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gogetaguys good morning07:53
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coderusmoo08:14
faenilmoo coderus08:15
faenilhow you doing08:15
coderuswakeuping08:16
coderus:)08:16
faenil:D08:16
matrixxstillasleep08:17
faenilEWAKINGUP08:17
ruskie*yawn*08:17
sharpneliSIGALRM08:18
faenilhehe08:18
gogetai got my dmesg full of this shit08:19
gogeta[51807.548750] sps:BAM 0x124c2000 enabled: ver:0x5, number of pipes:608:19
coderushad some nightmares during this night :D08:19
faenilcoderus, Google bought Jolla? :D08:19
coderusfaenil: no :)08:20
fluxthey did?! I gotta tweet about that!08:21
faenilhaha08:21
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gogetawho really know about ccds ans sensors ?08:42
gogetaI'm looking on camera specs of jolla phone08:42
clauI see with pkcon there's an update for aptoide, however it doesn't appear in Store. Is this normal?08:42
gogetaand compared to an iphone 408:42
gogetaimages from jolla sucks08:42
gogetabut specs from omnivision are equal08:42
gogetaor better08:42
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gogetajust software tricks08:43
gogetaor their camera sensor are better ?08:43
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Nicd-the iphone sensor is probably a lot better08:48
ggabrielo/08:49
ggabrielcybette: ?08:50
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gogetaNicd-: I think just for 5 and 5s they are made by sony09:13
gogetabut 4 is a common ovs88xx09:13
gogetathe crazy idea try to change sensor09:13
gogetabut is out mind and out of my possibilities09:14
gogetaI hope next j-phone09:14
gogetawas rock solid and premium ...09:14
gogetabetter display09:15
faenil2nd phone will still be a bit of a testground imho09:15
faenilbut it will improve over the first, of course :)09:15
gogetafaenil: stress test09:15
gogetanot testing in lab09:15
gogetaof course you can't compare 100 vs 100k09:16
faenilit's "only" the 2nd device afterall09:17
faenilbig companies make a lot of them09:17
gogetano the 3rd09:17
faenil?09:17
gogetast powered j-phone09:17
faenilnot sure how much finalized that was09:20
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faenilbut yeah, could be09:20
gogetafaenil: shutdown irc client and study09:22
faenil:D09:24
faenilI'm working on it ;)09:24
gogetatvb09:25
faenillol09:26
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chem|stfedex is awesome! phone did not move for 48h09:44
fluxit would be fun for delivered phones to have software running logging the accelerometer in some super-low-power mode ;-)09:45
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rangoyflux: i would be surprised if noone has tried something like this before09:57
fluxit may have been, at least it's been done with hidden cameras09:58
fluxbut it hasn't been done en masse09:58
fluxby a company for tracking their sent merchanise by using said merchandise itself09:58
flux(afaik)09:58
rangoyah09:59
rangoythat would be cool10:00
rangoyhttp://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/tests/which-shipping-company-is-kindest-to-your-packages10:00
AL13N_workmy Jolla should be delivered shortly to you guys10:02
AL13N_workit's since 1h ago in the truck10:02
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chem|stAL13N_work: $count_of_care_in_channel = 010:29
AL13N_workprobably10:30
AL13N_workcare are not devs, aren't they10:31
AL13N_workpls they don't want to be badgered when they are already highly pressured10:31
AL13N_workstill not delivered though... i don't know how far vantaa is from helsinki, bth10:32
AL13N_work*tbh10:32
AL13N_workplus other deliveries i presume10:32
LarstiQAL13N_work: well, they are bordering cities, so 010:32
AL13N_workheh10:33
LarstiQbut if it's at customs in Vantaa, it can take a while10:33
ppif it's in the hands of itella, 0-3000 hours or so10:33
AL13N_workthey said "on fedex truck for delivery"10:33
LarstiQor that :)10:33
ppwe got a notification for a parcel on the day before midsummer eve that had arrived on the 2nd...10:33
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ppand it went back on tuesday at 8am since we didn't pick it up on time :-)10:34
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rangoyWould this do any good for the jolla/android implementation: https://github.com/microg10:38
rangoy"The μg Project aims to provide a free, fully compatible replacement of the often used proprietary GAPPS package by Google."10:39
AL13N_worksounds like someone wants a feature app request10:39
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ppnice10:53
pppreferably get amazon and nokia^Wmsft behind it :P10:54
pp(dunno how much they actually need gapps replacements)10:54
rangoyit seems like a start at least10:55
chem|stAL13N_work: according to fedex, my device is still on the truck and has not moved for +48h10:56
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rangoymicrog could be something for http://www.myriadgroup.com/products/device-solutions/mobile-software/alien-dalvik/11:00
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AL13N_workchem|st: did you check if it was delivered anyway with care?11:32
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AL13N_workchem|st: mine is delivered, i think you should interfere with the shipping process for yours11:33
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eye_a_uk_Jolla )0!1@11:49
Nicd-?11:50
fluxchem|st, just call to your device and ask folks around it what's happening11:50
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AL13N_workflux: haha, good one12:07
AL13N_workexcept that they ask to turn the phone off during delivery12:07
AL13N_workNicd-: i can't read that smiley12:07
AL13N_workmaybe a horned version of O@ with a moustache12:08
AL13N_workor something12:08
AL13N_workcrooked moustache12:08
AL13N_workand thick lips12:08
AL13N_workor a broken nose12:08
AL13N_workcyclops?12:08
AL13N_workunibrow cyclops with broken nose, moustache and mouth into @12:09
AL13N_workpretty specific smiley if you ask me12:09
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edgarsaaaaaaaaaaaaaa12:22
edgarstrick with paper and battery not working :/12:23
edgarshelped for a week or so12:23
tbredgars: try to clean battery and pins, avoid finger grease, take out battery for 10min.12:25
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edgarstrick with 10 minutes does not helps too12:26
chem|stAL13N_work: it is on its way back, so it was picked up at vantaa but did not move since, usually you get the inbound scan when it arrives at a center listed too but nothing so far12:27
chem|stif my device comes back with that reboot issue I gonna send it right back!12:29
edgarswill try to clean pins12:29
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AL13N_worktbh, i removed the paper about a week before shipping anyway, and i didn't have it since i updated, but there was not enough time for it to mean something12:39
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edgarsand btw12:55
edgarsi know at leas one place where in 95% im sure that phone whill reboot while im talking :)12:57
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cybetteggabriel: you called?13:09
ggabrielcybette: yeah :)13:14
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ggabrieljust saying that i'll be in helsinki 13 mar until 14 mar 201513:14
cybetteggabriel: oh cool! i mean cold! it'll probably be really cold then :D but welcome!13:15
ggabrielthat's the idea13:15
ggabrielthen we go to kuopio, where it'll be colder13:15
ggabrieland some skiing through the woods13:15
ggabrielbut if anybody's available that fri i may be up for a drink or two13:16
cybetteright! I remember your skiing plans13:16
ggabrieli'll be with friends13:16
cybettesure :) might be better to ping me/us again closer to the dates13:16
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ggabrieli'll shout again closer to the date, i realize that the notice is way too british13:16
cybette:D13:16
ggabrielok, great minds think alike13:16
cybettewas about to say that ^ too ;)13:16
LarstiQcybette: that's assuming the weather doesn't get any weirder :/13:23
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jmlichHi, I was trying to create an app with Slider {} component. In development mode, the shader effect (glow?) doesn't work well.  The TimePicker {} component have similar problems..13:23
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Nicd-jmlich: use #sailfishos for dev stuff13:24
jmlichok13:24
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cybetteLarstiQ: that's true. we've had snow and hail in June now, who knows what will happen in March :P13:34
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LarstiQcybette: indeed, and this year the winter was mild too13:34
tbrhopefully real winter13:34
tbrnot like last time...13:35
LarstiQanyway, off to sauna13:35
cybetteyeap I didn't get to wear my michelin man jacket13:35
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cybettealright I have a heavily spiked drink in my hand now, better afk13:37
cybetteggabriel: looking forward to seeing you again next year, fingers crossed for good skiing weather13:37
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MoritzJTUA issue or sf browser nightly issue? https://metacrane.com/f/MoritzJT/11201/20140627163341.png15:02
MoritzJTshould be fullscreen. Who to talk to, bahn.de or Jolla?15:03
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phdeswerI would say this behaviour is something wrong on the website. But well I don't dare to exclude the Jolla browser either as in webcat it seems fine.15:06
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chem|stargl.... I need a way to de-follow things I edited on tjc15:59
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ruskiehmmm I must say I'm very happy with the UX on the jolla16:16
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oh8gnzI'm also happy with battery16:17
oh8gnzmy better half has lumia 820 and it's battery is empty in about 50% of time of my jolla16:17
oh8gnzsometime even in 25%16:17
chem|struskie: good to hear16:17
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kimmoliok, contacted care about loudspeaker audio-lost issue, problem reappeared middle of ringtone, and sounds came back after light tap on screen.17:54
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* cb400f retries some android appz that failed miserably back in January, but seem to do a lot better now :-)18:34
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ruskieis there some way to set a default browser?19:44
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ruskiealso love the settings for apps... I just wish all apps used that19:44
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M4rtinKruskie: some architectural issues currently prevent that IIRC19:47
M4rtinKruskie: (apps using the system settings menu)19:47
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M4rtinKit should be possible in some unspecified fad future :)19:48
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ruskienow to see if I can bring my auto profile changer from n900 to this19:51
ruskiesweet can use the same script I did there19:52
ruskieand fcron already avaialble19:52
cb400fI was looking at some stats for mobile browsing in Denmark.. N900 usage was still pretty widespread :-)19:53
cb400fhttp://rankings.dk/en/rankings/mobile-devices-models.html <-- #14 ... 0,36% marketshare.. more than e.g. Lumia 800 or nexus 719:55
ruskiehmm fcrontab editin doesn't seem to wanna work19:55
M4rtinKnote that Upstart has been replaced by Systemd on Sailfish OS20:03
M4rtinKN900 is using Upstart20:03
ruskieI'm aware20:03
M4rtinKcould influence things20:04
ruskiejust having some odd stuff20:04
ruskiemight be more a permissions issue than anything20:04
M4rtinKIIRC Systemd has some built in support for cron-like timers20:04
M4rtinKyeah20:04
ruskiecould not change egid to 117: Operation not permitted20:06
ruskiethat's what's atm the issues20:06
M4rtinKno idea about that20:07
ruskieshould really add strace to this thing20:09
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ruskiewell might have shoehorned stuff in20:17
ruskiewill see20:17
ruskiehmm I couldn't establish mobile internet connection20:17
ruskiestill can't infact20:18
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ruskieam I missing something here or is there some reason I can't establish a mobile data connection?20:21
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ruskieahh sorted fcron20:30
ruskiewas in the comment20:30
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ruskiehmm seems like missing settings for my internet stuff20:41
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djkinetic\21:19
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inte`has anybody managed FDE on Jolla?21:49
inte`I just saw truecrypt is available on openrepos21:49
inte`https://openrepos.net/content/nieldk/truecrypt21:49
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ruskieand I learned something new about jolla... how to edit settings for mobile network22:06
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ShadowJKwow, how22:07
ruskielong press on the menu item22:08
ruskieand down pops a submenu22:08
ruskiewith edit22:08
ruskieto bad I figured that out after I edited /var/lib/ofono/operatorstuffehere/gprs file22:09
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intelol:)22:12
ruskiestill was easier to copy paste via ssh22:12
ruskiehopefully will get the privacy screen protector in a couple of days as well22:13
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intewhat do you need that for?23:01
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