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| Teme | and coming back to the battery life issue, i've been off the charger for 70 mins which 30 playing music, only just now fired up irc | 05:28 |
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| Teme | 100%->83% | 05:28 |
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| Teme | does not seem like what it was before u7 :\ | 05:29 |
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| Stskeeps | Teme: well, might be useful to try and track what it is | 05:30 |
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| Teme | Stskeeps: just got to the office, realized the reason: had tethering on and was using it instead of a familiar WLAN :D | 06:10 |
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| Teme | so my bad, move on everyone | 06:10 |
| Teme | i guess i was prone to suspect something is wrong since i'd seen some complaints by other users | 06:11 |
| Teme | could be they fell to the same pit :) | 06:11 |
| Aard | should we move tethering to advanced features only unlocked if you make some tests that you're capable of using your phone? :p | 06:12 |
| sharpneli | Or maybe take it as a hint that the UI could be bit more discoverable? | 06:12 |
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| Teme | yeah, i only discovered it when i could not get to intranet with my work laptop | 06:15 |
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| Teme | had no idea i had turned it on briefly last week | 06:15 |
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| Teme | just pitching an idea that there could be a "turn on for x minutes" or some notification if you've had it on for days without anyone connecting | 06:18 |
| Nicd- | windows phone turns the tethering off if it doesn't have anyone connected for x minutes | 06:21 |
| Nicd- | even that is not foolproof though, I noticed one day that it had been tethering since the morning because my ipod was connected to the phone's wlan :P | 06:21 |
| Nicd- | I had just relied on the auto-shutdown feature | 06:21 |
| Aard | we do have a kind of auto-shutdown feature -- if battery runs out the hotspot is not available anymore ;) | 06:22 |
| Teme | :D | 06:23 |
| Nicd- | hehe | 06:23 |
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| flux | aard, doesn't work if you're in the carger :( | 06:58 |
| flux | charger even | 06:58 |
| flux | maybe it could be fixed by not charging when acting as an ap?-) | 06:58 |
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| stephg | flux: works for me | 07:00 |
| stephg | you mean a charger or on a pc? | 07:00 |
| stephg | come to think of it it works for me when attached to a PC for power too | 07:01 |
| flux | I mean the automatic WLAN AP shutdown functionality won't work if you're connected to a charger. | 07:01 |
| stephg | aah | 07:01 |
| lpotter | connman does not keep track of tethering clients | 07:03 |
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| coderus | https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/aliendalvik-superuser-binary test if you want | 07:30 |
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| ggabriel | o/ | 08:19 |
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| Mirv | nice, https://marketplace.firefox.com/ installs apps normally on Jolla too (on Android's Firefox). great work from FirefoxOS people. | 09:00 |
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| Mirv | next step: the same FirefoxOS apps installation via built in gecko browser? | 09:02 |
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| stephg | Mirv: cool | 09:08 |
| slate | Stskeeps: update 7 for mako in testing stage? | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | slate: aye | 09:19 |
| slate | Great news. | 09:20 |
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| gexc | no sudden reboots for near one week without paper, hmm, good | 09:36 |
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| Nicd- | no reboots since mine got back from optima a couple of weeks ago | 09:37 |
| svuorela | I wonder what there was in the last update that seems to have fixed the speakers | 09:37 |
| * gexc is wondering what did optima do | 09:39 | |
| Nicd- | gexc: to mine? | 09:39 |
| gexc | yep | 09:39 |
| Nicd- | they replaced the SIM holder | 09:40 |
| gexc | could recent units of battery get a more 'suitable' size? | 09:40 |
| gexc | :O | 09:41 |
| gexc | so is it 'loose sim'->'high power consumption'->reboot | 09:42 |
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| Mnsu | I also removed the paper after latest update, no sudden reboots since | 09:47 |
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| Quu | iirc they changed the limits/something | 09:57 |
| Quu | to prevent shutdowns | 09:57 |
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| pdanek | My icon for Terminal disappeared --> reappeared again after reboot of Jolla. Strange. | 10:21 |
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| tbr | WTFBBQ. I had a missed call and it shows me a contact name (who most certainly did not call). If I go to the list it shows (correctly) "private number" | 11:22 |
| tbr | known bug? | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | uhh | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | special: ^ | 11:23 |
| special | tbr: so the notification is wrong, but the call history is correct? | 11:23 |
| tbr | correct | 11:23 |
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| special | have ssh access handy? | 11:24 |
| tbr | sure | 11:24 |
| tbr | I _suspect_ it took the first contact with a number... | 11:25 |
| special | pkcon install nemo-qml-plugin-contacts-qt5-tools | 11:25 |
| tbr | as the contact started with B and I don't have many entries | 11:25 |
| special | as nemo: devel-su -p; contacts-tool search "name of that contact"; contacts-tool details [id of that contact] | 11:25 |
| special | my guess is that it has a phone number detail with an empty string as a phone number | 11:26 |
| special | I thought we had prevented that case for update7, but I might have my timeline wrong (or we might have screwed it up) | 11:26 |
| tbr | ah, let's check that | 11:26 |
| Venemo_j | can the jolla open ps files? | 11:27 |
| special | hm, that should be in update7 | 11:27 |
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| special | there is a known bug that the notifications don't handle private numbers properly. But resolving it as some other contact is a different level of weird | 11:28 |
| kimmoli | different from 19861 ? | 11:28 |
| special | yes, different | 11:29 |
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| tbr | special: PhoneNumber:;0;Home | 11:30 |
| tbr | and a second one with a genuine phone number | 11:30 |
| Venemo_j | seems it can't :( | 11:30 |
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| kimmoli | Venemo_j: ps as postscript? | 11:31 |
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| Venemo_j | kimmoli: yep | 11:31 |
| tobiski | I unplugged charger this morning at 8am and now 2:30pm I got 34% battery left, that's not good :/ | 11:31 |
| tbr | special: after editing and saving the contact, the line disappeared, also in the edit view there was only the working number | 11:31 |
| special | yeah, People wouldn't accept that | 11:31 |
| special | it probably came from a sync | 11:31 |
| tbr | yes, I think it came from a google sync | 11:32 |
| special | but it should not have been resolved. Will file a bug about that.. | 11:32 |
| * tbr looks up the contact on the google side | 11:32 | |
| special | I wonder how a contact with a phone number of " " would be handled | 11:32 |
| tbr | hrm, on the google side the entry has no phone numbers at all... | 11:33 |
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| kimmoli | hmm... in people, there is some email addresses listed which i cant delete. Long press doesnt do nothing | 11:38 |
| kimmoli | single-tap doesnt allow to edit | 11:38 |
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| special | kimmoli: what's the icon to the left of it in the edit dialog? | 11:39 |
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| kimmoli | earth ? | 11:39 |
| special | some linked details (from sync accounts, etc) can't be edited | 11:39 |
| kimmoli | same as others, those which i can edit have underline (like in textfield) | 11:40 |
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| Yaniel | uhh, tracker/media player | 11:40 |
| Yaniel | y u do this | 11:40 |
| Yaniel | randomly songs eiher 1) don't show up after a reboot or removing+reinserting memory card | 11:41 |
| Yaniel | or 2) just don't play | 11:41 |
| Yaniel | in the latter case journalctl says something about "no URI" | 11:41 |
| coderus | kimmoli: you need to edit details in google/facebook, not at phone | 11:41 |
| kimmoli | these details are not in google nor in exchange | 11:42 |
| kimmoli | i have deleted that wrong address ages ago | 11:42 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: where is then? :) | 11:44 |
| kimmoli | dont know, i removed all 10+ links between just 3 accounts. | 11:46 |
| kimmoli | now i managed deleted the one with wrong email. | 11:46 |
| kimmoli | now when composing new email, i can see the correct address, but 3 times | 11:47 |
| special | o.O | 11:47 |
| Quu | kehfliryeah | 11:47 |
| special | hmm, did we never.. | 11:47 |
| Quu | hrm. | 11:47 |
| kimmoli | it is linked to 3 google accounts with same name | 11:47 |
| Quu | somehow, i have Aard's number in my phone 15 times | 11:47 |
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| Quu | cant combine/delete any of them because they undo themselfs | 11:48 |
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| Nicd- | :D | 11:48 |
| Nicd- | overly attached Aard | 11:49 |
| Quu | well there are other contacts too | 11:49 |
| special | kimmoli: reproduced the incorrect de-duplication of email addresses, will file a bug about that | 11:49 |
| special | s/incorrect/missing/ | 11:49 |
| kimmoli | deleting links will interrupt remorse timers of other deletions when first triggers | 11:49 |
| kimmoli | (tjsp) | 11:50 |
| kimmoli | now deleted all expect the one from exchange, now i got only one. we'll see when google syncs next time | 11:50 |
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| sledges | London calling! https://www.google.com/calendar/render?eid=czBocjdxOXExbzB1dGc5dWpiaHFpMGc0ZzAgZ2MxYm9wbWgzYzVuMG9ndmxvNmNldWpsa2NAZw&ctz=Europe/London&sf=true&output=xml (cc: ballock ggabriel DrainBamaged1 vgrade lbt alterego sdjayna bcc: cybette) https://twitter.com/sledgeSim/status/478504951048847360 | 11:52 |
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| stephg | :) | 11:54 |
| sledges | cc: stephg | 11:54 |
| sledges | :D | 11:54 |
| stephg | you know I'm coming anyway ;) | 11:54 |
| sledges | ;D oh yes | 11:54 |
| stephg | though I may be a bit late (depends on the weather) | 11:54 |
| sledges | no strict start time ;) | 11:54 |
| sledges | it's a relaxed lazy event :) | 11:54 |
| sledges | it's Sunday! | 11:55 |
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| sledges | one more: https://twitter.com/sledgeSim/status/478506787885555712 :) | 12:00 |
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| ggabriel | sledges: \o/ and thanks | 12:03 |
| ggabriel | any chance to get the address of the hack place without logging into google? :) | 12:03 |
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| sledges | google.com w/o logging? | 12:05 |
| sledges | :D | 12:06 |
| sledges | or bing.com if you prefer :)) | 12:06 |
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| ggabriel | sledges: just a post code would be fine | 12:06 |
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| ggabriel | yeah, i never log in google... don't have the password with me anyway | 12:07 |
| sledges | London Hackspace | 12:07 |
| sledges | 447 Hackney Road | 12:07 |
| sledges | London | 12:07 |
| sledges | E2 9DY | 12:07 |
| ggabriel | ta | 12:08 |
| ggabriel | adding to jolla calendar | 12:08 |
| sledges | time: 14-18 | 12:08 |
| sledges | we shouldhave lunch at 13 somewhere, so not to think about food during the event :) | 12:09 |
| sledges | nor go out/bring food either | 12:09 |
| ggabriel | excellent | 12:10 |
| ggabriel | plenty of time to go climbing providing that i wake up early enough | 12:10 |
| sledges | is your pub in vicinity? | 12:10 |
| ggabriel | kinda, let me check | 12:10 |
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| ggabriel | sledges: pub I suggested (founder's arms) is not too close | 12:13 |
| ggabriel | i mean, say 30' travel time | 12:13 |
| ggabriel | not too bad either | 12:14 |
| ggabriel | problem is the bloody football | 12:14 |
| sledges | football is usually late | 12:14 |
| coderus | Dirty but working Superuser binary + apk bundle package for Jolla: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/aliendalvik-superuser | 12:14 |
| ggabriel | sledges: yes, but people go to the pub early to get a seat :) | 12:14 |
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| ggabriel | there's this pub close to the hack place (and close to a tube station for peeps to go to liverpool st) http://here.com/united-kingdom/london/bar-pub/the-shakespeare--826gcpvn-5e745f77796545419231ac8e5ebc2d86 | 12:15 |
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| ggabriel | i've never been there tho :P | 12:15 |
| sledges | ggabriel: i don't see any good matches that day might save us ;) : belgium vs russia, south korea vs algeria, united states vs portugal | 12:15 |
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| sledges | best to find pub which has (one) are without a TV, will surely be plenty of seats :) | 12:16 |
| sledges | *area | 12:16 |
| ggabriel | well, i can't help much... the founders is massive, and if the weather is nice, they have a terrace | 12:17 |
| ggabriel | the one massive one i know without tv's everywhere is in lewisham | 12:18 |
| ggabriel | which is really nice | 12:18 |
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| ggabriel | but it's a bit of a treck away (hackney->london bridge->lewisham, and then lewisham->london bridge->tube/bus to liverpool st) | 12:18 |
| ggabriel | also, london HACK space is in HACKney gg | 12:18 |
| sledges | *_* | 12:19 |
| sledges | GGabriel :) | 12:19 |
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| ggabriel | i used to attend wickid parties in hackney wick too :P | 12:19 |
| ggabriel | anyway, preference is non football pub | 12:20 |
| ggabriel | i can go for a quick recon mission before going to the hack place | 12:20 |
| ggabriel | there's the royal oak too | 12:20 |
| ggabriel | that area (e2) isn't too busy either, so it may be a good place to find something | 12:20 |
| ggabriel | again, no nice views upon thames and whatnot | 12:20 |
| ggabriel | but hey | 12:20 |
| sledges | was about to suggest - take take away away and go for an hour squandering the surroundings between 13 and 14 o'clock | 12:21 |
| sledges | if we will still be publess by that date | 12:21 |
| ggabriel | we fail over to * | 12:21 |
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| ggabriel | ha, the marksman pub, i like the name | 12:22 |
| sledges | anything fishy? ;) | 12:23 |
| sledges | (kidding) | 12:23 |
| ggabriel | probably chippy :P | 12:23 |
| ggabriel | ok, we'll manage | 12:23 |
| ggabriel | i can't think today anyway | 12:23 |
| sledges | safe :) | 12:24 |
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| Aard | Quu: that's a feature, not a bug. | 12:37 |
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| coderus | Aard: Quu hmmm | 12:48 |
| coderus | i'm having 15 contacts of myself too... and it's appearing every time again. | 12:48 |
| coderus | What is that feature for? | 12:48 |
| Aard | Quu: that you can't get rid of me, if I'm in the contacts :p | 12:49 |
| * Aard watches you! | 12:49 | |
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| coderus | not 14 or 16, every time 15 copies of same contact. | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | google apps installed? | 12:52 |
| coderus | contact with just phone and no other info. and phone marked ad landline number. | 12:52 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: yes | 12:52 |
| coderus | marked as* | 12:52 |
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| matrixx | has any idea what might be wrong.. suddenly my jolla stopped receiving phone calls, they go straight to the answerer | 13:07 |
| matrixx | networks shows signal and mobile data works | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | matrixx: operator? change to "Prefer 3G" -- any changes? | 13:08 |
| matrixx | on Sonera | 13:08 |
| matrixx | let's try | 13:08 |
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| matrixx | no help :/ | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | /system/bin/logcat -b radio -- make a call to the device? | 13:09 |
| matrixx | should it do something, it just hangs | 13:10 |
| matrixx | apparently it should output something if the call would have went through? | 13:12 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | was this as root? | 13:19 |
| matrixx | ah crap.. seems that my sim card is broken | 13:20 |
| matrixx | I found another device to try on, and the same issue persists | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | or network has problems | 13:20 |
| matrixx | network works fine, except the call receiving | 13:20 |
| matrixx | I can still make phonecalls if that matters | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | that .. sounds od | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | d | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | i'd be inclined to blame sim or your network | 13:21 |
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| special | could also be something like call forwarding or similar network settings | 13:21 |
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| special | but yeah, contact operator | 13:22 |
| matrixx | I doubt it's a network issue since my colleague has also similar company sim and it works fine | 13:22 |
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| Stskeeps | HMM | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | err, hmm | 13:22 |
| special | settings -> apps -> phone, check call forwarding and call barring settings | 13:23 |
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| matrixx | already checked, no call forwarding on | 13:26 |
| matrixx | also haven't touched any settings, just started to happen | 13:26 |
| matrixx | but I now contacted my operator, let's see what they say | 13:26 |
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| Venemo_j | matrixx: they should replace your faulty sim card | 13:49 |
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| DrainBamaged1 | nice one sledges | 15:43 |
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| circ-user-nS7TS | Hi there | 15:44 |
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| sledges | cheers drive DrainBamaged1 :) | 15:58 |
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| Anz_ | I'm unable to zoom some emails. is this a known issue? | 16:08 |
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| Milo- | why'd the device restart itself, when SIM card is removed? | 16:31 |
| ggabriel | Milo-: it doesn't in my case | 16:32 |
| ggabriel | it gives me the option but i ignore it | 16:32 |
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| Milo- | just received new SIM card from DNA, removed the old one and placed the new one in, and the device had shut itself down somewhere in between | 16:32 |
| Milo- | seemed unnecessary. | 16:32 |
| Milo- | ah.. | 16:33 |
| Milo- | the "restart now" area is so big, that it's very easy to accidentally hit, while paying attention to the backside.. | 16:34 |
| Milo- | that sounded strangely erotic. | 16:34 |
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| ggabriel | well | 16:38 |
| ggabriel | i have pressed the button unintentionally in the past | 16:39 |
| ggabriel | so maybe that was the case | 16:39 |
| Milo- | I'm assuming that now | 16:39 |
| dunp | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/chinese-govt-reveals-microsofts-secret-list-of-android-killer-patents/ | 16:40 |
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| pdanek | Stskeeps: Did you also fancy the wireless earbud from movie Her? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1629248706/earin-the-worlds-smallest-wireless-earbuds | 16:44 |
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| sqozz | hello together, do someone know if its possible to listen to FM-radio with my jolla? | 16:45 |
| Milo- | seems like something that you could use once.. and after that you wouldn't be able to find one of them. | 16:45 |
| Milo- | other than that, love it. | 16:45 |
| javispedro | sqozz, seemingly not. | 16:46 |
| pdanek | Milo-: yea, especially in some busy office space, it could get lost easily | 16:47 |
| Milo- | or jogging and one pops out of the ear. | 16:47 |
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| Milo- | that's what happens with all-in-ear headphones. no matter what kind of foam they use. | 16:47 |
| Milo- | all in-ear* | 16:48 |
| pdanek | Milo-: not true | 16:48 |
| Milo- | and I'm yet to find good bluetooth in-ear headphones. problems: bad quality, rattle, and occasional "lag" | 16:49 |
| pdanek | Milo-: true | 16:49 |
| pdanek | :D | 16:49 |
| ggabriel | depends on the ear | 16:49 |
| ggabriel | my ear is rubbish | 16:49 |
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| ggabriel | or maybe it doesn't want to hear evil | 16:49 |
| pdanek | ggabriel: there is always option to get custom headphones, although a bit more expensive | 16:49 |
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| ggabriel | pdanek: true, but yuk | 16:50 |
| ggabriel | and it's a faff | 16:50 |
| Milo- | wired in-ear headphones are mostly annoying because of the wire. | 16:50 |
| ggabriel | i use the ethymotics (i think) ones wchih are stuck-in-ear | 16:50 |
| Milo- | but the quality is just superb | 16:50 |
| ggabriel | and they are ok | 16:50 |
| ggabriel | they hurt a bit, but great for running | 16:50 |
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| ggabriel | what i really want is a neural lace | 16:51 |
| Milo- | ah.. my perfect saying from the climbing world is: "if it hurts, it'll stick" | 16:51 |
| pdanek | ggabriel: recommended: http://www.minerva-hearingprotection.co.uk/mi-performer-pro.html or maybe cheaper one: http://www.minerva-hearingprotection.co.uk/mi-performer.html | 16:51 |
| ggabriel | pdanek: interesting | 16:52 |
| Milo- | I'm currently using koss isparks. they are used just like those ear protects you might use while outdoor shooting ranges or while working in noisy factories | 16:52 |
| pdanek | ethymotics are good, but I would also buy custom ear plugs for them | 16:52 |
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| Milo- | mostly they stick pretty well, but sometimes the foam pulls it out. | 16:52 |
| ggabriel | well, i still have to option to pop by boots and do it | 16:52 |
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| ggabriel | pdanek: would you say they stick properly, i.e., good for running? | 16:53 |
| Milo- | £400 for set of in-ear headphones O_O | 16:54 |
| ggabriel | shure are in the same range tbh | 16:54 |
| ggabriel | you can always pay more for audio equipment | 16:55 |
| Milo- | oh dear :) | 16:55 |
| Milo- | but something to listen to mp3 files when jogging.. | 16:55 |
| Milo- | sounds a bit overkill | 16:55 |
| ggabriel | the trouble is that these in-ear solutions are untestable | 16:55 |
| ggabriel | it isn't overkill when it lasts and performs | 16:56 |
| pdanek | You can keep using Ethymotics and just buy custom earbuds which you use instead of foam. For example: http://www.acscustom.com/uk/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=productdetails&virtuemart_product_id=26&virtuemart_category_id=2 | 16:56 |
| pdanek | Many headphones like Ethymotics are compatible with ER moulds. | 16:56 |
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| Milo- | pdanek those are specially for each customer? | 16:56 |
| pdanek | sure | 16:56 |
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| Stskeeps | pdanek: :) | 16:57 |
| pdanek | look bottom on the page | 16:57 |
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| ggabriel | hehe, they're as expensive as the headphones themselves | 16:57 |
| ggabriel | but thanks for the tip pdanek ;) | 16:57 |
| pdanek | True. | 16:57 |
| pdanek | Expensive. | 16:57 |
| pdanek | It's only if someone needs superior comfort. | 16:57 |
| Milo- | damn :o | 16:58 |
| Milo- | didn't know they had such services | 16:58 |
| ggabriel | ehtymotics comes with the boots one which is a lot cheaper | 16:58 |
| pdanek | Not just Ethy. | 16:58 |
| ggabriel | not sure it'll be the same quality tho | 16:58 |
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| Milo- | finland probably doesn't have that kind of services :) | 16:58 |
| circ-user-KyaiJ | Hey, who's in for a riddle? :-) | 16:58 |
| Milo- | I'm sure we are too cheap for that :) | 16:59 |
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| pdanek | There are hundreds of full-custom headphones, that the whole piece including electronics or cable is made into your ear-shape. Either in silicone or acrylic version. Silicone version is more comfortable. | 16:59 |
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| circ-user-KyaiJ | Do we have some cracks from Jolla online? | 16:59 |
| circ-user-KyaiJ | http://pastebin.com/XSDHR8Vp | 16:59 |
| circ-user-KyaiJ | I might have scrambled up sth. in line 923 something goes wrong | 17:00 |
| circ-user-KyaiJ | it's the output of my journalctl. | 17:00 |
| circ-user-KyaiJ | ofono can't work | 17:00 |
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| Yaniel | there are some sailors lurkin around here yes | 17:01 |
| circ-user-KyaiJ | stskeeps for example? | 17:01 |
| circ-user-KyaiJ | :P | 17:01 |
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| Milo- | I like how that "pledged amount" keeps increasing as I'm watching the video | 17:04 |
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| Milo- | I think it just jumped several thousands. | 17:04 |
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| MoritzJT | which video are you watching? | 17:06 |
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| pdanek | Stskeeps: Maybe you've noticed that I often start off-topic discussions in here. Is it acceptable, or too much? | 17:10 |
| ggabriel | like i said before, i'd have missed riot if it weren't for the off topic-ness of #jollamobile | 17:11 |
| ggabriel | so keep it coming | 17:11 |
| Stskeeps | pdanek: well, stay mostly on-topic or related, should be fine | 17:11 |
| ggabriel | unless ofc we're having a relevant discussion | 17:11 |
| pdanek | ok ;) | 17:11 |
| Stskeeps | ie, strange new hws are certainly on topic | 17:11 |
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| ggabriel | i wouldn't say audio accessories are off topic fwiw | 17:12 |
| MoritzJT | What new HW? Can i get an update? | 17:12 |
| MoritzJT | or link | 17:12 |
| ggabriel | e.g., the jolla is ok for high quality xyz brand etc etc | 17:12 |
| MoritzJT | By the way, stskeeps, have you seen my paste? ;-) http://pastebin.com/XSDHR8Vp | 17:12 |
| Stskeeps | Jun 16 18:13:07 Jolla kernel: ofonod: unhandled page fault (11) at 0x00000010, code 0x017 | 17:13 |
| Stskeeps | there's your problem | 17:13 |
| ggabriel | MoritzJT: out of curiosity, patched conman? | 17:13 |
| MoritzJT | yes, patched conman, that ran fine for a week | 17:13 |
| ggabriel | k | 17:14 |
| MoritzJT | I had a random reboot, after that, no SIM, no BT, no WiFi, ofc. | 17:14 |
| MoritzJT | It happened with my Alien Dalvik freshly rooted and me playing with ROM toolbox and Android Busybox installer. | 17:14 |
| Turski | btw, is jolla hardware able to communicate with sdcard reader faster than about 12 MB/s? | 17:14 |
| MoritzJT | I have no idea if touching alien dalvik stuff could lead to this. | 17:14 |
| Turski | since that's the max i'm able to get | 17:14 |
| Turski | at least for write | 17:15 |
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| MoritzJT | If you want fast write to your Jolla, follow this for a FAT32 partition: https://together.jolla.com/question/10002/alternative-to-mtp-usb-mass-storage/?answer=43463#post-id-43463 | 17:16 |
| Turski | MoritzJT: FAT32? are you kidding? | 17:16 |
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| MoritzJT | no, I'm not kidding, I used that to have USB-OTG from N8 and 808 able to handle it ;-) Also old WinXP machines in work environment without exfat stuff enabled | 17:17 |
| Turski | well, i already have tuned journal-less ext4 partitioned card | 17:17 |
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| MoritzJT | stskeeps, should that page fault tell me sth.? I'm considering to reset my device instead | 17:17 |
| Turski | MoritzJT: i have no reason to use any microsoft crap on my devices | 17:18 |
| MoritzJT | well I haven't managed to expose SD-Card the same way that is described in the link | 17:18 |
| dunp | fat emulation? | 17:18 |
| MoritzJT | Well lucky you then ;-) The above works with any FS. Use EXT4 then | 17:18 |
| Stskeeps | MoritzJT: can you reproduce? | 17:19 |
| MoritzJT | it's still quicker for access than writing to SDcard for me | 17:19 |
| Turski | MoritzJT: the post you linked looks like something that should be burned | 17:19 |
| Turski | MoritzJT: just format the sd card and insert it into jolla, it will work as long as it's not exfat :) | 17:20 |
| Turski | i prefer ext4 | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | MoritzJT: if so, i wouldn't mind a copy of the coredump | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | MoritzJT: ah.. WLAN not activateable | 17:20 |
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| Stskeeps | well that complicates matter | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | s | 17:20 |
| dunp | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format ? | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | MoritzJT: are you sshing in over usb? | 17:21 |
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| dunp | http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article93/usb-udf | 17:21 |
| Turski | i was more intrested about hardware limits on sd card speeds | 17:22 |
| Turski | since my card support write speeds up to 80 MB/s | 17:22 |
| MoritzJT | that's probably a limitation of how the SD-Card is exposed on Jolla | 17:22 |
| MoritzJT | just guessing | 17:23 |
| Turski | i'm guessing too that ~12 MB/s is the bandwidth between sdcard reader and cpu | 17:23 |
| Turski | but if someone is getting higher speeds, let me know | 17:24 |
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| MoritzJT | Yes, so that's why I take out my card for large files. I'll benchmark mine later. It's formatted to exfat though, no idea if that poses an additional limitation, we'll see | 17:24 |
| dunp | if user need install fat support for phone? normal fs is ext4? | 17:24 |
| Turski | oh, actually i can copy from /dev/zero at speed of 32 MB/s | 17:26 |
| mdxth | Speed results with 1 gigabyte file: http://pastebin.com/GeeNfdej | 17:26 |
| Turski | dunp: what you mean with normal fs? | 17:27 |
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| Turski | MoritzJT: how you measured that? | 17:27 |
| MoritzJT | fat support is already on jolla, right? | 17:27 |
| Turski | mdxth: ^ | 17:27 |
| MoritzJT | how I measured what? :D | 17:27 |
| Turski | MoritzJT: tabfail | 17:27 |
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| dunp | fat? | 17:28 |
| dunp | default for sd cards | 17:28 |
| Turski | dunp: exfat is default for SDXC | 17:28 |
| dunp | ok but ms patented fs.. :( | 17:29 |
| Turski | that's why i formatted my card to ext4 | 17:29 |
| MoritzJT | istn't exfat-nofuse an FS that's derived from it but open? | 17:30 |
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| MoritzJT | Well, problem erased ;-) Thanks Stskeeps. Will report later CU all | 17:46 |
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| lokimotive | hey | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | moo | 18:31 |
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| parasemic | hey | 18:35 |
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| Stskeeps | m0000 | 18:35 |
| parasemic | so i installed the update, no help | 18:35 |
| parasemic | i think my phone is just flat out broken, it seems to lose connection to everything every 30 seconds or so | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | so you factory reset, installed update and what's happening? | 18:36 |
| parasemic | not yet, didnt have time to do all that | 18:36 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | and you wouldn't define yourself as a power user? | 18:37 |
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| parasemic | yeah i would, but im not really a linux person | 18:39 |
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| TMavica | anyone got emoiji keyboard working? | 18:41 |
| TMavica | emoji | 18:41 |
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| parasemic | i did the backup.tar including only my contacts, resetting now | 18:44 |
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| parasemic | ok this is weird | 19:03 |
| parasemic | my screen got some dead pixels after reset .. ? | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | shoouldn't .. photo? | 19:04 |
| parasemic | they werent there before, that's for sure | 19:04 |
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| pdanek | Do you consider this as a good ad? http://youtu.be/rGW76JB90Ro | 19:05 |
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| parasemic | stskeeps, cant really get a good photo. some green pixels around right side of the screen | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | ok, anyway: sounds like you might want to contact care | 19:06 |
| FireFly | See if they show up on a screenshot | 19:07 |
| FireFly | i.e. if it's a rendering bug or physical bug | 19:07 |
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| parasemic | ok, its not showing up in a screenshot | 19:21 |
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| stephg | evening all | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | evening stephg | 19:29 |
| * stephg is somewhat in heaven, glass of wine, football, bike maintenance and good folks talking about linux phones | 19:30 | |
| stephg | evening Stskeeps | 19:30 |
| pdanek | FreeBSD phones! The hype! | 19:31 |
| vgrade | \o | 19:31 |
| stephg | heh | 19:32 |
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| parasemic | ok this gets even more interesting. now my settings app broke (graphically) when doing first update | 19:37 |
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| attah | I think we should have a "bug of the week" here :P | 19:38 |
| attah | They aren't a whole lot.. but they sure are strange.. | 19:39 |
| jake9xx | kimmoli: ping | 19:39 |
| parasemic | http://kuvaton.com/k/yBjJ.jpg | 19:41 |
| parasemic | wat | 19:41 |
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| Stskeeps | parasemic: that's a screenshot? | 19:41 |
| stephg | if you click on accounts or Apps does the grey go away? | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | (done how?) | 19:42 |
| Bawal | i'll just connect the few rows above... there's this funny feature, where the device will go crazy and all PPP-P-P-PPI-PINGG-G when it finds a connection after a while and there's more than one message waiting | 19:42 |
| Bawal | maybe one would do | 19:42 |
| parasemic | no, wont go away. it just is like that after i updated to 1.0.2.5 | 19:42 |
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| parasemic | this is getting pretty hilarious | 19:42 |
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| Stskeeps | parasemic: yeah.. that's for sure -- i think you should contact care at this point :) | 19:42 |
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| parasemic | stskeeps, yeah that seems pretty reasonable at this point | 19:45 |
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| parasemic | however, im updating to the latest version just to see what funny is gonna come up | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | give me the zendesk id when that comes, that device sounds.. interesting | 19:46 |
| parasemic | maybe i just have a "monday piece" as ive been struggling with weird issues since forever | 19:46 |
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| parasemic | unstable wlan, kinda weird touch recognition, bad call quality etc | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, doesn't sound good | 19:49 |
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| Turski | RAM/flash fail? | 19:49 |
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| ShadowJK | what does "problem with sync" in email app cover mean.. | 19:50 |
| Turski | reminds me from one problematic RAM stick i had on my pc once | 19:50 |
| stephg | ShadowJK: either sending or receiving failed for one (or more) accounts | 19:50 |
| ShadowJK | how would i find out more? | 19:51 |
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| ShadowJK | in main view it says "just now" | 19:51 |
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| Aciid | hey, does anyone have experience on how to include curl to qtcreator? | 19:55 |
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| Yaniel | ShadowJK: journalctl | 19:56 |
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| stephg | how many accounts ShadowJK | 19:56 |
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| ShadowJK | 2, normal email not on autosybc. mfe one on auto | 19:56 |
| stephg | if one fails and one succeeds I think you'll still get 'just now' | 19:56 |
| stephg | what happens if you try and sync all again (either from cover, or from the front view) | 19:57 |
| kimmoli | jake9xx: ping-u | 19:57 |
| ShadowJK | says "just now" on both, and error msg in cover still present | 19:58 |
| stephg | and the networking works right? | 19:58 |
| stephg | try journalctl as yaniel says | 19:59 |
| stephg | if there's nothing there | 19:59 |
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| ShadowJK | well, im ircing from jolla right now, so... | 19:59 |
| stephg | do a ps -ef | grep messageserver, get the arguments, kill it and run it in an ssh session and see if it says stuff | 19:59 |
| stephg | (there is a debug or verbose flag but I don't remember what it is off the top of my head) | 20:00 |
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| parasemic | moar fuan! | 20:02 |
| parasemic | now my pull down menu got empty | 20:02 |
| parasemic | only "silence sounds" | 20:02 |
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| ShadowJK | msyncd failed to load profile hsms | 20:06 |
| ShadowJK | jolla-email ... sync completed with errors!!! | 20:07 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/fi/articles/202471663-Mit%C3%A4-tarkoitetaan-Oikopoluilla- | 20:07 |
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| ShadowJK | though no indication in journalctl of possible issue... | 20:11 |
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| pdanek | Skype for Linux is such a crap. | 20:14 |
| lpotter | skyper was better when it was kaaza | 20:15 |
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| lpotter | skype even | 20:16 |
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| Nichope | I don't get why Skype for linux should be so bad, as long as you're not an art lover :S I mean, doesn't it do pretty much the same that on Windows? (maybe except for msn merging and ¿multiple videocalls? dunno) | 20:19 |
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| stephg | ShadowJK start messageserver5 in the foreground, irrc that's what does the actual work | 20:27 |
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| ShadowJK | stephg: messageserver5 running in a fingerterm, sybc error went away.. | 20:30 |
| Yaniel | has anyone had success with 4g in germany? | 20:31 |
| Yaniel | it worked nicely after the update in finland and sweden and a bit in denmark | 20:32 |
| Yaniel | but in germany and austria I have only seen 2g and 3g | 20:32 |
| ShadowJK | no output in fingerterm fron messageserver5 | 20:32 |
| CoderCandy | ... oookay | 20:33 |
| CoderCandy | that was the weirdest bug I've found so far | 20:33 |
| CoderCandy | The GUI crashed after a call with my mother | 20:33 |
| CoderCandy | so I put the phone down | 20:33 |
| CoderCandy | and all of a sudden my aunt started speaking | 20:33 |
| CoderCandy | My phone had called her for some reason. | 20:33 |
| CoderCandy | Now the led is just flashing green | 20:34 |
| stephg | ShadowJK: that's weird. I wonder if it was a bug in messageserver or something | 20:34 |
| CoderCandy | and there it was flashing red | 20:34 |
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| CoderCandy | Seems to be up now | 20:34 |
| Stskeeps | update7? | 20:35 |
| CoderCandy | Yup, latest update including connman hotfix | 20:35 |
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| netzvieh | Yaniel: I tried it shortly with T-Mobile but it didn't get 4G, only 3G. My work phone (xperia z) connects just fine to the 4g net | 20:40 |
| Yaniel | hm I suspect frequencies then | 20:40 |
| netzvieh | afaik it's supposed to work | 20:42 |
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| ShadowJK | stephg: presumably this mfe thing has contacts and cslendsr stuff too, is thst also handled by messageserver5? | 20:43 |
| netzvieh | hmm i know there are a couple of germans here, but the only person i can remember lives in .fi :D and I'm not sure if any of them has 4g anyway :D | 20:43 |
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| stephg | ShadowJK: pass, but probably | 20:48 |
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| TemeV | Yaniel: I have 4G working in Germany with O2 | 20:49 |
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| Aciid | any information about crosscompile toolchains for sailfish? I'd like to get curl to build ;_; | 20:50 |
| Aciid | (I'm a huge pleb and I want to use curl for my rest calls) | 20:50 |
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| Stskeeps | curl is preinstalled | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | (AFAIK) | 20:50 |
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| pdanek | 4G with Play carrier in Poland works well. | 20:51 |
| Aciid | yeah, but I'm building an app. and I'm using curl lib, not curl binaries | 20:51 |
| Stskeeps | pdanek: indeed, i have same operator | 20:51 |
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| TemeV | Yaniel: and there is also this https://together.jolla.com/question/45530/wiki-operation-of-lte-services/#post-id-47305 | 20:52 |
| TemeV | Operator: Telekom; Vodafone; E-Plus; O2 | 20:52 |
| TemeV | 4G/LTE working: Yes | 20:52 |
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| Yaniel | hm, could be that the operator does not want to give me 4g when roaming then | 21:04 |
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| Yaniel | nordic countries do not count as roaming on my plan | 21:05 |
| netzvieh | yeah but doesn't explain why I don't have 4g with the jolla | 21:05 |
| netzvieh | well it was my work sim, i just used it to test the connection, so it's not much of a problem | 21:05 |
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| pdanek | Do you think Intel will eventually be able to compete with top ARM chips? | 22:18 |
| pdanek | Or it will stay mid-tier? | 22:18 |
| pdanek | Because ARM develops really fast, so whatever Intel brings, ARM may do a step forward again. | 22:19 |
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