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| Stskeeps | morning | 02:29 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.8.8-5 bugfix released. Settings now really really really fixed, muting fixed to :D https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu | 06:52 |
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| inte | coderus: great thanks! | 07:05 |
| inte | so no more cpu load with this version? | 07:05 |
| coderus | inte: cpu still same | 07:05 |
| coderus | it unresolvable :) | 07:05 |
| coderus | nobody knows why it happening | 07:06 |
| inte | oh | 07:06 |
| inte | ok | 07:06 |
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| inte | so i might write a watchdog script which checks mtkl-cpu-load every 60 seconds, and if it is 100% just kills mk and restarts it? | 07:08 |
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| inte | no nice fix but maybe something that can at least save some battery:) | 07:10 |
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| TMavica | coderus: here? | 07:20 |
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| Morpog_PC | inte, the cpu bug is very rare since a few versions | 07:20 |
| TMavica | Muted Contact in pulley menu show nothing after I muted a group | 07:21 |
| TMavica | swipe down then open again, the muted icon of group all gone | 07:22 |
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| coderus | TMavica: fuckin muting >< | 07:33 |
| TMavica | LOL.. | 07:41 |
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| TMavica | coderus: normally this is very important, i got disturb continuously by group chat | 07:44 |
| TMavica | lol | 07:44 |
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| coderus | i see | 07:52 |
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| TMavica_Jolla | Stskeeps: i use this now | 08:01 |
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| topi`_ | how do I play back my MP3 collection on my Jolla phone? | 08:55 |
| topi`_ | it seems there is no "Music" app | 08:55 |
| TMavica_Jolla | store | 08:55 |
| topi`_ | is my best bet to move MP3's over the USB connection? | 08:55 |
| TemeV | topi`_: with media app | 08:56 |
| topi`_ | ok, i'll try that | 08:56 |
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| topi`_ | "mediasoitin"? | 08:56 |
| TemeV | sounds right | 08:56 |
| topi`_ | :) | 08:56 |
| chem|st | topi`_: jolla apps? | 08:56 |
| topi`_ | that was a fast install | 08:56 |
| topi`_ | do you guys get 4G working? | 08:57 |
| chem|st | topi`_: yes | 08:57 |
| TemeV | yes | 08:57 |
| topi`_ | it says "3G" for me :/ | 08:57 |
| chem|st | topi`_: that is your provider/contract | 08:57 |
| topi`_ | maybe it's just bad reception here.. | 08:57 |
| topi`_ | true, need to check my contract | 08:58 |
| TemeV | do you have "prefer 4G in settings"? | 08:58 |
| topi`_ | actually this is employer's phone | 08:58 |
| TemeV | I think that is the default setting though | 08:58 |
| topi`_ | right | 08:58 |
| topi`_ | I'll move over some MP3 data, let's see how well it plays | 08:58 |
| chem|st | topi`_: your employer bought it for you or you are setting it up for your boss? | 08:59 |
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| chem|st | topi`_: the media app is pretty crap atm, it plays most stuff but playlist editing is a pain, so is making a play queue, taped to short on an item and it plays it and the folder you are in and the 40 things you already added are gone :( | 09:01 |
| topi`_ | can Jolla uncompress a .zip file? if I drop in a zipped archive of mp3s... | 09:01 |
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| chem|st | yes | 09:01 |
| topi`_ | chem|st: fair enough, but I'm not a heavy playlist user anyways... I just put Random play on and go on doing my stuff | 09:02 |
| chem|st | topi`_: so you use "play all random"? | 09:02 |
| chem|st | on n9 it was already bad but you could have it tag favourites and play them | 09:03 |
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| r0kk3rz | if you've got a lot of songs, make sure you wait 10s or so for the song menu to load | 09:04 |
| chem|st | topi`_: as you are starting off fresh, have you read through the online guide? there are some pretty neat things you can learn from that | 09:04 |
| r0kk3rz | otherwise shuffle all misses things | 09:04 |
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| chem|st | r0kk3rz: oh... did not notice that yet... | 09:05 |
| r0kk3rz | ive only got about 1500 songs on my jolla. and its noticable for me | 09:05 |
| r0kk3rz | not that i use the jolla player anymore | 09:06 |
| stephg | how are your new features coming r0kk3rz? | 09:06 |
| r0kk3rz | sorting out some new library menus at the moment | 09:06 |
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| topi`_ | I connected my Jolla to my computer and chose "PC connection" from jolla's screen, but nothing appears on Linux side | 09:29 |
| topi`_ | I see it advertises it as usb-storage disk, but there are no partitions to mount! why? | 09:30 |
| chem|st | topi`_: MTP has no partitions to mount | 09:31 |
| chem|st | topi`_: mtp stack installed on your linux? | 09:32 |
| topi`_ | probably not | 09:32 |
| topi`_ | lemme chekc | 09:32 |
| topi`_ | libmtp-common? | 09:32 |
| chem|st | mtp-tools | 09:33 |
| topi`_ | ok, apt'getting | 09:33 |
| chem|st | and with that libmtp stuff | 09:33 |
| topi`_ | and then, what next? | 09:34 |
| topi`_ | nothing auto-mounts... | 09:34 |
| chem|st | has anyone managaed to get bash_completion to work properly? | 09:34 |
| chem|st | topi`_: unplug, replug | 09:34 |
| topi`_ | is there a /home/user partition to mount like in the N9? | 09:34 |
| chem|st | with a wait | 09:34 |
| topi`_ | where the music files would reside? | 09:34 |
| chem|st | topi`_: no there is no massstorage mode | 09:34 |
| chem|st | mtp only | 09:35 |
| topi`_ | ok | 09:35 |
| chem|st | but as you are on linux | 09:35 |
| chem|st | I pretty much never ever hook it up via usb | 09:35 |
| topi`_ | how does mtp work? Does it "know" that for music files, they go to this path, and so on? | 09:35 |
| topi`_ | I tried uploading the .zips via Windows 7 bluetooth connection, but it failed | 09:36 |
| chem|st | topi`_: some devices can do that, never tried with jolla | 09:36 |
| topi`_ | (probably because of windows) | 09:36 |
| chem|st | I connect my jolla to my local wlan and mount it on my linux | 09:36 |
| chem|st | or rsync | 09:36 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah scp or rsync is probably the go for linux | 09:37 |
| chem|st | mtp is drunk! | 09:38 |
| r0kk3rz | which sucks, you'd think a linux phone would work with linux | 09:38 |
| chem|st | r0kk3rz: by using microsoft technology? | 09:38 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah... | 09:38 |
| topi`_ | btw, I'm running Ubuntu on my Samsung Chromebook, that might be one cause why libmtp doesn't mount stuff | 09:39 |
| topi`_ | because I'd need to get that libmtp running on the ChromeOS side.. *sigh* | 09:39 |
| r0kk3rz | topi`_: the jolla has Tracker on it, which scans the phone for items | 09:39 |
| r0kk3rz | sticks the results into a sparql database, which the media app sees | 09:40 |
| chem|st | topi`_: ubuntu should be just fine | 09:40 |
| r0kk3rz | so it doesnt matter where you put stuff, and it should find it | 09:40 |
| coderus | Uploaded #Mitakuuluu v0.8.8-6 bugfix. Muting contacts should work now. | 09:40 |
| topi`_ | r0kk3rz: interesting... | 09:40 |
| topi`_ | chem|st: yeah, Ubuntu should, but this is ChromeOS where Ubuntu runs in a chroot | 09:41 |
| r0kk3rz | does it for documents, pictures, music, videos etc | 09:41 |
| topi`_ | so the story is more complicated, but works for most userspace stuff | 09:41 |
| chem|st | oh... | 09:41 |
| topi`_ | I do like the simplicity of ChromeOS, it's just fine for browsing | 09:41 |
| chem|st | topi`_: mtp does not work on my usb3 hub in debian... just as example | 09:41 |
| r0kk3rz | it makes writing apps really really easy, because you dont have to worry so much about finding files | 09:42 |
| chem|st | topi`_: you have a double-fail samsung+google... I have a samsung NC10, with debian... | 09:42 |
| topi`_ | hehe :) | 09:43 |
| chem|st | topi`_: can you hook it up to your wlan and transfer files via scp/rsync? | 09:43 |
| topi`_ | IMO chromeos+chrubuntu works just fine, as long as you're aware of the problems waiting there in lower levels | 09:43 |
| topi`_ | chem|st: yes, that would be a good approach. | 09:43 |
| topi`_ | is there a ssh server by default on Jolla? | 09:43 |
| chem|st | topi`_: or sftp if you are a mouse guy | 09:43 |
| topi`_ | no mice here. | 09:44 |
| chem|st | awesome(TM) | 09:44 |
| chem|st | touchpads made me use windowmanagers that do not need mice^^ | 09:45 |
| r0kk3rz | topi`_: if you've enabled dev mode, then yeah ssh should work | 09:45 |
| chem|st | at least, it is easier than getting mtp to work^^ | 09:45 |
| chem|st | topi`_: some folder structure notes for you | 09:46 |
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| chem|st | aliendalvik fusemounts /data/media/ to $HOME/android_storage/ so don't try to write anything to /data/media/ while aliendalvik is running | 09:47 |
| chem|st | sdcards will show up as /media/sdcard/$UUID/ and will sometimes show up when mtp works properly | 09:47 |
| chem|st | music folder is $HOME/Music | 09:49 |
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| r0kk3rz | and when you get fed up with the Media app, get mine off openrepos instead :P | 09:49 |
| chem|st | if you want to have android stuff moved to sdcard and still be able to use it as normal storage you may follow my instructions on tjc | 09:50 |
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| chem|st | r0kk3rz: is the sailfish one open yet? | 09:50 |
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| r0kk3rz | the jolla one isnt to my knowledge | 09:53 |
| chem|st | r0kk3rz: what is yours called? | 09:53 |
| r0kk3rz | mines open, and not too far off feature parity with jollas one | 09:53 |
| r0kk3rz | SirenSong | 09:53 |
| r0kk3rz | really needs more library menus | 09:54 |
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| r0kk3rz | but complicated GUIs take time | 09:55 |
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| r0kk3rz | but if you spend all your time in the all songs list, and like all random, it works well | 10:00 |
| chem|st | r0kk3rz: your description has a typo "Mutimedia | 10:03 |
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| r0kk3rz | fixed, thanks | 10:04 |
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| faenil | ah, there you go :) | 10:04 |
| faenil | oops | 10:04 |
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| Venemo_ | faenil: heya | 10:06 |
| faenil | o/ | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | m00 | 10:07 |
| TMavica_Jolla | coming | 10:08 |
| TMavica_Jolla | just bathed | 10:08 |
| chem|st | TMavica_Jolla: you are too fast | 10:08 |
| TMavica_Jolla | wt too fast | 10:08 |
| Venemo_ | faenil: you wanted to drag me to #nemomobile but my IRC client crashed | 10:08 |
| chem|st | lol | 10:09 |
| faenil | Venemo_: I dragged you too hard, sorry :D | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | wrong window :p | 10:09 |
| TMavica_Jolla | yes.. | 10:09 |
| Shinryuu | ;) | 10:10 |
| Venemo_ | faenil: no problem | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | so hot in hong kong.. | 10:10 |
| Venemo_ | so cold in here | 10:10 |
| faenil | hot in Pisa as well :D | 10:10 |
| kimmoli | just fine in Finland :) | 10:10 |
| Venemo_ | :P | 10:10 |
| faenil | just fine == -15° ? :D | 10:11 |
| kimmoli | (who needs meecast?) | 10:11 |
| kimmoli | faenil: waiting for weathers like -5 actually | 10:11 |
| faenil | :) when I came to FI last Nov-Dec, it was like -5, and I was told it was the hottest Dec of the last 126years or something | 10:12 |
| kimmoli | yesterday i heard conversation where someone said that it should be prohibited people living this north as it consumes too much energy during wintertime | 10:13 |
| faenil | makes sense :p | 10:14 |
| kimmoli | but look those countries where avg temp > 25 , what they are doing? just fighting and killing others | 10:14 |
| faenil | lol | 10:14 |
| kimmoli | this summer in finland was too hot, and people went crazy | 10:14 |
| TMavica_Jolla | lol | 10:14 |
| Morpog_PC | erm, in arabic emirates they put air conditioners in the outside to ccol tourists and they cool the pools........... | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | sounds nice | 10:15 |
| Venemo_ | kimmoli: and they are also wasting their energy to cool their rooms down to 15°C with air conditioners | 10:15 |
| kimmoli | and (at least i) didn't got anything done... just siesta | 10:15 |
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| Morpog_PC | and that at 50°C outside | 10:15 |
| kimmoli | we are cooling indoor temp down if outdoor is > 23 | 10:16 |
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| r0kk3rz | Fi was nice in spring | 10:19 |
| r0kk3rz | couple of cold snaps but 30C+ days, sunny | 10:19 |
| Venemo_ | kimmoli: 23? really? | 10:22 |
| kimmoli | at least my brother is doing so | 10:22 |
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| Venemo | wow | 10:22 |
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| topi`_ | odd. if I start the browser now, it crashes right before it opens its window | 10:26 |
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| topi`_ | (or brings it to foreground) | 10:26 |
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| topi`_ | let's see if a reboot cures. | 10:26 |
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| r0kk3rz | topi`_: known bug | 10:26 |
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| Sail0r | http://www.jollausers.com/2014/09/you-can-now-evade-nsa-thanks-to-a-jolla-sailor/ | 11:48 |
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| Venemo | Sail0r: yeah, thanks to special :) | 12:11 |
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| inte | Sail0r so this is something similar to tox? | 12:16 |
| inte | and is it available already | 12:16 |
| inte | like through OR or direct download? | 12:16 |
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| Nicd- | hehe, my mom has decided she wants a jolla | 12:47 |
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| AJAX555 | Nicd-: a cool mother you have then | 13:07 |
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| Nicd- | well, she's a former programmer and she wants to support the company | 13:08 |
| AJAX555 | even cooler | 13:08 |
| Nicd- | but she's never had a touchscreen phone before so we'll see, I'll demo mine to her | 13:08 |
| AJAX555 | heh, I've had one touchscreen phone before jolla | 13:09 |
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| inte | i had two | 13:12 |
| inte | n900 and n9 | 13:12 |
| AJAX555 | I had nokia 5230 | 13:13 |
| inte | well, three | 13:13 |
| inte | SE P1i | 13:13 |
| inte | 2,5:) | 13:13 |
| kimmoli | Nicd-: aa phone, i through the real thing | 13:14 |
| kimmoli | *thought | 13:14 |
| inte | i really liked the concept of the P1i | 13:14 |
| inte | clickwheel, touchscreen and keyboard | 13:15 |
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| Nicd- | kimmoli: phone, yes | 13:15 |
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| Andy80 | hi | 13:34 |
| Andy80 | I've just reinstalled Mitakuuluu and I'm trying to register my number, but I can't receive the code via SMS not via phone call | 13:35 |
| Andy80 | is there any known issue? | 13:35 |
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| Andy80 | I've tried again and now I get an error that says I did too many code requests :( | 13:39 |
| Andy80 | coderus, do you know if there are any problem with WhatsApp registration servers? | 13:39 |
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| Venemo | Nicd-: good luck to your mother :) | 14:11 |
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| coderus | Andy80: why voice? sms not working? | 14:48 |
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| coderus | you can check features status on status page in settings :) | 14:53 |
| Nicd- | but can he get to the settings page if he hasn't activated the account? | 14:53 |
| coderus | nope | 14:54 |
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| * Andy80 back | 15:00 | |
| Andy80 | both sms and voice were not working | 15:00 |
| Andy80 | also... I had to wait some minutes before being able to register again because it said I had tried too many times | 15:00 |
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| Andy80 | I tried with Android app then.... and sms was not working too, it gave me an error immediatly sayin "impossible to send SMS, try voice?" | 15:01 |
| Andy80 | I said: yes | 15:01 |
| Andy80 | and it said I tried too many times and I have to wait other 22 hours before trying again | 15:01 |
| merlin1991 | javispedro: if I want to add gen1 protocol support to salmeta, what do you consider the right approach, plain forking or trying to add a sort of multi protcol system like in sowatch? | 15:02 |
| javispedro | merlin1991: how does gen1 proto work in your mw? | 15:05 |
| javispedro | er | 15:05 |
| javispedro | gen2 | 15:05 |
| javispedro | merlin1991: can you build 1.5.3 or latest git firmware for it? | 15:05 |
| merlin1991 | last time I tried that didn't work | 15:06 |
| merlin1991 | it's the wds112 model (very first digital) without ble ... | 15:06 |
| javispedro | I could put in non-BLE support | 15:07 |
| javispedro | the older proto is just useless at this point, on the newer firmwares I can't even assign all buttons | 15:07 |
| javispedro | and it would sometimes fail to render the clock itself =) | 15:08 |
| merlin1991 | I know, but I just had no luck whatsoever with newer firmware on my watch ... | 15:08 |
| merlin1991 | I could try again though | 15:08 |
| tbr | bit surprised that nobody else tried. there used to be a fairly active community around the gen1 watches | 15:10 |
| merlin1991 | hm actually I have no idea how to test gen2 protocol if I flash a newer firmware, javispedro any idea how todo a quick test? I have no android or ios device to try with the official application ... | 15:15 |
| javispedro | merlin1991: no idea atm, but I'll try to add in normalBT support in salmeta | 15:16 |
| javispedro | it was planned either way because it should be trivial | 15:16 |
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| Andy80 | coderus, can you please check the service status with your app? I can't open whatsapp anywhere now :\ | 15:19 |
| TemeV | Andy80: if it tells you to wait you have to wait | 15:24 |
| Andy80 | TemeV, :\ | 15:25 |
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| TemeV | You can try to get sms with this https://coderus.openrepos.net/whitesoft/whatsapp_sms | 15:27 |
| TemeV | but my bet is, it'll just tell you to wait also | 15:27 |
| tbr | javispedro: I guess it's the same protocol just with a different transport? | 15:28 |
| javispedro | tbr: yep | 15:28 |
| tbr | btw: just stumbled into this: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/hangups/0.1 | 15:28 |
| tbr | completely unrelated | 15:29 |
| javispedro | except there's some idiot-logic because the old BT transport is byte-oriented, so you may need to reassemble messages | 15:29 |
| * javispedro sighs at the new Evil Google | 15:29 | |
| javispedro | I mean, they're now introducing "standards" for actions in email messages | 15:29 |
| tbr | but now I want to see if I can build a very simple hangouts to irc gateway | 15:29 |
| javispedro | if that's not embrace and extend I don't know what is. | 15:29 |
| tbr | yeah, they have been behaving quite bullyish, even microsoftish recently | 15:30 |
| javispedro | so you can put some "x-gmail-crap: to unsubscribe, push to url xxx" headers in email messages and google will render them as buttons in the UI | 15:30 |
| tbr | o.O | 15:31 |
| tbr | that's news to me | 15:31 |
| javispedro | https://developers.google.com/gmail/act | 15:31 |
| javispedro | https://developers.google.com/gmail/actions/ (sorry) | 15:31 |
| tbr | tnx | 15:31 |
| tbr | that looks like prone to abuse though | 15:34 |
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| TMavica | coderus: I muted a group, muted contact in pulley menu show ok, but it still rings of that group | 15:44 |
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| TMavica | if i use coverpage mute function, is fine, no any ring | 15:44 |
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| merlin1991 | javispedro: I've got a silly question, I have no IAR on this pc atm, but mspdebug can't flash the gen1.d43 file that is in the git tree, can I convert that to something mspdebug will understand? | 15:56 |
| javispedro | merlin1991: is there a .hex file around? it should be able to flash that | 15:56 |
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| merlin1991 | nope, they only checked in teh .d43 files :/ | 15:56 |
| javispedro | hmpf | 15:58 |
| javispedro | I think you can't convert easily between one and the other | 15:58 |
| javispedro | an alternative is a windoze box with one of the msp430 flashers but I presume you don't have one close | 15:59 |
| merlin1991 | there is Watch/ProjectCCS/Gen1/gen1.txt | 16:00 |
| merlin1991 | but it is from a few commits back | 16:00 |
| javispedro | what about https://github.com/MetaWatchOpenProjects/MetaWatch-Gen2/blob/master/Watch/ProjectCCS/Gen1/gen1.txt ? | 16:00 |
| javispedro | ouch | 16:01 |
| javispedro | ok. | 16:01 |
| javispedro | :) | 16:01 |
| javispedro | wait | 16:01 |
| javispedro | actually, gen1.d43 is from the same commit? | 16:01 |
| merlin1991 | true, I didn't notice that in the other commits only the gen2.d43 was updated | 16:02 |
| javispedro | :( | 16:03 |
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| merlin1991 | hm the gen1.txt claims to be 1.5.1 | 16:07 |
| merlin1991 | where did you find 1.5.3? | 16:07 |
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| merlin1991 | oh it's some dropbox dl somewhere | 16:13 |
| merlin1991 | ... | 16:13 |
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| Sail0r | https://aws.amazon.com/free/?sc_ichannel=ha&sc_icountry=en&sc_icampaign=ha_en_FreeTier&sc_icontent=ha_en_211&sc_iplace=ha_en_ed&sc_isegment=d&/ | 16:15 |
| merlin1991 | and ofc it's only gen2 | 16:15 |
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| Shinryuu | e | 16:39 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.8.8-7 bugfix uploaded. Muting settings now really fixed. Update and search for new bugs. | 17:00 |
| coderus | TMavica: ^ | 17:00 |
| TMavica | thx | 17:01 |
| TMavica | u do damn good job | 17:02 |
| TMavica | LOL | 17:02 |
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| coderus | lol :D | 17:13 |
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| kimmoli | lollojen yö | 17:17 |
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| TMavica | let me use a android device to test deeper | 17:45 |
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| TMavica | coderus: bugs found | 17:57 |
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| oku | coderus: cannot send pictures straight from gallery to mitakuuluu. the gallery just quits when trying to select sharing to mitakuuluu | 18:09 |
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| coderus | tm ic. | 18:15 |
| coderus | oku: working for me | 18:17 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.8.8-8 with really fixed gallery download option uploaded: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu | 18:19 |
| TMavica | so fast | 18:21 |
| coderus | so stupid bugs, so sure :) | 18:21 |
| TemeV | seems like I'll wait a while before updating :) | 18:21 |
| TemeV | so many updates recently :D | 18:22 |
| coderus | TemeV: you need to wait until update will popup automatically in application :) | 18:22 |
| coderus | or in chek for update option | 18:22 |
| TemeV | no time for updating. Coding is too interesting :) | 18:23 |
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| TMavica | coderus: confirm fixed | 18:28 |
| coderus | :D | 18:29 |
| coderus | search for other bugs then :) | 18:29 |
| TMavica | I will LOL | 18:31 |
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| TMavica | i am try all function of whatsapp | 18:34 |
| TMavica | trying | 18:34 |
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| javispedro | merlin1991: tbr: obs salmeta packages in http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/javispedro:/salmeta/gato_sailfish_latest_armv7hl/, new version should workaround dup notifications issue | 18:40 |
| javispedro | merlin1991: also it has old BT support, but you need to enable it explicitly with: | 18:41 |
| javispedro | merlin1991: dconf write /apps/salmeta/watch0/transport "'bluetooth'" | 18:41 |
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| tbr | \o/ | 19:02 |
| tbr | time to ditch my own builds and add a repo | 19:03 |
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| oku | coderus: still can't share straight from gallery.tyanks for fixing the mute though, it was more important | 20:04 |
| coderus | oku: get log from gallery to know more. | 20:05 |
| oku | how can iget that? | 20:07 |
| coderus | start jolla-gallery in terminal | 20:10 |
| oku | ok, i'll do it tomorrow | 20:15 |
| oku | thanks alot for the app though :) | 20:17 |
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| merlin1991 | javispedro: thanks, I'll give it a try tomorrow | 22:05 |
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