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| inte | damed | 00:00 |
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| inte | i accidentaly erased .config in $home | 00:00 |
| inte | is there anything important in there? | 00:00 |
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| fennekki | well | 00:02 |
| fennekki | Wait, this was #jollamobile, nevermind | 00:03 |
| fennekki | I'll go check, actually | 00:03 |
| inte | I erased it on my Jolla :( | 00:03 |
| inte | ok | 00:03 |
| fennekki | There seem to be settings here, at least | 00:03 |
| inte | after reboot, all my folders are gone :( | 00:04 |
| fennekki | as expected | 00:04 |
| inte | first thing i just noticed | 00:04 |
| inte | grmpf took me ages to sort them | 00:04 |
| inte | is that all or do I have to expect some more settings lost? | 00:05 |
| fennekki | app order is lost at least | 00:05 |
| raa70 | i would go trough settings | 00:05 |
| fennekki | that's why the folder are gone | 00:05 |
| inte | can you guess what its beeing lost? | 00:05 |
| fennekki | At least the following apps seem to store stuff here | 00:05 |
| fennekki | Hungermeter, Friends, Meecast, Sailbox | 00:05 |
| raa70 | ambienced.conf connectionagent.conf | 00:06 |
| inte | oh wow | 00:06 |
| fennekki | Some connnection settings might be gone | 00:06 |
| inte | thanks | 00:06 |
| inte | sounds like some work | 00:06 |
| fennekki | your phone call times are lost | 00:06 |
| fennekki | like | 00:06 |
| inte | probably most of the apps store their config there | 00:06 |
| fennekki | like the amount you've spoken | 00:06 |
| inte | ok thats a minor problem at least :) | 00:07 |
| neosisani | is that a folder or a file? | 00:07 |
| fennekki | Mitäkuuluu settings might be gone too, though they disappear all the time anyway | 00:07 |
| fennekki | and if any apps have installed systemd services per-user those are gone | 00:08 |
| fennekki | your account database might be gone | 00:08 |
| inte | mh | 00:08 |
| inte | mmh | 00:08 |
| inte | if id run a restore from the regular backup it might help | 00:09 |
| fennekki | probably | 00:09 |
| inte | i had a look in .vault but didnt find .config in there | 00:09 |
| inte | ill try | 00:09 |
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| MoritzJT | Good luck | 00:12 |
| inte | thanks :) | 00:12 |
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| MoritzJT | Deletion of critical structures should come with a warning flag incorporated in the file system imo | 00:19 |
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| MoritzJT | msg NickServ identify hunter2 | 00:24 |
| fennekki | well | 00:24 |
| fennekki | that went well, apparently | 00:24 |
| MoritzJT | horribly failed | 00:25 |
| Cal-Drone | :) | 00:25 |
| MoritzJT | well -.- | 00:25 |
| MoritzJT | Hate VKBs | 00:25 |
| fennekki | I just have an alias for that | 00:25 |
| fennekki | so if I ever happen to say "identify" here that's what I'm doing | 00:25 |
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| MoritzJT | nice, but I'm stuck with irc on sailfish | 00:31 |
| fennekki | irc on sailfish | 00:32 |
| fennekki | ? | 00:32 |
| fennekki | I just use irssi | 00:32 |
| fennekki | I mean, I have it on a remote shell | 00:32 |
| fennekki | but still | 00:33 |
| fennekki | I think there's irssi binaries for Jolla? | 00:33 |
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| inte | lol | 00:41 |
| MoritzJT | Will investigate :-) | 00:41 |
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| inte | MoritzJT: I think if you configure your irc client to use your nickname and passwd as sasl login you neednt do a manual nickname change anymore | 00:42 |
| inte | i had that working once (with konversion) | 00:42 |
| MoritzJT | I did. This happens after losing the connection and my nick is locked | 00:43 |
| inte | havent tried with sailfish irc yet but i dont see why it wouldnt work | 00:43 |
| MoritzJT | it does | 00:43 |
| inte | ah | 00:43 |
| MoritzJT | but once a connection is lost, bam | 00:43 |
| inte | ok | 00:43 |
| inte | i have an irc proxy installed on my fritzbox | 00:43 |
| inte | helps a lot :) | 00:43 |
| inte | apart from that it doesnt support sasl but thats another story | 00:44 |
| inte | it executes the nickname command for me | 00:44 |
| MoritzJT | should do that on my router too | 00:44 |
| MoritzJT | tplink soon to sport openwrt | 00:44 |
| MoritzJT | then owncloud | 00:44 |
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| MoritzJT | take care sailors | 00:45 |
| MoritzJT | gn8 | 00:45 |
| inte | gn8! | 00:45 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | good morning guys | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 08:10 |
| dr_gogeta86 | finished to frack up with dual baseband phones ? | 08:10 |
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| Stskeeps | referring to nokia xl, or? | 08:10 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i say in general | 08:11 |
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| Stskeeps | haven't really had the need so far.. i do have a dual sim nokia xl here though | 08:11 |
| dr_gogeta86 | near me I got a mer-hybris phone with a qcom with dual baseband | 08:11 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | if you wanna destroy also this ... | 08:11 |
| dr_gogeta86 | for now I'm happy with jolla launcher | 08:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but native rocks :-D | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 08:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | altough this got the same resolution of J-phone | 08:12 |
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| * tbr has a Nokia-X and isn't particularly impressed by its UI performance | 08:19 | |
| Stskeeps | i'm kind of tempted to sailfish it | 08:20 |
| * tbr too | 08:20 | |
| tbr | let me know if you need help. I might be persuaded | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | i have a nokia xl but i suppose they're not that different | 08:21 |
| tbr | same difference, yours might have more RAM | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 08:21 |
| tbr | to keep me otherwise busy I just "ordered" a free gallileo via MSFT | 08:22 |
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| tbr | I'm equal opportunity and want to give their IoT offering a go, for a couple of days, before I give in and install Linux | 08:23 |
| tbr | http://windowsondevices.com/ if anyone else wants one | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | hrrmm | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | how did you get a free galileo | 08:24 |
| tbr | you sing up, get an email and give them your shipping address | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | oh | 08:25 |
| tbr | supposedly in the near future a galileo will arrive on my doorstep... | 08:25 |
| Nicd- | they failed their checkbox labels. the text is clickable but does nothing :P | 08:25 |
| tbr | I'm genuinely curious to see what MSFT defines as IoT | 08:25 |
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| tbr | especially after their definition of IoT also fits to netbooks (the smaller ones <9" lcd) | 08:26 |
| * Stskeeps signs up.. :P | 08:29 | |
| pp | hehe | 08:29 |
| meklu | wat | 08:30 |
| meklu | windows on SoC? | 08:30 |
| meklu | what is this nonsense | 08:30 |
| tbr | meklu: a) it's intel b) wince and all that (nowadays RT) | 08:31 |
| Nicd- | next someone's going to suggest Windows on a phone | 08:31 |
| tbr | although this can't be RT as RT seems to be ARM only | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: planning on using it for your internet of toilets project? | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:31 |
| meklu | but... still | 08:31 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: befitting, wouldn't it be? | 08:31 |
| tadzik | that sounds awesome | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: there's some perverted justice in putting windows in the toilet.. | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 08:32 |
| Anarky | tbr, Stskeeps: you received the email instantly? | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | Anarky: pretty much | 08:33 |
| tbr | Anarky: yes | 08:33 |
| Anarky | I applied yesterday but still nothing :/ | 08:33 |
| Anarky | (I'm not in the US though) | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | neither, poland | 08:33 |
| Anarky | well that's strange | 08:33 |
| meklu | "Use Azure data services" | 08:34 |
| tbr | .fi here | 08:34 |
| meklu | so, a board to interface with Linux VMs on Azure | 08:34 |
| tbr | Anarky: try a different email address? | 08:34 |
| pp | I signed up too :D | 08:35 |
| pp | might play for it for a few days and then do something useful with the board like install linux on it | 08:35 |
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| Anarky | tbr: ok, so hotmail.com doesn't work but gmail.com works :) | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | i think they know that if you are using hotmail, they're not the kind of people they're looking for.. | 08:39 |
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| Anarky | but it's from Microsoft too ^^ | 08:40 |
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| meklu | "You can recover from Microsoft and its suppliers only direct damages up to U.S. $5.00." | 08:42 |
| meklu | Priceless. | 08:42 |
| meklu | Five bucks and a board? Great. | 08:42 |
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| tbr | Anarky: actually I know someone with an hotmail address who got one | 08:43 |
| FireFly | No, not priceless. About $5 actually | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | news sometimes.. it's like 25-30 C outside ; and the only news to report from traffic is that one tram has air condition on full speed and some passengers are cold.. | 08:43 |
| * tbr wonders if he'll have to pay import duties on the board or if they will ship from within europe | 08:43 | |
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| meklu | If you haven't paid for it, do you even need to pay for that? | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | there's usually a stated value | 08:44 |
| tbr | even gifts may qualify | 08:44 |
| meklu | ah, right | 08:44 |
| tbr | but IANAL, YMMV | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | as long as i don't have to deal with DHL's import systems.. | 08:44 |
| pp | they probably ship from a tax haven :D | 08:44 |
| tbr | when MSFT sent me my free NokiaX they actually sent it via DHL, but on INCOTERMs DDP. That was _very_ nice. | 08:45 |
| meklu | as long as they use actual mail rather than UPS/FedEx/what-have-you | 08:45 |
| tbr | DHL called me and went out of their way to arrange things and mentioned twice that I don't have to pay anything. | 08:45 |
| meklu | oh | 08:46 |
| meklu | sounds pretty good | 08:46 |
| tbr | well that's DDP for you | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | incoterms is one of those things i've found valuable to know about.. | 08:46 |
| * tbr high-fives Stskeeps, same here | 08:47 | |
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| FireFly | Stskeeps: the heck.. I'd be happy if it was "too cold" on the tram | 08:52 |
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| msava | Hello! This might be redundant but I figured I should ask anyway. Is jolla (Saapunki) cryptsetup ready? | 09:45 |
| tbr | what is "cryptsetup ready"? | 09:46 |
| msava | Has anyone tried to encrypt the sdcard so far? I'm looking for some feedback | 09:46 |
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| msava | is cryptsetup ready for general use or does it require further development | 09:47 |
| special | msava: one way to find out? ;) | 09:47 |
| tbr | hardware runs software, film at 11 | 09:47 |
| special | I can't imagine there are problems with cryptsetup on data cards | 09:48 |
| special | obviously cryptsetup for the OS won't work at this point | 09:48 |
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| tbr | "pkcon search name crypt" returns "Available cryptsetup-luks-1.1.3-1.1.2.armv7hl A utility for setting up encrypted filesystems | 09:48 |
| msava | I'm only considering encrypting the sdcard | 09:48 |
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| tbr | obviously you'll have to do the decrypting and mounting manually | 09:49 |
| msava | indeed | 09:49 |
| special | I wonder if systemd's encrypted disk stuff is working | 09:49 |
| special | at least on desktops, it handles the devices and cryptsetup for drives in /etc/crypttab, and offers a nice API for writing credentials UIs. | 09:50 |
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| Stskeeps | tbr: my main pondering if to go for a 4.4 base where many things aren't guaranteed to work; or something closer to jolla device stack (the existing system) | 10:22 |
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| ln- | is it expected behavior that the volume buttons have no effect on the volume of a game? | 10:36 |
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| tbr | Stskeeps: well, I don't know your strategy, but I guess it will depend if you want to broaden 4.2 based device porting or enable more 4.4 porting. Valid arguments can be made for both. | 10:44 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: personally I wouldn't mind to put HADK to more testing and that's 4.2, isn't it? | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | 4.1.2.. | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | as in | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | the nokia x is 4.1.2 based | 10:47 |
| tbr | well, sounds like a good "will this also work with HADK" exercise then | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | which is close to being equal to the plague when it comes to stuff like cyanogenmod .. :P | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | but | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | should work, we have the patches we did on jolla | 10:48 |
| tbr | if you are aiming for hobbyist adoption, then 4.1 and 4.2 make more sense. Cheap targets and all that. | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | cm10 = 4.2 at least | 10:49 |
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| * lainwir3d also signed up for getting a free gallileo | 10:57 | |
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| dr_gogeta86 | any sailor | 11:17 |
| dr_gogeta86 | battery stress test fail | 11:17 |
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| phdeswer | dr_gogeta86: you mean internal resistance fail? | 11:18 |
| dr_gogeta86 | now i'm doing discharging test | 11:18 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i'm using internal test tools | 11:18 |
| dr_gogeta86 | csd | 11:19 |
| phdeswer | can't remember those tests. | 11:19 |
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| phdeswer | dr_gogeta86: I don't have a stress test in csd. resistance and discharging tests yes | 11:23 |
| dr_gogeta86 | resistance is a stress test | 11:23 |
| dr_gogeta86 | dims you phone lcd | 11:23 |
| phdeswer | It is not a stress test at all. Display only dims due to screen timeout. | 11:24 |
| phdeswer | Anyway if that fails usually cleaning up your battery contacts fixes it | 11:24 |
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| narchie | anyone have an extra jolla for me when my phone goes into repair | 11:27 |
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| narchie | ask a man whose jolla just crashed for the 8th time today | 11:42 |
| narchie | anything | 11:43 |
| meklu | Why do you hate freedom, you communist? | 11:43 |
| meklu | /s | 11:44 |
| Acce | why do you hate communism, you freedomnist? | 11:44 |
| Stskeeps | .. well that went south quickly | 11:45 |
| * tbr-fi went north instead | 11:46 | |
| meklu | and here I thought communism was a thing of the north | 11:46 |
| * inte just learned about sshfs and finds it really cool to connect and sync the files on his jolla | 11:46 | |
| Aciid | inte: great way to lose a lot of data | 11:46 |
| Aciid | just like raid 0 xD | 11:47 |
| inte | Aciid: why? | 11:47 |
| meklu | rsync is great | 11:47 |
| * narchie puts jolla into raid0 | 11:47 | |
| tbr-fi | <3 rsync over ssh | 11:47 |
| meklu | I wouldn't trust an actual filesystem wrapper... | 11:47 |
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| inte | you could use rsync through sshfs | 11:47 |
| Aciid | what meklu said | 11:47 |
| meklu | "hey, here's a connection that is a filesystem!" | 11:47 |
| inte | meklu: its sftp eventually | 11:47 |
| Aciid | sshfs doesn't conclude checks | 11:47 |
| meklu | "What could POSSIBLY GO WRONG?!" | 11:47 |
| mornfall | did anyone else just get a bogus "use your preorder voucher" mail from jolla? | 11:47 |
| Aciid | it just transfers shit and goes like "done that next" | 11:48 |
| MoritzJT | Maybe | 11:48 |
| Aciid | "maybe" | 11:48 |
| Aciid | :D | 11:48 |
| narchie | use mongodb | 11:48 |
| meklu | it's web-scale | 11:48 |
| meklu | and has map reduce | 11:48 |
| Aciid | mongodb is not webscale anymore, we need to use mysql entterpirses | 11:49 |
| meklu | map reduce is the secret sauce that webscales your rubynode stack | 11:49 |
| pdanek | Is Qt doing better under Digia than Nokia? | 11:49 |
| meklu | WebsqaleSQL is a thing | 11:49 |
| Aciid | I put ruby into my nodejs to make it webscale | 11:49 |
| Aciid | pdanek: it has become a business more sorta with Digia | 11:49 |
| narchie | how mapreduce helped our J2EE to reach webscale | 11:49 |
| pdanek | that's good | 11:50 |
| inte | whats the point if I still rund a diff afterwards | 11:50 |
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| Aciid | narchie: I think you need to insert some JBOSS servers with IBM scalar, hadooping your way into postgresish rabbitmq | 11:54 |
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| mornfall | I'm at a loss here. | 11:55 |
| narchie | thanks Aciid | 11:55 |
| Aciid | anytime friend | 11:55 |
| mornfall | anyone know what is this "pre-order voucher"? | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | mornfall: i'm presuming they mean the thing that some people booked a 100 eur or something origianlly | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | for the preorders | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | i don't know the details, i used 0 EUR myself | 11:56 |
| mornfall | Stskeeps: right, but I already have the phone | 11:56 |
| Nicd- | did you use the voucher when you bought it? | 11:56 |
| mornfall | Nicd-: I thought I did. :D | 11:56 |
| mornfall | I do have a "first one" cover for one... | 11:56 |
| Nicd- | mornfall: how much did you pay for it when you bought it? :P | 11:57 |
| mornfall | I'll have to find out. :P | 11:57 |
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| mornfall | €314 | 11:59 |
| mornfall | but the voucher code seems to actually work in shop.jolla.com | 12:00 |
| mornfall | sounds like a bug? | 12:00 |
| mornfall | I certainly don't remember making 2 preorders... | 12:00 |
| Bysmyyr | mornfall: check you account for that preorder? | 12:00 |
| Nicd- | maybe they forgot to mark your voucher used | 12:00 |
| Nicd- | and are now emailing people who didn't use them | 12:01 |
| meklu | awwyiss, my lastucase has shipped | 12:01 |
| meklu | or rather, has entered shipping and will probably be here within a couple of days | 12:02 |
| mornfall | Bysmyyr: there aren't any | 12:02 |
| mornfall | Bysmyyr: it only has the actual order | 12:02 |
| Bysmyyr | mornfall: I mean bank account or credit card... | 12:02 |
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| mornfall | Nicd-: how could they forget to do that? :-) I'd sort of expect the software to do it... | 12:02 |
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| Stskeeps | all sw has bugs | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:03 |
| mornfall | well, I'm sort of tempted to actually use it | 12:03 |
| mornfall | grand total €264 | 12:03 |
| mornfall | the mail says they'll send me another first one cover if I don't use the voucher :P | 12:04 |
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| mornfall | maybe my wife wants a jolla too... | 12:07 |
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| mornfall | I actually already complained about this to care@ in December when I got a similar mail... | 12:10 |
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| meklu | they want you to be a good customer and buy more product | 12:14 |
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| CosmicDuck | Hi, can I change my ringtone and how can I use a different one e.g. ogg or mp3 one? | 12:26 |
| Bysmyyr | CosmicDuck: yes, if you do not use TOH ambiances | 12:26 |
| CosmicDuck | sorry, found the setting ;-) | 12:26 |
| Bysmyyr | and what I just said is changed | 12:27 |
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| CosmicDuck | hmm, can I changed my background pictures? | 12:49 |
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| rkz | does the jolla support the i2c-dev linux kernel module? | 12:50 |
| inte | CosmicDuck: Ambience? | 12:50 |
| Bysmyyr | CosmicDuck: you have to create new ambiance | 12:50 |
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| coderus | rkz: ask kimmoli | 13:27 |
| rkz | yeah i saw kimmoli made a i2c sailfish app | 13:27 |
| rkz | but provided that the jolla has i2c-dev module, then i see no reason why the i2c-tools command line shouldnt work like it does on things like the raspberry pi | 13:28 |
| coderus | CosmicDuck: in gallery you choose picture and use pull down menu and selet create ambiance. and when yuo on lockscreen you can swipe it to left or right to open ambience menu and you can fast change between ambiences. Also in gallery you can set ambiencces you want to see in that page. | 13:29 |
| kimmoli | rkz: you mean this? http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/I2CTools | 13:30 |
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| rkz | yeah thats the one | 13:30 |
| rkz | modprobe doesnt seem to bring anything up for i2c-dev though | 13:32 |
| kimmoli | at least it built on phone | 13:32 |
| rkz | yeah i was about to give it a crack myself | 13:35 |
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| kimmoli | seems to work, i2cget 1 80 0 b did return 0x4b which is the first byte in my eeprom | 13:36 |
| rkz | awesome, i was hoping it would | 13:36 |
| kimmoli | but, meh, those tools are ... | 13:37 |
| kimmoli | but they work :) | 13:38 |
| kimmoli | i usually find it easier to write my own hw-interfacing stuff than trying to understand what someone else has coded | 13:42 |
| rkz | yeah fai enough, thanks for helping anyway | 13:47 |
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| tadzik | hm, Jolla can't connect to an ad-hoc wifi? | 13:56 |
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| tadzik | and it randomly can't find any wifi around, wtf | 13:57 |
| coderus | tadzik: like android :) | 13:58 |
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| tadzik | heh, I didn't buy a Jolla to have an android-like experience :P | 13:59 |
| tadzik | I wonder if I can convince it connect with iwconfig magic | 13:59 |
| tadzik | eh, scanning doesn't even show it | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | no ad-hoc support | 14:00 |
| tadzik | does connecting it through the usb cable require some special wizardry? | 14:01 |
| Nicd- | what OS? | 14:01 |
| tadzik | some ubuntu | 14:02 |
| Nicd- | was plug and play on mine | 14:03 |
| lainwir3d | depends on what you mean by "connecting through" | 14:03 |
| Nicd- | the phone even has a dhcp server now so you'll get an ip for your computer | 14:03 |
| lainwir3d | if you mean usb network tethering then yeah, it needs some magi c | 14:03 |
| tadzik | oh, I mean the other way aroung | 14:04 |
| tadzik | probably need to set routing on one end and ip forwarding on the other | 14:04 |
| lainwir3d | yeah | 14:04 |
| lainwir3d | and maskerading | 14:05 |
| lainwir3d | masquerading* | 14:05 |
| tadzik | what's the password for devel-su? | 14:05 |
| tadzik | oh, the one I set for ssh worked | 14:06 |
| lainwir3d | the one you set when you enable developer mode | 14:06 |
| tadzik | yay, that worked | 14:09 |
| tadzik | sort of. I can ping 8.8.8.8, but not jolla.com, even if I set dnses in resolv.conf | 14:12 |
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| MoritzJT | Stskeeps: Ad-Hoc impossible or just no gui? Will it come? | 14:14 |
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| Stskeeps | connman people hate adhoc | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | also | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | we have wifi ap | 14:14 |
| tadzik | what is this dns sorcery :o | 14:15 |
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| Nicd- | tadzik: maybe you need to restart something network related for it to take effect | 14:16 |
| dr_gogeta86 | https://01.org/connman/blogs/pflykt/2014/connman-1.24 | 14:17 |
| dr_gogeta86 | smells like jolla contribution :-D | 14:17 |
| tbr | ad-hoc wifi is "special" anyway and there are no good usecases for it nowadays, in the way it was designed. IMHO | 14:17 |
| tbr | dr_gogeta86: well at least the last name should be immediately obvious... | 14:18 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ahhahahah | 14:18 |
| tbr | also Jolla is explicitly credited | 14:18 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | but till now ... connman got problems | 14:19 |
| dr_gogeta86 | :-( | 14:19 |
| dr_gogeta86 | is slow | 14:19 |
| tadzik | Nicd-: maybe. I've no idea what it is though :/ | 14:20 |
| tadzik | oh. google.com works, jolla.com doesn't | 14:20 |
| tadzik | google dns being stupid? :/ | 14:20 |
| tadzik | no, jolla.com doesn't work even on opendns | 14:22 |
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| tadzik | whatever, I'll just wait until I'm in wifi range | 14:23 |
| Nicd- | "nslookup jolla.com 8.8.8.8" works just fine for me | 14:23 |
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| ggabriel | ? | 14:25 |
| ggabriel | jolla.com works | 14:25 |
| ggabriel | also, use 4.2.2.2 :P | 14:25 |
| tadzik | doesn't work on my device though | 14:25 |
| ggabriel | network problem? | 14:26 |
| tadzik | no, google.com and other sites work | 14:26 |
| tadzik | w/e | 14:26 |
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| ggabriel | that doesn't mean it isn't a network problem | 14:26 |
| ggabriel | maybe the route to jolla is down or something | 14:26 |
| ggabriel | fwiw, it works for me | 14:27 |
| Nicd- | ggabriel: you shouldn't use 4.2.2.2 if you're not a Level 3 customer | 14:27 |
| ggabriel | Nicd-: why? :P | 14:27 |
| ggabriel | tadzik: this is the IP I get for jolla.com: 54.194.33.146 | 14:27 |
| Nicd- | ggabriel: http://briandagan.com/warning-dont-use-4222-for-public-dns-use-8888 | 14:28 |
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| ggabriel | Nicd-: i haven't found that in practice | 14:29 |
| ggabriel | also, 8.8.8.8 == google | 14:29 |
| ggabriel | (so is 8.8.4.4) | 14:29 |
| * ggabriel doesn't like google | 14:29 | |
| Nicd- | as if another US company was any better | 14:30 |
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| ggabriel | no, but i don't have another alternative for secondary | 14:30 |
| entil | probably doesn't even matter where the company operates as long as they have operations or hosting or anything in the US | 14:30 |
| ggabriel | and 4.2.2.2 works pretty well, even updating faster than google's sometimes | 14:30 |
| ggabriel | happy to memorise an easy EU one | 14:30 |
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| inte | how can I get rid of my .vault folder? | 14:40 |
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| giucam | why do you want to delete it? | 14:41 |
| inte | because its almost 2gig and im running out of space | 14:41 |
| giucam | well, if you delete the snapshots you don't need anymore it should free up some space | 14:42 |
| inte | how do i do that? | 14:42 |
| giucam | from the backup page | 14:42 |
| giucam | in settings | 14:43 |
| inte | ok then | 14:43 |
| inte | I will just copy my most recent backups to sd | 14:44 |
| inte | and then | 14:44 |
| inte | delete them on the phone | 14:44 |
| inte | im curious how much space that will free | 14:44 |
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| inte | sorry in advance for flooding, but this is my root fs | 14:48 |
| ggabriel | pastebin? | 14:49 |
| inte | 1,2G /usr | 14:49 |
| inte | 3,5G /home | 14:49 |
| inte | 3,8G /data | 14:49 |
| inte | 4,0M /sbin | 14:49 |
| inte | 4,5M /media | 14:49 |
| inte | 5,7M /bin | 14:49 |
| inte | 11M /run | 14:49 |
| inte | 12M /etc | 14:49 |
| inte | 23M /lib | 14:49 |
| inte | 26M /root | 14:49 |
| inte | 45M /firmware | 14:49 |
| inte | 66M /var | 14:49 |
| inte | 71M /boot | 14:49 |
| inte | 108M /system | 14:49 |
| inte | 386M /opt | 14:49 |
| inte | oh | 14:49 |
| inte | yeah | 14:49 |
| inte | too late :) | 14:49 |
| inte | where should I start freeing? | 14:49 |
| deztructor | inte: giucam deleting snapshots will not free space. inte: you can copy backup storage to sd from backup page and after it you can execute "rm /home/nemo/.vault -rf" on your phone (be careful to delete exactly this folder) | 14:50 |
| inte | there actually is not too much data in /home as the backups alone make 1,7gig already | 14:50 |
| inte | deztructor: i will thanks | 14:50 |
| inte | but is there anything else i could delete? | 14:50 |
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| inte | or | 14:51 |
| inte | is there anything in my rootdir of unusual (big) size? | 14:51 |
| tbr | Sailfish community meeting in 10min in #mer-meeting! | 14:51 |
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| Nicd- | inte: it's still not doing the rebalance? | 14:52 |
| inte | Nicd-: it did but Im not really happy with that | 14:53 |
| inte | Total devices 1 FS bytes used 9.65GB | 14:53 |
| inte | devid 1 size 13.75GB used 13.25GB path /dev/mmcblk0p28 | 14:53 |
| inte | fs will be full again shortly I dare | 14:53 |
| Nicd- | I wouldn't delete anything outside /home at least | 14:54 |
| Nicd- | one option is to just reset the phone | 14:54 |
| deztructor | inte: I recommend you to install "Space inspector" from the Jolla store | 14:54 |
| inte | deztructor: thats how I found .vault at all | 14:55 |
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| tbr | meeting has started | 15:03 |
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| inte | backup to sdcard wouldn't work | 15:38 |
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| inte | its ext4 | 15:38 |
| inte | should it be fat32? | 15:38 |
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| stephg | inte: don't think the FS matters as long as it's understood, I expect it's permissions | 15:39 |
| inte | how would i change those? | 15:39 |
| Bysmyyr | inte: is it mounted to same place as automount do or is it fixed? | 15:39 |
| inte | automount | 15:39 |
| Bysmyyr | ok | 15:39 |
| inte | dev/mmcblk1 15G 166M 14G 2% /media/sdcard/56cdbc9f-9fcf-465b-ada5-3c84a9a8490e | 15:40 |
| inte | dev/mmcblk1 on /media/sdcard/56cdbc9f-9fcf-465b-ada5-3c84a9a8490e type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,noatime,dirsync,data=ordered) | 15:40 |
| inte | [n | 15:40 |
| inte | oh | 15:41 |
| inte | permissions? | 15:41 |
| stephg | just out of interest, does it work if you chown nemo:nemo /media/sdcard/56cdbc9f-9fcf-465b-ada5-3c84a9a8490e | 15:41 |
| inte | i couldnt even touch /media/sdcard/blablaba/newfile | 15:42 |
| inte | permission denied | 15:42 |
| inte | as nemo | 15:42 |
| inte | root can do that | 15:42 |
| inte | so my permissions are obviously broken | 15:42 |
| stephg | sorry that's what I mean | 15:42 |
| stephg | either as root or with devel-su -c infront of it | 15:42 |
| stephg | that's what the ownership is on mine but I don't remember if I set that or if the jolla did | 15:43 |
| inte | now its working, thanks | 15:43 |
| inte | hope it will be persistent after reboot | 15:43 |
| stephg | it will be | 15:44 |
| inte | strange its broken by default | 15:44 |
| stephg | well if you created it it will be root owned by default | 15:45 |
| inte | anyway i have to say that i had to reformat the sdcard as root before i could use it as the partition table was broken | 15:45 |
| inte | however, the only way i could do that was to do that as root | 15:45 |
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| inte | i should probably have manually unmount the sdcard hand should have deleted the /sdcard/56xxx subdir | 15:46 |
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| inte | probably the Jolla would have created it again after reboot with correct ownerships | 15:46 |
| inte | anyways | 15:47 |
| inte | i'm happy now | 15:47 |
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| inte | so the backup.tar which is currently created contains all my former backups? | 15:47 |
| stephg | pass | 15:48 |
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| inte | stephg: it does | 16:00 |
| inte | just doublechecked | 16:00 |
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| inte | I'm now with | 16:12 |
| inte | Total devices 1 FS bytes used 8.06GB | 16:12 |
| inte | devid 1 size 13.75GB used 11.77GB path /dev/mmcblk0p28 | 16:12 |
| inte | i guess that should work for the beginning | 16:12 |
| inte | ?? | 16:13 |
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| Scelt | update? | 17:50 |
| kimmoli | F5 ? | 17:51 |
| Scelt | maybe I should.check.with tcpdump where the updte checker connects and then make a perl script.to.poll it every 3 seconds | 17:52 |
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| CosmicDuck | is there allready an odb2 tool available? | 18:01 |
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| inte | CosmicDuck: i would want that as well!! | 18:11 |
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| inte | authentication failed (is ssu set up correctly?) | 18:56 |
| inte | what does that mean again? | 18:56 |
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| special | inte: what is it from? | 18:59 |
| inte | warehouse | 19:00 |
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| iSanttu | Hello how i can get kik messenger work for jolla? | 19:02 |
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| coderus | inte: did you touched SSU button in developer mode settings? | 19:17 |
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| Nicd- | seems messageserver5 has taken all of my memory again :/ | 19:31 |
| fennekki | Nicd-: for me that seems to happen when some other program starts consuming memory | 19:31 |
| Nicd- | memory and swap are completely full, apps are getting killed constantly | 19:31 |
| fennekki | killing messageserver5 seems to make it reboot with negligible side effects (ie. I've never noticed any) but I doubt it's safe | 19:32 |
| fennekki | restart* | 19:32 |
| fennekki | not reboot, the system stays up fine | 19:32 |
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| kimmoli | harbour-validated rpm, and did get very strange issues... accidentally validated debuginfo rpm | 19:37 |
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| iSanttu | it is possible get working kik messenger for jolla? | 19:59 |
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| inte | coderus didnt do anythign like that | 20:02 |
| inte | developer mode is enabled, though | 20:02 |
| coderus | inte: show [ssu fl] output | 20:03 |
| inte | just a second | 20:04 |
| inte | just reactived dev mode | 20:04 |
| inte | takes some time | 20:04 |
| inte | and soccer is on TV :) | 20:04 |
| coderus | why reactivated? :D | 20:04 |
| inte | i deleted .config yesterday | 20:05 |
| coderus | but why? :) | 20:05 |
| inte | wanted to delete .cache and tabed-return too early grrr | 20:05 |
| inte | that broke several settings | 20:05 |
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| inte | just to make sure :) | 20:05 |
| cousin_luigi | Greetings. | 20:05 |
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| cousin_luigi | Can sailfishos be installed on devices other than jolla phones? | 20:06 |
| raa70 | yes | 20:06 |
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| inte | reactivated=disabled and reenabled | 20:06 |
| cousin_luigi | raa70: Where can I find a list of the supported devices? | 20:08 |
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| inte | coderus: Device flavour is currently: release | 20:18 |
| Nicd- | cousin_luigi: here's a list of work in progress android ports: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 20:19 |
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| Nicd- | cousin_luigi: there are also community builds for the N9 I think | 20:19 |
| Nicd- | (Nokia N9 that is) | 20:19 |
| inte | coderus: maybe there is something broken in the warehouse repos for the moment? Does it currently work for you? | 20:19 |
| stephg | currently images are only available for the nexus 4 | 20:19 |
| * inte reinstalled warehouse aleady | 20:19 | |
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| stephg | the nokia n9 image is stuck at 1.0.2.5 irrc | 20:19 |
| cousin_luigi | Nicd-: a tad old | 20:19 |
| Nicd- | cousin_luigi? | 20:20 |
| cousin_luigi | and the nexus 4 is more expensive than jolla phone:) | 20:20 |
| cousin_luigi | Nicd-: I mean the n9 | 20:20 |
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| Nicd- | yep, but many geeks love it | 20:20 |
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| Nokius | Hi guys is there any way to get my Jolla back from Device Lock if the code is typed in wrong ? | 20:20 |
| Nicd- | Nokius: you typed wrong too many times? | 20:21 |
| Nokius | Nicd-: yes | 20:21 |
| cousin_luigi | Nicd-: I'll see if I can find a good price for it. | 20:21 |
| Nicd- | Nokius: there was a trick if you still have SSH connectivity | 20:21 |
| Nokius | Nicd-: :O | 20:21 |
| Nicd- | cousin_luigi: note that the N9 build is a community build so not supported | 20:21 |
| Nicd- | and probably quite buggy | 20:21 |
| cousin_luigi | :| | 20:22 |
| inte | wow:) | 20:22 |
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| coderus | inte: ssu fl sales; ssu re; | 20:23 |
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| coderus | inte: openrepos is always working ::) | 20:24 |
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| inte | now it says | 20:25 |
| inte | Device release is currently: latest | 20:25 |
| inte | wow i think everybody hates Germany now | 20:25 |
| coderus | ssu up | 20:25 |
| inte | Device is not registered, can't update credentials | 20:26 |
| inte | wtf | 20:26 |
| coderus | and now you can update repositories in warehouse | 20:26 |
| coderus | its okay | 20:26 |
| inte | i can install from harbor, though | 20:26 |
| coderus | just go to warehouse now and enjoy | 20:26 |
| FireFly | You're not supposed to register with the developer thingies I think | 20:26 |
| Nicd- | inte: maybe just the brazilians | 20:26 |
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| inte | Nicd-: not sure :) | 20:26 |
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| coderus | inte: if not, do pkcon install zypper | 20:27 |
| coderus | devel-su | 20:27 |
| coderus | zypper ref | 20:27 |
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| Nicd- | inte: why would others hate them? they're playing clean, they're just better (so far) | 20:27 |
| inte | can i do that from pkcon as well | 20:27 |
| Nicd- | why would you hate a team for winning? | 20:27 |
| inte | Nicd-: sure:) | 20:27 |
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| Nokius | Nicd-: :( uh the USH Dev mode tells me first to unlock to connect :( | 20:28 |
| inte | Nicd-: a friend of mine is in the stadium I'm curious what he will tell | 20:28 |
| Nicd- | USH? you mean SSH? | 20:28 |
| inte | yeahhhh | 20:29 |
| inte | lol | 20:29 |
| coderus | inte: zypper will show more actual output than pkcon | 20:29 |
| Nokius | Nicd-: USB | 20:29 |
| inte | coderus: but doesnt it break harbor? | 20:29 |
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| coderus | of course no :D | 20:29 |
| coderus | its just application :D | 20:29 |
| inte | read it once | 20:29 |
| inte | coderus: could not find zypper | 20:31 |
| inte | ssu up is not working | 20:31 |
| inte | no credentials | 20:31 |
| Nicd- | inte: need to install zypper first with pkcon... | 20:31 |
| inte | p | 20:32 |
| inte | kcon install zypper | 20:32 |
| inte | Ausführung des Befehls fehlgeschlagen: Dieses Werkzeug konnte keine verfügbaren Pakete finden: could not find zypper | 20:32 |
| inte | german error message *sorry* | 20:32 |
| M4rtinK | nice bilingual response :) | 20:32 |
| inte | pkcon obviously cant find zypper | 20:32 |
| inte | M4rtinK: german local in terminal | 20:32 |
| M4rtinK | sure, but I mean the "could not find zypper" at the end | 20:33 |
| Nokius | Nicd-: so I have now a non functional device | 20:33 |
| Nokius | M4rtinK: ^^ | 20:33 |
| Nokius | Nicd-: is there any failsaife mode | 20:34 |
| Nokius | Nicd-: :-/ | 20:34 |
| Nicd- | Nokius: if you cannot get in with SSH, there is no way to recover it I'm afraid | 20:35 |
| Nicd- | you'll have to send it to Jolla | 20:35 |
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| Nokius | Nicd-: :( | 20:35 |
| Nicd- | that is the point of the lock code, so people cannot get to your data | 20:35 |
| inte | or your device... | 20:36 |
| Nicd- | or alternatively sell your device to another person (if they could reset it) | 20:36 |
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| iSanttu | how i get kik messenget working on jolla ? | 20:36 |
| inte | but isnt it possible to just reflash it? | 20:36 |
| Nicd- | inte: there are no tools for that | 20:36 |
| Nicd- | only Jolla have them currently | 20:36 |
| Nokius | Nicd-: good to now thats realy lock the phone :D unlike the other wich still talk about killswitch :D | 20:36 |
| M4rtinK | inte: with what ? ;-) | 20:36 |
| iSanttu | anyone know? | 20:37 |
| Nicd- | even if there were, the phone could probably prevent their flashing | 20:37 |
| inte | thought that could be possible with the nokia flasher | 20:37 |
| inte | worked for N9 and N900 | 20:37 |
| inte | didn't know | 20:37 |
| iSanttu | ?:3 | 20:37 |
| Nicd- | well, you need to connect to the device to flash it, the device could refuse at that point | 20:37 |
| M4rtinK | well, I still thing the current implementation is just a nasty workaround for using a proper encryption for sensitive data | 20:38 |
| Nicd- | iSanttu: please don't repeat. if someone knows and wants to help you, they'll say something | 20:38 |
| M4rtinK | with many brutal side effects | 20:38 |
| iSanttu | okay | 20:38 |
| inte | coderus: any idea regarding my problem? | 20:38 |
| Nokius | M4rtinK: yes true point | 20:38 |
| inte | cant install zypper | 20:38 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, the data is still there, any determined enough attack will get it | 20:39 |
| M4rtinK | unlike if it was actually encrypted | 20:39 |
| Nokius | inte: guess you need a repo | but cant check it my Jolla is locked :P | 20:39 |
| Nokius | M4rtinK: yes | 20:39 |
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| Nokius | Now the new Funky TOH wih the switch coute help me to activate wifi :P | 20:41 |
| bennypr0fane | Hi, does anyone know if we're actually due for another update this month? | 20:41 |
| M4rtinK | IIRC yes | 20:41 |
| Nicd- | bennypr0fane: yes | 20:41 |
| bennypr0fane | I saw it announced on Jollausers, but didn't see anyhting else about it | 20:41 |
| bennypr0fane | anyone got a link? | 20:42 |
| pdanek | Do you think that some large companies intentionally do not release devices and software with full potential, only to save some "goals" for future to show continuous development? | 20:42 |
| Nicd- | bennypr0fane: http://www.thejollablog.com/jolla-announces-sailfish-os-update-8-come-july/ | 20:42 |
| M4rtinK | pdanek: I don't think so | 20:43 |
| M4rtinK | pdanek: first to market counts a lot | 20:44 |
| Nicd- | pdanek: well, they do release hardware which they deliberately make worse already :P | 20:44 |
| M4rtinK | pdanek: and it is normal to release unfinished crap to meet the device release deadline | 20:45 |
| pdanek | Nicd-: For what reason? | 20:45 |
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| M4rtinK | pdanek: so they always have enough place to show continuous development :) | 20:45 |
| Nicd- | pdanek: they sell it as a cheaper model. it's cheaper overall to make just one model and then disable some parts to sell cheaper | 20:45 |
| M4rtinK | oh, right | 20:46 |
| pdanek | hmmm | 20:46 |
| M4rtinK | Intel style | 20:46 |
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| M4rtinK | well, sometimes the parts are actually faulty so they are sold as lower models, but sometimes the do cripple them intentionally | 20:46 |
| M4rtinK | also often it is even just a software limitation | 20:47 |
| pdanek | interesting | 20:47 |
| pdanek | Because if you look at handhelds from 20 years ago. | 20:48 |
| pdanek | I feel it was all top notch HW quality. | 20:48 |
| M4rtinK | related is also the "we already have your money, so go FXXK yourself" practice of dropping support (driver updates, OS updates) for perfectly fine hardware | 20:48 |
| pdanek | While today, you buy Samsung GS3 and you feel it's a toy. | 20:48 |
| pdanek | hm | 20:48 |
| M4rtinK | different target group I guess | 20:49 |
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| M4rtinK | PDAs were often targeted to business users | 20:49 |
| pdanek | yeah, you're right | 20:49 |
| bennypr0fane | does anyone have the random reboots problem turned up only recently? I never used to have that, now it keeps doing that. There is a large thread at TJC, but it doesn't seem like a clear-cut case | 20:50 |
| M4rtinK | but even the lower-end Palms (Zire & co) were quite robust | 20:50 |
| Nicd- | bennypr0fane: they have been there for a long time | 20:50 |
| Nicd- | since january at least | 20:50 |
| Quu | december. | 20:50 |
| inte | Ok guys I think I know what it is. I accidentaly erased .config yesterday | 20:50 |
| Nokius | thanks for help so far enjoy the night | 20:50 |
| bennypr0fane | but what do people do about it? Has some sort of standard solution emerged? | 20:51 |
| inte | i (obviously only tried) to re-register my device today | 20:51 |
| Quu | bennypr0fane: nothing, contact care or suffer | 20:51 |
| inte | which doesnt seem to work | 20:51 |
| inte | how can i register my device? | 20:51 |
| Nicd- | bennypr0fane: the usual trick is the paper trick | 20:52 |
| pdanek | M4rtinK: Do you think that majority of business users of today are quite different than 20 years ago? | 20:52 |
| pdanek | Like you give shitty plastic phone to manager today and he will be fine with that> | 20:52 |
| pdanek | Where you would give the same shitty plastic phone (just lower specs, speaking of built quality) to manager 20 years ago and he would be like: wtf is that? | 20:52 |
| Nicd- | or sending to jolla service | 20:52 |
| bennypr0fane | I thought whoever ran into the random reboots had that from the start of using the device | 20:52 |
| bennypr0fane | hum... | 20:52 |
| M4rtinK | pdanek: no, I mean that the current smartphones are not targeted primarily on business users | 20:52 |
| Nicd- | my reboots started in february and then again in april | 20:53 |
| M4rtinK | pdanek: they are consumer devices, so lower quality | 20:53 |
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| pdanek | M4rtinK: I know what you meant, but the area of "business devices" is disappearing and consumer devices are used for business. | 20:53 |
| pdanek | So I gave off-topic question. :) | 20:53 |
| pdanek | Thinking... are our built quality expectation getting lower over time? | 20:54 |
| M4rtinK | well, the Thinkpad line is still holding the line :) | 20:54 |
| M4rtinK | there is a big build qality difference | 20:54 |
| pdanek | I'm long-time ThinkPad user and every new model is more shitty built quality. | 20:54 |
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| M4rtinK | consumer laptops are pretty shitty in comparison - they war easily and every single one brutally overheats with any sustained 3D processing | 20:55 |
| M4rtinK | war -> warp | 20:55 |
| M4rtinK | well yeah, the very latest thinkpads look like a step in the wrong direction | 20:56 |
| M4rtinK | from what I've heard the keyboard layout is horrendous, the clickpad that moves up and down about a millimeter and lacks normal buttons is unusable and they miss a hardware battery indicator | 20:57 |
| M4rtinK | indeed looks like an attempt on cutting costs | 20:57 |
| M4rtinK | but my T520 is still rock solid | 20:58 |
| M4rtinK | and even those new thinkpads are still better than 95% of the rest... | 20:58 |
| pdanek | I had T61, T410 and T430, and the built quality goes down, T61 was best, like a tank, T430 worst of those 3. | 20:58 |
| pdanek | + I was able to test older T40 etc... and they were even far better than T61. | 20:59 |
| pdanek | Yea, and the new keyboards on ThinkPads, are just worse. | 21:00 |
| pdanek | Keyboard, the best part of ThinkPad series and they fuck it up. | 21:01 |
| coderus | inte: show zypper ref output | 21:01 |
| inte | coderus i cant install zypper | 21:01 |
| pdanek | Still, if I have to choose new laptop, I will go with ThinkPad again, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. | 21:01 |
| coderus | inte: pkcon install zypper | 21:02 |
| inte | [root@Jolla nemo]# pkcon install zypper | 21:02 |
| inte | Ausführung des Befehls fehlgeschlagen: Dieses Werkzeug konnte keine verfügbaren Pakete finden: could not find zypper | 21:02 |
| inte | [ | 21:02 |
| special | ssu ar mer-tools | 21:02 |
| inte | special: still the same | 21:02 |
| special | then ssu ur and get pkcon to refresh too | 21:03 |
| inte | had this repo activated already anyways | 21:03 |
| inte | [root@Jolla nemo]# pkcon refresh | 21:03 |
| inte | Zwischenspeicher wird aktualisiert | 21:03 |
| inte | Warten in Warteschlange | 21:03 |
| M4rtinK | pdanek: yeah, that's the unfortunate truth :P | 21:03 |
| inte | Warten auf Legitimierung | 21:03 |
| inte | Warten in Warteschlange | 21:03 |
| inte | Starten | 21:03 |
| inte | Software-Liste wird aktualisiert | 21:03 |
| inte | Schwerwiegender Fehler: Authentication failed (is SSU set up correctly?) | 21:03 |
| special | pastebin. | 21:03 |
| inte | [root@Jolla nemo]# | 21:03 |
| inte | sorry for flooding | 21:03 |
| M4rtinK | pdanek: we need custom made open hardware laptops :) | 21:03 |
| inte | yeah | 21:03 |
| special | your configuration looks screwed up | 21:04 |
| inte | indeed | 21:04 |
| coderus | inte: show ssu lr | 21:04 |
| special | also zypper is apparently in mer-core, so it's available | 21:04 |
| inte | coderus | 21:04 |
| inte | ok I rather use pastebin for that :) | 21:04 |
| inte | just a second | 21:04 |
| coderus | sure | 21:04 |
| M4rtinK | pdanek: BTW, have you seen the Panasonic ToughBook ? that's probably the most robust laptop you can get :) | 21:05 |
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| M4rtinK | pdanek: a friend demonstrated it by just dropping it on the ground - I think we have a small hole in the ground since then :) | 21:06 |
| pdanek | M4rtinK: Not sure if Toughbook specifically, but I know this extremely durable series of laptops from Panasonic, often used in military etc. They're famous with 'em. | 21:06 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, that's it or related | 21:06 |
| M4rtinK | it is as heavy as a brick and about as tough :) | 21:06 |
| pdanek | Ye. | 21:07 |
| pdanek | yep. | 21:07 |
| inte | damed first had to disable privoxy/tor and then to enable cookies only to do this paste... http://pastebin.com/cAmWbzRJ | 21:09 |
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| inte | do I have to set domain sales or release? | 21:11 |
| special | what does 'ssu s' say? | 21:12 |
| inte | [nemo@Jolla ~]$ ssu s | 21:13 |
| inte | Device registration status: not registered | 21:13 |
| inte | Device model: Jolla (SbJ / JP-1301) | 21:13 |
| inte | Release (rnd): latest (release) | 21:13 |
| inte | device uid is the same as shown at account.jolla.com | 21:13 |
| inte | and im logged into that account in harbor/jolla accounts | 21:14 |
| special | I don't actually know what it's supposed to look like on a public device. Maybe someone here can compare. | 21:14 |
| cousin_luigi | Do you happen to know for how long Meego will be supported? | 21:15 |
| inte | does anybody have a public device and is willing to execute "ssu s" in terminal? | 21:15 |
| coderus | cousin_luigi: Meego is not supported for a long time | 21:15 |
| cousin_luigi | :/ | 21:16 |
| cousin_luigi | I suspect I'll have to get this jolla phone | 21:16 |
| inte | cousin_luigi: I guess there is a sailfish release for the N9 \ | 21:16 |
| inte | cousin_luigi: but getting a Jolla device is of course way better :) | 21:17 |
| coderus | inte: special: i have different set of repositories: http://paste.kde.org/pjs4qveys | 21:17 |
| cousin_luigi | is there an offline maps app for sailfish? | 21:17 |
| special | cousin_luigi: yeah, that's kind of what I thought | 21:17 |
| coderus | cousin_luigi: it have android apps support | 21:18 |
| coderus | so yes there are many maps :) | 21:18 |
| coderus | and there also some OSM maps already done for sailfish native | 21:18 |
| special | inte: 'ssu domain sales' 'ssu ur' 'pkcon refresh' | 21:18 |
| cousin_luigi | coderus: uhm | 21:18 |
| cousin_luigi | I'd rather avoid android stuff | 21:19 |
| coderus | why? :) | 21:19 |
| pdanek | http://oldcomputers.net/pics/hp95lx.jpg such a beauty | 21:19 |
| coderus | its very well implemented in jolla | 21:19 |
| inte | special: Schwerwiegender Fehler: Authentication failed (is SSU set up correctly?) | 21:19 |
| cousin_luigi | coderus: why else would I buy a jolla phone?:) | 21:19 |
| pdanek | Mer should be ported to it. | 21:19 |
| cousin_luigi | inte: I read that as Schweisteiger Fehler | 21:19 |
| cousin_luigi | am I too taken by this game? | 21:19 |
| inte | special: have changed that back and again plenty of times already | 21:19 |
| special | inte: then I don't know what has happened to your device | 21:20 |
| inte | cousin_luigi: well i dont actually see many mistakes bei Schweinsteiger on TV just now :) | 21:20 |
| cousin_luigi | inte: yes, that's why I wondered!:P | 21:20 |
| special | get the output of 'ssu domain', 'ssu fl' and 'ssu re' to match what people here have | 21:20 |
| inte | special: i deleted .config by mistake | 21:20 |
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| cousin_luigi | also how's the native support of caldav? | 21:20 |
| coderus | inte: remove Jolla account, reboot (just in case), and add account again. | 21:21 |
| coderus | special: do you have same set of repos like inte ahve or like i have? | 21:22 |
| special | coderus: I don't have a device within reach, but as far as I know the set he has work for internal credentials only | 21:22 |
| coderus | ok | 21:23 |
| inte | special: did that (relogin jolla account) plenty of time and again. Doesnt help | 21:23 |
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| * inte rebooting | 21:25 | |
| stephg | coderus: what are you looking for to compare? | 21:26 |
| stephg | inte: coderus: http://pastie.org/9369252 | 21:27 |
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| inte | stephg: great that worked thanks!! | 21:30 |
| inte | had to set "ssu re 1.0.7.18" | 21:30 |
| * inte will check openrepos now | 21:31 | |
| inte | probably that happend since I reverted to a backup i made on a previous release | 21:31 |
| inte | which probably set re to 1.0.5.something | 21:32 |
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| inte | and later i tried with the release setup to which im not allowed to | 21:32 |
| coderus | stephg: sse lr list to compare | 21:32 |
| inte | just a guess | 21:32 |
| coderus | stephg: inte and me have different repositories list | 21:32 |
| inte | coderus I set mine to the same as stephg and it apparently seems to work now | 21:33 |
| inte | at least a pkcon refresh does | 21:34 |
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| coderus | inte: i see | 21:34 |
| coderus | i'm talking with stephg now :) | 21:34 |
| inte | not sure about opemrepos yet | 21:34 |
| inte | so we are at 7:0 now | 21:34 |
| stephg | http://pastie.org/9369264 | 21:35 |
| stephg | so I'm absolutely vanilla, (no openrepos) only mer-tools and the connman hotfix | 21:36 |
| inte | stephg: do i need those fixes? openrepos presents them to me now | 21:36 |
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| stephg | do you 'need' them? no | 21:37 |
| inte | however i cannot enable repos in openrepos for some reason :( | 21:38 |
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| inte | openrepos update shows me sailfish-version, conman fixes and qt5-networksettings | 21:38 |
| inte | stephg: what is it good for isnt it only recommended if people have trouble with e.g. lte? | 21:40 |
| stephg | https://together.jolla.com/question/45026/hotfix-opt-in-hotfix-for-connectivity-in-upcoming-update-7/ | 21:40 |
| stephg | is for folks that want to beta test, it doesn't fix anything per se | 21:41 |
| inte | ok so now im a beta tester without ever having opt-in:) | 21:42 |
| inte | nice | 21:42 |
| special | no, the store will revert you the next time you update. | 21:42 |
| inte | probaly jolla uses a different release version | 21:42 |
| inte | special: ah ok | 21:42 |
| stephg | yeah if you don't want change .18 to .16 | 21:42 |
| coderus | stephg: same with mine and different with inte :) | 21:42 |
| inte | so nothing would harm my device | 21:43 |
| stephg | no | 21:43 |
| inte | coderus: mine is now the same as stephg | 21:43 |
| * inte will reinstall warehouse (again) | 21:44 | |
| coderus | stephg: any ideas why inte have different repos setup? | 21:44 |
| special | different how? | 21:44 |
| coderus | check http://pastebin.com/cAmWbzRJ | 21:45 |
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| special | that was because it was set to an internal ssu configuration | 21:45 |
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| coderus | it's inte ssu lr | 21:46 |
| coderus | ah oh? | 21:46 |
| special | those repositories require jolla credentials | 21:46 |
| coderus | but he says he never touched ssu button in devmode settings :D | 21:46 |
| stephg | well they must have got there somehow ;) | 21:47 |
| coderus | :) | 21:47 |
| special | he wiped out configuration. I think ssu defaults to those if everything else is removed | 21:47 |
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| cousin_luigi | tell me, is there just one model of jolla phone? | 21:50 |
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| stephg | cousin_luigi: yes | 21:50 |
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| cousin_luigi | ok | 21:51 |
| cousin_luigi | bbl | 21:51 |
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| stephg | right is bed time | 21:55 |
| stephg | gnight everyone, catch you in the morning | 21:55 |
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| inte | still cant enable repos in openrepos:( | 22:07 |
| inte | coderus: i guess the lr-repo thing maybe happend later? | 22:08 |
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| inte | maybe here | 22:09 |
| inte | [22:23] <coderus> inte: ssu fl sales; ssu re; | 22:09 |
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| inte | nope | 22:09 |
| inte | i dont know | 22:09 |
| inte | maybe something habend when i del .config | 22:10 |
| inte | happend | 22:10 |
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| inte | openrepos is still broken and i cannot enable *any* repo | 22:13 |
| inte | any idea, anyone? | 22:13 |
| coderus | show zypper ref output :) | 22:14 |
| inte | ah that story | 22:14 |
| inte | mom | 22:14 |
| inte | do i have to stop packagekit? | 22:16 |
| coderus | sure | 22:18 |
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| inte | http://pastebin.com/p7GPtd4q | 22:18 |
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| coderus | what the error when you trying to enable repo in warehouse? | 22:19 |
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| inte | no error | 22:21 |
| inte | its just not enabling the repo | 22:21 |
| inte | refreshing.... | 22:21 |
| inte | and back to the "enable repo" button | 22:21 |
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| coderus | no idea then | 22:23 |
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| inte | coderus is there something in .config regarding warehouse? | 22:29 |
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| pdanek | Isn't it confusing to most to name "Contacts" app in Jolla as "People"? | 22:47 |
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| inte | coderus the only error message i see for warehouse is QDBusObjectPath: invalid path "" | 22:59 |
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| inte | and, in journalctl | 23:04 |
| inte | Jul 09 01:03:59 Jolla signond[6027]: signondaemon.cpp 360 init Failed to SUID root. Secure storage will not be available. | 23:04 |
| inte | Jul 09 01:03:59 Jolla dbus-daemon[914 | 23:04 |
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| inte | no thats not related | 23:07 |
| inte | its | 23:07 |
| inte | QDBusObjectPath: invalid path "" | 23:08 |
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| eyea_UK | Jolla )01!@ )0y | 23:14 |
| eyea_UK | how is everyone | 23:14 |
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