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| Sail0r | http://crypto.stanford.edu/gyrophone/ | 07:58 |
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| coderus | jolla have gyroscope? afaik no. | 08:01 |
| ln- | yes? | 08:03 |
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| Teme | how does orientation change work then? | 08:03 |
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| Teme | i mean there has to be some component responsible for detecting the change in angle and the only one that pops to my mind is a gyro | 08:04 |
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| pp_ | try the .apk?-) | 08:04 |
| Teme | also it's quite handy for camera stability so i'd put my money on there being one :P | 08:05 |
| radekp_ | Teme: i think accelerometers are used for orientation | 08:06 |
| pp_ | ... starting | 08:07 |
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| sharpneli | Yap it uses accelerometers for orientation. | 08:08 |
| pp_ | doesn't seem to be doing anything | 08:08 |
| pp_ | but might be a case of aliendalvik not implementing the stuff it needs vs. missing hardware | 08:08 |
| Teme | radekp_: yeah, that's true | 08:09 |
| Teme | would make more sense, too, except that it can't be used for video recording stabilization | 08:11 |
| Teme | but i guess Jolla is doing fine without :P | 08:11 |
| Teme | and there might be some software solution for that | 08:12 |
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| ln- | so you're saying Jolla is not suitable to be the main computer of a spacecraft, for it has no gyro | 08:13 |
| sharpneli | Teme: Yeah you can use accelerometer also for that, at least partly. We have this thing called gravity which always points at one direction with constant strength :D | 08:13 |
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| Teme | ln-: i'm not saying that, i just agreed with myself that it can indeed survive without one :D | 08:15 |
| sharpneli | Also you cannot perform any video stabilization in zero gravity environment. | 08:16 |
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| Teme | but how does accelometer take gravity into account? | 08:17 |
| chem|st | ln-: sharpneli the jolla can server a spacecraft... no matter what it has an I²C bus | 08:17 |
| Teme | isn't that the difference for gyro vs. accelometer? | 08:17 |
| chem|st | Teme: the accelerometers are calibrated to -9.81m/s | 08:17 |
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| Teme | aha :) | 08:18 |
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| sharpneli | Yap. Gravity is seen as an acceleration, for rather obvious reasons. | 08:19 |
| chem|st | the difference is basically the sprecision to change in movement | 08:19 |
| sharpneli | So it gives you a lovely constant direction. | 08:19 |
| coderus | please help at #sailfishos to recover device in fastboot :D | 08:19 |
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| chem|st | Teme: you want that 3 axis accelerometer explained? | 08:25 |
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| Teme | nah, i shouldn't start wrapping my mind around it while at work :) | 08:30 |
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| Teme | i guess i am fine knowing that it can be used for said purposes, it's 3-axis and one of them is calibrated for gravity | 08:33 |
| Teme | in case i ever need to think about this again :D | 08:33 |
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| chem|st | Teme: all three are calibrated for gravity, angle is calculated from vectorial force... | 08:48 |
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| Teme | too long since my engineering maths courses, but thanks for the info :) | 09:23 |
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| eyea_UK_ | jolla )0!1@ joy | 10:41 |
| eyea_UK_ | how is every one? | 10:41 |
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| sharpneli | Stskeeps: How's Finland after some time away? | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | sharpneli: "rainy week ahead" | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | i presume that says it all | 11:58 |
| sharpneli | *checks*. Oh. Wow. | 11:58 |
| sharpneli | It has been the hottest summer in ages, and you came just when the rains started :D | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | i'm currently looking at thursday for a beer after work hours, is that something that works for you? | 11:59 |
| Scelt | a beer after work, in Finland? No, that suits no one at all. | 12:00 |
| sharpneli | Thursday looks fine for me | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | entil: how about you? | 12:00 |
| Scelt | In Finland you have many beers after work. | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not sure what counts as work hours but 5-6pm? | 12:00 |
| sharpneli | Quite standard time | 12:00 |
| sharpneli | @ Amsterdam?-) | 12:01 |
| Stskeeps | so let's say 5.30pm at amsterdam then, i'll probably have a jolla tshirt on given that, well, i have no other tshirts along.. :P | 12:01 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 12:01 |
| sharpneli | Yap. | 12:01 |
| sharpneli | I'll take The First One T-shirt | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 12:02 |
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| Stskeeps | if anybody else wants to join for a spontaneous meetup at thursday at 5:30pm at amsterdam bar in rouholathi, helsinki, they're naturally welcome too :P | 12:02 |
| coderus | Powermenu first release: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/powermenu https://pic.twitter.com/UenopPzbal | 12:03 |
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| kor | dang. i'd come, but my jolla is being serviced | 12:07 |
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| ln- | i don't know if you need a jolla to drink a beer. | 12:08 |
| Scelt | ln-: you gotta take the selfie somehow | 12:08 |
| meklu | just take an analog camera | 12:11 |
| meklu | it's what the cool kids use for that +1 nostalgia | 12:12 |
| meklu | rite? | 12:12 |
| Scelt | what's the camera which spits out the image right away | 12:12 |
| Scelt | you could a picture with that and take a picture of that paper picture to put a selfie picture to your facebook album of nice selfie pictures | 12:13 |
| meklu | polaroid | 12:13 |
| Scelt | yeah, that | 12:13 |
| meklu | you need some instagram filters for that | 12:13 |
| meklu | and you need to take a screenshot of the instagram mobile app and then post that to facebook | 12:13 |
| Scelt | maybe you just pour some coffee on that picture | 12:14 |
| meklu | obviously | 12:14 |
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| sharpneli | Oh yeah. Gotta hype this: http://www.khronos.org/opengles/sdk/tools/Reference-Compiler/ . Finally a reference compiler for glsl. It fully supports ES2.0 too. Could be useful for Jolla Q&A | 12:21 |
| sharpneli | It could even be automated for arbitrary games. Just hook up GLESv2.so and pass everything that comes to glShaderSource to the reference compiler too. | 12:23 |
| sharpneli | So in the future when a new Jolla with different GPU comes along it's pretty much guaranteed that everything works out of the box. | 12:23 |
| w00t | sletta: ^^ | 12:24 |
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| meklu | too bad you can't do that offline | 12:30 |
| meklu | but that sounds like a pretty good idea for automated testing | 12:30 |
| meklu | or semi-automated, w/e | 12:31 |
| sharpneli | Yeah you can do it also offline. But for arbitrary games made by someone else the shaders are rarely easily accessible. | 12:31 |
| sharpneli | They are generally in some compressed datafile etc. | 12:31 |
| meklu | well, for arbitrary games you can't be certain how the shaders are | 12:32 |
| meklu | some might be string literals in the program | 12:32 |
| sharpneli | Exactly. | 12:32 |
| meklu | some may be on disk/in an archive | 12:32 |
| meklu | some may be dynamically generated! | 12:32 |
| sharpneli | Yap | 12:32 |
| meklu | i.e. sprintf nonsense with shader constants | 12:32 |
| sharpneli | Tbh that's a good way to do it | 12:33 |
| sharpneli | For retarded drivers it can be faster than using uniforms | 12:33 |
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| meklu | yeah, it's good for something that never ever will change | 12:35 |
| meklu | s/good/not the worst way to do it/ | 12:35 |
| meklu | but hasn't the GLES reference compiler been out for a good while now? | 12:36 |
| sharpneli | And most of the magic numbers in shaders do not really change. They're just tuned by artists to look exactly right and that's it. | 12:36 |
| meklu | yup | 12:36 |
| meklu | putting that stuff into a never-changed uniform would be rather stupid | 12:36 |
| sharpneli | I don't really know how long it has been out. It's just that Khronos talked about it on this years siggraph | 12:36 |
| * meklu has done that a few times in a tiny experiment | 12:36 | |
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| sharpneli | And now it's free to all and it's authoritative. Maybe that's the new thing. | 12:37 |
| meklu | I can definitely remember trying to compile it earlier this year | 12:37 |
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| meklu | it had some pretty wonky .d files left in the tree for whatever reason | 12:37 |
| meklu | dependency lists breaking the build? check! | 12:37 |
| meklu | they looked like they were something auto-generated with cc -MD | 12:38 |
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| meklu | so it wasn't quite as much of a weird thing as it could've been | 12:38 |
| sharpneli | Some things never change, like compiling projects like that. | 12:39 |
| meklu | heh | 12:39 |
| meklu | it's also in SVN, which sort of sucks :( | 12:39 |
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| meklu | hg or git would've been somewhat better, but I guess that's due to history™ or something | 12:39 |
| sharpneli | Depends. If you have just a few persons committing SVN is really quite fine. | 12:40 |
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| sharpneli | git is perfect when you have a really distributed project. | 12:40 |
| narchie | >hg | 12:41 |
| Nicd- | I wouldn't use svn even by myself | 12:41 |
| meklu | I think the thing was published to the public around the time the AZDO talk was held | 12:41 |
| sharpneli | I have a dark secret: I prefer using SVN when I work alone | 12:41 |
| meklu | maybe earlier? | 12:41 |
| sharpneli | It's just checkout and commit. | 12:41 |
| Aciid | hg really standsup if you are using atlassian or bitbucket | 12:41 |
| Aciid | they offer great packages for startups | 12:42 |
| Aciid | and non-profits | 12:42 |
| sharpneli | meklu: Could be. | 12:43 |
| meklu | I use bitbucket for a bunch of small private projects | 12:44 |
| meklu | even my CV is on bitbucket D: | 12:44 |
| meklu | they also provide git hosting, which is what I've been using for all my stuff | 12:45 |
| meklu | hg I've mostly only dealt with with SDL | 12:45 |
| meklu | even though I tried out hg before git | 12:45 |
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| coderus | Powermenu update v0.2.0. Fixed bugs, added more actions. Download: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/powermenu | 13:06 |
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| ballock | I just tried to use my Jolla with a 3g-only aero2(Polish) isp | 13:38 |
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| Stskeeps | ballock: how did that go? | 13:39 |
| ballock | it failed miserably | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | kind of curious, as they use a portal, right? | 13:39 |
| ballock | it's PIN-less, so it was ok not being asked for the pin | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | and what happened next? | 13:40 |
| ballock | but the network coverage icon was out all the time | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | can you get aero2 sims in $RANDOMPOLISHSHOP ? | 13:41 |
| ballock | no, you need to apply for one | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:41 |
| ballock | it's limited to one per person | 13:41 |
| ballock | the sim costs like 30z | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:42 |
| ballock | and it's free | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | are you interested to help debug it? | 13:43 |
| ballock | ssure :) | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | off the head: /system/bin/logcat -b radio might always help | 13:43 |
| ballock | the only problem is im on vacation without wifi | 13:43 |
| ballock | so i either have internet or the sim in | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | just store to some files perhaps | 13:44 |
| ballock | okey | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | journal might be good too | 13:45 |
| * Stskeeps checks more.. | 13:45 | |
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| ballock | ok, brb... rebooting | 13:49 |
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| coderus | Discussion thread for powermenu: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93587 | 13:55 |
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| tadzik | hmm, how can I debug email app's "Sending failed"? | 14:07 |
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| Stskeeps | journal? | 14:07 |
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| tadzik | please tell me more :) | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | journalctl -n 50000 -f | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | as root | 14:08 |
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| tadzik | great, now it sent it w/o problems ;-; | 14:11 |
| tadzik | but this is interesting: QObject::connect: No such signal SmtpClient::connectionError(QMailServiceAction::Status::ErrorCode,QString) | 14:11 |
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| trigpoint | anyone know what mapping the jolla maps app uses? | 15:54 |
| Stskeeps | here maps | 15:54 |
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| trigpoint | thanks Stskeeps | 15:56 |
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| mikma | jolla supporting mobiilivarmenne, oh yeah. | 16:01 |
| Stskeeps | which? | 16:01 |
| mikma | in my case, Sonera ID seems to work fine | 16:01 |
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| Nicd- | anyone elses jolla losing google calendars randomly? | 16:46 |
| Nicd- | my wife's calendar has disappeared again, as have a couple.of others | 16:47 |
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| Nicd- | all are on the same google account and some that are still visible | 16:48 |
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| AlphaNano | Looking for my friend M0zilla.. anyone seen or heard from him recently? | 17:45 |
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| coderus | URGENT! Do not reboot after uninstalling pre 0.2.2 verions of Powermenu! Install v0.2.2 first and uninstall it then. | 18:37 |
| Sail0r | ? | 18:38 |
| Morpog_PC | Sail0r, it will brick your jolla otherwise | 18:39 |
| Sail0r | uh | 18:39 |
| Sail0r | why? what's wrong? | 18:39 |
| Morpog_PC | dunno | 18:40 |
| Morpog_PC | maybe it deletes some lipstick settings on uninstall | 18:40 |
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| coderus | no, it doesnt delete it, and lipstick failed to load then :D | 18:45 |
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| AlphaNano | Looking for my friend M0zilla.. anyone seen or heard from him recently? | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | can't find him in the logs from this channel at least | 18:51 |
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| javispedro | Stskeeps: remember that gear2 qt bug I was chasing? | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 19:03 |
| javispedro | where I had built qt for a gear2 and I was having some graphical corruption on all OpenGL output | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 19:03 |
| javispedro | workaround is actually to run session dbus-daemon beforehand =) | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | .... | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | what | 19:04 |
| javispedro | may actually be a Qt bug afterall | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | well, always a good idea to have dbus up, but . wow | 19:04 |
| javispedro | basically QProcess installs a signal handler for SIGCHILD | 19:04 |
| javispedro | Mali driver is not prepared to handle -EINTR on syscalls caused by signal handlers | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | .. | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | i see where this is leading | 19:05 |
| javispedro | and... Qt uses QProcess to autospawn a dbus session daemon. | 19:05 |
| javispedro | :) | 19:05 |
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| Stskeeps | w00t: ^ | 19:05 |
| javispedro | now even the qsg threaded renderer is working | 19:06 |
| * javispedro watches bouncing bubbles on gear | 19:06 | |
| Stskeeps | sounds like you've made the device useful | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:07 |
| RaYmAn | Stskeeps: coming to xda devcon? You should! :P | 19:07 |
| * javispedro happy :) | 19:07 | |
| Stskeeps | RaYmAn: sadly not planned atm but at least i'm sending some minions.. things may change | 19:07 |
| RaYmAn | Stskeeps: so I heard ;) | 19:08 |
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| Stskeeps | you're going? | 19:09 |
| pdanek | The best smartphone ever: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03007/IBM-Simon-1994_-c_3007865b.jpg | 19:09 |
| RaYmAn | Stskeeps: yup | 19:09 |
| RaYmAn | Stskeeps: just for fun though, not work | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: well, let's see how things pan out | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | i don't yet have my credit cards back after they got stolen so can't book anything at th emoment anyway :P | 19:10 |
| RaYmAn | ouch | 19:10 |
| RaYmAn | sucky | 19:10 |
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| javispedro | wow, admission is 100GBP | 19:17 |
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| * Stskeeps looks forward to FOSDEM next year | 19:20 | |
| javispedro | have to say, fosdem is quite excellent considering it's basically free and yet has a very large attendance | 19:21 |
| javispedro | hats off to their volunteers | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 19:21 |
| vgrade | javispedro: there was an early bird offer, sadly expired now | 19:21 |
| RaYmAn | iirc the conference is mostly non-profit wih everything going back into stuff for attendees | 19:28 |
| * javispedro curses a 5-year old "CLOSED INVALID" qt bug that has caused me quite a few headaches | 19:28 | |
| javispedro | https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-1787 | 19:28 |
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| keithzg | Hmmm, I picked up my Jolla again today (sadly has sat unused for a month; wasn't home much and it only works for me on wifi) and I've been trying to listen to podcasts, but they keep falling into that skipping glitch. | 22:19 |
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| tadzik | skipping glitch? | 22:19 |
| keithzg | You know, where they'll last at most a minute, and then start jumping majorly ahead about every second, so you get 1 second clips from a suddenly swiftly moving audio stream. | 22:19 |
| keithzg | This happens both in gPodder and if I open the same audio file in the main Media app. | 22:20 |
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| keithzg | The files themselves seem complete. | 22:20 |
| keithzg | Especially since I can skip to a random later point, and it'll sound fine...until it starts skipping again. | 22:21 |
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| tadzik | interesting, it never occcured to me, and I use gpodder quite a lot | 22:22 |
| tadzik | is it one specific podcast, or all of them | 22:23 |
| tadzik | ? | 22:23 |
| keithzg | Well, both episodes I tried today have failed, so so far today 100% ;) | 22:24 |
| keithzg | The latest episode of Harmontown demonstrates it. | 22:24 |
| keithzg | Also the WTF reposting of the Robin Williams interview does. | 22:24 |
| keithzg | Looks like at least a few people have reported a similar problem: https://together.jolla.com/question/23341/garbled-playback-of-some-mp3s-with-builtin-player/ | 22:25 |
| keithzg | I definitely remember running into it before; last time I think I just retreated to my N9 and thought no further of it. | 22:25 |
| tadzik | interesting | 22:25 |
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| keithzg | Yeah, I wonder what the root cause is here. Both the Harmonton and WTF episodes appear to be 22050Hz mono tracks, which jives somewhat with the problematic ones reported on together. | 22:29 |
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| keithzg | What's the backend like for SailfishOS? | 22:34 |
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| Abjectio | newbee question - is it possible to encrypt content using sailfishos? (jolla phone). | 22:38 |
| keithzg | Abjectio: Short answer: Yes, definitely. Longer answer depends on what you want to encrypt! | 22:39 |
| keithzg | Hmm, looks like my vague recollections were correct, PulseAudio and GStreamer using ffmpeg. Time to try and find a gstreamer and/or ffmpeg bug report along these lines... | 22:40 |
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| special | keithzg: more particularly, audio playback is using gstreamer, gstreamer is using ffmpeg among other decoders (some hardware-based), and gstreamer output is going to pulseaudio | 22:41 |
| Abjectio | keithzg: user data , such as sms, mail, etc | 22:42 |
| Abjectio | keithzg: (my project is to understand what is the best secure phone OS to use these days, without sacrificing to much of functionality). | 22:43 |
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| keithzg | special: Yeah, I do (in vague, abstract terms, heh) understand how each of those components live in the general Linux stack. It's one of the reasons I love my Jolla, don't have to discard everything I know from desktop Linux! | 22:46 |
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| keithzg | Abjectio: All of that would definitely be possible in theory, especially since most security-focused programs from Linux can be made to work (I've used the commandline OpenVPN client on my Jolla, for example) but for the most part the default applications don't do so per se, at least from what I know. | 22:48 |
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| Abjectio | keithzg: ok - tx for feedback ... | 22:49 |
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| keithzg | special: So do you know if there are any hardware decoders in play for mp3s? Although the TJC thread mentions problems with OGGs too, and it seems pretty unlikely that hardware decoding is being used for ogg, unless the components industry has grown far more welcoming of ogg than last I checked! | 22:55 |
| javispedro | it may be the audio hardware itself, I read from the t.j.c post that those MP3 have weird sample rates | 22:58 |
| javispedro | though I'm not sure if pulseaudio will ever output data with a sample rate that's not 48k or 44.1k | 23:00 |
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| keithzg | Perhaps that's the issue, though, something going wrong in the resampling it's doing? | 23:01 |
| javispedro | yeah pulse will resample (http://arunraghavan.net/2011/10/alternate-sample-rates/) | 23:01 |
| javispedro | so it can't be the playing hw then.. :/ | 23:01 |
| javispedro | there are messages like this while playing the file | 23:05 |
| javispedro | [mp3 @ 0x41e84380] overread, skip -5 enddists: -3 -3 | 23:05 |
| javispedro | seems the mp3 decoder | 23:05 |
| javispedro | they match timing of audio skips | 23:06 |
| javispedro | besides the "warbly/echoey" sound like mp3 artifacts | 23:06 |
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| keithzg | Hmm. Where are you reading the messages from? I'm definitely getting it on the file after re-encoding to ogg. | 23:08 |
| javispedro | on a terminal, run the following | 23:08 |
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| javispedro | gst-launch-0.10 playbin uri=file:///path/to/yourfile.mp3 | 23:08 |
| javispedro | they don't happen on my desktop, and I'm using exactly the same decoder, so weird. | 23:09 |
| javispedro | keithzg: how do you reencode it? | 23:09 |
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| keithzg | javispedro: I was lazy and just opened it up in Audacity and exported. | 23:10 |
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| javispedro | I've decoded using mpg123 -w bill.wav bill-nye-and-the-creationist-guy.mp3 and will try | 23:12 |
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| javispedro | works OK when playing the .wav file | 23:13 |
| keithzg | Hmm, for me it definitely seems to take longer to start glitching, but definitely does so. And I don' | 23:14 |
| javispedro | how long? I'm ~2 minutes in | 23:14 |
| keithzg | t get anything in the terminal during the glitches, even with -v | 23:14 |
| javispedro | "talking snake", etc. | 23:14 |
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| keithzg | Ah, sorry I was using the Robin Williams WTF episode. I'll grab the Bill Nye one from TJC and test. | 23:14 |
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| keithzg | Okay, I see the glitching on the Bill Nye one in the original mp3 format, but running mpg123 on it to create a wav, gst refuses to play the wav (I must be doing something wrong here...) | 23:22 |
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| javispedro | hum | 23:22 |
| javispedro | do you use -w to create the .wav file on mpg123? | 23:23 |
| javispedro | not -o | 23:23 |
| javispedro | that happened to me :) | 23:23 |
| keithzg | Yup, used -w, just copy-pasted your line, heh. | 23:23 |
| javispedro | does "file /blabla/bill.wav" return something sensible like "WAVE audio"? | 23:24 |
| javispedro | "bill.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, mono 8000 Hz" here | 23:24 |
| keithzg | Yup yup: "bill.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, mono 8000 Hz" | 23:24 |
| javispedro | then no idea :/ | 23:24 |
| javispedro | funnily, mine says 16 bit audio | 23:25 |
| javispedro | what does gst complain about? | 23:25 |
| javispedro | though now we're probably talking about a bunch of bugs instead of a single one.. | 23:26 |
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| javispedro | if the billnye file gives out error messages the others don't... | 23:26 |
| keithzg | Yeahhhh.... | 23:27 |
| keithzg | I'm just going to convert it with avconv and see if it plays then. | 23:27 |
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| keithzg | Aha, yeah, "avconv -i bill-nye-and-the-creationist-guy.mp3 bill_ffmpeg.wav" got me a file that then runs. Weird; maybe something that mpg123 relies on is broken on *buntu 14.04 but not on whatever distro you're on? | 23:29 |
| keithzg | And after converting that way, I indeed don't get skipping. | 23:29 |
| javispedro | I'm on gentoo, mpg123 1.18.1 | 23:29 |
| keithzg | 0.3.2 for me, apparently. | 23:30 |
| javispedro | heh | 23:31 |
| keithzg | Specifically though mine claims to be mpg321 . . . methinks there may have been a fork somewhere ;) | 23:32 |
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| keithzg | Hmm, interesting, using "avconv -i bill-nye-and-the-creationist-guy.mp3 bill_ffmpeg.ogg" instead and I do indeed get skipping on the resulting ogg file....wait, which appears to be flac by default? Huh. | 23:35 |
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| merlin1991 | ogg is only a container, having flac as the audio codec isn't so crazy | 23:37 |
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| keithzg | Oh, I know, but having it as the *default* is a bit odd. | 23:41 |
| keithzg | I guess defaulting to lossless makes a certain sense, I just didn't expect it. | 23:41 |
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| keithzg | And then I had to remember the arcane way ffmpeg/avconv commandlines work, which made me sad :P | 23:42 |
| keithzg | Anyways, a short "avconv -i bill-nye-and-the-creationist-guy.mp3 -acodec libvorbis bill_ffmpeg.ogg" later and I had an ogg file using vorbis as the codec, and it exhibits the issue too. | 23:44 |
| keithzg | So it looks like nearly every codec *other* than WAVE has issues with resampling. | 23:45 |
| keithzg | Or at least, with non-44.1k sample rates. | 23:45 |
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