20:43 |
| tbr | BasilSemuonov_: I do know that restoring to facotry defaults doesn't zero the data. Though I am not familiar with the exact process employed by the phone. | 20:43 |
| tbr | BasilSemuonov_: still there is no need to deliberately break the device in such a way where even care won't be able to recover it by flashing | 20:44 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | tbr, contacts/messages loss is a huge problem? | 20:45 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | tbr, that can be done by any application from harbour and openrepos. you either protect and jail everything, or nothing. | 20:46 |
| tbr | BasilSemuonov_: you said you want to dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk0 - that will terminally destroy your device with no chance for reflash by care | 20:46 |
| Sail0r | what's stored in mmcblk0? | 20:47 |
| tbr | Sail0r: that's the _whole_ emmc, including "special" data and firmware | 20:47 |
| Sail0r | oh | 20:47 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | tbr, that is hardware/design phone fail, since there is no rom loader | 20:47 |
| Sail0r | so no fastboot afterwards? | 20:47 |
| tbr | BasilSemuonov_: same on pretty much every android device, that's also design fail? | 20:48 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | tbr, dont you say, they emmc 'manufactured' with some special jolla data, that data flashed there, and can be reflashed | 20:48 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | tbr, yes | 20:48 |
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| meow_ | tbr: I agree with BasilSemuonov_, it's an hardware design fail... same for the android devices | 20:49 |
| tbr | meow_: I disagree, the user should not be root nor should they write to block devices. | 20:49 |
| meow_ | tbr: the openmoko freerunner had an unbrickable bootloader that is stored on a separate chip, not on the nand where the operating system resides | 20:49 |
| tbr | good luck, adds enough to the bom to make it a non starter | 20:50 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | tbr, if user should not be root, why there is option for 3rd party side-loading? just make another ios, thats it. | 20:50 |
| tbr | BasilSemuonov_: because there are tinkerers and developers, who this feature caters to. it is clearly NOT for users. | 20:51 |
| tbr | misappropriating it as such, especially by open repos is dangerous | 20:51 |
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| BasilSemuonov_ | for tinkerers and developers, there is flashing guide with usb connection to the phone. | 20:52 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | as you said: give gun to a baby, and say - dont shoot from it. | 20:53 |
| h4PPYC4T | tbr: so what is your solution for it? :) if disclaimers aren't enough, i don't know. i bought my jolla exactly because it's open and not locked. | 20:53 |
| Sail0r | but tbr if it's a hardware issue why does Jolla not announce as it? | 20:53 |
| tbr | h4PPYC4T: you understand the risks and that you don't have a warranty if you screw it up. so there is no problem, is there? | 20:54 |
| h4PPYC4T | yep. no problem. it's a good trade-off for me. :) | 20:55 |
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| tbr | Sail0r: who knows, we don't know for sure, we don't know if jolla knows for sure, we don't know who, if is responsible for it, might be their ODM or someone else. | 20:55 |
| tbr | you quickly arrive at an interesting corporate blame game | 20:56 |
| Sail0r | the problem is it really pisses people off | 20:56 |
| Sail0r | If i can't trust my phone that it is on when I need it I am a bit pissed when it happens more often then my android has done that ;) | 20:57 |
| tbr | Sail0r: sure, and you probably noticed the standard answer you get. "contact care", I bet it's for a reason. | 20:57 |
| Sail0r | yeah, but for me changing the whole device only fixed it for a couple of months | 20:57 |
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| Sail0r | as I said I really like my Jolla but there are things which annoy me | 20:58 |
| r0kk3rz | i do wonder whether they have an updated SKU in the works | 20:59 |
| tbr | well, again you have two choices, take it back to care and eventually give up and return for a refund | 21:00 |
| tbr | or on the other hand try cleaning the contact surfaces carefully and live happy ever after | 21:00 |
| tbr | even kimmoli's teenage daughter managed ;) | 21:00 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe its not really worth it with phones because they only have such a short life | 21:00 |
| tbr | to summarize: situation is annoying, there is an sub-optimal official way and a community workaround that helps most people. | 21:01 |
| Sail0r | tbr: i will try the last ;) | 21:02 |
| inte | Sail0r what charger are you using? | 21:02 |
| Sail0r | n900 charger | 21:02 |
| Sail0r | and sometimes jolla charger (at office) | 21:02 |
| tbr | Sail0r: try something like a blue side of a red/blue eraser, or gently go over the surface with a flat screw driver | 21:02 |
| inte | i had this switching-off issue when i was using a 2a charger | 21:02 |
| tbr | don't touch with your fingers | 21:03 |
| Sail0r | ok will try it tbr | 21:03 |
| tbr | as finger grease is bad | 21:03 |
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| Sail0r | like always ;) | 21:03 |
| Sail0r | it's like the people who upgrade their ram and always touch the contacts | 21:03 |
| inte | since i reverter to the genuine jolla charger *only* it disappeared after a few cycles | 21:03 |
| Sail0r | well, in the last time I often used usb developer mode | 21:04 |
| inte | could of course be coincidence | 21:04 |
| Sail0r | maybe it's because of the issue I had once before the short charging cycles | 21:04 |
| tbr | what might often help already is to reseat the battery a couple of times | 21:04 |
| Sail0r | today I discharged it to 10% took out the battery for an hour | 21:04 |
| tbr | so that the contacts rub against each other | 21:04 |
| Sail0r | and now charging it to 100% without turning on | 21:04 |
| Sail0r | but I will try cleaning the contacts :) | 21:05 |
| inte | sail0r how much ampere does the n900 charger has, | 21:06 |
| inte | same as jolla? | 21:06 |
| inte | or more | 21:06 |
| tbr | old nokia usb chargers were around 900mA IIRC | 21:06 |
| Sail0r | 1,2 A | 21:07 |
| Sail0r | Nokia AC-10 MicroUSB Charger | 21:07 |
| Sail0r | according to the ms site about n900 ;) | 21:07 |
| Sail0r | it's really weird to go to ms.com to check n900 specs ^^ https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/mobile/phone/n900/specifications/ | 21:07 |
| inte | so its more | 21:07 |
| r0kk3rz | well, by 200ma | 21:08 |
| inte | i suggest trying the 1a charger only for some time | 21:08 |
| Sail0r | ok so jolla charger only | 21:08 |
| inte | maybe the higher ampere confuses the logic | 21:09 |
| Sail0r | like short charging cycles | 21:09 |
| inte | i don't know | 21:09 |
| Sail0r | this really confuses the logic | 21:09 |
| r0kk3rz | you shouldnt do short cycles anyway, wears your battery | 21:10 |
| inte | give it a try i have the impression it helped for me | 21:10 |
| tbr | inte: I can't be bothered to get up right now, but suspect the charging current will be identical | 21:10 |
| tbr | as it's just the _max_ rating for the charger and the device decides about the current it draws | 21:10 |
| Sail0r | r0kk3rz: I know but sometimes I use the devmode with usb and only for a short time ;x | 21:11 |
| r0kk3rz | that shouldnt be so bad | 21:11 |
| inte | tbr its not evidence based jbut was my impression | 21:12 |
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| inte | tbr: did you upload the metawatch rpms anywhere already? | 21:17 |
| tbr | let me have a quick look | 21:18 |
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| tbr | inte: http://ruecker.fi/foss/sailfish/libgato-0.1.6-1.armv7hl.rpm http://ruecker.fi/foss/sailfish/salmeta-0.1.1-1.armv7hl.rpm - they are compiled recently from git checkouts of both repositories, no warranty if it even is in a working state | 21:25 |
| inte | great thanks | 21:26 |
| tbr | don't distribute, them or advertize them please. the software is still in an early stage and it's up to javispedro to decide when he goes ahead with more public | 21:26 |
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| inte | yeah | 21:26 |
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| inte | tbr works but how do i use it? | 21:37 |
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| tbr | inte: reset your BLE capable metawatch by holding the middle buttons, then make the jolla connect to it | 21:39 |
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| tbr | this might come in handy (as nemo): systemctl --user restart salmeta.service | 21:40 |
| inte | cool | 21:49 |
| inte | thanks!! | 21:49 |
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| inte | there are not particular much functions yet right? | 21:53 |
| inte | only two watchfaces? | 21:53 |
| inte | and, time doesnt seem to be synced | 21:54 |
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| inte | can i install customized whatchfaces? | 21:58 |
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| inte | and what is that "replayscreen"? | 22:07 |
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| tbr | inte: time sync should happen | 22:16 |
| tbr | inte: no custom faces yet | 22:16 |
| inte | thanks! | 22:17 |
| inte | now i also know what the replay scrern does:) | 22:18 |
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