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| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/20/google_and_microsoft_agree_to_add_remote_kill_switch_to_smartphones/ <-- so glad I'm not using either android, apple or microsoft for my phone needs | 05:56 |
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| Stskeeps | well | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | if you loose your lock code, you're screwed re a jolla too | 05:57 |
| ruskie | yeah but that's on me | 05:57 |
| ruskie | not on vendor/cellco | 05:58 |
| rangoy | What happened to GPS and android in last release? I copied the gps.default.so as suggested in https://together.jolla.com/question/45966/bug-android-apps-lose-gps-fix-when-in-background-since-107/ and that seems to help | 05:59 |
| rangoy | But is that "safe"? | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | i .. don't know, android stuff is a bit external to me | 05:59 |
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| ruskie | hmmm in my jolla order it says 24% VAT for Slovenia... is VAT calculated per country or is that just the finish VAT? | 06:02 |
| ruskie | it's just a bit confusing | 06:02 |
| Stskeeps | the rules for selli=ng a=re =qu=ite =conf=using | 06:02 |
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| tbr | ruskie: if it's not a B2B sale, the vat of the country of residence of the selling country applies AFAIU | 06:09 |
| tbr | country/party on the second occurence | 06:09 |
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| rangoy | When i ordered my phone i got it to norway without VAT. I think i've should have paid Norwegian VAT when it crossed the border, but it never came? | 06:12 |
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| rangoy | (the bill never came) | 06:13 |
| Stskeeps | prolly will come when you least need it :P | 06:13 |
| ruskie | tbr, ok it's just odd that it says Slovenia(24%) considering we have 22% | 06:15 |
| rangoy | Stskeeps: probably, but's been half a year now | 06:15 |
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| pp | rangoy: "use this phone if you have something to declare" ;) | 06:26 |
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| pp | I'd guess they should use finnish vat for consumer eu orders (unless they have enough sales to one country etc.) | 06:27 |
| rangoy | pp: :) | 06:30 |
| rangoy | My guess is that some mixup happened when fedex got a norwegian deliverer to transport it within norway. none of them knew who was responsible for asking for the VAT | 06:31 |
| ruskie | hehe | 06:31 |
| rangoy | it will probably come with large pileup of interest when my phone is already dead in ten years | 06:32 |
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| ruskie | not likely | 06:34 |
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| mfulz | does someone know if the caldav is working with horde? | 06:56 |
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| mfulz | It finds my calendar but it is not creating it in the calendar app nor synching anythin | 07:13 |
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| tango_ | /r/android discussing the android launcher by jolla http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/28k0yl/the_nokia_team_microsoft_didnt_buy_has_made_an/ | 08:15 |
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| Stskeeps | i don't see jolla mentioned anywhere? | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | you mean by the remaining nokia | 08:16 |
| leinir | Yeah, ZLauncher is a different thing, sorry :) | 08:17 |
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| tango_ | oh damn | 08:19 |
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| tango_ | I only saw the title and thought it was talking about the sf launcher 8-/ | 08:20 |
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| leinir | nope | 08:20 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning, btw :P | 08:32 |
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| leinir | indeed :) | 08:33 |
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| mfulz | is someone using horde togehter with the caldav account? | 08:45 |
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| locusf | what is this tart daemon that I see running on Jolla, it seems to resposible on using theme daemon? | 09:21 |
| w00t | tart daemon? :p | 09:22 |
| locusf | Jun 20 12:16:13 Jolla tart[3821]: [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:176 - Unknown theme image: "graphic-interface-rounded-corner" | 09:23 |
| * phdeswer has no such daemon. Must be some app | 09:23 | |
| w00t | name got truncated, I would guess. grep for the pid | 09:23 |
| w00t | we don't have a theme daemon ('local' means 'no daemon') | 09:24 |
| raa700 | must be nsa then | 09:24 |
| locusf | voicecall-ui | 09:24 |
| locusf | voicecall-ui -prestart <- theres the tart | 09:24 |
| SK_work | damn | 09:25 |
| locusf | my glacier homescreen users are experiencing odd symptoms in the application uninstallation, they can't see the icon-uninstall-app icon which should be overlayed on top of application icons | 09:25 |
| SK_work | I was hoping for a daemon that makes tarts | 09:25 |
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| locusf | I am using my own local themedaemon on glacier homescreen | 09:26 |
| Jonni | themedaemon stuff usually happends on harmattan apps that have been ported to sailfish. | 09:26 |
| locusf | and yes I have big fat warnings that it might break stuff so they have been warned :p | 09:27 |
| locusf | yeah its the image://theme url image provider | 09:27 |
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| raa700 | SK_work: you need tartOH for that | 09:30 |
| locusf | this stuff is usually handled by the silica-booster tbh, I don't know why lipstick might want to touch it | 09:30 |
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| locusf | Jun 20 12:16:06 Jolla lipstick[3764]: [D] MLocalThemeDaemonClient::readImage:176 - Unknown theme image: "graphic-interface-rounded-corner" | 09:31 |
| locusf | this missing icon is due to glacier homescreen users switching back to lipstick-jolla-home | 09:31 |
| Atleta | Hi guys! Anybody knows the Sailfish OS - Nokia N9 port will be update in the future? | 09:32 |
| Atleta | I can't find any informations in the forums... | 09:32 |
| AL13N_work | hmm, does this mean Nokia stole the android launcher from Jolla? | 09:33 |
| SK_work | they made their own | 09:33 |
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| SK_work | AL13N_work: no :) | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | just silly coincidence of doing it same day | 09:34 |
| Atleta | what colour of launcher? :-) | 09:34 |
| Atleta | so the aswer is: we don't know? | 09:36 |
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| AL13N_work | Stskeeps: same day? i didn't see any publication yet | 10:00 |
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| Stskeeps | well, announce | 10:00 |
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| stephg | AL13N_work: the nokia one was announced, the jolla one was annouced as an alpha on TJC | 10:08 |
| AL13N_work | oic, any link? | 10:10 |
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| stephg | https://together.jolla.com/question/47655/jolla-launcher-community-alpha-testing-begins-next-week/ | 10:10 |
| AL13N_work | thanks | 10:11 |
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| rangoy | What's release 10.7.18? | 10:38 |
| special | connman hotfix | 10:39 |
| special | https://together.jolla.com/question/45026/hotfix-opt-in-hotfix-for-connectivity-in-upcoming-update-7/ | 10:39 |
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| rangoy | special: ok. thanks | 10:45 |
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| tango_ | I'm wondering if should opt in to the connman hotfix | 11:15 |
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| tango_ | I've had this "exclamation point in the wifi icon" thing happening onmy home network (that used to work flawlessly before the latest general upgrade) | 11:15 |
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| tango_ | a reboot seems to have fixed it (for the time being) | 11:15 |
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| rangoy | i've also seen som issues with last update (.16) and connectivity | 11:45 |
| special | well, consider opting in to the hotfix and see if they're solved | 11:46 |
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| rangoy | is it possible to "opt back"? | 11:53 |
| special | the last paragraph of that together post explains how | 11:53 |
| rangoy | ah... tldr | 11:54 |
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| ballock | bug: two alarms named "Alarm" set to the same time. When you run the second, the first one lits. When you enable both and disable the second, the first one gets disabled first. | 12:10 |
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| gexc | does all-day events in the calendar appear in the event screen? | 12:30 |
| Nicd- | event screen? | 12:30 |
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| gexc | notification screen? | 12:30 |
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| SK_work | gexc: no | 12:37 |
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| gexc | :-/ | 12:38 |
| gexc | so the calendar app needs to stay open for viewing today's events? | 12:39 |
| Yaniel | it doesn't even autoupdate when the day changes :( | 12:39 |
| gexc | wat | 12:40 |
| Yaniel | the active day does not change (the one whose events are shown) | 12:41 |
| gexc | O_O | 12:41 |
| Yaniel | I expected it to change if it was showing 'today' | 12:41 |
| Yaniel | and all-day events seem to get an extra 23h duration on the jolla | 12:42 |
| gexc | sounds funny... | 12:42 |
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| locusf | could someone from Jolla tell me what appControl.isUninstallable() function does in order to determine why an application is uninstallable? | 13:58 |
| locusf | since I have noticed that when switching back from glacier-home to jolla-home, all applications become non-uninstallable | 13:59 |
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| ggabriel | locusf: try #sailfishos or mailing list maybe | 14:03 |
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| special | locusf: you're clobbering /usr/share/lipstick/lipstick.conf. | 14:04 |
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| sledges | ballock: DrainBamaged: ggabriel: stephg: vgrade: lbt: after meetup we're going to the nearby Seabright Arms, they haven't got working TVs there :D (just got info from #london-hack-space ) | 14:25 |
| DrainBamaged | o/ | 14:25 |
| lbt | no TV - excellent! | 14:25 |
| sledges | yep, they have TVs, but like this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/fishies_go_pook/11274986506 | 14:26 |
| stephg | ooh I know someone that lives above the Seabright (assuming it's the same one) | 14:26 |
| stephg | we're going east right? | 14:26 |
| DrainBamaged | Ah good, I like no TVs | 14:26 |
| DrainBamaged | I don't even own a TV :-D | 14:26 |
| DrainBamaged | I hope they've taken the Christmas Tree down though... | 14:26 |
| sledges | stephg: yes | 14:27 |
| ballock | hmmm... I might still own a machine that hooks up to this "TV" | 14:27 |
| stephg | eccelente | 14:28 |
| ballock | (not taking it though) | 14:28 |
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| sledges | ballock: readying for the trip? :) | 14:34 |
| DrainBamaged | sledges - I have my first 'Masters' IAM session tomorrow morning | 14:40 |
| DrainBamaged | Goodness knows how my driving will change after this :P | 14:40 |
| ballock | sledges: I think I am | 14:43 |
| locusf | special: yes I probably am | 14:49 |
| sledges | DrainBamaged: lol! will be interesting indeed :)) | 14:58 |
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| locusf | special: yes that was it, thanks :) | 15:17 |
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| mattaustin | Hi all. I just reset my device (using the option in settings, not via telnet). I can't connect to my Jolla account, and the website seems down - is this a known outage? | 15:53 |
| mattaustin | Without connecting to a jolla account, I can't update from 1.0.0.5 :/ | 15:54 |
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| sledges | stephg: how would the parking look around the venue? | 16:16 |
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| clau | what's the recommended way to fully clear .vault? | 18:46 |
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| Nicd- | could try deleting it? | 18:49 |
| Nicd- | well, moving it somewhere else | 18:49 |
| Nicd- | then move it back if everything crashes | 18:49 |
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| clau | oh well, someone's got to try it :) | 18:51 |
| kimmoli_sailing_ | does someone have device.with zero backups? | 18:51 |
| kimmoli_sailing_ | is vault empty then? | 18:52 |
| clau | renamed it and doing backup right now | 18:52 |
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| clau | backup done, copying to sd | 18:54 |
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| clau | heh, new .vault is just slightly bigger | 18:58 |
| clau | so it was probably already pretty much cleaned and packed | 18:59 |
| clau | ok, it seems it's working fine now: if I delete all the backups size drops significantly | 19:00 |
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| coderus | kimmoli_sailing_: i have zero backups | 19:09 |
| coderus | valut have some git configuration info | 19:09 |
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| kimmoli | maybe it just git inits if it is nonexisting | 19:11 |
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| stephg | sledges: apologies only just saw this: re parking, most everywhere should be free parking on a Sunday but the specifics I don't know | 22:04 |
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| sledges | stephg: awesome, i think we're all good ^_^ | 22:08 |
| sledges | cheers mate! :) | 22:08 |
| stephg | :) | 22:09 |
| stephg | sledges: also, streetview ftw ;) | 22:12 |
| peppelakappa | good evening guys | 22:12 |
| vgrade | \o | 22:12 |
| stephg | evening vgrade | 22:13 |
| stephg | evening peppelakappa | 22:13 |
| sledges | stephg: DrainBamaged did exactly that ;) but we couldn't find a enough zoomeable news stand :D | 22:13 |
| sledges | ahoy la fellas! | 22:13 |
| stephg | sledges: you should be able to zoom in to at least *one* of those parking restriction signs ;) | 22:14 |
| sledges | stephg: we did | 22:14 |
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| sledges | but meant to say about how old the photos are :D | 22:15 |
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| sledges | by seeing latest headlines :)) | 22:15 |
| stephg | "We have a yard with ample parking available accessible through our back gate in Emma Street. It's free to park here if you're visiting the space, but you shouldn't leave your car here for more than an hour or two if you're not around." | 22:15 |
| stephg | https://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/447_Hackney_Road/Getting_There | 22:15 |
| stephg | on a Sunday that'd shirley be find | 22:15 |
| stephg | fine | 22:15 |
| stephg | even | 22:15 |
| sledges | oh yes, and don't call me shirley | 22:16 |
| sledges | well found thanks! :D | 22:16 |
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| stephg | ;) | 22:16 |
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| DrainBamaged | Me? Doing clever things? | 22:37 |
| DrainBamaged | It's just not in my nickname :D | 22:38 |
| sledges | join the crew :D | 22:39 |
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| Jartza | I've just done clever things with attiny85 lately | 22:50 |
| Jartza | too little time with my Jolla | 22:50 |
| Jartza | although I just connected my Jolla to attiny85... using sort of modem :) | 22:50 |
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| Jartza | so transferring data via audio | 22:50 |
| stephg | cool | 22:51 |
| sledges | nice | 22:51 |
| Jartza | 12kbps transfer rate, average | 22:51 |
| Jartza | using only one pin on attiny85 and 254 bytes of code :) | 22:51 |
| Jartza | of course it works from other devices as well, as long as they have headphone-connector | 22:52 |
| Jartza | though it's only one-way currently, but planning to make it two-way | 22:53 |
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| stephg | right, is bed tiem. G'night folks catch you in the morning | 22:56 |
| sledges | ideas for TOH Jartza ? :) | 22:56 |
| sledges | stephg: nn! | 22:56 |
| Jartza | sledges: not sure yet :) | 22:56 |
| stephg | zzzzzz ;) | 22:56 |
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| sledges | zz:) | 22:57 |
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| sledges | Jartza: yet another (who-couldve-thought) data connection to other half :D | 22:57 |
| Jartza | :D | 22:57 |
| Jartza | I think the most amazing part of the modem is the simplicity of the code | 22:58 |
| Jartza | and also the fact that the audio can also be packed to mp3 | 22:58 |
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| sledges | @12kbps ;) | 22:58 |
| Jartza | well, 24kbps if you use stereo :D | 22:59 |
| sledges | :D | 22:59 |
| Jartza | but it doesn't require external crystal to attiny | 22:59 |
| sledges | so what clocks? | 22:59 |
| Jartza | and it auto-adapts to 4kbps-12kbps | 22:59 |
| Jartza | I've tried 8Mhz and 16Mhz, but I guess it could work with 1Mhz too | 23:00 |
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| Jartza | well. I just personally needed a simple way to transfer data to attiny, using minimum amount of io-pins and cheapest possible hw :) | 23:01 |
| Jartza | this uses 2 resistors, 2 diodes and 2 capacitors | 23:01 |
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| sledges | :) i wonder what's on your inventor's mind in the end :D | 23:02 |
| Jartza | of course it would work with other avrs too | 23:02 |
| Jartza | like other attinys and atmegas etc. | 23:02 |
| Jartza | arduino and stuff | 23:02 |
| Jartza | I could've actually "easily" made it up to 32kbit/s with stereo, but without auto-adapt | 23:04 |
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| Jartza | but I wanted it to be simple and reliable, so 12kbps was enough | 23:04 |
| * sledges nods | 23:04 | |
| Jartza | and I'll eventually opensource it when it's "done" | 23:04 |
| sledges | \o/ | 23:04 |
| Jartza | with explanation and schematics | 23:04 |
| sledges | nightn! | 23:15 |
| Jartza | yeah, off to sleep too... nighies | 23:17 |
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