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| emilsedgh | Guys, I'm in Iran. I'd love to get a Jolla. Do you guys ship worldwide? | 00:06 |
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| emilsedgh | ah, seems not :( | 00:06 |
| emilsedgh | pity. | 00:07 |
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| wmarone | emilsedgh: nope, just limited regions unfortunately. | 00:33 |
| emilsedgh | wmarone: does it work on all networks? I mean, is it only a matter of shipment? | 00:33 |
| wmarone | well, it'll work on most 2.5G networks but 3.5G/LTE are somewhat regional | 00:33 |
| wmarone | like here in the 'states it won't work on 3(.5)G/LTE on any carriers | 00:34 |
| wmarone | which sucks | 00:34 |
| wmarone | so I'm waiting and using a Nexus device until then | 00:34 |
| wmarone | if the frequencies it supports match what's available in your area, it might just be a matter of shipment | 00:34 |
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| covox | emilsedgh: iran is just GSM/3G 2100 right? it should work | 00:56 |
| covox | also you can get a remailing address based in the EU (e.g. forward2me.com) | 00:59 |
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| mcfrisk | what are the new scroll buttons in media player, they do nothing usefull, or do they? push the down arrows in all songs view, screen goes black until finger release and then I'm at the end of the list. | 06:12 |
| BonoNL | so it does something | 06:14 |
| BonoNL | it lets you jump down quickly | 06:14 |
| BonoNL | handy in a long list | 06:15 |
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| TMavica | Jolla can support VOLTE? | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | not atm, and also, most devices don't | 06:23 |
| TMavica | stskeeps u outdate | 06:24 |
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| TMavica | i just found that many people using it in Hong Kong... | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 06:24 |
| TMavica | really | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | chip-wise it's first msm8974 that really supports it | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | well, hong kong is a heaven for technology compared to europe ;) | 06:25 |
| TMavica | the operator keep challenge | 06:25 |
| TMavica | who fast who win.. | 06:25 |
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| TMavica | stskeep, when u come | 06:31 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm .. not going to hong kong for a few months, maybe september | 06:31 |
| TMavica | not this month? LOL | 06:32 |
| Stskeeps | well, i'm not exactly a celebrity | 06:32 |
| gexc | there is rumor jolla will be released in HK soon™ LOL | 06:34 |
| TMavica | yes, this month | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | everything is "soon" with jolla :) | 06:34 |
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| tbr | Stskeeps: jolla should make a version of their logo with the horse and soon. | 06:35 |
| tbr | or someone™ | 06:35 |
| BonoNL_ | well I love the LTE support and file support | 06:35 |
| BonoNL_ | that made it out of beta for me | 06:35 |
| pp | sometimes "very soon" ! | 06:35 |
| TMavica | if support VOLTE is good | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: or change into SharkOS and a nicehttp://animal-backgrounds.com/files/Shark/Finding%20Nemo-shark-wallpaper.jpg "SOON" | 06:36 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: or change into SharkOS and a nice http://animal-backgrounds.com/files/Shark/Finding%20Nemo-shark-wallpaper.jpg "SOON" | 06:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:36 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: with lazorz? | 06:37 |
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| Stskeeps | tbr: lazors TOH | 06:39 |
| tbr | indeed | 06:40 |
| tbr | should build one, gpio operated :D | 06:40 |
| Nicd- | Stskeeps: my charging LED has turned white again | 06:40 |
| Nicd- | so now it's no longer plotting against me? | 06:40 |
| Plnt | what is the best way how to completely uninstall android app? i read on TJC that just tapping on the cross button in the launcher is not enough and data is left there. there is info about apkd-uninstall on http://elinux.org/Jolla#Where_do_I_put_.apk_files but not sure if that does the same thing as the launcher method. | 06:40 |
| Stskeeps | Nicd-: it has finished calculating | 06:40 |
| Nicd- | that sounds evil | 06:41 |
| TMavica | anyone found that if LED light sometimes light up when the screen is dimming? | 06:41 |
| gexc | if there is sms or email during a call | 06:42 |
| TMavica | no | 06:42 |
| gexc | after that the LED will keep blinking if the screen is dark | 06:42 |
| TMavica | when i using the phone, it come like this | 06:42 |
| TMavica | the LED light up, and screen sudden dimmer | 06:43 |
| gexc | even if the msg is read | 06:43 |
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| gexc | different issue LOL | 06:43 |
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| spiiroin | TMavica: Now that the automatic brightness tuning uses really low values it is possible that there is no dynamic range left to do visible dimming anymore. In that case the led is shown when the device is logically in "dimming screen" state and about to turn off the display. | 06:48 |
| spiiroin | (otherwise it would just turn off without any warning when used in darkness) | 06:49 |
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| TMavica | THANKS | 06:53 |
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| Sequenced | is there anyone else who has had problems with facebook-feed? mine doesn't show anything. | 06:57 |
| Sequenced | tried to relogin but it didn't work. tried to delete account an create new one but doesn't work | 06:57 |
| Sequenced | messages work though | 06:57 |
| Sequenced | twitter feed is also working | 06:57 |
| Bysmyyr | Sequenced: works fine | 06:58 |
| Nicd- | Sequenced: you mean the notification view? | 06:59 |
| Sequenced | yes | 06:59 |
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| Sequenced | if i refresh, the pulley menu glows couple seconds but it doesn't show any info | 07:00 |
| Nicd- | have you gotten any notifications on facebook? | 07:00 |
| Sequenced | yes | 07:00 |
| Sequenced | i haven't seen anyone else repoting problems with it | 07:01 |
| Sequenced | maybe some setting is off or something | 07:01 |
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| gabriel9|work | so we just need to send empty email to connman-hotfix@jolla.com ? | 07:02 |
| gabriel9|work | to get update for conman | 07:02 |
| Nicd- | have you gotten any notifications after the new update, Sequenced? because it's not supposed to show your wall | 07:02 |
| Sequenced | just to be clear: is facebook messages and feed is different from notifications? | 07:04 |
| Nicd- | yes | 07:06 |
| Nicd- | notifications are like "you were mentioned in a post" or "Jeff has a birthday today" | 07:06 |
| Sequenced | then no notifications after the update, but i think there haven't been any after the update anyway. the notifications have worked before the update though | 07:07 |
| Sequenced | i noticed that after creating the account again, the configuration page of facebook is different | 07:08 |
| Sequenced | i can't set the interval of updating the feed any more. | 07:09 |
| Sequenced | it just doesn't let me choose from the list | 07:09 |
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| Venemo | good morning :) | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | morn Venemo | 07:15 |
| Scelt | Sequenced: dod you login to facebook again after update? | 07:15 |
| Scelt | oh, sry. you did | 07:15 |
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| Scelt | the advanced line reading technique of mine failed me | 07:15 |
| Sequenced | yes :) | 07:16 |
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| Sequenced | forgot to say that the friends-client works as well | 07:19 |
| Sequenced | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15696793/20140611101419.jpg | 07:20 |
| Sequenced | there are the available settings for the account at the moment | 07:20 |
| Sequenced | i think after "lataa" (download) there should be something? and i think there was before i created the account again | 07:21 |
| Nicd- | yes, there should be 4 checkboxes | 07:22 |
| Nicd- | also after "Syötepäivitysten lataus" there should be a dropdown | 07:23 |
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| Sequenced | yes i can press there and new window opens with the time intervals but i can't choose any of them | 07:23 |
| pp | hehe, syötepäivitys must be a new word :-) | 07:24 |
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| TMavica | where can i find SIM Application Toolkit? | 07:25 |
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| Sequenced | so, after i created the account again, i am fairly certain that there were those 4 checkboxes also and everything was most likely on | 07:25 |
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| nahkiss | eh, did the latest update break play store for anyone else? | 07:42 |
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| AL13N_work | not using it... sorry | 07:47 |
| TMavica | nahkiss no | 07:49 |
| TMavica | using 4.8.20 | 07:49 |
| TMavica | how come here map only support english | 07:50 |
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| chem|st | TMavica: simkit | 07:52 |
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| TMavica | nth show out after run it | 07:57 |
| Nicd- | btw, since when has there been a permissions screen when installing android apps? | 07:58 |
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| Nicd- | it only appeared for me when my phone came back from optima. before that, when I installed an android app, I just got a notification "app installed" | 07:59 |
| Nicd- | now it shows me the permissions of the app and asks for confirmation | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | since.. some update | 07:59 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | good morning guys | 08:08 |
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| thessy | hi, where can i config the new feature 'folder in launcher'? | 08:10 |
| thessy | found nothing in 'settings' | 08:10 |
| joonahoi | thessy: just pull an app icon over another | 08:10 |
| joonahoi | it automatically creates a "folder" for you, which you can later name | 08:10 |
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| thessy | ok works, and howto rename? long tap does nothing, no pulley menu | 08:13 |
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| gexc | tap the name of the folder | 08:14 |
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| gexc | after opening it | 08:14 |
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| thessy | thanks | 08:14 |
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| Sequenced | about the facebook integration | 09:03 |
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| Sequenced | not much of a facebook user, but does it show only the notifications and not the feed? | 09:03 |
| Nicd- | only notifications | 09:04 |
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| Sequenced | so if i have liked some band's page, should their updates be showed in the notifications? | 09:05 |
| Scelt | if you have checked from their page to get notifications | 09:05 |
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| Scelt | on desktop, it's found in settings on the right side of "Liked"-button | 09:05 |
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| Sequenced | oh man :D | 09:07 |
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| Sequenced | i use facebook for following different bands, not for anything else. i have liked some 50 bands and now i probably should change the settings for all of them. maybe i should just stick with Friends :D | 09:09 |
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| Scelt | if you get notifications to any client, sailfish should get them too | 09:10 |
| Scelt | it changed some time ago that you have to enable the notifications for every page to get them at all | 09:11 |
| Sequenced | i just understood that feed and notifications are a bit different. | 09:11 |
| Scelt | oh, so you are a facebook guru then ;) | 09:11 |
| Sequenced | clearly not :D | 09:11 |
| Sequenced | so does Friends show the same stuff that notifications show in the events? | 09:12 |
| Scelt | dunno about friends, haven't used | 09:14 |
| Scelt | the notifications are the ones shown below the globe icon in desktop fb | 09:14 |
| Sequenced | that settles it. facebook integration doesn't show any notifications for me because i don't have any :D | 09:15 |
| flux | noticed this morning that the rgb led is now able to fade out | 09:18 |
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| Nicd- | yeah, it does when it has completed charging | 09:18 |
| flux | nice, I always thought it was annoying that jolla didn't have that n9 feature, but apparently it was only lack of software :) | 09:18 |
| flux | I mean I thought it was not possible to set its brightness | 09:18 |
| Nicd- | unlikely that it will happen when not on a charger though as I understand it takes a lot of CPU to fade it | 09:19 |
| flux | it does it via bitbanging? whoa | 09:19 |
| Nicd- | N9 and N900 had dedicated HW for that I think | 09:19 |
| flux | I would expect this kind of hardware have all kinds of communication chips that would be able to do that | 09:19 |
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| spiiroin | flux: while the N900 led controller can compute prime numbers and stuff, the Jolla led controller can only toggle power on/off ... depending on pulse widths this means either static color with controllable brightness or full intensity on/off blinking | 09:33 |
| flux | so, setting an intensity is ok, but fading needs active cpu? | 09:34 |
| spiiroin | yes | 09:34 |
| flux | I wonder how 'woken' the cpu needs to be to do that, that is, will it require too much current | 09:35 |
| flux | slow fades are maybe reasonable ;) | 09:35 |
| spiiroin | early suspend is enough, but even that means cpu is active all the time | 09:35 |
| flux | even if you update it only 1 times per second? | 09:36 |
| flux | 10 times | 09:36 |
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| spiiroin | it takes time to wake up from suspend; wakeups can be scheduled with 1 s accuracy; and going back to suspend takes seconds ... | 09:38 |
| spiiroin | i.e. the cpu must stay "hot" | 09:38 |
| spiiroin | but since charging blocks suspend anyway -> we can "breathe" without causing extra drain | 09:40 |
| Nicd- | so, before a better source appears: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iltalehti.fi%2Fdigi%2F2014061118396291_du.shtml&edit-text=&act=url | 09:42 |
| Nicd- | * new phone no later than next year | 09:42 |
| Nicd- | * massive update next fall having to do with multitasking (at least) | 09:42 |
| Nicd- | " Instead, the United States has no plans to Dinghy w outboard motor." <-- best translation ever | 09:43 |
| kimmoli | :) | 09:43 |
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| flux | will I finally be able to take the phone out, peek at the (say) map app/irc/whatever and put it back out without excessive gestures?-) | 09:46 |
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| flux | it was so nice with n900 with its hardware switch. just flip it, you're back in the app you left from. flip again, you're out. | 09:47 |
| Nicd- | I would also like to get back to the app I was in when unlocking the phone | 09:47 |
| flux | but I suppose the double-tapping and the switch on the size introduce a margin of error for unlocking, so there needs to be some lock screen in the between. | 09:48 |
| flux | s/size/side/ | 09:48 |
| flux | maybe if someone makde a hardware lock TOH :) | 09:48 |
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| * gexc playing with a bluetooth keypad | 10:11 | |
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| gexc | does jolla support bluetooth mice? | 10:12 |
| flux | right, one was supported now. does the keyboard work anywhere in a useful fashion? | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | gexc: i don't think we really have cursor support | 10:12 |
| gexc | I have got a trackpoint on the keypad but it does not work now | 10:12 |
| gexc | :-O | 10:12 |
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| gexc | keyboard works definitely better than N9 | 10:14 |
| flux | nice | 10:14 |
| flux | I tried it with n9, it was not great | 10:14 |
| flux | how about with the terminal | 10:14 |
| flux | ? | 10:14 |
| * gexc pressed the ctrl-alt-delete combo and found the phone rebooted LOL | 10:15 | |
| Stskeeps | gexc: of course | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | it's a real linux machine | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:16 |
| gexc | that's good | 10:16 |
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| gexc | is the mouse support planned in the future? | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | i have doubts about it.. long story short it'd be composed on top | 10:18 |
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| gexc | volume shortcuts work but not the mute one ;-) | 10:20 |
| TMavica | gexc | 10:21 |
| TMavica | u in china?? | 10:21 |
| gexc | yes | 10:21 |
| TMavica | seem china cant use 4g, right? | 10:21 |
| gexc | no 4G yet | 10:22 |
| gexc | at least no official announcements for FDD | 10:22 |
| TMavica | seem the device not support | 10:22 |
| gexc | and I cannot find 4G signals | 10:22 |
| TMavica | i just watch jolla baidu | 10:23 |
| gexc | but I do not even know if there is 4G singal around | 10:24 |
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| Stskeeps | no LTE in china, AFAIK | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | at least not the one we'd support | 10:24 |
| gexc | hmm... | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | (ie, china is TD-LTE) | 10:25 |
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| gexc | there is rumor for plans of FDD | 10:26 |
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| gexc | but not official :-/ | 10:26 |
| * Stskeeps really wish for more common standards | 10:27 | |
| gexc | if the rumors are true then china unicom will have FDD at 2100MHz | 10:28 |
| gexc | but, well, rumors LOL | 10:28 |
| gexc | currently TD oly | 10:28 |
| TMavica | no LTE FDD in china? | 10:29 |
| * ShadowJK would imagine TDD is more energy efficient for irc :D | 10:30 | |
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| gexc | not yet | 10:30 |
| * gexc found the play/stop/next song media shortcuts works | 10:30 | |
| TMavica | Hong kong have operator use TD-LTE, but not widely use | 10:31 |
| gexc | even at the home screen, sweet | 10:31 |
| TMavica | 中移動香港 | 10:31 |
| TMavica | only this | 10:31 |
| gexc | doesn't china mobile in HK use WCDMA/FDD? | 10:31 |
| gexc | it is forced to go TD in the mainland thanks to the gov | 10:32 |
| TMavica | they have both TD-LTE and LTE-FDD | 10:33 |
| TMavica | run as dual | 10:33 |
| gexc | well... | 10:33 |
| TMavica | but as i know, the reception is poor | 10:34 |
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| rostbach | wpa_supplicant bug is not resolved, so for all those enterprise WPA users (eduroam etc.) you still need to downgrade wpa_supplicant and manually install rpm packet | 10:39 |
| rostbach | check Apr 12'2014 https://together.jolla.com/question/315/wpa-8021x-enteprise-others-wifi-support-needed-workaround/ | 10:40 |
| gexc | hmm... just found some 4G signal, china telecom perhaps | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | how do you search? with jolla? | 10:44 |
| gexc | manual selection of network | 10:45 |
| sharpneli | Oh man the screen eats power when at full brightness compared to the setting bit less than half. Over 0.5W difference. | 10:45 |
| tigeli | gexc: you need to set the device to lte-only mode before that | 10:45 |
| gexc | besides CMCC (china mobile GSM), China Unicom (which I'm using), there are two entries: 46003 and 46011 | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | sharpneli: screen is one of the most power consuming things indeed.. | 10:45 |
| gexc | a quick search reveals that they belong to China Telecom | 10:46 |
| gexc | China Telecom operates CDMA2000 for 3G | 10:46 |
| gexc | rumor says it may have FDD for 4G | 10:47 |
| Nicd- | what does it mean when I have an alternating empty wlan and mobile data with exclamation mark sign? | 10:47 |
| SK_work | Nicd-: that connectivity stuff went mad | 10:47 |
| SK_work | Nicd-: or because you are too far away from wlan or data | 10:47 |
| Nicd- | I'm well in range | 10:48 |
| Nicd- | I can connect manually from the WLAN settings just fine | 10:48 |
| gexc | tigerli: set LTE only, yes | 10:48 |
| Scelt | Nicd-: http://jollassa.fi/2014/05/dual-network-or-is-it/ - I had the opposite. Both working at the same time :-D | 10:49 |
| sdjayna | [PSA] the issue's we've been having with the store *should* be fixed now, if anyone still has issues please ping me, will update together.j.c in a bit | 10:50 |
| TMavica | sdjayna fixed? i try now | 10:52 |
| sharpneli | Stskeeps: Based on my testing reducing the brightness pretty much halves the general idle power consumption (when screen is on). That's instant double battery life right there. I knew it was big but I had not thought it would be _that_ big O_o | 10:53 |
| sdjayna | TMavica: well give it a go, at least applications should install, my apps looks like it might need more work | 10:53 |
| TMavica | maps still cant update | 10:54 |
| sdjayna | TMavica: okay, thanks, checking.. | 10:54 |
| TMavica | updating keep tuning | 10:55 |
| TMavica | seem i still cant install apps.. | 10:57 |
| TMavica | keep waiting | 10:57 |
| sdjayna | TMavica: okay, working on it, will get back to you - that might be a distinct issue | 10:57 |
| TMavica | region problem? | 10:58 |
| TMavica | do i need give u my Jolla acc? | 10:58 |
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| sdjayna | TMavica: nah everyone gets the same stuff, thanks but it's okay, got the logs.. | 11:02 |
| TMavica | ok | 11:02 |
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| netzvieh | sdjayna: I can install apps, and they show up in "my apps", but other than that "my apps" is still empty | 11:07 |
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| netzvieh | maps update works for me now, and maps shows up in "my apps" after update | 11:14 |
| sdjayna | netzvieh: thanks, good that you can do that now but yes, we're still seeing missing my apps for some people.. | 11:14 |
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| sdjayna | netzvieh: don't suppose you have a few moments to test something for me? you should end up with my apps by the end of it ;) | 11:29 |
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| netzvieh | sdjayna: sure | 11:34 |
| sdjayna | netzvieh: great…step 1/2 involves rebooting, and checking my apps to see if it now appears | 11:35 |
| sdjayna | netzvieh: if it does great, if it doesn't, could you 'update your credentials' for the jolla account, and check my apps again | 11:36 |
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| netzvieh | sdjayna: nope, no change | 11:38 |
| sdjayna | netzvieh: after the reboot, or after both? | 11:39 |
| netzvieh | no change after reboot alone | 11:39 |
| netzvieh | updating sign-in creds helped :) | 11:39 |
| sdjayna | netzvieh: ahh okay, good and bad..brilliant thanks for your help | 11:40 |
| TMavica | i can see apps installed, but cant install new app.. | 11:40 |
| netzvieh | you're welcome =) | 11:40 |
| sdjayna | TMavica: wondering if you have a different issue, will get to yours after we've sorted this one | 11:41 |
| TMavica | ok.. | 11:42 |
| TMavica | my fd also same problem | 11:42 |
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| the_mgt | so, if I have a local openfire xmpp server, do I still need to work around that dreaded ssl issue? | 12:10 |
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| the_mgt | why can't jolla at least give a hinting error messagen... | 12:10 |
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| chem|st | if anyone minds to read https://together.jolla.com/question/40802/how-to-format-your-usd-card-to-btrfs-and-share-space-with-android/ | 12:12 |
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| chem|st | Aard: ^^ not bulletproof but as good as I get atm, that systemd stuff is a pain, I wanted to have a .mount but did not get it to work... | 12:13 |
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| Nicd- | http://www.asmocharger.com/en/ -- more innovations from finland. though I'm skeptical about what they claim but could be interesting | 12:24 |
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| flux | I think it can work as described, but I wonder if it also starts charging when you connect the device, or do you need to manually activate it | 12:27 |
| Nicd- | it says it starts automatically | 12:27 |
| Nicd- | it wouldn't be too useful otherwise... :) | 12:27 |
| flux | sure it would be? | 12:28 |
| Nicd- | well, semi-useful | 12:28 |
| flux | I guess another alternative is to have another low-current (microamper-level) power supply circuit in controlling the other. which might be more expensive than the default chargers. | 12:29 |
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| tobiski | Hmm, di the latest update change something about pc-usb connectivity? | 12:31 |
| tobiski | I try to plug-in my phone to pc and select "PC Connection" when the question pops up but can't see the device on pc | 12:31 |
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| phdeswer | tobiski: I think the MTP service has been updated but it should work... What OS are you on? | 12:32 |
| tobiski | Windows 8.1 | 12:32 |
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| tobiski | I removed the device drivers just now and plugged in, let's see if it works after fresh drivers | 12:33 |
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| tobiski | Devices & Printers shows Sailfish and status is "Troubleshoot is needed", let's see if it manages to install needed drivers | 12:36 |
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| tobiski | Could be also that windows updates have changed something | 12:36 |
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| tobiski | oh nice, now it shows. Windows couldn't install all the required drivers when I plugged the phone to usb but had to install them through troubleshooting | 12:37 |
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| tobiski | ... or it didn't manage to install any of the drivers troubleshooting found missing, but it works now nevertheless :D | 12:39 |
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| khertan | Hi | 12:57 |
| khertan | hdmi_msm hdmi_msm.1: hdmi_msm_hpd_on: Failed to enable 5V regulator. Error=-19 | 12:57 |
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| Stskeeps | ignore, not interesting | 12:57 |
| khertan | ok | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | (and no, no hdmi out..) | 12:57 |
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| khertan | juin 11 14:45:53 Jolla ofonod[780]: sms received, smsc_len is 8 | 12:58 |
| khertan | juin 11 14:45:53 Jolla ofonod[780]: ME Download message ignored | 12:58 |
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| khertan | no sms, that s was a call | 12:58 |
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| khertan | the one i miss | 12:59 |
| khertan | the call that jolla or Free operator miss | 12:59 |
| khertan | to be exact :) | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 13:00 |
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| khertan | Stskeeps: and after some search on google, many user have problem with Free.fr operator | 13:02 |
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| khertan | Stskeeps: with all kind of phone | 13:02 |
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| mornfall | so anyone else has noticed the glance screen yet? :) | 13:08 |
| ggabriel | mornfall: huh? | 13:08 |
| mornfall | I guess not then. :-) | 13:09 |
| ggabriel | well, not sure what a glance screen is | 13:09 |
| mornfall | the proximity sensor activates a black screen with the same bits of info as the lock screen has | 13:09 |
| mornfall | fades back away after a short while | 13:10 |
| mornfall | clau3 couldn't reproduce it yesterday tho | 13:10 |
| ggabriel | you mean when you take it out of the pocket? | 13:10 |
| mornfall | yep | 13:10 |
| ggabriel | yeah, cna't reproduce here either | 13:11 |
| ggabriel | you have a lock screen? | 13:11 |
| mornfall | well, the screen that shows first when you unlock is what I meant | 13:11 |
| ggabriel | i guess i meant that maybe it doesn't work with lock screen | 13:12 |
| mornfall | you get the same info automatically now, but you still have to tap it to make it flickable | 13:12 |
| mornfall | I have no idea what a lock screen would be, then. :) | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | what glance screen? | 13:12 |
| ggabriel | password | 13:13 |
| mornfall | ah, device lock | 13:13 |
| mornfall | lemme see | 13:13 |
| ggabriel | mornfall: nah | 13:13 |
| ggabriel | doesn't happen :P | 13:13 |
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| mornfall | ggabriel: there is a timeout, if you lock the phone it won't react immediately | 13:14 |
| mornfall | 20s or so | 13:14 |
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| Nicd- | how do you trigger the glance screen? | 13:15 |
| mornfall | Nicd-: cover the proximity sensor and then uncover it | 13:15 |
| mornfall | I thought you need to have it covered for 5s at least, but doesn't seem to be actually the case | 13:15 |
| Nicd- | nothing happens for me | 13:15 |
| mornfall | I guess my phone is broken. :D | 13:16 |
| mornfall | In a very funny way... | 13:16 |
| Nicd- | you can reproduce it? | 13:16 |
| ggabriel | mornfall: that's a good theory | 13:16 |
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| Nicd- | video it for us :P | 13:16 |
| mornfall | works with a device lock to | 13:16 |
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| ggabriel | maybe it unlocks when it shouldn't | 13:16 |
| mornfall | nope | 13:16 |
| mornfall | it's not unlocking, you still need to tap the screen, and it has a black background | 13:17 |
| ggabriel | strange | 13:17 |
| mornfall | I don't have any other cameraphone around, so can't really make a video. | 13:17 |
| mornfall | Stskeeps: you don't know about it? :-) | 13:21 |
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| Stskeeps | mornfall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6EaoPMANQM | 13:22 |
| mornfall | it works very much like described here, https://together.jolla.com/question/937/glance-screen/ | 13:22 |
| mornfall | Stskeeps: I see! | 13:24 |
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| Sailor8408 | after fresh install and new update, can,t enter code to mitakuuluu | 13:28 |
| Sailor8408 | need i register again or is some solution | 13:29 |
| coderus | Sailor8408: what you mean? | 13:29 |
| Sailor8408 | i have allready code to mitakuuluu but can't enter it | 13:31 |
| coderus | Sailor8408: you can't use old code, obliviously :D | 13:31 |
| coderus | Sailor8408: and error message should explain your problem, if you read it :) | 13:31 |
| Sailor8408 | heh is my messages still there | 13:32 |
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| Sailor8408 | coderus: i dont get any error message, i see i have code but its not highlighted | 13:36 |
| coderus | Sailor8408: any problems in requesting new code? Why you looking for new problems? :D | 13:37 |
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| Sailor8408 | coderus:maybe i need to request new code then :D thanks for your good work man! | 13:39 |
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| coderus | Sailor8408: i never understand why users ignoring common ways and searching for problems every time :D | 13:40 |
| pa | do you know whether it is possible to access separately each of the microphones on board on sailfish? | 13:42 |
| Sailor8408 | coderus:yeah maybe thinking so hard way : D | 13:43 |
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| bennypr0fane | does anyone know what the default location for storing backups is? | 13:46 |
| ggabriel | ~/.vault | 13:47 |
| bennypr0fane | it says here: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201890427 "It is recommended to take a backup of the data in your phone and copy it to an SD card " That sounds like backups are normally NOT stored on the sd card | 13:47 |
| ggabriel | bennypr0fane: yes, they are in ~/.vault | 13:48 |
| flux | it sort of would make sense to put backups where they are still accessible after the phone goes fubar ;) | 13:48 |
| bennypr0fane | what is the path to the sdcard? bcs there are like 3 direcories in file system called sdcard, I'm confused | 13:48 |
| flux | (though I would love support for network backup) | 13:48 |
| giucam | bennypr0fane: just use the "export to sd card" from the pulley menu | 13:48 |
| giucam | you don't need to copy it manually | 13:48 |
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| ggabriel | bennypr0fane: /media/sd[tab][tab][tab] :P | 13:49 |
| ggabriel | ah, didn't know about the option that giucam mentions | 13:49 |
| bennypr0fane | giucam, it said "no space on device, copy to sdcard" does that mean it did copy, or it wants me to copy, or...? | 13:50 |
| bennypr0fane | ggabriel, me neither! | 13:50 |
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| giucam | while exporting? | 13:50 |
| flux | nice to know about that, I've always made a tar of ~/.vault manually | 13:51 |
| bennypr0fane | giucam, yes | 13:51 |
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| ggabriel | just tried it, it failed | 13:51 |
| ggabriel | i don't really care too much :P | 13:51 |
| giucam | bennypr0fane: mmh, not sure about that. deztructor? ↑ | 13:51 |
| bennypr0fane | also, that sounds like it'll make one single .tar file from *all* the existing backups. i.e. not like it'll be able to automatically a single backup from there, but first need to unpackn the .tar | 13:53 |
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| flux | i think .vault contains all the backups | 13:55 |
| flux | probably separated by git tags | 13:55 |
| flux | so the backup.tar would contain the .vault | 13:55 |
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| flux | so you typically would not unpack a single backup | 13:58 |
| flux | btw, there are two options: copy to memory card, restore from memory card | 13:59 |
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| FireFly | I just clone the .vault repo to my laptop | 14:00 |
| FireFly | or, well, pull | 14:00 |
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| clau2 | it's probably a good idea to tar it first | 14:03 |
| bennypr0fane | I could just copy .vault over to my pc, and tar it there, yes? | 14:03 |
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| bennypr0fane | aha, so -vault is a git repo? git is being used for everything these days, isn't it? | 14:04 |
| clau2 | better tar on phone, so that all the attributes are stored | 14:04 |
| clau2 | or use rsync | 14:04 |
| bennypr0fane | giucam, that isn't working, like i said | 14:05 |
| bennypr0fane | giucam,oops sorry, just responded to a prvious line of yours | 14:05 |
| flux | not sure if git is the best match for .vault though | 14:05 |
| clau2 | tho, I don't know if using rsync might produce orphan files (ie. files removed that are copied back, and should not really exist, or such) | 14:06 |
| flux | it may become a time in future when someone wants to remove something from it :-) | 14:06 |
| flux | obnam might be a better fit actually | 14:06 |
| bennypr0fane | is there a gui app for making tarballs? if so, will it find hidden files? | 14:06 |
| flux | as it does deduplication and ability to purge old backups | 14:07 |
| bennypr0fane | file brwoser does not, it seems | 14:07 |
| flux | (plus it can do encryption) | 14:07 |
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| Nav | echo "2014-06-11 JS - Server patched" > /patched.txt | 14:08 |
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| bennypr0fane | I cannot locate ~/.vault. is it /home/nemo/.vault or /home/.vault? | 14:08 |
| Nav | oops :-) | 14:08 |
| flux | bennypr0fane, /home/nemo/.vault | 14:09 |
| Nicd- | bennypr0fane: ~ means home folder, in this case /home/nemo | 14:09 |
| Nicd- | Nav: why would you write that to the root folder? :o | 14:10 |
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| bennypr0fane | oops, just found like a dozen system backup files on my sdcard. must be from n900. anyone recognize this format: "<date>optfs.tar" and "<date>rootfs.tar"? | 14:11 |
| ggabriel | bennypr0fane: yeah, sorry, it's like Nicd- says... too lazy to write $HOME or /home/nemo | 14:11 |
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| gexc | has anyone tried shift key on a BT beyboard? | 14:14 |
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| gexc | nevermind, something wrong with my keyboard perhaps | 14:20 |
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| bennypr0fane | ah, moving to sdcard works now, what a relief. that funny error message acutally meant "not enough space on sdcard" it seems. | 14:23 |
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| * gexc puts all android apps in folders and finds harmony within the launcher | 15:04 | |
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| TMavica | any news about store problem? | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | should be better now? | 15:54 |
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| sdjayna1 | TMavica: last stages of fixing it across the board for all accounts, you can do Settings->Accounts->Jolla->update sign-in credentials (pulley) to force the issue now | 16:01 |
| sdjayna1 | TMavica: if that fails, you're probably got a different issue, let me have your jolla account id and we'll take it from there | 16:02 |
| TMavica | i try now | 16:03 |
| TMavica | wait | 16:03 |
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| TMavica | how come I cant update it..it said problem with sign in jolla acc.. | 16:06 |
| sdjayna1 | TMavica: okay checking, what's your accound id? you can pm it to me if you wish | 16:07 |
| TMavica | same as my name | 16:07 |
| TMavica | lol | 16:07 |
| sdjayna1 | yeah, usual story, could have guessed... | 16:07 |
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| TMavica | really cant sign in, before is ok | 16:08 |
| sdjayna1 | TMavica: yup, got it, working on it……grr | 16:10 |
| TMavica | what wrong it is@@ | 16:10 |
| sdjayna1 | we're having some fun with accounts used on multiple devices.. | 16:10 |
| TMavica | LOL.. | 16:11 |
| TMavica | multiple device@@? i seem only login 1 device only | 16:11 |
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| sdjayna1 | TMavica: yeah, i'm guessing at some point in the past, you've logged on with that account on another device.. | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | n950/n9 ? | 16:13 |
| TMavica | o | 16:13 |
| TMavica | yes | 16:13 |
| TMavica | LOL>. | 16:13 |
| TMavica | my fd still cant too, but she can update the acc | 16:14 |
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| roboro | mmmm everyone is talking about apps in folders... I haven't worked out how to do this yet... how does this work? | 16:28 |
| sdjayna1 | TMavica: offending db entries cleaned up, at the very least you should be able to sign in again | 16:28 |
| roboro | someone needs to update the jolla users guide :/ | 16:28 |
| ninnnu | roboro: drag an app on top of another | 16:29 |
| roboro | ah | 16:30 |
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| TMavica | ok i try now | 16:30 |
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| TMavica | can sign in | 16:32 |
| sdjayna1 | TMavica: cool, soo….how's that map update, let's try and get to the bottom of that | 16:32 |
| TMavica | but still cant dl apps or update | 16:33 |
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| teaburn | hi | 16:33 |
| sdjayna1 | TMavica: okay..i presume you're on the latest release? | 16:33 |
| roboro | ninnnu: thanks | 16:33 |
| teaburn | does anyone have a working caldav sync with owncloud? | 16:34 |
| TMavica | yes, latest 1.0716 | 16:34 |
| sdjayna1 | TMavica: could you pastebin me the output of "ssu lr" and "ssu s" if possible? | 16:34 |
| TMavica | u mean when i progressing updating, then do this ? | 16:35 |
| teaburn | i found my calendar but nothing happens when i sync | 16:35 |
| sdjayna1 | TMavica: just do it in the terminal now is fine, no need to try and update anything | 16:36 |
| TMavica | ok. | 16:36 |
| TMavica | wait | 16:36 |
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| TMavica | sdjayna1: http://pastebin.com/NaH8Yisk | 16:42 |
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| sdjayna1 | TMavica: thanks, and "ssu lr"? | 16:43 |
| TMavica | adjayna1: http://pastebin.com/AiTGeUyG | 16:43 |
| sdjayna1 | ahh | 16:43 |
| TMavica | ?? | 16:43 |
| sdjayna1 | TMavica: thanks, checking.. | 16:44 |
| khertan | Stskeeps: you ll laught, i got the answer about missed call, there is an option to reject anonymous call that can be disabled on the web site, but which is enabled by default | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | khertan: yes | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | i am shocked | 16:44 |
| khertan | :) | 16:44 |
| TMavica | i feel it is normal | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | well, not 50% of them | 16:44 |
| khertan | 50% | 16:45 |
| khertan | ? | 16:45 |
| Stskeeps | oh | 16:45 |
| Stskeeps | 1/2 meant 1 out of two messages | 16:45 |
| khertan | yes | 16:45 |
| Stskeeps | makes more sense | 16:45 |
| khertan | i forgot the 2/2 tag in second | 16:45 |
| khertan | message | 16:45 |
| SK_work | khertan: lol wtf ? | 16:46 |
| SK_work | is this serious ? | 16:46 |
| khertan | SK_work: yes | 16:46 |
| SK_work | that's pretty stupid from Free | 16:46 |
| khertan | i call someone i know at free to take a look at what happen | 16:46 |
| SK_work | good to know people at Free then :D | 16:47 |
| khertan | SK_work: :) | 16:47 |
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| khertan | SK_work: it s more easy to investigate with some logs ... (BURN SYSTEMD BURN !!!) | 16:47 |
| khertan | :p | 16:47 |
| SK_work | khertan: :D | 16:47 |
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| teaburn | can anyone help me with caldav and owncloud? | 16:48 |
| khertan | teaburn: what s the problem ? | 16:48 |
| sdjayna1 | TMavica: on the face of it, it looks okay, so we're going to have to dig a bit deeper on our side | 16:48 |
| TMavica | sad | 16:48 |
| teaburn | i configured it and choose my calendars, but there is no sync | 16:49 |
| sdjayna1 | TMavica: you're telling me, this is no fun at all.. | 16:49 |
| khertan | teaburn: take a look at logs | 16:49 |
| teaburn | on the jolla? | 16:49 |
| khertan | teaburn: when i test it a php module was missing and generate a php class error | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | khertan: still no reboots btw? | 16:49 |
| khertan | on your access.log on server | 16:49 |
| TMavica | wait ur news. | 16:49 |
| khertan | Stskeeps: none ... except on due to heat | 16:50 |
| teaburn | there is no connection, i didnt see any packet on the tcpdump | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | khertan: ok, heat is a bit more natural | 16:50 |
| khertan | but that s didn t count ... 50c in car isnt a nice env | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | uh-huh | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | not for dogs or children, either | 16:50 |
| khertan | no but i was in | 16:50 |
| khertan | Stskeeps: but i m really surprize as optima said they change sim holder only | 16:52 |
| SK_work | khertan: you know, sim holder is the most important part of any phone | 16:53 |
| SK_work | contains all the intelligence etc | 16:53 |
| SK_work | :P | 16:53 |
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| chem|st | Stskeeps: android apps in separated windows (are you guys somewhat sane?) | 18:01 |
| netzvieh | teaburn: prob a bit late, but you might want to ask in #sync, there are the guys working on the sync stuff. though owncloud is not fully supported iirc | 18:08 |
| teaburn | thx | 18:09 |
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| Stskeeps | chem|st: since when.. | 18:14 |
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| CoderCandy | The latest Jolla update fixed my probably no 1 thing I wanted | 18:34 |
| CoderCandy | MP3 playback in Spotify for Android | 18:34 |
| CoderCandy | I can now sync my music from my computer to my spotify client in the phone | 18:34 |
| CoderCandy | and have it actually play! | 18:34 |
| AL13N | btw: did anyone test out PBAB? | 18:34 |
| * CoderCandy does a small dance | 18:34 | |
| jake9xx | CoderCandy: :) | 18:34 |
| AL13N | i wasn't quite successful with my parrot | 18:34 |
| AL13N | first was because the bluetooth name was the name of a previous other paired device, so i removed that device from the list | 18:35 |
| AL13N | then i could enter the pin on my phone, but the parrot had already errored out by then... | 18:35 |
| AL13N | the parrot has some extra advanced setup stuff and modes, but i donno which one to use | 18:36 |
| AL13N | anyone any idea who i can talk to, to try PBAB with the car kit (parrot) and what kind of options i should use? | 18:36 |
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| Turski | CoderCandy: doesn't spotify use ogg? | 18:51 |
| netzvieh | hmm, is it possible to mount an nfs share to ~/Music/nfs and have the musicplayer play from it, without having those entries in the media player, when I'm out of reach of my home network? | 18:53 |
| netzvieh | and has anyone found an upper limit for the # of songs, if you want the media player to be still usable? | 18:53 |
| jake9xx | netzvieh: if you run subfolder under 'music' tracker should pick them up? | 18:54 |
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| netzvieh | jake9xx: yeah, but what if the nfs share isn't available (e.g. I'm not in the wlan), does the tracker realize that in a timely fashion? (and can in index multiple thousand songs in < 5min?) | 18:56 |
| jake9xx | uhmm | 18:56 |
| jake9xx | tracker will get that info yes but dunno if it happens in real-tinem | 18:56 |
| jake9xx | time | 18:56 |
| special | try it and find out | 18:57 |
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| netzvieh | special: will do, just thought maybe someone has tried this already ;) is there a way to tell tracker to start indexing? | 18:58 |
| special | tracker-control something | 18:58 |
| netzvieh | ah thanks | 18:59 |
| Turski | i would believe tracker gets a notification from inotify | 18:59 |
| attah | perhaps you can stop-and-swap the database, triggered by the state of the nfs mount.. | 18:59 |
| attah | -b, --backup=FILE Backup databases to the file provided | 19:01 |
| attah | -o, --restore=FILE Restore databases from the file provided | 19:01 |
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| kimmoli | Stskeeps: ping | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | kimmoli: pong | 19:30 |
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| kimmoli | . /sys/class/gpio | 19:30 |
| kimmoli | i cant even export it | 19:30 |
| kimmoli | gpio67 | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | okay, and you used to be able to do this as nemo user..? | 19:31 |
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| kimmoli | yes | 19:31 |
| Stskeeps | hmmm | 19:31 |
| Stskeeps | kimmoli: ls -al of them now are..? | 19:31 |
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| kimmoli | mom | 19:31 |
| kimmoli | root root ? | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 19:32 |
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| kimmoli | my old version phone is not-at-home now, so icant check | 19:33 |
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| * Stskeeps takes a look at changelog | 19:34 | |
| ortylp | hi, can anyone tell me where can I find fsck.btrfs? | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | isn't it like a return 0 anyway? | 19:36 |
| ortylp | pkcon install btrfs-tools | 19:36 |
| ortylp | fails | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | btrfs-progs or btrfs-tools? | 19:36 |
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| Stskeeps | should be preinstaller | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | +d | 19:36 |
| ortylp | fsck /dev/mmcblk1p1 | 19:36 |
| ortylp | fsck from util-linux 2.22.2 | 19:36 |
| ortylp | fsck: fsck.btrfs: not found | 19:36 |
| ortylp | fsck: error 2 while executing fsck.btrfs for /dev/mmcblk1p1 | 19:36 |
| * kimmoli goes to get cold one | 19:36 | |
| Sailor356 | hi guys. im looking for a way to get access to a shared folder in a windows network with my jolla. | 19:37 |
| kimmoli | samba by tbr | 19:38 |
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| Stskeeps | ortylp: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ#What.27s_the_difference_between_btrfsck_and_fsck.btrfs | 19:38 |
| Sailor356 | what is.tbr | 19:38 |
| coderus | Sailor356: tbr is person | 19:39 |
| kimmoli | who is tbr is the question | 19:39 |
| tbr | nnnnnnnobody expects the SPANISH INQUISITION! | 19:39 |
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| ortylp | Stskeeps: thanks, that explains it... | 19:39 |
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| ortylp | maybe some info the UX for the user, that the filesystem on the sdcard is borked would sometimes help... | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | kimmoli: my only guess is that new systemd is acting differently, atm | 19:42 |
| kimmoli | damn | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | if you can check a 1.0.5.19 i'd be very happy | 19:43 |
| Stskeeps | Aard: ^ | 19:43 |
| Stskeeps | i checked changelog | 19:43 |
| * kimmoli blames kimmoli | 19:44 | |
| ortylp | VDVsx: hi, can you tell me, where do I have to put my selfsigned certificate for IMAP/SMTP connections so that the email client will check it and trust it? | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | kimmoli: can you prod me about again this tomorrow in daytime so i can chase down with people? | 19:45 |
| kimmoli | ookoo | 19:46 |
| CoderCandy | Turski: not for local files | 19:49 |
| CoderCandy | well it does | 19:49 |
| CoderCandy | But I have imported MP3's into spotify on my desktop | 19:49 |
| CoderCandy | and spotify can sync files to its android client | 19:49 |
| Turski | CoderCandy: oh, didn't know about such feature | 19:50 |
| CoderCandy | So I synced my MP3s to my Jolla, but it has been unable to play local mp3s | 19:50 |
| Turski | i've been using only cutespotify | 19:50 |
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| CoderCandy | Yeah, I've been using that as well, since the feature I miss from cutespotify has been borked. | 19:51 |
| CoderCandy | But after each update I do another attempt at playing local mp3 files | 19:51 |
| CoderCandy | And THIS time it WORKED! | 19:51 |
| kimmoli | hmm... seems that jolla browser does not have quickscroll.. | 19:53 |
| tbr | ortylp: that was explained on TJC, no? | 19:55 |
| ortylp | not really | 19:56 |
| tbr | I'm really sure it was. Let me look it up for you. | 19:56 |
| ortylp | tbr: I have copied and linked the certificate at /etc/ but it did not work for the email client | 19:57 |
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| tbr | ortylp: https://together.jolla.com/question/2949/where-can-i-add-a-system-ca-certificate/ | 19:57 |
| sdjayna | TMavica: we *think* we've solved your issue, sorry it's taking so long, would you mind just trying to install an app again? | 19:57 |
| ortylp | tbr: I have followed these instructions, but the email client still says "check certificate" | 19:58 |
| tbr | ortylp: have you verified using s_client as user that the certificate was properly installed and recognized? | 20:00 |
| ortylp | tbr: so the problem is: can anyone confirm, that the email client will accept selfsigned certificates added at the system level | 20:00 |
| ortylp | tbr: not yet, I'll do that now | 20:01 |
| tbr | IIRC I'm using a ca-cert certificate for my mail server... | 20:01 |
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| ortylp | tbr: what should I get if it works? | 20:06 |
| ortylp | tbr: I get | 20:07 |
| ortylp | verify error:num=18:self signed certificate | 20:07 |
| ortylp | verify return:1 | 20:07 |
| tbr | a connection to your server | 20:07 |
| tbr | ortylp: IIRC you need at least a CA and you import the key of the CA, not the server certificate. YMMV | 20:08 |
| ortylp | tbr: yes it connected | 20:08 |
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| tbr | well you still get the self signed message | 20:08 |
| tbr | that should go away if it recognizes the ca | 20:08 |
| ortylp | tbr: OK, AFAIK self signed certificate is CA in itself... | 20:09 |
| Sailor356 | mount -t cifs //<ip>/<share> <local> -o username=John,password=Doe didn't work. it will log in with root | 20:10 |
| tbr | I'm not sure about those intricacies. I always use at least a dummy CA | 20:10 |
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| kimmoli | Sailor356: devel-su mount -t cifs //192.168.6.66/oma ./koto -o username=minaitte | 20:13 |
| kimmoli | that works for me | 20:13 |
| Sailor356 | im already root | 20:14 |
| ortylp | tbr: thanks for the help, I'll try to reach VDVsx so that he can tell me if selfsigned certificates will work or not | 20:15 |
| tbr | ortylp: I'm pretty sure it hinges on what you saw and that is essentially a generic linux / openssl problem | 20:17 |
| ortylp | tbr: K9 and thunderbird use "trust on first use" after showing the certificate to the user and asking for confirmation | 20:18 |
| tbr | ortylp: they don't use openssl though, do they... | 20:18 |
| ortylp | tbr: no idea | 20:19 |
| tbr | hint: no, at least thunderbird uses NSS | 20:19 |
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| clau2 | standby related timers are a mess :(. | 20:40 |
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| Sailor356 | kimmoli: can't find a solution | 20:41 |
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| clau2 | sometimes phone doesn't go to sleep at all, sometimes it goes to sleep after unlocking and going to home screen or even app, immediately. other times it waits 30s (current setting ) while in lock screen. | 20:42 |
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| kimmoli | Sailor356: and you have samba installed? | 20:42 |
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| Sailor356 | kimmoli: only.cifs.utils | 20:43 |
| kimmoli | ok | 20:43 |
| kimmoli | i have samba installed, tested connection smbcleint | 20:44 |
| kimmoli | ** tested connection first with smbclient | 20:44 |
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| Sailor356 | with 'mount.cifs' it works fine | 20:56 |
| Sailor356 | available in the warehouse store | 20:56 |
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| Andy80 | hi guys | 20:57 |
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| Andy80 | a quick question.... why all Facebook notifications, if I click on it, have "Open in Facebook" button? I remember (I'm not crazy!) that yesterday they were all working fine... I could read coments, put a "Like" etc.... I just could not see the photos posted in a comment... but everything else was fine... what happened? | 20:58 |
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| * artemma_ reset device, did all SW updates (two until latest SW) and ended up with a Jolla Browser not able to click links almost anywhere (once I think it reacted to a click on jolla.com page). Any ideas-advices? | 21:58 | |
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| pdanek | http://www.phonedog.com/videos/jolla-unboxing-and-first-look-at-sailfish-os/ | 22:00 |
| pdanek | new review | 22:00 |
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| netzvieh | hmm does the backup/restore work reliable and includes android app data (e.g. textsecure keys) | 22:01 |
| artemma_ | in my case, Jolla told there is no backup on memory card | 22:03 |
| artemma_ | while I did start reset procedure with yet another backup | 22:04 |
| artemma_ | possibly it was not stored on memory card by default? | 22:04 |
| artemma_ | though unlikely as mem card seems to be fully wiped after reset | 22:04 |
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| netzvieh | i think default isn't the sd card but somewhere in /home/nemo. iirc vault or smth like that | 22:09 |
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| netzvieh | .vault | 22:09 |
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| pdanek | Firefox was really dead in the beginning and nobody knew about it, yet now it starts selling and its future looks bright. | 22:18 |
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| pdanek | Do you expect the same with Sailfish? | 22:18 |
| pdanek | That in 1+ year, it will start moving? | 22:18 |
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| netzvieh | pdanek: firefox was dead? oO | 22:27 |
| netzvieh | or you talking about ffos? | 22:27 |
| netzvieh | oh and there's no nfs in default repos? | 22:28 |
| netzvieh | damn | 22:28 |
| special | pdanek: personally, I expect one billion sales by Q2 2015 | 22:29 |
| netzvieh | ah it's in the kernel | 22:31 |
| pdanek | Yes, FFOS sorry. | 22:32 |
| pdanek | special: no chance for one billion in q2 2015 | 22:33 |
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| special | there might be some small scaling challenges | 22:35 |
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| special | (it's after midnight, I hope you weren't expecting an intellectual discussion :p) | 22:36 |
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| netzvieh | hmm tracker indexed only half the files on the nfs share | 22:46 |
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| netzvieh | though playing the .m3u playlist works fine | 22:53 |
| netzvieh | there are times and tags missing for the files not indexed | 22:54 |
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