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| johnny_net | Hello, I cannot connect to my jolla using SSH. All I get is a "conneciton refused error". | 01:20 |
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| mattaustin | Is https://account.jolla.com/ down for everyone else? I've been unable to access/sign in for over half a day... I reset my device and now I can't upgrade or use the store. | 02:39 |
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| bef0rd | it loads here, can't remember my credentials though | 02:49 |
| mattaustin | bef0rd: Interesting, I just get a blank page and an http 504 error. I even tried from my server in the US with the same result. | 02:53 |
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| faenil | morning | 08:23 |
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| kimmoli | GM. About the reboot issues and the battery-folded-paper-fix. Did someone collect battery dimension? On my phones, the battery fits so tight, that there is hardly space for single layer of normal 80g paper | 08:59 |
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| kimmoli | i dont know where my caliper is... | 09:00 |
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| mikma | that was exactly my problem also | 09:01 |
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| mikma | also the reason why i had problems putting the paper in there | 09:01 |
| tbr | kimmoli: something that I'd try instead would be to ensure low impedance contact between battery and pins. e.g. by gently brushing them off and making sure there is no (finger-)grease on either | 09:04 |
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| kimmoli | i have no problems with that. no reboots. just wondering why adding the paper there helps for some cases | 09:09 |
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| kimmoli | does the battery shrink over time? | 09:10 |
| kimmoli | :) | 09:10 |
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| _CvP_ | you mean capatity or dimension ? :) | 09:12 |
| _CvP_ | kimmoli: | 09:12 |
| TemeV | I'd guess contacts sink inside the battery which makes connection worse | 09:12 |
| TemeV | but it is pure guess | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | just remember: if you hit reboot or shutdown issues, contact care.. | 09:13 |
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| Stskeeps | if they're kernel crashes, different department.. :P | 09:16 |
| kimmoli | contacts on phone side are spring-loaded... but those could benefit to have redundant contacts like some sony ericsson models use iirc | 09:16 |
| mattaustin | Can anyone also confirm if https://account.jolla.com/ is returning an http 504 response? I haven't been able to connect for nearly a day now, and can't update my phone I reset. | 09:17 |
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| TemeV | mattaustin: works fine here | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | sdjayna: ^ | 09:18 |
| kimmoli | works for me | 09:18 |
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| sdjayna | Stskeeps: mattaustin: yeah, checking what's going on | 09:18 |
| mattaustin | Thanks all. A bit strange. I've tried different browsers, a 'wget' from my US web server, and only get a 504 reply. Maybe a routing issue from Australia/US? | 09:20 |
| mattaustin | Picked a bad time to factory-reset my phone :) | 09:21 |
| sdjayna | mattaustin: hones answer is that we've probably got a broken instance in our load-balancer, i'm runinng through and verifying them all.. | 09:21 |
| sdjayna | honest* | 09:21 |
| mattaustin | sdjayna: Ah great, thanks :) | 09:21 |
| Teme | anyone using Opera Mobile on alien dalvik? i'd want to install adblock (and other extensions) but can't seem to figure out how. getting just a notification that no apps can handle .oex file format | 09:22 |
| sdjayna | mattaustin: give it a try now, just in a browser if you could.. | 09:27 |
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| mattaustin | sdjayna: Working :D | 09:28 |
| sdjayna | mattaustin: cool, yeah busted instance, need to improve our monitoring…thanks for pointing it out, much appreciated | 09:28 |
| mattaustin | sdjayna: No worries, thank you! | 09:29 |
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| ggabriel | o/ | 15:48 |
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| faenil_ | o/ | 15:48 |
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| ggabriel | my jolla got permanently locked today | 15:50 |
| ggabriel | ...in my pocket | 15:50 |
| faenil_ | awesome | 15:50 |
| Nicd- | lock code limit? | 15:51 |
| ggabriel | i assume | 15:51 |
| ggabriel | altho of course must have happened in the pocket | 15:51 |
| Nicd- | :( | 15:51 |
| ggabriel | which would be a bug, but the end is the same | 15:51 |
| Nicd- | care time | 15:51 |
| tango_ | ggabriel: PUK time? | 15:51 |
| ggabriel | i wonder if this works https://together.jolla.com/question/41823/howto-permanent-device-lock-recover-your-data-onto-sdcard-if-you-know-the-pin/ | 15:51 |
| ggabriel | tango_: PUK? | 15:51 |
| tango_ | ggabriel: oh it's the device lock, not the pin | 15:52 |
| tango_ | ok | 15:52 |
| ggabriel | yeah | 15:52 |
| tango_ | ggabriel: sims have an emergency recovery code for when you run out of pin tries | 15:52 |
| tango_ | it's called PUK IIRC | 15:52 |
| ggabriel | tango_: yeah, i thought you meant that | 15:52 |
| tango_ | but of course this is not relevant in your case | 15:52 |
| ggabriel | but never had such a thing in the sim card | 15:52 |
| ggabriel | no, and it pains me to have to ship the device somewhere | 15:53 |
| ggabriel | i wonder if the folks that come to london tomorrow have the power to unlock :P | 15:53 |
| Nicd- | probably not | 15:53 |
| Nicd- | and they probably can't verify your ownership/identity | 15:54 |
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| ggabriel | true | 15:54 |
| ggabriel | altho at least one of them saw me with it before :P | 15:54 |
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| ggabriel | uhm... does a factory reset remove the permanently locked screen? | 16:20 |
| Nicd- | can you even factory reset it without the lock code? | 16:20 |
| Nicd- | I thought you couldn't | 16:20 |
| ggabriel | this guy suggests you can: https://together.jolla.com/question/41823/howto-permanent-device-lock-recover-your-data-onto-sdcard-if-you-know-the-pin/ | 16:20 |
| ggabriel | I _know_ the code | 16:20 |
| ggabriel | it's just something gone wrong in my pocket | 16:20 |
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| Nicd- | yeah, but if you reached the limit, you can't input it anymore | 16:21 |
| Nicd- | the limit wouldn't be of much use otherwise | 16:22 |
| ggabriel | well, if the recovery menu still is accessible, it asks for the code | 16:22 |
| ggabriel | maybe it works there | 16:22 |
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| iSanttu | hi | 16:22 |
| ggabriel | but it'd defeat the purpose of the limit | 16:22 |
| ggabriel | because it'd be very easy to brute force it | 16:22 |
| Nicd- | exactly | 16:22 |
| ggabriel | tbh, at this stage i'm hoping for a backdoor like that :) | 16:22 |
| iSanttu | anyone know hoe to get kik messenger work for jolla? | 16:22 |
| Nicd- | so I'm assuming it won't ask for the code | 16:22 |
| iSanttu | anyone know ? | 16:23 |
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| iSanttu | hello?? | 16:25 |
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| iSanttu | :( | 16:26 |
| ggabriel | iSanttu: fwiw, i have no idea what you're talking about | 16:26 |
| Nicd- | iSanttu: have you tried the android version? | 16:26 |
| iSanttu | i downloaded it from aptoide apps | 16:27 |
| iSanttu | and when i try log in it says this take too long | 16:27 |
| Nicd- | dunno anything to try if it doesn't work by default | 16:28 |
| iSanttu | but jolla is native ? | 16:28 |
| faenil__ | ggabriel, recovery has a limit as well | 16:29 |
| Nicd- | what do you mean by that? | 16:29 |
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| ggabriel | faenil__: ah, ok, so if the limit is different, i could factory reset it | 16:29 |
| ggabriel | the question is whether that'll reset the permanent lock too | 16:29 |
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| faenil__ | not sure, I'd say they use the same "counter" but let's see | 16:29 |
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| ggabriel | i'm in the process of backing up :P | 16:30 |
| faenil__ | ggabriel, quite sure it won't | 16:30 |
| faenil__ | (reset the counter) | 16:30 |
| ggabriel | it's risky as at least i have ssh access to it now | 16:30 |
| faenil__ | but well, I hope for you there's a bug that allows you to do that :) | 16:30 |
| faenil__ | yeah.. | 16:30 |
| ggabriel | i opened a case... | 16:30 |
| ggabriel | it's annoying that it was a bug anyway | 16:30 |
| faenil__ | well, you can always "factory-reset" in house | 16:30 |
| ggabriel | and i'm hoping they'll believe me | 16:30 |
| faenil__ | without using the built in function | 16:30 |
| ggabriel | what do you mean by factory reset in house? | 16:31 |
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| faenil__ | ggabriel, well, without using the built in stuff ;) | 16:33 |
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| ggabriel | ok, maybe i don't know how to do that | 16:34 |
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| faenil__ | ggabriel, no problem ;) | 16:34 |
| ggabriel | shame the bootloader isn't unlocked | 16:34 |
| ggabriel | as i have a backup of all the partitions from day 1 | 16:34 |
| ggabriel | that'd most likely reset the counter | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | try shell | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | in recovery | 16:35 |
| ggabriel | Stskeeps: it's an option if i can get there | 16:35 |
| ggabriel | tbh, i'm hoping that care@ has a way to do it remotely | 16:36 |
| faenil__ | ggabriel, ah I thought you already got into recovery shell | 16:36 |
| ggabriel | faenil__: no, still running tar :) | 16:36 |
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| faenil__ | yeah I thought you were doing that from recovery shell :p | 16:36 |
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| faenil__ | (which proved that they use a different coutner) | 16:37 |
| ggabriel | no, didn't try that just yet | 16:37 |
| faenil__ | oki | 16:37 |
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| ggabriel | i actually come from a cycle+run+cycle training session | 16:37 |
| ggabriel | which is where it got locked | 16:37 |
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| faenil__ | oh | 16:37 |
| ggabriel | i should shower+eat something :P | 16:37 |
| faenil__ | definitely :D | 16:38 |
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| faenil__ | oh noes | 16:48 |
| faenil__ | my jolla is locked on lockscreen | 16:48 |
| faenil__ | I feel the sounds | 16:48 |
| faenil__ | of the lockscreen pulley menu | 16:48 |
| faenil__ | but the UI isn't updated | 16:48 |
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| gexc | happened to me sometimes | 16:52 |
| faenil__ | yeah it's not the firs time it happens to me | 16:52 |
| gexc | heavy load? | 16:52 |
| faenil__ | nope | 16:52 |
| faenil__ | and when I swiped to go into events view, it brought me to the chat status instead | 16:53 |
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| gexc | maybe it will be gone after several lock/unlocks | 16:54 |
| gexc | hmm... | 16:54 |
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| faenil__ | no it's gone already after swiping to events view | 16:54 |
| faenil__ | I usually fix it by doing that | 16:54 |
| faenil__ | but still... | 16:54 |
| gexc | LOL | 16:55 |
| faenil__ | okay I know that something bad happened in a range of 12minutes | 16:56 |
| faenil__ | let's see if I find a hint | 16:56 |
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| faenil__ | mm don't know | 16:58 |
| faenil__ | no time to debug atm | 16:58 |
| locusf | hmm lipstick won't start | 16:58 |
| faenil__ | yay | 17:00 |
| locusf | ok now its back | 17:00 |
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| coderus | who want Firefox webapps to be implemented in sailfish-browser please vote here: https://together.jolla.com/question/47923/webapps-support-to-sailfish-browser/ | 17:42 |
| pdanek | Have you guys seen new BlackBerry phones? | 17:42 |
| pdanek | Classic and Passport models unveiled. | 17:42 |
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| Stskeeps | martini glass resting on your chest and an action movie is soo not a good mix.. | 18:02 |
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| tbr | It's bound to get you some action though | 18:06 |
| tango_ | if it's dry | 18:06 |
| tbr | thanks, now I have a craving for a dry martini… | 18:08 |
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| kimmoli | ärm. 1st bug in toheink hw... one signal not connected | 19:21 |
| tbr | time for enamelwire-fix? | 19:21 |
| kimmoli | öhm, just booted jolla which has been out of power for a while, it is still in tuesday 17th | 19:26 |
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| attah | kimmoli-version of groundhog day in the making? :) | 19:27 |
| tigeli | kimmoli: does it have sim and does it attached to a mobile network? | 19:28 |
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| tigeli | otherwise that's expected | 19:29 |
| kimmoli | yep. i know. rtc does not get power from battery when powered off. | 19:29 |
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| kimmoli | which kinda sucks | 19:29 |
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| kimmoli | but i got my picture, and found it from the past (expected it to be latest one)... https://app.younited.com/?shareObject=eff301f8-5dd0-5aa9-47b1-61fb58b89634 | 19:30 |
| kimmoli | i need to get smaller soldering tools at home... | 19:30 |
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| kimmoli | äh, some of my tools and stuff is still in a box due jolla hackday... | 19:33 |
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| arnav-g | ,/join #ubuntu-touch | 21:05 |
| arnav-g | fail | 21:05 |
| arnav-g | ./join #ubuntu-touch | 21:05 |
| arnav-g | :| | 21:06 |
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| DrainBamaged | lbt / sledges - See you tomorrow | 21:59 |
| * DrainBamaged is off to sleep | 22:00 | |
| sledges | see you! | 22:00 |
| sledges | and the rest of the crew :) | 22:00 |
| DrainBamaged | Who else will be there tomorrow? | 22:01 |
| sledges | ballock, ggabriel | 22:02 |
| sledges | vgrade ? | 22:02 |
| sledges | and whoever read the ads :) | 22:02 |
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| DrainBamaged | Kewl | 22:05 |
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| sledges | stephg will pop in briefly :) otherwise he'll be rollerbladin' ;) | 22:08 |
| kimmoli | EXTI NVIC IRQ STM ... too much abbreviations for today... GN | 22:10 |
| vgrade | sledges: I have my ticket | 22:13 |
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| sledges | vgrade: \o/ | 22:41 |
| ggabriel | i'll be there | 22:52 |
| sledges | ggabriel: you better be :D | 22:52 |
| ggabriel | need to get the address again | 22:53 |
| ggabriel | jolla bricked | 22:53 |
| sledges | fixing tomorrow? :D | 22:53 |
| ggabriel | i think cybette put it in diaspora | 22:53 |
| ggabriel | i'll bring it | 22:53 |
| ggabriel | but perm lock | 22:53 |
| sledges | http://london.hackspace.org.uk | 22:53 |
| ggabriel | ah, easier, ta | 22:53 |
| sledges | and afterwards we'll go to Sebright Arms | 22:53 |
| ggabriel | cool | 22:54 |
| sledges | and not Seabright as I've been told at first :D was very punny though :)) | 22:54 |
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| ggabriel | haha | 22:54 |
| peppelakappa | evening guys | 22:54 |
| sledges | hello peppelakappa | 22:55 |
| ggabriel | cool, i can get shell | 22:59 |
| ggabriel | worst case scenario, restore all partitions :P | 22:59 |
| ggabriel | ok, laters | 23:00 |
| sledges | ciao :) | 23:00 |
| peppelakappa | ciao :P | 23:00 |
| sledges | 6 italiano? ;) | 23:01 |
| peppelakappa | yeah | 23:01 |
| sledges | allora benvenuto :) | 23:02 |
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| peppelakappa | lol, feeling less alone :P | 23:07 |
| sledges | many many italians around ;) | 23:07 |
| sledges | good notte! :) | 23:08 |
| peppelakappa | goodnight sledges! | 23:08 |
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| plfiorini | peppelakappa, sledges: ciao ;) | 23:13 |
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| peppelakappa | italians own jolla! hahah | 23:17 |
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| sledges | at least Stefano does :)) | 23:20 |
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