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| Londonn | hello! Whether support for icq protocol Jolla? Maybe third party application | 08:59 |
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| Nicd- | is ICQ still alive? o_O | 09:00 |
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| Londonn | Of course | 09:00 |
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| ln- | the disadvantage is that icq might not be monitored by nsa. | 09:02 |
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| Nicd- | ln-: but is probably monitored by FSB | 09:02 |
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| Londonn | I'm talking about the application their-party. As well whatsap and mitakulu. But icq | 09:06 |
| Nicd- | well no, I don't know of any ICQ client for Sailfish | 09:06 |
| Nicd- | maybe someone will port Adium some day | 09:06 |
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| Londonn | or pidgin) | 09:08 |
| Londonn | telepathy | 09:08 |
| Londonn | wil be nice | 09:09 |
| Londonn | ) | 09:09 |
| Londonn | And yet question. Will be the future management of access rights to applications? | 09:21 |
| Londonn | Jolla | 09:21 |
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| Aard | Londonn: by installing icq protocol providers for telepathy it should be possible to at least partially get icq support | 09:24 |
| Londonn | Aard: i am not a developer | 09:25 |
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| kimmoli | didn coderus made somekinf icq support somewhere? | 09:27 |
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| Londonn | i dont known | 09:30 |
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| coderus | grab this for icq: https://github.com/CODeRUS/haze-accounts-extensions | 10:23 |
| coderus | Aard: special: is there any ETA when i can publish this ^ to harbour? | 10:24 |
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| cxl000 | gexc, When I last investigated the compositor needs some changes to support Xwayland and a newer wayland version is also required | 10:30 |
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| AL13N_jolla | roaming seems to work well, and privider got me a 10eur deal for 1 week... 300mb | 10:38 |
| AL13N_jolla | :) | 10:38 |
| rZr | cxl000, great xwl on jolla ? i was curious why this isnt done yet ? | 10:43 |
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| Sail0r | oh noez :(, reboot issue started again -.- | 11:40 |
| Sail0r | now it crashes and shows the charging symbol even when no charger is connected | 11:40 |
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| tigeli | Sail0r: charging symbol in homescreen? | 11:46 |
| Sail0r | nope chargingsymbol as phone is off and charger is connected | 11:46 |
| Sail0r | mmcblk1: error -110 transferring data, sector 7744248, nr 8, cmd response 0x900, card status 0x80000b00 | 11:46 |
| tigeli | Sail0r: does it have percenstage on that screen? | 11:47 |
| Sail0r | nope | 11:47 |
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| tigeli | Sail0r: then it wants you to recharge the battery | 11:47 |
| Sail0r | so it thinks it's empty? | 11:47 |
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| tigeli | yes | 11:47 |
| Sail0r | but after boot battery is at 83% | 11:47 |
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| Sail0r | so it might be a faulty battery? | 11:49 |
| tigeli | Sail0r: strange.. you could try to reset the coulumb counter for taking out the battery for 10mins and then recharge it fully. Only time I've got the phone to act like that is when I've recharged it multiple short periods of time (like from 10->20%, and then again 10%-20%.. after I've taken out the battery and recharged it fully no reboots have occured) | 11:50 |
| tigeli | Sail0r: could be that too.. but try that battery+recharge first | 11:50 |
| tigeli | battery out.. | 11:50 |
| Sail0r | ok | 11:50 |
| Sail0r | thank you | 11:50 |
| Sail0r | after first crash it saif: kernel: [BAT]battery_warm = 1 | 11:54 |
| Sail0r | does that say something? | 11:54 |
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| tigeli | Sail0r: not for me.. my guess would be as good as yours, not an hw-engineer :) | 11:55 |
| tigeli | Sail0r: my guess would be that the battery was too warm ;) | 11:55 |
| Sail0r | hehe | 11:55 |
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| Sail0r | yeah, that's what I thought too but it does not feel warm ^^ | 11:56 |
| tigeli | well it could be false positive but better confirm that with some hw-people | 11:56 |
| tigeli | I could ask from them what does it mean | 11:56 |
| Sail0r | should I send the whole journalctl for the crashes to care? | 11:57 |
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| tigeli | Sail0r: grep -i smpl /var/log/systemboot.log does that show anything? | 12:00 |
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| Sail0r | nope | 12:02 |
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| tigeli | Sail0r: that log should show what requested reboot etc.. | 12:04 |
| tigeli | Sail0r: eg. 20140718_134558 Shutdown: User Power Key | 12:04 |
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| Sail0r | http://fpaste.org/119230/14057715/ | 12:06 |
| Sail0r | the only lines for today | 12:06 |
| tigeli | strange | 12:06 |
| Sail0r | yep | 12:06 |
| Sail0r | journalctl also just stops | 12:07 |
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| tigeli | anyway, try taking out the battery for 10mins and reccharge the battery fully after it | 12:07 |
| Sail0r | ok without powering on while charging? | 12:08 |
| tigeli | Sail0r: you can power it | 12:08 |
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| Sail0r | ok | 12:08 |
| Londonn | How many native application for sailfish os in jolla store? (>100, > 1000 , > 10000) | 12:08 |
| tigeli | Sail0r: I got my battery confused about it state with those 10->20% charges with car charger while doing handling some errands in the city (actually twice) and reboot stopped after I did that | 12:09 |
| tigeli | but it's really hard for guessing why something happens | 12:10 |
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| Sail0r | ok, I started the short charging last week because I plugged it often to my laptop for developer mode | 12:11 |
| Sail0r | maybe that's the issue | 12:11 |
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| Nightmare__ | Londonn: i guess ~500 | 12:17 |
| Sail0r | ok 10mins gone plugged in battery | 12:18 |
| Sail0r | plugged in charger | 12:18 |
| Sail0r | cross fingers ;) | 12:18 |
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| Hartzi | Londonn Nightmare__ 242 in Jolla Store if I counted correctly. lets say +/-5. | 12:21 |
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| Hartzi | including android apps | 12:22 |
| Nightmare__ | Hartzi: was too lazy and just guessed the pages i had to scroll :D | 12:22 |
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| Hartzi | :D | 12:23 |
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| Sail0r | android apps don't count ;) | 12:24 |
| Nightmare__ | ~1/3 android apps | 12:24 |
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| Londonn | thank you | 12:25 |
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| gexc | hmm... no more side-swipe in the lock screen? | 14:58 |
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| Sail0r | gexc: yep | 15:29 |
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| rkz | is there a silica component for the alphabetic style picker in the people app? | 15:37 |
| rkz | or have any idea how its built? | 15:37 |
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| rkz | seems to be a lot a deprecated stuff still on the phone, so its hard to know which qml file to be looking in | 15:48 |
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| narchie | uh | 16:28 |
| narchie | so after my phone came back from optima | 16:28 |
| narchie | a grand total of 1 days until it started rebooting again | 16:28 |
| narchie | it's even worse this time - this is the second time I've had to reset my pin code just today | 16:28 |
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| tigeli | narchie: you might want to report back to care that what ever they did in the optima it did not help with the issue | 16:37 |
| narchie | I will | 16:40 |
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| pdanek | Why all the dual-SIM phones are low-ends? | 17:55 |
| pdanek | Why don't we see flagship dual-SIM devices? | 17:55 |
| wmarone | because the number of people who need dual sim support is relatively small | 17:58 |
| Sail0r | I prefer to have two phone | 18:02 |
| Sail0r | s | 18:02 |
| ninnnu | Also, dual-sims don't really work with the American phone lock-in culture (instead of buying the phone separately, it's just part of the subscription-contract). | 18:02 |
| Sail0r | because I can shut the work phone off and let it stay at home ;) | 18:02 |
| ninnnu | And usually vendors want the flagship sell well in the USA | 18:02 |
| Eztran | Anecdotally, many complaints I've seen of lack of dual-SIM are from developing countries - seems to be more common in some to use home/work SIMs etc. | 18:03 |
| ninnnu | Eztran: More like "cheaper to call from this SIM to that friend" | 18:03 |
| Eztran | Sure. | 18:03 |
| Eztran | Certainly here, I know almost nobody who has more than one SIM, and those that do tend to have an entry-level phone for the other SIM. | 18:04 |
| Eztran | and often the main device is a contracted flagship. | 18:06 |
| Sail0r | most people I know get a sim from work together with a second phone | 18:06 |
| pdanek | Sure, but you can put the 2nd phone away. | 18:07 |
| pdanek | And just use 1 device. | 18:07 |
| Eztran | Possibly the huge split between hefty contracts and PAYG? | 18:07 |
| Sail0r | nope because I want a strictly division between work and personal things | 18:07 |
| Sail0r | I don't want to get or see work mails while I am at holiday | 18:08 |
| Eztran | Rather reduces the point in another SIM slot when the phone is provider-locked. | 18:08 |
| Eztran | and flagships often being the devices which most get the 'pay by contract' treatment... | 18:09 |
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| Sail0r | I only had one phone with pay by contract | 18:10 |
| Sail0r | because most times you pay more then buying it yourself in germany | 18:10 |
| Eztran | Same here. It was also the only one I found which appeared to cost less overall (actually the total cost was very similar). | 18:10 |
| Sail0r | and i never wanted the phones which where offered with the contract ;) | 18:10 |
| Eztran | Mmm, well, not just wanting the latest flagship is probably not that rare on this channel :) | 18:11 |
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| rkz | i thought dual sim was more an india/china type feature | 18:15 |
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| Anz_ | kimmoli: 'stick and stone version' 😃 liked it. #just-saying | 20:14 |
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