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| inz | ooh, fingerterm is pretty cool, wasn't expecting this enjoyable irssi experience with vkb | 10:00 |
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| ruskie | I find it pretty annoying | 10:05 |
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| fsdun | moin | 11:08 |
| fsdun | Does Google allow to run all Android apps on Jolla? | 11:08 |
| fsdun | and is the flatrate working in play music? | 11:08 |
| Morpog_PC | how should they be able not to allow it? | 11:11 |
| Morpog_PC | or are you talking about google play store and services? | 11:12 |
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| Aciid | fsdun: most of Jolla users don't care about google, apk's work because there is a vm. | 11:16 |
| inte | except for bluetooth | 11:17 |
| inte | doesnt work for android apps (apart from audio) | 11:17 |
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| Morpog_PC | well, that could work with an update, if jolla is working on that | 11:17 |
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| inte | yep hopefully | 11:18 |
| inte | but not yet | 11:19 |
| inte | i would really want that, e.g. to connect my car interface to the phone | 11:19 |
| inte | for torque | 11:19 |
| inte | otherwise i would have to buy a wifi interface | 11:19 |
| inte | or wait until someone ports http://sourceforge.net/projects/openobd/ to SailfishOS :) | 11:22 |
| Morpog_PC | or hire someone | 11:23 |
| fsdun | Aciid, Ingress!! | 11:25 |
| Morpog_PC | I think I have seen coderus runing ingress on his jolla :D | 11:25 |
| Morpog_PC | or someone else, it was on a screenshot | 11:26 |
| matrixx | ingress works rather well | 11:26 |
| fsdun | except some games and mediathek apps I could live without android | 11:27 |
| Morpog_PC | i love the burgerking app :D | 11:27 |
| matrixx | ingress and evernote are only android apps which are in active use on my jolla | 11:27 |
| Morpog_PC | and firefox is sometimes good to have | 11:28 |
| Aciid | I'm using telegram and thats it | 11:28 |
| ggabriel | o/ | 11:31 |
| ggabriel | magically, sailfish's ifconfig reports a completely random IP address | 11:32 |
| ggabriel | but the one I know it should have works | 11:32 |
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| inte | ggabriel have you setup a vpn or sth? | 11:33 |
| ggabriel | inte: nope, all standard | 11:33 |
| ggabriel | first time i check too | 11:33 |
| inte | maybe there are two addresses, one from your wifi and one from your mobile connection | 11:34 |
| ggabriel | mobile connection is off | 11:34 |
| inte | often sth. like 10.xxx | 11:34 |
| ggabriel | and the wifi i assume it's wlan0 | 11:34 |
| inte | mh | 11:34 |
| inte | yep | 11:34 |
| inte | works for me though | 11:34 |
| ggabriel | maybe there's a delay somewhere in updating that | 11:35 |
| ggabriel | it usually works | 11:35 |
| ggabriel | basically at home the jolla can have one ip address | 11:35 |
| ggabriel | because all the dhcpd are belong to me ;) | 11:35 |
| ggabriel | but wlan0 didn't update it | 11:35 |
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| ggabriel | funny that it works tho | 11:35 |
| inte | what does netstat -r say? | 11:36 |
| ggabriel | netstat provides the right info | 11:36 |
| ggabriel | so, routes are fine | 11:36 |
| inte | are you really sure ifconfig shows a *wrong* ip? | 11:37 |
| inte | can't actually | 11:37 |
| ggabriel | i ssh into 192.168.1.75 | 11:37 |
| ggabriel | and ifconfig reports this: | 11:37 |
| ggabriel | inet addr:192.168.43.165 Bcast:192.168.43.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 | 11:37 |
| ggabriel | (wlan0) | 11:37 |
| ggabriel | no other ipaddresses for ifconfig -a | 11:37 |
| inte | strange | 11:38 |
| ggabriel | very | 11:38 |
| ggabriel | bah, could be a bug | 11:38 |
| inte | in ifconfig? | 11:38 |
| ggabriel | i'm not too familiar how ifconfig works in sailfish | 11:38 |
| ggabriel | as in, the communication layers are different from your normal linux | 11:38 |
| inte | mh what, btw, does the ip address app from jolla harbor say? | 11:38 |
| Morpog_PC | it tells your ip adress :D | 11:39 |
| ggabriel | i odn't have that... i checked settings first | 11:39 |
| ggabriel | and it reports the same as ifconfig | 11:39 |
| inte | ok | 11:39 |
| fsdun | Morpog_PC, no native firefox? | 11:39 |
| ggabriel | i wont't lose sleep for this though, just thought it was strange :) | 11:39 |
| inte | what happens if you ping yourselve on your jolla? | 11:39 |
| inte | to both address? | 11:40 |
| Morpog_PC | fsdun, well, the sailfish browser is using gecko and xulrunner (without xul), so sort of firefox | 11:40 |
| Morpog_PC | but nothing native from mozilla | 11:40 |
| ggabriel | inte: works both times :) | 11:40 |
| Morpog_PC | gtg | 11:40 |
| ggabriel | ofc from outside it works with the correct ip address | 11:40 |
| inte | mh maybe something with developer mode | 11:41 |
| inte | did you set that up on the same network? | 11:41 |
| inte | for usb connections? | 11:41 |
| ggabriel | nope, for usb connections there's another ip address | 11:41 |
| ggabriel | but phone isn't on usb now | 11:41 |
| inte | maybe the device gets confused | 11:41 |
| ggabriel | the device is very confused now ;) | 11:41 |
| ggabriel | the previous ip address must be from a hotspot i used yesterday | 11:41 |
| inte | and still there should be something like wlan0 AND wlan0:0 in ifconfig | 11:41 |
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| inte | for both addresses | 11:42 |
| ggabriel | no wlan0:0 | 11:42 |
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| ggabriel | loads of rmnet*, p2p0 | 11:42 |
| ggabriel | with no ip addresses | 11:42 |
| inte | yep its really strange | 11:42 |
| inte | what is p2p0? | 11:43 |
| ggabriel | i have no clue | 11:43 |
| inte | i don't have that either | 11:43 |
| ggabriel | appears with ifconfig -a | 11:43 |
| inte | not for me | 11:43 |
| inte | you better run chkrootkit | 11:43 |
| inte | or rkhunter :) | 11:43 |
| inte | (don't know if that works on Jolla though:) | 11:44 |
| ggabriel | hehe, you think i've been "hacked"? :) | 11:44 |
| inte | you never know :) | 11:44 |
| fsdun | Morpog_PC, The Internet is unsuable without ghostery/no script. Is it possible to use? | 11:44 |
| ggabriel | inte: could be the usb interface | 11:45 |
| ggabriel | and it could be installed only when you use it | 11:45 |
| ggabriel | which i did on sunday | 11:45 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: i have no idea what is ingress stands for | 11:45 |
| fsdun | coderus, a arguemented reality game by Google | 11:46 |
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| inte | ggabriel: maybe | 11:46 |
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| inte | fsdun: i was using noscript on my n900 for a while | 11:49 |
| inte | haven't tried it on the jolla yet | 11:49 |
| inte | might work, though | 11:49 |
| fsdun | no script on mobile device could be painful, but ghostery does a very good subset | 11:49 |
| inte | adblock on the n900 was even worse | 11:50 |
| inte | incredibly slow | 11:50 |
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| fsdun | adblock is another mandatory feature | 11:53 |
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| inte | actually browsing experience on sailfish is not that bad | 11:54 |
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| fsdun | what is jolla actually using for build images? | 11:57 |
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| M4rtinK | I would think OBS | 11:58 |
| M4rtinK | it can do images IIRC | 11:58 |
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| inte | you can build packages right on the device | 12:04 |
| inte | like download the source | 12:05 |
| inte | configure | 12:05 |
| inte | make | 12:05 |
| inte | very handy | 12:05 |
| fsdun | but slow | 12:05 |
| fsdun | and linking big image could be jard | 12:06 |
| inte | of course this doesn't work for anything that relies on X11 | 12:06 |
| fsdun | hard | 12:06 |
| fsdun | jolla still uses X11? | 12:06 |
| Yaniel | no | 12:06 |
| inte | nope | 12:06 |
| Yaniel | 1st wayland phone | 12:06 |
| inte | therefore X11 apps don't work | 12:06 |
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| inte | there is no Xwayland available and I doubt the lipstick compositor supports X at all | 12:07 |
| inte | don't know though | 12:07 |
| Yaniel | the alarm on my jolla rang this morning | 12:08 |
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| Yaniel | and when I unlocked the screen it showed me only the background image | 12:08 |
| Yaniel | and didn't react to anything | 12:08 |
| Yaniel | so the alarm just rang and rang | 12:08 |
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| fsdun | phew. X is a beast | 12:09 |
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| inte | fsdun jup but it was still nice to run apps remotely by ssh -X on my n900 :) | 12:10 |
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| fsdun | my n900 does not detect SIM cards anymore :( | 12:11 |
| inte | oh sorry | 12:12 |
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| inte | i had the same problem but got it replaced after almost 2 years :) | 12:12 |
| fsdun | they replaced the device? | 12:12 |
| inte | yes | 12:13 |
| inte | in 2011 i guess | 12:13 |
| fsdun | I should have tried to replace it | 12:13 |
| inte | or maybe 2012 | 12:13 |
| inte | that was cool | 12:13 |
| inte | i guess you can forget about that now, though | 12:13 |
| inte | probably they'd rather send you some lumia-crap | 12:14 |
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| fsdun | I thought about buying a GTA-04, but OMAP3 is not really fast and outdated :( | 12:16 |
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| Stskeeps | M4rtinK: fsdun: MIC for building images | 12:17 |
| inte | there is the neo900 in the works | 12:17 |
| inte | fsdun www.neo900.org | 12:17 |
| inte | don't know if it will run maemo as well | 12:18 |
| Sail0r | oooh no ^^ first time since I own my Jolla that it run out of battery before charging it ^^ | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | Sail0r: how many days? :P | 12:18 |
| Sail0r | was on since monday | 12:18 |
| locusf | wow | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | i've just had to open and re-close my samsung galaxy gear.. after a month, it decided it didn't want to be booted or charged anymore | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | consumer electronics is really once of the worst businesses to be in | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:19 |
| inte | Sail0r: you barely used it i guess | 12:19 |
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| inte | the irc client for jolla is great btw | 12:19 |
| Sail0r | email check every 15mins, twitter acc connected, caldav sync twice a day surfing every morning for 15mins so not that much | 12:19 |
| inte | and dalvik switched off i guess | 12:20 |
| Sail0r | Only 3g enabled everything else turned off | 12:20 |
| Sail0r | inte: yep | 12:20 |
| Sail0r | not even installed at the moment ;) | 12:20 |
| fsdun | inte, TI DM3730 is OMAP3, too :( | 12:20 |
| inte | when i use waze on dalvik in my car the phone gets empty even though its connected to a car charger | 12:21 |
| inte | :) | 12:21 |
| Sail0r | my galaxy s2 needs to be recharged every evening -.- ^^ | 12:21 |
| inte | android sucks | 12:21 |
| inte | i guess its the vm | 12:21 |
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| raa79 | and samsungs touchwiz | 12:22 |
| inte | lucky that i barely use dalvik as well | 12:22 |
| inte | only for waze | 12:22 |
| Sail0r | I think something is wrong with the firmware on my galaxy s2 | 12:22 |
| inte | and ticket apps | 12:22 |
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| Sail0r | it gets so hot everytime and I don't know what it is | 12:22 |
| Sail0r | did a factory reset and did install nothing | 12:22 |
| Sail0r | it still gets hot | 12:22 |
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| inte | the jolla also gets pretty hot when playing android games e.g. | 12:23 |
| Sail0r | yeah, but my samsung gets hot without doing smth ^^ | 12:23 |
| inte | its probably normal | 12:23 |
| inte | its maybe also hacked like ggabriel jolla:) | 12:24 |
| Sail0r | oO | 12:24 |
| inte | dalvik stop is one of my most used apps :) | 12:25 |
| Sail0r | i use killdroid ^^ | 12:26 |
| inte | :) | 12:26 |
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| Sail0r | but currently I am trying to life without android | 12:27 |
| Sail0r | and the only thing I am missing is google maps | 12:27 |
| inte | i never use google maps | 12:28 |
| Sail0r | because of the traffic overlay | 12:28 |
| inte | except for in waze | 12:28 |
| inte | waze also does that | 12:28 |
| inte | but wait, could be that waze is based on m$ mapps | 12:28 |
| inte | don't even know | 12:28 |
| Sail0r | i hope here maps gets a traffic overlay | 12:29 |
| inte | there are several osm apps available as well | 12:29 |
| inte | they had it on the n9 | 12:29 |
| inte | with an extra patch | 12:29 |
| inte | that worked great | 12:29 |
| inte | would love to get the n9 maps on jolla | 12:29 |
| M4rtinK | Sail0r: next version of modRana should have overlay support | 12:29 |
| inte | offline maps were also nice | 12:30 |
| Sail0r | cool | 12:30 |
| Sail0r | that sounds good M4rtinK | 12:30 |
| inte | what is modrana? | 12:30 |
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| inte | ah found it | 12:31 |
| inte | does it support navigation as well? | 12:31 |
| inte | and voice ? | 12:31 |
| inte | and offline maps? | 12:31 |
| inte | oh | 12:32 |
| inte | i have installed it already | 12:32 |
| inte | :) | 12:32 |
| M4rtinK | not yet, but planed | 12:32 |
| inte | never used it yet, though :)) | 12:32 |
| M4rtinK | it already does offline routing & navigation on the N900 | 12:32 |
| Sail0r | http://modrana.org/trac/wiki/ChangelogEN | 12:32 |
| Sail0r | according to this version it was already implemented in 0,39 | 12:33 |
| M4rtinK | not yet on the Jolla - the GUI on the Jolla does not support that yet | 12:33 |
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| inte | nokia could easily release a dedicated here-version for the Jolla | 12:33 |
| inte | they would only need to recompile the n9 version i guess | 12:33 |
| M4rtinK | Sail0r: might as well update the changelog page :) | 12:33 |
| M4rtinK | inte: would not be so easy | 12:34 |
| Sail0r | ah k | 12:34 |
| inte | and since they are still developing for qt and linux for there automotive solution... | 12:34 |
| inte | they might be able to do so or why not M4rtinK? | 12:34 |
| M4rtinK | inte: I think it is not even QML ut MeeGo touch and definitely Qt 4 based | 12:34 |
| inte | but they have probably switched there here automotive solution to Qt5 already | 12:35 |
| M4rtinK | even for GPS you need to change it from QtMobility (Qt 4) to QtPositioning (Qt 5) | 12:35 |
| inte | the *should* be able to release a Jolla version | 12:35 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, not impossible just not a simple recompile :) | 12:35 |
| fsdun | I want to have EBGuide or the top class NNG system | 12:36 |
| fsdun | or new google maps :) | 12:36 |
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| inte | does anybody know what happend to the here auto platform at all? | 12:37 |
| inte | they introduced it roughly a year ago: http://360.here.com/2013/08/30/here-auto-connect-your-car-to-the-cloud/ | 12:37 |
| inte | nothing heard since | 12:38 |
| Sail0r | M4rtinK: does Jolla have to provide smth to get overlays working or is it "only" a implementation issue of the app | 12:39 |
| inte | bbl | 12:39 |
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| M4rtinK | Sail0r: well, I have my own map display element so from my point of view it is not dependent on Jolla | 12:43 |
| Sail0r | k | 12:45 |
| Sail0r | brb | 12:45 |
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| M4rtinK | Sail0r: this is how it looks like: https://twitter.com/M4rtinK/status/479916928430276608 | 12:46 |
| M4rtinK | I have it running, just need to stabilize it to a releasable form :) | 12:47 |
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| ruskie | hmmm would be nice to have a TOH that would be the same colour as the edge | 13:16 |
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| inte | edge? | 13:17 |
| ruskie | the upper edge of jolla | 13:17 |
| ruskie | has this redish metalic dark magenta colour | 13:18 |
| inte | ah | 13:18 |
| ruskie | still have a bit of a problem with single handed control though | 13:19 |
| ruskie | part of my palm tends to touch the touchscreen | 13:20 |
| ruskie | atleast how I normally hold it | 13:20 |
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| inte | i think the jolla interface is really optimized for single handed control | 13:21 |
| inte | if you figured out how to properly hold it:) | 13:21 |
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| chem|st | ruskie: what edge are you talking about? my jolla is black... | 13:34 |
| chem|st | inte: there are some things missing like settings favourites populate from top edge | 13:36 |
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| ruskie | chem|st, look at it from the side... it's not black | 13:39 |
| ruskie | it's near black | 13:39 |
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| ruskie | with a spot of colour | 13:39 |
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| inte | chem|st: how often do you need the settings... | 13:41 |
| inte | of course there might still be some room for improvement but its already quite good | 13:41 |
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| inte | and far better than anything else i know | 13:41 |
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| fsdun | anyone tried to port jolla to the new Palm/HP devices? | 13:53 |
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| netzvieh | fsdun: I don't think so? It's using an android kernel, so it'd take more effort than to port it to other android devices ... and the HADK isn't even out yet ^^ | 14:02 |
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| fsdun | does TI provide good SDK for android? | 14:03 |
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| fsdun | and i have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3(x86) which isn't supported by cyanogenmod. Any efforts to support x86? | 14:05 |
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| inte | fsdun maybe you could have a look at plasma touch for that one | 14:28 |
| inte | however, i guess the next kde (kde 5) will come with both (touch AND tradtional environment) in one DE | 14:29 |
| inte | which will allow changing environments on the fly | 14:30 |
| inte | similar to win8 | 14:30 |
| inte | except for that you will have the same apps on both environments | 14:30 |
| ruskie | and not a half arsed attempt unlike win8 | 14:31 |
| inte | yep | 14:31 |
| inte | i guess this will be cool | 14:31 |
| inte | on single de which will fit to both touch and click just as you need it | 14:31 |
| inte | ah sorry plasma active | 14:32 |
| inte | not plasma touch | 14:32 |
| inte | http://plasma-active.org/ | 14:32 |
| inte | and, as is said, i heard they are about to merge it into the regular kde branch | 14:32 |
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| chem|st | inte: turning on/off [gsm,wlan,gps,bt,flightmode]? quiet often! | 15:30 |
| inte | chem|st: have you tried the patchmanager extensions | 15:32 |
| inte | ? | 15:32 |
| inte | https://openrepos.net/content/sfietkonstantin/patchmanager | 15:33 |
| inte | its cool | 15:33 |
| inte | you can easily reach those shortcuts by swiping either to the side, or through the notification window | 15:34 |
| inte | even one-handed :) | 15:34 |
| inte | its pretty stable (for me) already | 15:34 |
| inte | no need to replace lipstick anymore | 15:35 |
| inte | cool | 15:35 |
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| chem|st | inte_away: last time I checked that was not working and all it did was showing the exact same view as the settings' frontpage | 15:58 |
| chem|st | inte_away: it is about the position on the screen not how I reach the page | 15:59 |
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| inte` | chem|st: the position varies on how you reach it | 17:23 |
| inte` | if you put it on the notification screen it will appear below tge notifications | 17:23 |
| inte` | thus, in the middle of the screen | 17:23 |
| inte` | easy to reach even with small hands i guess | 17:23 |
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| chem|st | inte_away: wtf the position varies? no idea what you are talking about! | 18:37 |
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| inte | chem|st: if the settings shortcuts are in the settings menu they appear on the top of the page | 19:05 |
| inte | if they are on the notification screen, they are shifted to the middle | 19:05 |
| inte | since notifications are on top | 19:06 |
| inte | or what do you mean? | 19:06 |
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| chem|st | inte: ok now I get you, I don't want favourites on the events-page | 22:57 |
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| inte | it's up to you | 22:58 |
| inte | there is not much going on on the events page actually | 22:58 |
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| inte | only twitter and email | 22:58 |
| inte | and shortcut to facebook | 22:58 |
| chem|st | inte: I requested to swap the page layout for settings as you need the shortcuts more often but no love yet | 22:58 |
| vishap | hey, people! is it possible to buy jolla in all EU countries not by using online orders, but just go to the shop and buy it. To be precise, I am interested if it's possible to get a Jolla device from a offline shop in Hungary. | 22:59 |
| chem|st | vishap: not yet I presume, but where is the problem in online ordering? | 22:59 |
| inte | chem|st: whats wrong with the standard layout at all? | 22:59 |
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| vishap | the problem is, I don't live in EU, and I will have a friend in Hungary for 5 days soon. So I am not sure if I order it now online it'll reach friend's hotel in time. | 23:00 |
| chem|st | inte: you have toggles not reachable or hardly reachable single-handedly | 23:00 |
| chem|st | vishap: where do you live? | 23:01 |
| vishap | Armenia | 23:01 |
| chem|st | and probably not | 23:01 |
| chem|st | vishap: ask jolla if they are willing to ship to armenia | 23:01 |
| inte | chem|st: small hands mh | 23:01 |
| inte | for me it's no problem even with the standard layout | 23:02 |
| inte | vishap: you can get it in stores in finland | 23:02 |
| vishap | Where to ask? How long takes the delivery to EU country, like Hungary usually? | 23:02 |
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| chem|st | inte: no, I have large hands with long fingers, but as soon as you have to move the phone in your palm to reach it it is not reachable by using it with one hand | 23:02 |
| chem|st | vishap: it is fedex and my package is sitting in helsinki since wednesday | 23:03 |
| inte | chem|st: i'm using my thump and it's just fine | 23:03 |
| inte | anyways... | 23:03 |
| chem|st | inte: your thumb is 10cm long? | 23:04 |
| inte | :) | 23:04 |
| inte | i guess i barely use the bottom of the screnn | 23:05 |
| inte | screen | 23:05 |
| chem|st | it depends on how you hold it, what is reachable and what not - reads you have to move the phone in your palm to reach everything | 23:05 |
| chem|st | perfect area for one handed use is lower part of the display | 23:06 |
| inte | as long if you really need to reach the bottom | 23:06 |
| inte | normaly yes | 23:06 |
| chem|st | lol, sure I do I have a kbd there to be used | 23:06 |
| inte | but as long as there is nothing one has to reach... | 23:06 |
| chem|st | sure I turn on wlan to not do anything what needs a kbd afterwards... | 23:07 |
| inte | whatever | 23:07 |
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| inte | it probably just doesn't disturb me that much | 23:08 |
| chem|st | no not whatever, you are defending a layout that forces users to move the phone in their palm | 23:08 |
| inte | i'm not defending it | 23:08 |
| inte | as i said it just doesnt bother me | 23:08 |
| chem|st | think $users please, not only "you" | 23:08 |
| inte | yup | 23:09 |
| chem|st | ym gf denies to have a phone bigger than 4" cause of no good usability onehanded | 23:10 |
| inte | thought putting the shortcuts in the notification screen could help out for in between | 23:10 |
| chem|st | putting the three lines of text on top of the settings page too | 23:10 |
| inte | yeah would be amazing to have some more sices available | 23:10 |
| inte | like a smaller phone | 23:11 |
| inte | and a tablet of course | 23:11 |
| inte | for me the jollas size is just right, on the other hands | 23:11 |
| inte | would only love to get some more tohs | 23:11 |
| chem|st | well n9 size with kbd would be enough for most people | 23:11 |
| inte | jup | 23:11 |
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| chem|st | I actually like the n97 size too | 23:12 |
| inte | i would have loved to buy an n950 but it never became buyable | 23:12 |
| inte | was a shame | 23:12 |
| chem|st | nokia was full of microshit back then... hope they start over in 2016 and make good phones again | 23:13 |
| chem|st | they are sane enough to not sell all patents | 23:14 |
| chem|st | some gossip says Jolla is a rescue Jolla and will come back in 2016... | 23:15 |
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