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| Sailor8545_ | Good day everyone! Is it known if there will be Android apps multitasking in Jolla as well? | 10:33 |
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| Jope | they already multitask just like in android | 10:36 |
| Nicd- | if you mean separate covers for running android apps, then yes | 10:36 |
| Jope | but I guess you're asking wioll there be a separate cover | 10:36 |
| Jope | and as nicd said, yes | 10:36 |
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| Sailor8545_ | yea, separate covers | 10:37 |
| Jope | yeps, that was announced to be included in an upcoming release | 10:37 |
| Sailor8545_ | cool | 10:38 |
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| Sailor8545_ | Also, is Jolla paid by Yandex? | 10:40 |
| Nicd- | they might have a deal but it's not public information | 10:40 |
| ggabriel | not sure whether separate cover == multitask | 10:40 |
| Nicd- | well, they probably do have some sort of deal | 10:40 |
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| Nicd- | note that it's possible to remove yandex store now | 10:41 |
| w00t | ggabriel: it's certainly a lot more multitasking than there is right now :p | 10:41 |
| ggabriel | w00t: true, at least you can see something. but i don't agree with multitasking being what android does | 10:41 |
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| w00t | I don't think any of us do, that's why we're here :) | 10:42 |
| Sailor8545_ | most of end users are happy with just separate covers anyway | 10:44 |
| Sailor8545_ | I think Android cannot afford to have real multitasking, due to memory consumption | 10:45 |
| Sailor8545_ | at least not now | 10:45 |
| ggabriel | Sailor8545_: add battery consumption to that too | 10:45 |
| ggabriel | easy fix: use ms-dos's kernel instead of linux :P | 10:46 |
| w00t | all this talk about wayland and mir.. we should just write a touch based ncurses ui | 10:47 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: ^ new job for you in research | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | die | 10:47 |
| Sailor8545_ | sailfish should have no ui, just mer with cli | 10:48 |
| Sailor8545_ | and phys. keyboard | 10:48 |
| Sailor8545_ | 8bit maps | 10:49 |
| Sailor8545_ | lynx web | 10:49 |
| ggabriel | Stskeeps: the what? :) | 10:49 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: did you see the libcaca qpa plugin? | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | no | 10:49 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJyF99uqSbY | 10:49 |
| tbr | libcaca? srlsy? :D | 10:49 |
| giucam | apart the name, that's amazing | 10:50 |
| Sailor8545_ | now after you posted the link, is there any way how to automatically open yt links in yy app? | 10:50 |
| Sailor8545_ | o.O | 10:50 |
| ggabriel | i think there's a tjc for that | 10:51 |
| rangoy | http://www.tomsguide.com/us/chinese-smartphone-spyware,news-19003.html <- could this phone be bought cheap and upgraded to sailfish? | 10:51 |
| tbr | someone would need to port the spyware though ;) | 10:51 |
| rangoy | tbr: true.. maybe we have to ask the vendor. or just run it in the dalvik vm | 10:52 |
| tbr | there are so many cool things I've seen being done with libcaca, and that's another, thanks w00t. :) | 10:53 |
| w00t | my pleasure | 10:54 |
| Sailor8545_ | It's N9500, successor of N950!! | 10:54 |
| Jope | ha ha only serious http://welectronics.com/gsm/Nokia/nokia%209500%20open.jpg | 10:55 |
| Sail0r | rangoy: and what makes you sure that the spyware is gone after flashing sailfishos? Could also be a baseband spyware | 10:55 |
| * Jope had one of those when they were new | 10:55 | |
| Jope | actually it's probably still somewhere around the house | 10:56 |
| rangoy | Sail0r: can never be sure, but i guess they won't bother as the current solution is good enough | 10:56 |
| ggabriel | in fairness, the jolla may have spyware in the baseband implementation too as that's super secret and nobody has the code | 10:57 |
| Sail0r | rangoy: but even if you can get rid of the spyware why support a vendor like that ? | 10:57 |
| ggabriel | Sail0r: +1, i'd still get a jolla, but understand that not everyone can afford one | 10:59 |
| rangoy | Sail0r: my guess is that they they subsidice their phone to sell you... i guess they sell it in less than or equal to prod. cost. | 10:59 |
| Sail0r | ggabriel: there are more cheap phones :) | 10:59 |
| Sailor8545_ | would prefer portrait only device or landscape only device? | 11:05 |
| Sail0r | none of them ^^ | 11:06 |
| Sail0r | I use landscape for typing and portrait for surfing | 11:06 |
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| ggabriel | Sailor8545_: there's this switch in settings that allows you to use the jolla one way or another | 11:07 |
| ggabriel | or even dynamically | 11:07 |
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| Sailor8545_ | I know :D I am asking if one has too choose permanently one or the other | 11:08 |
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| Sailor8545_ | I'm pdanek btw | 11:08 |
| ggabriel | permanently? portrait | 11:08 |
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| ggabriel | (assuming no hw kbd) | 11:09 |
| Sailor8545_ | yea, no kbd | 11:09 |
| Sailor8545_ | I wonder where can I change nick in IRC app | 11:09 |
| Nicd- | type /nick newnick | 11:10 |
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| TemeV | pdanek: it is also in settings of the server | 11:10 |
| TemeV | long press server name -> edit | 11:11 |
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| pdanek | the settings don't have password authentication | 11:13 |
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| TemeV | password for irc server? Yes there is | 11:14 |
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| pdanek | ok set, thx | 11:15 |
| ruskie | well my jolla has been ordered | 11:15 |
| Nicd- | pdanek: are you sure you need one? | 11:15 |
| pdanek | I wonder | 11:15 |
| pdanek | hiw come even my pdanek is registered | 11:16 |
| pdanek | I was still able to use it w/o signing in | 11:16 |
| pdanek | what's the point of irc password then? | 11:16 |
| ggabriel | pdanek: so that nobody steals your nickname :P | 11:17 |
| Nicd- | pdanek: the password in the IRC server settings is the password for connecting to the server | 11:17 |
| Nicd- | freenode has no such passwords | 11:18 |
| Nicd- | NickServ for preserving your nick is entirely different | 11:18 |
| Morpog_PC__ | congrats ruskie hopefully u used a 10€ discount code | 11:18 |
| pdanek | but othet people can write with my nick | 11:18 |
| pdanek | = useless | 11:18 |
| Nicd- | pdanek: reconnecting to freenode may fail now because you set a password for the IRC server in your settings | 11:18 |
| Nicd- | NickServ on freenode does allow other people to use your nick but you can kill force them to hand it over if you identify yourself | 11:19 |
| Nicd- | s/kill force/force/ | 11:19 |
| pdanek | I use pwd for 2 years | 11:19 |
| pdanek | Nick: ah, thx | 11:19 |
| Nicd- | I repeat: the password set in the IRC app's settings is not the same thing as your NickServ password | 11:20 |
| pdanek | oh really | 11:21 |
| pdanek | so I have to always manually nsg nickserv? | 11:21 |
| pdanek | that's silly, why not somewhere in settings | 11:21 |
| Nicd- | ask venemo for that feature | 11:22 |
| Morpog_PC__ | or jpnurmi | 11:22 |
| Nicd- | IRC server passwords are part of the protocol so that's why it's in the settings. but it's not the same thing | 11:22 |
| jpnurmi | freenode actually does accept nickserv credentials at server login | 11:23 |
| ruskie | Morpog_PC__, I didn't get any discount code | 11:24 |
| jpnurmi | that's why we didn't bother adding up yet another nickserv-password field | 11:24 |
| Nicd- | jpnurmi: ooh, so they have a modification for that | 11:24 |
| Morpog_PC__ | ruskie, bad luck, you could have saved 10€ | 11:24 |
| Morpog_PC__ | now it's too late | 11:24 |
| ruskie | I already save 50eur by ordering it 2 months later than I thought I would | 11:24 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | jpnurmi, seen my message a few days ago about fastscroll? | 11:26 |
| Morpog_PC__ | in #communi | 11:26 |
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| mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/8RcQFre | 11:27 |
| jpnurmi | Morpog_PC__: yes, it's done, but i've been waiting for the harbour dudes to move the app to me so i can publish updates | 11:27 |
| Morpog_PC__ | ah, so venemo is too busy | 11:27 |
| jpnurmi | he's been busy with his studies and hasn't contributed since jan-feb anyway so... | 11:28 |
| Morpog_PC__ | sounds logical | 11:28 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | hurry up harbour guys :D | 11:28 |
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| jpnurmi | someone just needs to do some sql magic :) | 11:29 |
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| sdjayna | jpnurmi: try now | 11:46 |
| sdjayna | jpnurmi: tell me if you see it in harbour under your name | 11:46 |
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| jpnurmi | sdjayna: yes, it's there! thank you so much! :) | 11:47 |
| sdjayna | jpnurmi: should be under your name in the store now too | 11:47 |
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| TMavica | anyone tried this https://openrepos.net/content/locusf/glacier-homescreen | 11:47 |
| sdjayna | jpnurmi: sorry it took so long, if only it was just some sql.. | 11:47 |
| FireFly | Nicd-: I'm pretty sure freenode accepts nickserv password as the server password, as one alternate way of identifying | 11:47 |
| locusf | TMavica: only me :) | 11:48 |
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| TMavica | any screenshot provided is great | 11:49 |
| jpnurmi | sdjayna: np, i understand it was quite uncommon request and the highest priority tasks :) | 11:49 |
| locusf | ah sure | 11:49 |
| Nicd- | FireFly: apparently so, I didn't know that. but it's still a different thing in the general case :P | 11:50 |
| FireFly | yep | 11:50 |
| locusf | TMavica: updated openrepos page | 11:51 |
| TMavica | gd | 11:52 |
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| Nicd- | the latest computer culture magazine Skrolli (in Finnish) has a long article on how to code for Sailfish :) (this is the result: https://github.com/Acce0ss/ropedice ) | 11:53 |
| ggabriel | ah, but doesn't work with accelerometer :P | 11:54 |
| Nicd- | well you can only fit so much into an article | 11:54 |
| ggabriel | that's fine, just wanted to be the "always room for improvement" guy | 11:55 |
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| ggabriel | actually, moving the device should provide with a seed to randomise the dice better | 11:55 |
| joonahoi | you could also utilize the camera, and try to figure out the surface texture, then render the dice rolling on the surface recorded by camera ;) | 11:56 |
| ggabriel | augmented reality OH | 11:56 |
| joonahoi | :D | 11:56 |
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| TMavica | https://together.jolla.com/question/47655/jolla-launcher-community-alpha-testing-begins-next-week/ | 12:21 |
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| coderus | locusf: i didnt tried it yet, just guessing now | 12:38 |
| coderus | wrong channel... | 12:38 |
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| Nicd- | ooh! | 12:43 |
| Nicd- | you can now sell your TOHs and the recipient will get to use the ambience | 12:43 |
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| ggabriel | \o/ | 12:51 |
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| gexc | does the jolla launcher run on a jolla? | 12:54 |
| ggabriel | you can try to run it in alien dalvik | 12:55 |
| ggabriel | but why? why? | 12:55 |
| gexc | just like running a windows with a mac theme on a mac LOL | 12:55 |
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| TMavica | so TOH can be share, so rpm can be share too? LOL | 13:30 |
| ggabriel | i think that the idea is that when you sell your other half you sell the content along with it | 13:32 |
| ggabriel | sharing the rpm is, as you know, pirating | 13:32 |
| ggabriel | but hey | 13:32 |
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| gexc | TOHs can be 'borrowed', hmm... | 13:34 |
| ggabriel | where's the source for all this btw? | 13:34 |
| TMavica | borrow to others to download the ambience? | 13:34 |
| TMavica | https://together.jolla.com/question/8153/bug-unable-to-download-ambience-2nd-hand/ | 13:34 |
| ggabriel | ta | 13:34 |
| ggabriel | reading the cybette's post, looks like you can just download the content, yeah | 13:36 |
| TMavica | yes | 13:36 |
| ggabriel | uhm... | 13:36 |
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| ggabriel | looks like i can still use snow white without the other half so gg | 13:37 |
| ggabriel | not sure this allows OH's owners to just distribute the rpm's for the ambiences tho | 13:37 |
| Quu | yeah? thats how it worked from the start? | 13:37 |
| ggabriel | Quu: yes, i just never tried it before :P | 13:37 |
| Quu | oh okay D: | 13:37 |
| ggabriel | _or_ could be a new restriction | 13:37 |
| ggabriel | if OH's are to be shared | 13:37 |
| ggabriel | i dunno | 13:37 |
| Quu | someone said copying the rpm works | 13:38 |
| Quu | ~month ago | 13:38 |
| ggabriel | copying the rpm works, indeed | 13:38 |
| ggabriel | it's just not entirely legal | 13:38 |
| TMavica | Sailfish Browser Nightly in openrepos? | 13:38 |
| ggabriel | \o/ | 13:38 |
| coderus | TMavica: yes | 13:38 |
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| TMavica | is urs@@? | 13:38 |
| coderus | test please and let me know if any dependency is missing | 13:38 |
| TMavica | it will overwrite default browser or not? | 13:39 |
| coderus | its is default browser | 13:39 |
| coderus | but never version | 13:39 |
| coderus | newer* | 13:39 |
| TMavica | ok, thx!@ | 13:39 |
| TMavica | gone try | 13:39 |
| coderus | just text selection feature enabled in this build | 13:40 |
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| ggabriel | nice one | 13:40 |
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| TMavica | coderus, can u give me ur screenshot of ur folder launcher | 13:41 |
| coderus | TMavica: what you are talking about? | 13:42 |
| TMavica | um. ur folder with 4 icon, i just want the screenshot u posted before | 13:43 |
| coderus | TMavica: http://i.imgur.com/50UYe3k.png | 13:44 |
| TMavica | thx | 13:44 |
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| coderus | so, what with browser? | 13:55 |
| TMavica | coderrus so i seem need uninstall the default one to install it | 13:58 |
| TMavica | coderus | 13:59 |
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| coderus | enable repo in warehouse and check for updates | 14:01 |
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| TMavica | no update show | 14:02 |
| coderus | pkcon install sailfish-browser | 14:04 |
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| TMavica | ok | 14:05 |
| coderus | brb in 10 minutes | 14:06 |
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| TMavica | ?? | 14:15 |
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| TMavica | nil help, need uninstall and install urs | 14:22 |
| Mnsu | coderus: libxul.so seems to be missing, can't start the browser | 14:24 |
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| TMavica | if uninstall and install, sailfish-browser require sailfish setting 1.07, it cant loads the dependency included | 14:26 |
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| Mnsu | coderus: well, not sure if the libxul is related to the segmentation fault | 14:31 |
| coderus | TMavica: you not enabled/not refreshed repository | 14:31 |
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| coderus | Mnsu: show me full output | 14:32 |
| Mnsu | coderus: http://pastebin.com/E5tgN0yj | 14:33 |
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| coderus | Mnsu: you can't start it with binary only | 14:34 |
| coderus | invoker --type=qt5 -G /usr/bin/sailfish-browser | 14:34 |
| Mnsu | coderus: http://pastebin.com/62TT4GDP still the same | 14:35 |
| coderus | Mnsu: it's just fallback message, libxul is in /usr/lib/xulrunner-qt5-29.0.1/libxul.so | 14:37 |
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| coderus | ok, show me your xulrunner-qt5 and embedlite-components-qt5 versions | 14:38 |
| Mnsu | coderus: http://pastebin.com/861XiPr2 | 14:39 |
| coderus | and qtmozembed-qt5 | 14:40 |
| Mnsu | http://pastebin.com/H6xXJBpT | 14:40 |
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| coderus | aha thanks, need to upload two more packages | 14:42 |
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| coderus | Mnsu: added more packages, please test | 15:02 |
| Mnsu | coderus: works now! | 15:07 |
| coderus | cool, thanks :) | 15:11 |
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| TMavica | enabled urs repo and check update, still nil show out | 16:05 |
| Sail0r | http://thehackernews.com/2014/06/playdrone-reveals-thousands-of-secret.html | 16:06 |
| SK_work | Sail0r: thanks | 16:07 |
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| MoritzJT | Hi, has anyone managed to copy and backup stuff from /home/nemo in recovery mode to the SD-Card? | 16:48 |
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| SK_work | MoritzJT: on a Jolla ? | 16:50 |
| SK_work | I have a tutorial (in french) | 16:50 |
| SK_work | one sec | 16:50 |
| MoritzJT | I have on in english | 16:50 |
| SK_work | (french but commands are not in french :D) | 16:50 |
| MoritzJT | https://together.jolla.com/question/41823/howto-permanent-device-lock-recover-your-data-onto-sdcard-if-you-know-the-pin/ | 16:50 |
| MoritzJT | Is this the only way? CLI is a hassle XD | 16:50 |
| SK_work | MoritzJT: yes | 16:50 |
| MoritzJT | hmm damn | 16:51 |
| SK_work | good luck | 16:51 |
| MoritzJT | hopefully I can mount my exfat card there, dunno if it initializes the exfat module already | 16:51 |
| TemeV | CLI is a friend <3 | 16:51 |
| MoritzJT | otherwise, I better go for FAT | 16:51 |
| MoritzJT | I know CLI is mighty ;-) I can't execute bklid command, or am I misunderstanding? | 16:52 |
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| MoritzJT | lol | 16:52 |
| MoritzJT | It's a typo in the tutorial, it's called blkid | 16:52 |
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| tobiski | coderus: Is Mitakuuluu planned to support emoticons sent from android whatsapp? | 16:56 |
| coderus | tobiski: something wrong with emoticons? | 16:57 |
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| tobiski | coderus: I see only boxes with X in it. Now that I think of it, I probably have and old version installed >_< | 16:58 |
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| MoritzJT | I guess it's rather the emoji keyboard that installs the emoji font having trouble, just like TMavica has them | 17:05 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu dont care your fonts, it replaces known emoji mappings to images. | 17:07 |
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| MoritzJT | you're right, sorry | 17:07 |
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| kimmoli | tbr: phdeswer >> http://piratepad.nl/tVIX48DaK8 (finally time to return to this thing, writing a dbus-api to read/control gpio | 17:15 |
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| phdeswer | seems piratepad is slooow | 17:15 |
| tbr | indeeeeeed | 17:16 |
| phdeswer | Will check later when I get home. Time to start some time off. | 17:17 |
| kimmoli | yeah | 17:17 |
| kimmoli | (that was only pad i got connected to) | 17:17 |
| Stskeeps | general thought, maybe that could go into tohd? | 17:17 |
| tbr | sounds sensible, as it's toh related? | 17:17 |
| kimmoli | then get dbus signal when it toggles state? | 17:18 |
| kimmoli | can order it to wakeup or not to wakeup phone | 17:18 |
| kimmoli | can also send "force low" method to it | 17:18 |
| kimmoli | (specs) | 17:18 |
| kimmoli | was thinking would there be any timing issues... | 17:20 |
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| Sail0r | ui cool https://together.jolla.com/question/8153/answered-bug-unable-to-download-ambience-2nd-hand/#post-id-47633 | 17:26 |
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| tobiski | coderus: I had version 0.1 which I installed last december :D | 17:43 |
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| tobiski | It's all good now | 17:43 |
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| coderus | tobiski: :D | 17:58 |
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