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| mornfall | hmm, I get a nearly invisible notification screen laid over lockscreen pretty often after the last update | 00:27 |
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| mornfall | but I had that before the update couple times | 00:27 |
| mornfall | (so not a new bug per se, just happens a lot more often now) | 00:28 |
| mornfall | hmm, I just don't know how to do it | 00:30 |
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| flux | so where does it 'odnwload' the upgrade when I press download? apparently not somewhere that persists over a reboot.. | 04:32 |
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| Nicd- | flux: it first downloads more ram from downloadmoreram.com to store the download itself | 04:41 |
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| flux | smart, should have expected jolla to do the right thing! | 04:42 |
| TMavica | anyone able to install apps in jolla store? | 04:43 |
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| gexc | there is no resuming if the update download has been interupted? | 04:47 |
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| Nicd- | so, how can I create a new contact on the phone and sync it to google? | 06:22 |
| Nicd- | or are all new contacts synced to all accounts where sync is on? | 06:23 |
| VDVsx | if 2-way sync is enabled for the acct, yes | 06:26 |
| VDVsx | all local contacts will be synced | 06:26 |
| Nicd- | ok, how often does the sync happen? | 06:26 |
| Nicd- | or what triggers it? it's set to "automatically" | 06:26 |
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| VDVsx | Nicd-, once per day at 5.00, happens if you open contacts app, IIRC | 06:36 |
| VDVsx | chriadam, ^ | 06:36 |
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| Nicd- | ok | 06:36 |
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| Nicd- | I'll try to do some testing. but it's an awesome feature, I've been waiting for this | 06:38 |
| * gexc installing the update | 06:38 | |
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| gexc | the downloadinglast for ages | 06:39 |
| narchie | anyone using owncloud caldav? | 06:39 |
| chriadam | Nicd-: if you edit a contact locally, it should trigger sync. | 06:39 |
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| Nicd- | how about when I create a new contact, chriadam? | 06:41 |
| chriadam | Nicd-: yes, creating a new local contact will also trigger sync | 06:41 |
| chriadam | any add/modify/delete locally will trigger sync, that's what the "sync automatically" option means. The semantics for which contact data gets synced where is a bit tricky, but basically we try not to contaminate any remote account with non-local contact information. | 06:42 |
| Nicd- | ok, I just didn't see anything in my google address book | 06:42 |
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| chriadam | Nicd-: hrm. is contactsd and msyncd both running? | 06:43 |
| chriadam | if so, try the following: | 06:44 |
| chriadam | systemctl --user stop msyncd | 06:44 |
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| chriadam | (wait a few seconds) | 06:44 |
| chriadam | SOCIALD_LOGGING_LEVEL=3 devel-su -p msyncd | 06:44 |
| Nicd- | I'll check | 06:44 |
| chriadam | then trigger a sync via jolla-settings / accounts / google account / pulley menu -> sync | 06:44 |
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| chriadam | and send the log of the msyncd window to chris dot adams at jolla dot com | 06:44 |
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| chriadam | (might want to redact access tokens from the log) | 06:45 |
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| TMavica | i can say the traditional chinese handwriting is good in recognation | 06:46 |
| Nicd- | chriadam: I guess I should've done this via ssh to capture the log... | 06:46 |
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| chriadam | Nicd-: ah, yeah | 06:47 |
| Nicd- | I'll just use tee | 06:47 |
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| Nicd- | chriadam: msyncd died | 06:48 |
| chriadam | !! | 06:48 |
| Nicd- | QThread: Destroyed while thread is still running | 06:48 |
| Merbot | chriadam: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 06:48 |
| chriadam | try: systemctl --user stop msyncd, then wait a few seconds, then ps axu | grep msyncd, if there are any processes left, kill -9 those pids. | 06:49 |
| chriadam | then try running it manually again, via the SOCIALD_LOGGING_LEVEL=3 devel-su -p msyncd | 06:49 |
| Nicd- | I can't see any msyncd in ps aux, do I need to be devel-su for ps to see all? | 06:50 |
| chriadam | shouldn't | 06:50 |
| chriadam | it's a nemo process | 06:50 |
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| chriadam | hrm, and running msyncd again results in the same error / crash? | 06:50 |
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| Nicd- | hmm, now I got tons of log | 06:52 |
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| chriadam | good :-) | 06:52 |
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| Nicd- | but it seems tee only saves stdout and not stderr. dammit | 06:53 |
| Nicd- | I did get "unable to store remote changes locally - aborting sync Google contacts for account 3" | 06:53 |
| chriadam | grargh | 06:53 |
| chriadam | that is a problem | 06:54 |
| Nicd- | before that a bunch of "invalid detail type 0" "error updating contact sql-756: 3" | 06:54 |
| Nicd- | with the number after sql- changing each time (756, 628, 510, 340) | 06:54 |
| chriadam | the number is the contact id | 06:54 |
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| chriadam | it seems a database schema upgrade happened to fail for you | 06:55 |
| chriadam | I will talk to Matt and try to figure out what went wrong... | 06:55 |
| Nicd- | aaand then fingerterm died :D | 06:55 |
| chriadam | depending on whether your database contains a lot of important, non-backed up information or not, you can probably get your device back to working state by doing: devel-su rm -rf /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Contacts/; devel-su -c reboot; | 06:56 |
| VDVsx | also don't forget to run as devel-su -p otherwise db errors will happen | 06:56 |
| chriadam | but obviously don't do that if you have contacts you need in there :-/ | 06:56 |
| Nicd- | VDVsx: I did | 06:56 |
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| Nicd- | I think all my contacts are from my google account, but I'll just mv it instead | 06:57 |
| Nicd- | just in case | 06:57 |
| Nicd- | I'll report back to you later today, if that's ok | 06:57 |
| chriadam | thanks. tomorrow, we might ask you to email the broken db to us, if we can't figure out what happened - obviously if you don't want to send it, due to the personal information in there, that's of course fine. it might not be necessary either. | 06:58 |
| chriadam | sure, thanks for your patience | 06:58 |
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| narchie | anyone using caldav? | 07:06 |
| narchie | Just configured my account, connection and auth seems to be working | 07:07 |
| narchie | oh | 07:07 |
| narchie | there I go | 07:07 |
| narchie | just had to wait | 07:07 |
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| narchie | wasn't seeing any calendars | 07:07 |
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| Nicd- | anyone else have "update available" for Maps? | 07:10 |
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| Nicd- | I have 1.0.3 and 1.0.12 is available | 07:10 |
| * gexc removing that piece of paper, hmm... | 07:10 | |
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| narchie | google account auth is still breaking | 07:14 |
| narchie | within minutes | 07:14 |
| Nicd- | hm, seems my maps app upgraded correctly | 07:14 |
| chriadam | narchie: can you send me the output of: devel-su journalctl | grep CredentialsNeedUpdate | 07:14 |
| narchie | sure | 07:14 |
| chriadam | narchie: do you use two-factor authentication or anything? | 07:14 |
| narchie | nope | 07:14 |
| chriadam | hrm. | 07:14 |
| faiden | I think the battery improved in the update =D | 07:15 |
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| Nicd- | chriadam: I'll try the mv + reboot thing now | 07:18 |
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| chriadam | cheers | 07:18 |
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| mfulz | can someone tell where the /home/nemo/android_storage is mounted in the new version? | 07:21 |
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| narchie | chriadam: http://paste.nerv.fi/preview/28578478/dump | 07:23 |
| chriadam | narchie: messageserver5 is what retrieves emails from gmail | 07:24 |
| chriadam | it's saying that the credentials aren't valid to retrieve your emails for some reason... | 07:24 |
| chriadam | VDVsx: ^ any ideas? | 07:24 |
| Nicd- | chriadam: all the contacts are here but no images were apparently synced | 07:25 |
| narchie | also found some errors with glib if you want to see | 07:25 |
| chriadam | Nicd-: avatars can take some time to trickle in. Google throttle API requests after a while, so it can take multiple sync cycles before all of the avatars have been downloaded. IIRC we download them in "chunks" of 100 at a time | 07:25 |
| chriadam | narchie: glib? or libaccounts-glib? | 07:25 |
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| chriadam | libaccounts-glib errors are generally not real errors, but yes definitely interested in seeing them | 07:26 |
| narchie | accounts-glib | 07:26 |
| Nicd- | chriadam: ok, I'll be patient | 07:26 |
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| VDVsx | chriadam, nop, it says that are invalid, not much happening there it tries with cached token and also two more time with new token before emitting that | 07:26 |
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| narchie | chriadam: I'll do another sign in, it seems to fail when I try to sync for the first time | 07:27 |
| chriadam | Nicd-: to double check, run `SOCIALD_LOGGING_LEVEL=3 devel-su -p msyncd` in one console, then trigger sync on the google account via the pulley menu, and check for a line like "downloading queued avatars" -- it should tell you how many were queued and how many remain etc | 07:27 |
| arnbak | missing the ability to choose which calendar to add a given event after the latest sailfishos update. Anyone else seeing this ? | 07:27 |
| narchie | arnbak: wait :) | 07:27 |
| VDVsx | chriadam, notification is already there before email sync fails | 07:27 |
| narchie | they came to me while typing here to ask the same question | 07:28 |
| arnbak | narchie: really ? :-) | 07:28 |
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| narchie | yeah it was just a slow sync | 07:28 |
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| arnbak | also, I'm not seeing all my google calendars | 07:28 |
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| narchie | couldn't see anything on my caldav endpoints but just as I was typing I got everything | 07:28 |
| chriadam | arnbak: you will only see the Google calendars which are owned by your gmail user. | 07:28 |
| chriadam | so, not shared calendars or system calendars | 07:29 |
| arnbak | chriadam: I'm seeing shared calendars not my own atm | 07:29 |
| chriadam | arnbak: uh, that's not good | 07:29 |
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| chriadam | either a bug in our sync code, or google is reporting those calendars as being owned by you | 07:29 |
| Nicd- | chriadam: still not seeing my new contact in my google contacts | 07:29 |
| Nicd- | don't know how often the gmail ui updates the contacts list though | 07:30 |
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| arnbak | chriadam: after this update, I can see my own calendar in the "manage calendars view" but none of the events in it. I see events from the shared calendar though. | 07:31 |
| chriadam | Nicd-: hrm. does the log say anything about " upsyncing local contact changes since:" and then some counts of locally added/modified/removed contacts which it is trying to upsync? | 07:31 |
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| arnbak | narchie: arh it appears now :-) | 07:32 |
| Nicd- | chriadam: I'll check in a while | 07:32 |
| arnbak | narchie: seems you're right :-) | 07:32 |
| chriadam | arnbak: two possibilities: 1) the events are being synced, but on the local device they aren't being associated with the correct notebook (calendar). 2) the events aren't being synced. | 07:32 |
| arnbak | chriadam: everything works as aspected now, seems there was something to sync. | 07:32 |
| chriadam | oh | 07:32 |
| chriadam | well, that's good :-) | 07:33 |
| chriadam | any other issues / strange behaviour, please ping me here or send me an email at chris dot adams at jolla dot com | 07:33 |
| arnbak | chriadam: I was to fast, things were synching when I started to write here :-) | 07:33 |
| chriadam | ah :-) yeah, that can happen :-) | 07:33 |
| narchie | chriadam: I have a dump from sign-in to fail | 07:34 |
| chriadam | narchie: that'd be very useful | 07:35 |
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| narchie | chriadam: http://paste.nerv.fi/preview/9860800 there, its ~250 lines and I didn't clean anything just in case | 07:37 |
| narchie | accounts-glib, buteo and google-settings.qml seem to be having the most problems if I understand anything | 07:38 |
| chriadam | Jun 10 10:30:28 Jolla [1227]: [D] Accounts::Account::Private::account_store_cb:551 - account.cpp: 551 account_store_cb Saved accunt ID: 3 | 07:38 |
| chriadam | Jun 10 10:30:28 Jolla [1227]: [W] AccountChangeListenerWorker::accountSynced:183 - "jolla-signon-ui: CredentialsNeedUpdate now true. From: message...sts: true" | 07:38 |
| chriadam | Jun 10 10:30:28 Jolla [1227]: [W] QCoreApplication::postEvent:1218 - QCoreApplication::postEvent: Unexpected null receiver | 07:38 |
| chriadam | Jun 10 10:30:28 Jolla creen[7926]: [D] EmailAgent::activityChanged:323 - Sync completed with Errors!!!. | 07:38 |
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| chriadam | the elided bit is presumably: From messageserver5 | 07:39 |
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| chriadam | alreayd exists: true | 07:39 |
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| chriadam | the post event failing... can be due to a thread being destroyed synchronously | 07:39 |
| chriadam | so an event posted to an object which lives in that thread, can't be delivered. | 07:39 |
| chriadam | not sure which process/object though :-/ | 07:39 |
| chriadam | hrm. | 07:39 |
| narchie | hmm | 07:39 |
| chriadam | two possibilities come to mind: | 07:40 |
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| chriadam | 1) the flag is currently "erroneously" set. signing in (via Update Credentials option) doesn't clear the flag properly, and the account save operation automatically triggers the sync (which fails, and then raises the flag... loop). | 07:41 |
| chriadam | 2) the flag is actually being set on purpose, because the credentials are somehow not good enough. This could be the case if we don't request enough scopes to retrieve email from your account... but if this was the case, I'd expect it to fail for me (and everyone else) too, so... not sure. | 07:41 |
| narchie | yeah | 07:42 |
| chriadam | I'm going to guess it's (1) that you're hitting :-/ It's destructive, but you might want ot think about deleting the account and re-adding it. The only other solution involves using sailfish-accounts-tool to set the CredentialsNeedUpdate values to false and the CredentialsNeedUpdateFrom values to "", for each service of your account. | 07:42 |
| chriadam | and then signing in again | 07:42 |
| mfulz | does anybody knows wehere this home-nemo-android_storage.mount is done? | 07:42 |
| narchie | oh I don't mind, I'll try both later | 07:43 |
| narchie | chriadam: thanks for the help :) | 07:44 |
| chriadam | mfulz: not sure, but /data/data is I believe the dalvik data location? may be wrong. the /home/nemo/android_storage mount might be for any sdcard which is inserted, but I know nothing about the android stuff tbh so I'm probably wrong. | 07:44 |
| Nicd- | chriadam: when running sync, msyncd died with '*** glibc detected *** Aborted' | 07:45 |
| mfulz | yep it was before this update easy to just mount bind the sdcard to a.e. /data/sdcard | 07:45 |
| mfulz | but now the android VM just uses /home/nemo/android_storage and tehre is always mounted the internal storage.... | 07:45 |
| mfulz | I want to mount my sdcard in there | 07:46 |
| chriadam | narchie: no problem. sailfish-accounts-tool has a fairly helpful usage text, so you should be able to figure out how to edit key/values using it. or do: `devel-su -p pkcon install libaccounts-glib-tools` so you can use ag-tool to inspect the account values and change them etc | 07:46 |
| chriadam | Nicd-: any chance you could get a gdb trace of that one? | 07:46 |
| pp | hmn, fb login ux is pretty nasty now | 07:46 |
| chriadam | or install Quick Feedback app from jolla-store and enable crash reporting via jolla-settings/system/crash reports | 07:46 |
| * pp removes and readds furiously | 07:47 | |
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| Nicd- | chriadam: I don't have gdm on this | 07:48 |
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| chriadam | pp: yeah, FB don't respect our user agent string. If we use a generic one, it serves that page. If we use one which causes a nice login page to be displayed, then other things refuse to render properly which can cause (in some situations) login flows to fail entirely. there's a TJC thread about one such problem. | 07:48 |
| chriadam | Nicd-: ok, all good. I wonder which plugin is doing the unsafe stuff :-/ | 07:48 |
| Nicd- | failed to load profile 'google.Contacts-3' | 07:49 |
| Nicd- | ahhh because I'm the wrong user | 07:49 |
| pp | hehe, account locked :D | 07:49 |
| pp | phew, it worked :-) | 07:50 |
| Nicd- | chriadam: it synced! | 07:51 |
| pp | (but had to remove/readd, first attempt updating the existing account just hung after entering fb sms security code etc.) | 07:51 |
| Nicd- | whaat | 07:51 |
| Nicd- | aaand I got a segfault | 07:52 |
| chriadam | Nicd-: !! | 07:52 |
| chriadam | ok now I'm really scared | 07:52 |
| Nicd- | will msyncd be automatically rebooted on segfaults? | 07:52 |
| chriadam | yes | 07:52 |
| Nicd- | ok | 07:52 |
| chriadam | unless you manually stop it via systemctl --user stop msyncd | 07:53 |
| chriadam | (and in that case, it will be reloaded on next reboot, and then automatically restarted as per normal after reboot) | 07:53 |
| Nicd- | it says ".../privileged/Calendar/mkcal/db opened", then twice "SailfishKeyProvider_ini_read: reached end of file" and then segfault | 07:53 |
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| Nicd- | now I got it to work again with manual sync | 07:54 |
| Nicd- | and the second sync segfaults | 07:54 |
| Nicd- | *** glibc detected *** msyncd: double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x4460a900 *** | 07:54 |
| chriadam | ah... | 07:55 |
| chriadam | mkcal has some non-thread-safe code in it... we have seen this happen occasionally in test devices, but never in the field before now :-/ | 07:55 |
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| chriadam | if two calendar synchronisation processes are triggered at the same time (eg, two google accounts, or a google account + fb account, or caldav account + google account, etc), in some cases the critical section can be entered by two different sync plugins at the same time, and kaboom | 07:56 |
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| chriadam | but I thought we had protected against this case by checking the sync state and aborting if the status wasn't Inactive | 07:57 |
| Nicd- | well, my wife's google calendar disappeared | 07:57 |
| chriadam | ouch. | 07:57 |
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| pp | hmn, my calendar seems to have all events | 07:58 |
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| pp | good sign, that used to be problemful :P | 07:59 |
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| faenil | morning o/ | 08:00 |
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| Nicd- | thanks for your help chriadam|away! | 08:03 |
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| * gexc got a notification for map update | 08:32 | |
| chem|st | qseecom (msm) went nuts all night and drained the battery from 80% to 4% in 6hours... | 08:33 |
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| ggabriel | i had nothing but joy | 08:33 |
| ggabriel | 4g network seems to be less congested so i could actually check things online on the train this morning | 08:33 |
| sharpneli | Wait. Jolla has 4g now? | 08:33 |
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| chem|st | sharpneli: yes | 08:34 |
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| chem|st | or is qseecom going nuts the low battery itself, I have no persistent logs... gps was set active and it seemed to give sat stats without an app running | 08:35 |
| gexc | has anyone seen a blue led notification (while not receiving messages) ? | 08:35 |
| pp | I don't think I charged during the night and am at 86% now | 08:36 |
| chem|st | gexc: yes, some notifications on event screen | 08:36 |
| chem|st | pp: 4g? | 08:36 |
| pp | yes | 08:36 |
| chem|st | ok, yeah I guess the gps module was taking part | 08:37 |
| ggabriel | pp: i'm on 81% | 08:37 |
| gexc | but no notifications found :-/ | 08:37 |
| chem|st | did anyone get eduroam working yet? | 08:38 |
| gexc | does new app update generate a LED notification now? | 08:38 |
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| chem|st | might be yes | 08:38 |
| chem|st | it was yesterday right after the upgrade | 08:38 |
| gexc | hmm... | 08:38 |
| chem|st | there was maps to upgrade I think | 08:38 |
| ggabriel | yeah, i got a maps upgrade too | 08:39 |
| gexc | LOL | 08:39 |
| ggabriel | not sure what's changed | 08:39 |
| ggabriel | hopefully a bit more stable than before | 08:39 |
| chem|st | settings | 08:39 |
| gexc | upgrade failed LOL | 08:39 |
| pp | I have eduroam here, ui doesn't like to connect (but it was a "add config file" thing to connect, anyway?) | 08:39 |
| chem|st | and a newb hint | 08:39 |
| ggabriel | chem|st: thanks :P | 08:40 |
| ggabriel | oh, yeah, it measures in miles now | 08:40 |
| gexc | shouldn't the new app notification use another color? | 08:40 |
| chem|st | pp: I had eduroam working fine, with down patched wpa_sup and everything | 08:40 |
| chem|st | gexc: no idea look it up in mce | 08:41 |
| pp | probably not worth poking around until the connman update arrives, can then easily test things :) | 08:43 |
| gexc | chem|st: the color for common notification is cyan, maybe I just mistook to be blue :-/ | 08:45 |
| ggabriel | the colour of the led wasn't meant to change, was it? | 08:47 |
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| chem|st | eduroam working again.... Aard you overwrote the wpa_supplicant again, without fixing the certificates bug | 08:49 |
| chem|st | Aard: "you" as in someone at jolla, nothing personal ;) | 08:50 |
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| lpotter | certificates bug? | 08:51 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I've subscribed for connman | 08:52 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but no updates | 08:52 |
| Yaniel | anyone else noticed a massive increase in power consumption since the update? | 08:52 |
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| chem|st | lpotter: the jolla version of wpa_sup does halt if a server_cert is also a client_cert | 08:52 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | Yaniel, massive no ... but slightly more yes | 08:52 |
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| chem|st | it ignores that it is a server_cert as an abort is legit if a cert is a client_cert | 08:53 |
| Yaniel | well I lost about 10% during the last two hours | 08:53 |
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| chem|st | Yaniel: yes | 08:53 |
| Yaniel | with the phone just being in my pocket | 08:53 |
| Yaniel | wlan and cell data and everything off | 08:53 |
| chem|st | did you have any programs running? | 08:53 |
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| Yaniel | settings and media (stopped) | 08:54 |
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| chem|st | one report is contactsd going mad with 5-35%cpu | 08:54 |
| Yaniel | hm possible | 08:54 |
| simbrown | narchie: Did you get access to your owncloud calendar? Which settings did you use? | 08:54 |
| Yaniel | that was in known issues too | 08:54 |
| chem|st | I had wlan on and gps and it took 80% to 4% in 6hours | 08:54 |
| Yaniel | was that a temporary thing or do I have to wait for the next update/hotfix | 08:55 |
| chem|st | simbrown: use as serveraddress the full path, that works even with other services (communigate pro) | 08:55 |
| chem|st | Yaniel: no idea I am new to the powerdrain, but as maps and other stuff got upgraded I guessed it is 4G or GPS | 08:56 |
| chem|st | but the first hit on tjc was contactsd | 08:56 |
| gexc | maybe that map update will hang there for a while LOL | 08:56 |
| simbrown | narchie: Thanks! | 08:57 |
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| gexc | packagekitd is eating about 25% of cpu while trying to update maps | 09:01 |
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| gexc | failed again LOL | 09:03 |
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| Sailor169 | can't remove lipstick-qt5 | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | it'd be mighty silly to try to | 09:12 |
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| SK_work | Stskeeps: eh | 09:13 |
| SK_work | Sailor169: eh, no need to do this :) | 09:13 |
| SK_work | even for patchmanager | 09:13 |
| Sailor169 | need to do system update and it should remove | 09:13 |
| Sailor169 | don't want my phone jammed | 09:14 |
| dr_gogeta86 | SK_work, Sailor169 ... just disable patchmanager before upgrade | 09:15 |
| dr_gogeta86 | did it | 09:15 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and works like sharm | 09:15 |
| Sailor169 | i disabled it | 09:15 |
| narchie | man saapunki is beautiful | 09:15 |
| narchie | didn't think they could still improve the desktop | 09:15 |
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| Wnt | during the update I had a "journalctl -f -a" open in a ssh session. I noticed some failed SQL scripts in the output. like: "Failed to prepare table OnlineAccounts:" ... "no such column: Details.nonexportable Unable to execute statement". Should I be worried? | 09:17 |
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| Wnt | I think I also saw similar contact id update failures that chriadam and Nicd- were talking about earlier | 09:20 |
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| TMavica | is the jolla store down? | 09:37 |
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| Stskeeps | define 'down' | 09:38 |
| * gexc just installed an app | 09:38 | |
| TMavica | cant install apps and update the maps | 09:38 |
| * gexc cannot update maps | 09:38 | |
| Nicd- | I updated maps successfully to 1.0.12 | 09:39 |
| faenil | I updated maps last night | 09:39 |
| TMavica | 1.03 not most latest? | 09:39 |
| faenil | "Facebook notifications sub-page in events view, where you can like and comment" | 09:40 |
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| faenil | does anyone see that? | 09:40 |
| faenil | I can neither comment nor like | 09:40 |
| Acce | faenil: yeah | 09:41 |
| Acce | but not for every notification type | 09:41 |
| SK_work | faenil: I can like / comment some | 09:41 |
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| faenil | :S | 09:42 |
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| Acce | I can also attend / maybe / decline on an event invite, which is useful | 09:42 |
| faenil | where do you comment? | 09:42 |
| faenil | I tried tapping on all my notifications | 09:42 |
| faenil | I just get "Open in Facebook" | 09:42 |
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| Acce | then that type of notification is not supported I guess? | 09:43 |
| Acce | did you resign-in after the update | 09:43 |
| faenil | yes | 09:43 |
| gexc | TMavica: removing and reinstalling maps works | 09:43 |
| faenil | I have many "X also commented on Y" | 09:43 |
| faenil | and I can't comment on those.. | 09:43 |
| reviewjolla | faenil: Is your FB account sync settings ok? | 09:43 |
| Acce | yeah | 09:43 |
| Acce | me neither | 09:43 |
| TMavica | ok | 09:43 |
| faenil | reviewjolla, it is supposed to be, yes | 09:44 |
| Acce | I can comment on "added photo of you" | 09:44 |
| Acce | or "invited you to" | 09:44 |
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| faenil | I see..so basically they added support for 5% of the notifications and marketing decided to turn it into "Commenting support for facebook" | 09:44 |
| Acce | I guess they didn't manage to make support for all the stuff right away | 09:44 |
| faenil | yeah it's not a problem, it becomes one if you tell me it works while you know it doesn't :P | 09:45 |
| * gexc finds the maps is still hundreds of meters off in mainland China | 09:45 | |
| faenil | I'll wait for some facebook/social guy to come online before asking bijjal to rectify :) | 09:46 |
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| TMavica | gexc, u can install apps from store? | 09:48 |
| AL13N_work | what is changed in map app? | 09:49 |
| gexc | TMavica: yes | 09:49 |
| TMavica | shit | 09:49 |
| gexc | TMavica: kill packagekitd if it gets stuck | 09:49 |
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| Sail0r | How is the first caldav sync done? A merging or what is done? | 09:53 |
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| TMavica_ | still cant | 09:56 |
| metallisto | Hey, I have a problem with contacts and synchronisation. I deleted all my accounts and used the function delete all contacts. The contacts from facebook are still left and I'm not able to delete them. | 09:56 |
| gexc | or use zypper? | 09:56 |
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| TMavica_ | pkcon install jolla-maps, wrong name? | 09:57 |
| gexc | sailfish-maps maybe | 09:58 |
| gexc | if 'pkcon refresh' fails there is some possibility that the phone is run out of storage space :-/ | 09:59 |
| TMavica_ | i dont think it out of space.. | 10:00 |
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| gexc | I didn't either | 10:01 |
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| gabriel9|work | i noticed some yellow color on my jolla display when background is white | 10:01 |
| gabriel9|work | :( | 10:01 |
| gabriel9|work | like i stain | 10:01 |
| gabriel9|work | also when i watch display under angle i notice that display is different on that spot | 10:02 |
| gexc | Mavica_: if refresh fails, maybe read https://together.jolla.com/question/30822/root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems/ | 10:03 |
| Sail0r | [W] Buteo::ProfileManagerPrivate::parseFile:1105 - Profile file not found: "/home/nemo/.cache/msyncd/storage/hsms.xml" | 10:05 |
| ggabriel | Sail0r: that's a good old error/warning | 10:05 |
| TMavica_ | no any fail in refresh | 10:05 |
| ggabriel | it does nothing apparently | 10:05 |
| Sail0r | k so nothing to worry about | 10:06 |
| Sail0r | I wonder why some events are not synced | 10:06 |
| gexc | hmm... | 10:06 |
| Sail0r | most of my calender gets synced | 10:06 |
| Sail0r | but some not | 10:06 |
| gabriel9|work | this is interesting: http://www.redmondpie.com/fix-solution-for-iphone-4-yellow-spot-display-problem/ | 10:06 |
| ggabriel | mine didn't sync at all | 10:06 |
| gabriel9|work | same as on my jolla | 10:06 |
| gexc | TMavica_: does zypper work? | 10:07 |
| TMavica_ | jolla-maps is wrong name | 10:09 |
| gexc | it's sailfish-maps | 10:09 |
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| gexc | but I could not install it in CLI before removing the previous version | 10:10 |
| Sail0r | some allday events are not synced and some longer lasting events | 10:10 |
| Sail0r | and events which are on the same day are also not synced | 10:11 |
| TMavica_ | not sailfish-maps | 10:11 |
| gexc | :-O | 10:13 |
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| gexc | pkcon search details sailfish-maps | 10:14 |
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| gexc | there is a 1.0.12 one | 10:14 |
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| Sail0r | interesting | 10:16 |
| Sail0r | the events are their | 10:16 |
| Sail0r | but not visible | 10:16 |
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| TMavica | strange. after remove maps, tweetian cant enter in new tweet page, and mitakuluu cant enter in conversation.. | 10:17 |
| gexc | :-/ | 10:18 |
| gexc | what does 'btrfs fi show' say | 10:19 |
| TMavica | haha.. | 10:19 |
| TMavica | whixh information u need | 10:21 |
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| TMavica | total device 1, used 3.87 | 10:22 |
| gexc | the devid line? | 10:22 |
| TMavica | devid 1 size 13.75 gb, used 13.75... | 10:22 |
| gexc | yeah... | 10:23 |
| gexc | check the link above then | 10:23 |
| gexc | I encountered this problem before :-/ | 10:23 |
| TMavica | it seem full..how come | 10:23 |
| gexc | do a rebalance | 10:23 |
| TMavica | ...i go reset it .. | 10:24 |
| gexc | :O | 10:24 |
| TMavica | but why it goes full.. | 10:24 |
| Nicd- | don't reset until you have read that link | 10:24 |
| TMavica | ok | 10:24 |
| TMavica | any link? | 10:24 |
| gexc | https://together.jolla.com/question/30822/root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems/ | 10:24 |
| Sail0r | https://together.jolla.com/question/45424/caldav-synced-elements/ | 10:25 |
| Sail0r | anyone seeing the difference? | 10:25 |
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| TMavica | balancing | 10:28 |
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| AL13N_work | anyone know what has been changed in the map app? | 10:33 |
| AL13N_work | there is no changelog filled in, in the store? | 10:33 |
| ggabriel | AL13N_work: there's a setting now | 10:33 |
| ggabriel | probably more stable :P | 10:33 |
| ggabriel | but time will tell | 10:33 |
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| chem|st | who is in charge of the call-history? Can we have a setting what to disply please, instead you adding one thing by every upgrade which brings us not closer to the solution but adds another feature noone really needs?! why only Personal/Work? | 10:36 |
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| SK_work | chem|st: patchmanager as a rescue (maybe) ? | 10:38 |
| goroboro | chem|st: and SK_work: I have just updated better-calllog on openrepos | 10:40 |
| goroboro | its much nicer than it was before | 10:40 |
| goroboro | I like just being able to see the number that was called.. I don't care about how I categorized it when I put it into my phone... so it just shows the number neatly under the name of the caller | 10:41 |
| netzvieh | yay, my "My apps" page in store stays empty | 10:43 |
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| chem|st | AL13N_work: settings | 10:46 |
| chem|st | AL13N_work: not much more | 10:47 |
| chem|st | AL13N_work: I am wondering if gps drained my battery last night but thats about it | 10:47 |
| chem|st | SK_work: if they implement "something" they could just add everything instead of tearing it apart and adding a for most people useless entry | 10:48 |
| AL13N_work | myeah | 10:48 |
| AL13N_work | btw: did anyone else see weird display on the accounts page? | 10:48 |
| AL13N_work | especially the jolla account looks odd | 10:49 |
| chem|st | netzvieh: welcome aboard^^ | 10:49 |
| Tegu | I have one app \o/ | 10:50 |
| SK_work | goroboro: send a PR to sailfishos-patches-base | 10:50 |
| SK_work | add you as the maintainer | 10:50 |
| Azog | how can one delete all entries in the calendar? | 10:52 |
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| TMavica | still cant install apps..keep waiting | 10:54 |
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| chem|st | anyone familiar with proper systemd stuff? I'd like to mount a btrfs subvolume before aliendalvik gets started | 10:56 |
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| Sail0r | Azog: I moved the database away | 11:00 |
| Sail0r | and restarted the phone ^^ | 11:00 |
| Sail0r | afterwards owncloud synced worked | 11:01 |
| Sail0r | but allday events are partly missing | 11:01 |
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| Sail0r | but they are in the database but not displaye | 11:01 |
| Sail0r | d | 11:01 |
| goroboro | SK_work: how do I get my git account to have permission to add my package to sailfishos-patches-base/maintained? | 11:05 |
| goroboro | my git username is the same as my current irc nick | 11:05 |
| SK_work | goroboro: no, send a pull request | 11:05 |
| SK_work | fork sailfishos-patches-base | 11:05 |
| SK_work | add your patch, and hit the PR button :) | 11:05 |
| goroboro | ah | 11:06 |
| goroboro | okay | 11:06 |
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| chem|st | Aard: sys-brtfs-setup.service <-- is this meant to be or is this a typo? | 11:09 |
| Aard | this might be a type | 11:09 |
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| Teme | ohhh... when the lock screen top pulley became customizable i was hoping it would be possible to do the most important thing - remove "Silence sounds" :( | 11:13 |
| Teme | i have done that many times by accident and missed calls for it | 11:13 |
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| Sail0r | is there a description available what the fields in the calendar db are for? | 11:19 |
| kimmoli | Teme +1 | 11:19 |
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| Wnt | how does one customise the lockscreen pulley menu items? | 11:22 |
| flux | settings/system/shortcuts | 11:22 |
| flux | though apparently it only allows only up to three presets? | 11:22 |
| Wnt | cool, now I can start the flashlight straight from the pulley | 11:24 |
| Nicd- | Wnt: thanks for the idea! | 11:24 |
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| SK_work | goroboro: you are now an official "patcher" | 11:31 |
| SK_work | you can contribute patches now :) | 11:31 |
| goroboro | heh... awesome | 11:32 |
| goroboro | SK_work: do I continue to use the fork? or do I just clone the main repo and contribute directly in there? | 11:32 |
| SK_work | goroboro: you can, but you can use the main repo to contribute directly | 11:33 |
| SK_work | don't break everything, that's what I ask | 11:33 |
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| goroboro | SK_work: I doubt I will break anything... I don't have as much time on my hands as I wished... so I'm not gonna muck with anyone else's patches... and I doubt I will be adding that many more | 11:34 |
| goroboro | but I will keep my patch up to date for as long as its still useful | 11:34 |
| SK_work | goroboro: thanks for this | 11:34 |
| goroboro | if I think up a few new things... I will add them | 11:34 |
| SK_work | nodevel: you are a patcher too :) | 11:34 |
| goroboro | btw... when do you do another build of the base patches for openrepos? | 11:35 |
| goroboro | when that goes up, I will remove my current package there | 11:35 |
| SK_work | goroboro: ah, you still have a package ? | 11:35 |
| SK_work | the best is to add an obsoletes | 11:35 |
| SK_work | (see the other pullr equest) | 11:35 |
| nodevel | SK_work: Thank you :) | 11:35 |
| SK_work | nodevel: btw, please run specify to patch the spec file | 11:36 |
| SK_work | thanks | 11:36 |
| nodevel | ok | 11:36 |
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| SK_work | nodevel: same warning as goroboro, don't break everything :P | 11:36 |
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| nodevel | SK_work: ok :) I'll see if I can do that easily, as I'm not on an rpm-based system (pacman ftw :) ) | 11:37 |
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| SK_work | nodevel: do you have sdk ? | 11:38 |
| SK_work | if yes, ssh into sdk and specify from there | 11:38 |
| SK_work | if you cannot I will fix tonight | 11:39 |
| SK_work | same for goroboro | 11:39 |
| nodevel | SK_work: yep, thought of this. or on the device | 11:39 |
| SK_work | nodevel: ah, true, on device | 11:39 |
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| Tofe | Hello | 11:49 |
| Tofe | It looks like I messed up my contacts two-way sync because I skipped the first sync step... is there any simple way to relaunch that step ? | 11:50 |
| Tofe | otherwise I end up with having the contacts twice | 11:50 |
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| nodevel | SK_work: I generated the spec file in the sdk (specify sailfishos-patches-base.yaml), but (looking at a diff) the 'macros' portion is lost and major part of 'install' portion as well. shall I edit manually? :) | 11:54 |
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| SK_work | nodevel: I will do this tonight | 11:55 |
| SK_work | will merge :) | 11:55 |
| dr_gogeta86 | SK_work, webview works on phone | 11:56 |
| dr_gogeta86 | is possible to parse html from qml ? | 11:56 |
| dr_gogeta86 | The need is | 11:56 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Login to google | 11:56 |
| SK_work | dr_gogeta86: don't work easily :( | 11:56 |
| metallisto | I google contact synchronisation working good for anyone? | 11:56 |
| dr_gogeta86 | go to the page with the important data | 11:56 |
| metallisto | Is | 11:56 |
| dr_gogeta86 | parse the page | 11:57 |
| dr_gogeta86 | get the var | 11:57 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I need to get api key from a page | 11:57 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | SK_work, http://rschroll.github.io/beru/2013/08/21/qtwebview.experimental.html | 12:01 |
| Sail0r | hmm | 12:04 |
| Sail0r | ok got one event visible in my calendar by setting the DateEndDue field manually in the database | 12:04 |
| Sail0r | sqlite> update components set DateEndDue=1403211703 where Summary="Fronleichnam"; | 12:04 |
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| Sail0r | but other events don't have this field set too | 12:04 |
| Wnt | TMavica, gexc, Nicd-: about the brtfs balancing: https://together.jolla.com/question/30822/root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems/?comment=45482#comment-45482 | 12:04 |
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| Nicd- | Wnt: I did my rebalance at jolla's office :P | 12:05 |
| Scelt | 4G wastes awfully more battery than 3G | 12:06 |
| Wnt | when the phone rebooted and seemed to be stuck on the jolla logo screen I was sure I need learn how to use the recovery menu | 12:06 |
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| Wnt | but luckily didn't have to that | 12:07 |
| Sail0r | for everyone who has problems with allday events: https://together.jolla.com/question/45424/caldav-synced-all-day-events-not-visible/ | 12:07 |
| Wnt | is there some command that shows the last (re)boot reason? | 12:07 |
| Scelt | if using wifi, use 2G. Otherwise prefer 4G. that'd be a lovely feature | 12:07 |
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| Wnt | Scelt: it might be pretty easy to hack some script to do that | 12:08 |
| Wnt | but that would be ofcourse a nice feature integrated in the OS | 12:09 |
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| Scelt | yeah | 12:09 |
| Scelt | no idea to drain battery with 4G when using wifi anyway | 12:10 |
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| Wnt | even better solution would be to optimize the 4G stack to use less power, but not sure if that's possible | 12:11 |
| Wnt | I guess that kind of "wlan -> 2G only" feature is at a lower priority at Jolla compared to optimizing 4G power usage | 12:13 |
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| nodevel | SK_work: ok, thanks | 12:25 |
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| simbrown | sharpneli: The update does have 4G support, but the same Adreno driver as before. I wonder if there'll be an update ever. | 12:33 |
| goroboro | SK_work: I tried cloning the master so that I could update the yaml file directly... but when I attempt to do a push... I get a permission denied for it... I can obviously update in my fork, but then I have to send another pull request | 12:33 |
| SK_work | strange | 12:33 |
| SK_work | my fault | 12:35 |
| phdeswer | Wnt: actually 2G power usage is higher than 3G (don't know for 4G) so a 2G only feature would be counterproductive | 12:35 |
| SK_work | goroboro: try again :) | 12:35 |
| ggabriel | fwiw, i'm getting similar battery drain with 4g than with 3g (my provider doesn't do 2g because it's too mainstream :P ) | 12:36 |
| goroboro | SK_work: that looked like it worked | 12:36 |
| ggabriel | so, when is the next update then? :D | 12:38 |
| Quu | somewhere before next summer | 12:39 |
| ggabriel | no, it was early july | 12:40 |
| ggabriel | but more seriously, i think i missed the announcement of what jolla is working on | 12:40 |
| goroboro | SK_work: did I follow you right... you are going to do the specify stuff tonight? right? | 12:40 |
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| CraigA | hrm | 12:43 |
| CraigA | did the update, still no 4g :( | 12:43 |
| SK_work | goroboro: only update yaml | 12:43 |
| SK_work | I will try to build package at some point (maybe tonight) | 12:43 |
| AL13N_work | i got 4G only at work, not at home | 12:43 |
| ggabriel | CraigA: try outdoors | 12:43 |
| ggabriel | (and make sure you have it as preferred in settings) | 12:43 |
| ggabriel | mine didn't pick it up in the ground floor of the house | 12:43 |
| CraigA | gonna go do that now | 12:43 |
| ggabriel | then it did when i went upstairs | 12:43 |
| ggabriel | and it did't let go since then | 12:43 |
| goroboro | SK_work: done | 12:44 |
| AL13N_work | mine connected to 4G, after ik woke it up | 12:44 |
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| slate | CraigA: Got a 4G contract? | 12:45 |
| CraigA | yes, and an LTE enabled SIM | 12:46 |
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| slate | which operator? | 12:46 |
| CraigA | Roger (Canada) | 12:46 |
| CraigA | Rogers | 12:46 |
| CraigA | and my area fully supports the 2600/7 band | 12:46 |
| ggabriel | ah, small detail there | 12:46 |
| ggabriel | jolla isn't meant to be supported in canada officially | 12:46 |
| CraigA | Doesn't meant it shouldn't | 12:47 |
| CraigA | work | 12:47 |
| ggabriel | couldn't | 12:47 |
| AL13N_work | but, supposedly rogers would support it | 12:47 |
| AL13N_work | i read about this | 12:47 |
| ggabriel | rather, wouldn't | 12:47 |
| ggabriel | but yeah, not sure about the details then | 12:47 |
| AL13N_work | pfff, couldn't wouldn't shouldn't... | 12:47 |
| ggabriel | there are differences | 12:47 |
| AL13N_work | ggabriel: there was a wiki someplace | 12:47 |
| AL13N_work | with 4G support details | 12:47 |
| slate | I guess your base is band 4 or so. | 12:47 |
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| ggabriel | i've got uk's 3 fwiw, check the band there, that one works | 12:48 |
| ggabriel | if it's the same as canda then (y) | 12:48 |
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| AL13N_work | http://reviewjolla.blogspot.be/2014/01/lte-4g-supported-countries-and.html | 12:49 |
| slate | Rogers supporting band 7 does not mean it supports it all over the coverage-area | 12:49 |
| AL13N_work | good point | 12:49 |
| slate | its basicly band 4 which is not supported by jolla.. | 12:49 |
| AL13N_work | CraigA: you could ask your ISP for where the band7 support is located | 12:50 |
| CraigA | band7 support is throughout the entire Greater Toronto Area | 12:50 |
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| CraigA | I confirmed this back in December when I got my first Jolla | 12:51 |
| slate | try to change node | 12:51 |
| AL13N_work | CraigA: perhaps call them and ask them to fix it, maybe since almost noone uses band7, they disabled it accidentally or something, or one of their masts has it off or whatnot | 12:51 |
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| CraigA | i'm just gonna pop this sim in an S3 quickly to make sure it connects to LTE on that device | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | at least crevetor got 4g going on fidomobile supposedly | 12:52 |
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| CraigA | yeah, same backbone (rogers) | 12:52 |
| CraigA | so it should work | 12:52 |
| faenil | yo | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | moo faeni | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | l | 12:52 |
| CraigA | I have a feeling its just Rogers being techtarded | 12:52 |
| Wnt | Should I be able to edit a phone number of a contact synced to the phone via google after the latest update and setting the google account contacts to be 2-way synced? | 13:03 |
| Wnt | I still have the phone number fields in read only mode in the contacts app | 13:04 |
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| Wnt | So it's not possible to e.g. copy a phone number or an email from a contact that comes from google sync | 13:05 |
| Quu | noticed that too | 13:06 |
| Wnt | but I did have some SQL error messages in journalctl while doing the update, I suspect that they might be related | 13:06 |
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| Wnt | during the update I had a "journalctl -f -a" open in a ssh session. I noticed some failed SQL scripts in the output. like: "Failed to prepare table OnlineAccounts:" ... "no such column: Details.nonexportable Unable to execute statement". | 13:07 |
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| faenil | heheh this guy is quite right | 13:11 |
| faenil | this is a design compromise | 13:11 |
| faenil | https://twitter.com/WanEcc/status/476350062373920768 | 13:11 |
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| Teme | how do i even folder | 13:13 |
| VDVsx | the idea is that top apps are most used ones, something that you can easily identify, if you put there folders, well... :) | 13:13 |
| VDVsx | Teme, drag a icon on top of another | 13:13 |
| gexc | is there a limit for the number of items in a folder? | 13:14 |
| Teme | oh, cool :) | 13:14 |
| chem|st | faenil: also foldernames while in editor could come handy.... I have to guess the right ones or open them and look inside | 13:14 |
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| * gexc thinking about putting 2048 apps in a folder and call it '2048' | 13:14 | |
| chem|st | Teme: when in a folder the name and the icon are editable | 13:15 |
| Wnt | chem|st: wow, didn't eralize the icon is also editable | 13:15 |
| faenil | VDVsx, makes sense, though it still requires some "getting used to" | 13:16 |
| VDVsx | yup | 13:16 |
| chem|st | Wnt: a colour slider would be nice but well, good for a starting point! | 13:16 |
| faenil | as it's not like you designed the folder icon yourself, you only had a few choices :) so your mind cannot immediately link one icon to one folder | 13:16 |
| VDVsx | people also ask for app icons, but I fail to see that as useful if you have more than 3 apps there, is just decoration since at least I can't see what's inside :P | 13:17 |
| * SK_work want icons inside folder | 13:17 | |
| Teme | yeah, loving the folders and now i get where this tweet is coming from, that's kinda sucky :( | 13:17 |
| Teme | but other than that very nice implementation! | 13:17 |
| faenil | VDVsx, not on a 854*540...yeah... :D | 13:17 |
| VDVsx | SK_work, icons ? is that useful for more than 3 apps ? | 13:17 |
| faenil | (still, you get some hints) | 13:17 |
| faenil | you see that there's a red icon inside, not a white one, for instance | 13:18 |
| chem|st | Teme: when you put everything in 4 folders you are mentally ill! | 13:18 |
| VDVsx | ehhe | 13:18 |
| faenil | VDVsx, btw, July's update will be published right? | 13:18 |
| * VDVsx is amused to see peoples folder's, some have folder browser with 6-8 apps inside | 13:18 | |
| Sail0r | hm sync of caldav does not seem happen every 15mins as selected | 13:18 |
| faenil | the skipped one is August, right? | 13:19 |
| VDVsx | faenil, yes | 13:19 |
| VDVsx | 8 is coming | 13:19 |
| faenil | great thanks | 13:19 |
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| faenil | I have Android folder with 28 icons :D | 13:19 |
| Teme | chem|st: not everything of course, but it could be nice to have _some_ folders on the "first four apps"-bar with a custom name (as the icon doesn't really say what's there) | 13:19 |
| Teme | but i guess that's sorta okay for now if you put only one folder :) | 13:19 |
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| Wnt | do the PatchManager's Pandora patches work with the latest update? | 13:21 |
| SK_work | Wnt: you don't need pandora anymore | 13:22 |
| SK_work | reinstall from openrepos (be sure to have patchmanager 0.4.4, base patch 0.4.3, advanced patche 0.3.1 | 13:22 |
| SK_work | ) | 13:22 |
| Wnt | SK_work: oh, ok | 13:22 |
| SK_work | at each release it's the same mess with PM :D | 13:23 |
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| SK_work | and Jolla people release one update per month, hard to keep it up | 13:23 |
| Wnt | SK_work: sure, I can imagine that | 13:23 |
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| Quu | the new PM is verry nice | 13:24 |
| Quu | no need for installing shitton of random stuff | 13:24 |
| SK_work | Quu: thanks Jolla for this | 13:25 |
| SK_work | they made the homescreen QML files available | 13:25 |
| Quu | neat neat | 13:25 |
| SK_work | of course, as a safety measure, patchmanager directly do a backup of these files | 13:25 |
| Wnt | I get patchmanager-ui-0.4.4-... requires patchmanager-0.4.4-... but this requirement cannot be provided. Do I need to add some additional repos? | 13:26 |
| SK_work | Wnt: you need to refresh your repos | 13:27 |
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| Wnt | ok, I guess it's doing that now | 13:27 |
| faenil | SK_work, homescreen qml files? are they available outside the qrc now? | 13:27 |
| SK_work | faenil: yep | 13:27 |
| faenil | I see, cool :) | 13:27 |
| SK_work | ls /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 | 13:27 |
| SK_work | now, one last fight: email and media player | 13:27 |
| CoderCandy | hmm, I can't seem to enable mobile data while in 4g... | 13:28 |
| Sail0r | maybe your provider does not allow it` | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | APN config? | 13:28 |
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| CoderCandy | Sail0r: well, I pay for 4g speeds | 13:29 |
| CoderCandy | So I'm gonna be pissed if it's the carrier limiting me. | 13:29 |
| chem|st | SK_work: where is a PM how-to (link?) | 13:30 |
| Wnt | chem|st: there is the thread on talk maemo org: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92935 | 13:31 |
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| SK_work | chem|st: first post should be enough | 13:31 |
| crazy_imp | mhm, how can i set the themes text color? i switched the background and it automagically adjusted the colors for me... | 13:31 |
| coderus | SK_work: sweet :) | 13:31 |
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| SK_work | but I know by experience that it's not | 13:31 |
| SK_work | crazy_imp: why would you do that ? | 13:32 |
| SK_work | if you want, you need to fiddle with dconf | 13:32 |
| SK_work | since gconf is dead | 13:32 |
| crazy_imp | SK_work: because i want green and not red? | 13:32 |
| crazy_imp | and i was able to choose the colors initially once | 13:32 |
| coderus | crazy_imp: edit theme ambience config | 13:32 |
| crazy_imp | so why should i not be able to pick the color later again? | 13:33 |
| coderus | just pack your ambience as required with own ambience config and it will use colors you want | 13:34 |
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| crazy_imp | that's not very inituitive :P | 13:36 |
| chem|st | wtf, it does not vibrate anymore on pulley entries... | 13:36 |
| chem|st | is there a new setting introduced? | 13:36 |
| Wnt | chem|st: it still wibrates on my device | 13:37 |
| Teme | mine does still | 13:37 |
| AL13N_work | this reminds me, the colors of the red ambience seems to have changed in update... it's more readible now with pink instead of some kind of brows | 13:37 |
| AL13N_work | afaik, there has always been a setting about vibrating pulley entries | 13:38 |
| CraigA | ahhh i got it | 13:39 |
| coderus | crazy_imp: sure. for lazy peeps | 13:39 |
| AL13N_work | CraigA: how did you get it? | 13:39 |
| Wnt | I cannot seem to get the "Control center in ambiance switcher" patch to work. If I apply it and use the "Restart preloaded services" the edge swipe in locksreen or applications view does not have any effect | 13:39 |
| CraigA | I had to change the APN settings | 13:39 |
| AL13N_work | oh | 13:40 |
| Teme | chem|st: do you have them enabled under Settings -> System -> Sounds and Feedback -> touch screen vibration? | 13:40 |
| Teme | had it on and update didn't set a new default or anything on my device | 13:40 |
| chem|st | Teme: I am testing with csd now | 13:40 |
| CraigA | will probably make a suggestion for an APN switcher/ change APN's based on which technology the phone is currently using | 13:40 |
| Wnt | and if I un-apply it there is the ambiance switcher | 13:40 |
| chem|st | feels like a topic for care | 13:40 |
| CraigA | so I don't have to edit the APN every time I have to fail over to 2G | 13:40 |
| CraigA | uugggghhh... this is SOOOOO much faster :D | 13:42 |
| Wnt | SK_work: ah that "Control center in ambience switcher don't work" is a known problem | 13:43 |
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| Stskeeps | CraigA: got 4G going? | 13:43 |
| CraigA | Yes sir :D | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | good | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | how? | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:44 |
| CraigA | the default APN for 2G is different than the APN for 4G | 13:44 |
| CraigA | and then figuring out how to edit the APN was a little task in itself | 13:44 |
| CraigA | but after swapping it over and rebooting the phone has worked flawlessly on 4G since | 13:45 |
| Wnt | Stskeeps: could you help me with the google synced contact's problem I asked about 40 minutes ago? | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | Wnt: no, sorry - it's a bit out of my league | 13:45 |
| Wnt | Stskeeps: ok, no problem | 13:45 |
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| Wnt | I think at some point I'll try to delete the contacts and accounts settings and data from the device and reboot. | 13:47 |
| Teme | kimmoli: i left a comment about the removal of the "silence sounds"-option on this https://together.jolla.com/question/45446/enable-settings-actions-in-lock-screen-personalized-pulley-menu/ | 13:50 |
| Teme | didn't feel like it's deserving of its own topic | 13:50 |
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| chem|st | grml, that will be a care@ topic.... | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | what broke? | 13:58 |
| chem|st | vibrator | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 13:59 |
| chem|st | it works when I firmly slap the device | 13:59 |
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| faenil | mmm I heard this already, there's another guy who had issues with the vibrator | 13:59 |
| faenil | let's see if I remember his name | 13:59 |
| faenil | nope, don't remember :D | 14:00 |
| * goroboro thinks there are some comments here that taken out of context would look great on bash.org | 14:01 | |
| stephg | heh | 14:01 |
| Wnt | :D | 14:01 |
| Wnt | I had to replace the speaker of my device, the one that you put against your ear | 14:02 |
| chem|st | goroboro: I filled the fortunesDB quiet a bit already^^ | 14:02 |
| faenil | goroboro, hehe | 14:02 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: just send a mail to care@ or some website to go to? | 14:02 |
| Quu | chem|st: mail care and wait 2-6 weeks for answer | 14:03 |
| goroboro | :) | 14:03 |
| chem|st | Quu: my sister had like 7 days from contacting care to having the device back... | 14:03 |
| Wnt | chem|st: if you live near a DNA shop and got your device from them / from the frist one's party you can get it replaced really fast | 14:03 |
| Quu | chem|st: last time i bothered mailing them, it took ~5 weeks for them to answe | 14:04 |
| Wnt | my speaker replacement took les than a week | 14:04 |
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| faenil | Quu there were some slowdowns in the past, but they said things should be back on track now | 14:05 |
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| simbrown | With the update is it possible to include your name as well as your email address in the from header? | 14:10 |
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| chem|st | simbrown: one at a time, I am glad to sync emails for once ;) (reads I have no idea!) | 14:11 |
| simbrown | chem|st: :-) It's worked reasonably well for me for a while, but I can't use it because of this | 14:13 |
| KhertanAtwork | Stskeeps, that s happen with 3g too, also, when calling i can hear the tune of 'Unavailable network' ... and 4 second after i got ring tone | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | hmmmm | 14:15 |
| Tofe | Is there a way to "clean up" the contacts, i.e. to remove everything that came from Google and keep only what I added on the device ? | 14:15 |
| KhertanAtwork | Stskeeps, look like operator | 14:15 |
| Wnt | is there a command to show the last (re)boot reason on the device? | 14:15 |
| Tofe | Wnt: maybe journalctl could help ? | 14:16 |
| KhertanAtwork | Wnt, cat /var/log/systemboot.log | 14:16 |
| Wnt | KhertanAtwork: thanks! | 14:17 |
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| SK_work | KhertanAtwork: :/ | 14:18 |
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| Venemo | hey guys | 14:26 |
| Venemo | who here has working LTE on their Jolla with 1.0.7.x? | 14:26 |
| special | I do | 14:26 |
| VDVsx | me too :) | 14:27 |
| VDVsx | capped to 20mb, but still goes to 23mb :) | 14:27 |
| KhertanAtwork | Venemo, look like it s works here | 14:27 |
| KhertanAtwork | no measure | 14:27 |
| TMavica | I have working LTE | 14:27 |
| Venemo | wow | 14:27 |
| Venemo | what's the secret? | 14:27 |
| Venemo | it simply doesn't find any LTE networks for me | 14:27 |
| Plnt | it doesn't work for me but it could be caused by bad coverage in my area | 14:27 |
| VDVsx | Venemo, does same sim works in other devices ? | 14:28 |
| VDVsx | i.e has LTE | 14:28 |
| Plnt | is there someone on vodafone/cz network with working lte on jolla? :) | 14:28 |
| Venemo | VDVsx: I don't have other LTE devices, but I had my operator replace my SIM card to an LTE one | 14:28 |
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| FireFly | Hmm | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | is it a LTE subscription too | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | also note that some operators might ban non-approved devices from networks.. | 14:28 |
| covox | Venemo: here too, vodafone AU | 14:28 |
| special | and of course check area coverage | 14:29 |
| wazd | heya all citizens | 14:29 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps: how can I check that? | 14:30 |
| Venemo | special: coverage should be okay | 14:30 |
| Sail0r | Venemo: do you pay for lte? ^^ | 14:30 |
| TMavica | Hong Kong Smartone LTE working excellent all time | 14:30 |
| Sail0r | Venemo: O2 DE is not allowing to use LTE until you have a LTE simcard | 14:31 |
| Venemo | Sail0r: I had my operator replace my SIM card to an LTE one | 14:31 |
| Plnt | Sail0r: yeah, that's same here in czech republic. all three operators require lte sim card (t-mobile, o2, vodafone) | 14:31 |
| VDVsx | Venemo, you should be able to check your plan in the operator website, should say there | 14:31 |
| Venemo | VDVsx: it should be enabled, but I can ask my operator | 14:32 |
| faenil | Venemo, not sure having an LTE card implies having an LTE plan :/ | 14:32 |
| TMavica | stskeeps, when u come Hong Kong this month? LOL | 14:32 |
| covox | vacuums up the battery though, I think I'll keep it off until special occasions | 14:32 |
| VDVsx | Venemo, I mean, check their website, should be there, if not ask them :) | 14:32 |
| slate | Why to use lte since hspa has enough speed for mobile-data.. :) | 14:33 |
| Plnt | faenil: i think that depends on the operator. for example here in cz you don't need special plan for lte but operators have very strict fair usage policy (few gigs/month) | 14:33 |
| faenil | okay | 14:33 |
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| Venemo | okay | 14:36 |
| Venemo | screw my operator | 14:36 |
| Venemo | they require some additional charge to use LTE | 14:37 |
| Venemo | so... just fuck them | 14:37 |
| Venemo | sorry for wasting your time, guys | 14:37 |
| covox | Venemo: no thanks I just ate | 14:37 |
| faenil | Venemo, same here ;) | 14:37 |
| FireFly | Someone on tjc pointed out that there's still a small visual bug with rounded corners on app covers, with the black gradient at the bottom of the web-browser cover | 14:38 |
| slate | fix it ;) | 14:38 |
| ggabriel | Venemo: most of them do... [charge more] | 14:38 |
| FireFly | slate: where are the qml files? :P | 14:39 |
| slate | he, no clue. :) | 14:39 |
| FireFly | Aww | 14:39 |
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| special | browser is opensource | 14:40 |
| slate | Venemo: lte base stations arent free to build. :) Though they should divert traffic away from crowded 3g stations | 14:40 |
| special | the homescreen QML isn't but it's somewhere on the device | 14:40 |
| FireFly | Some of it is embedded in the lipstick binary, at least | 14:41 |
| ggabriel | my operator (3) doesn't charge extra | 14:41 |
| ggabriel | i pay 6.90 gbp a month | 14:41 |
| ggabriel | and still get lte/4g | 14:41 |
| faenil | FireFly, it seems QML files are now on filesystem | 14:41 |
| FireFly | :o | 14:41 |
| faenil | (don't know if all of them) | 14:41 |
| Sail0r | is this change alread in the actual mkcal version which is in 1.0.7.16 https://github.com/mer-packages/mkcal/commit/40e1d0882d2b89f183d6ff11e9aeff3b81d119e6 | 14:41 |
| ggabriel | they should all follow and stop the nonsense | 14:41 |
| SK_work | FireFly: ls /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5/qml | 14:42 |
| SK_work | :) | 14:42 |
| special | Sail0r: you can check for yourself | 14:42 |
| Sail0r | which one do you use? | 14:42 |
| special | look at the tags including that commit (listed on that page) | 14:42 |
| special | 0.3.18-1 through 0.3.22 | 14:42 |
| Sail0r | and which version do we have? | 14:42 |
| special | that's something to ask your package manager | 14:42 |
| Sail0r | 3.22 | 14:43 |
| Sail0r | mkcal-qt5-0.3.22-1.9.1.armv7hl | 14:43 |
| Sail0r | hm, k hoped that this leads to the inivisible events | 14:43 |
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| faenil | special, Qt5.2 coming in update8? :) | 14:45 |
| gexc | there is still no push mail for imap? | 14:45 |
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| special | faenil: now that would be fun | 14:47 |
| faenil | special, what :/ | 14:48 |
| special | release 5.2, then skip a month before the next update | 14:48 |
| faenil | not yet? :( | 14:48 |
| faenil | aww come on..... :'( | 14:48 |
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| Sail0r | what does the jolla-calendar query to get events it seems so strange why some events are displayed and others not | 14:48 |
| Sail0r | while all of them are in the database | 14:48 |
| special | faenil: I don't know specifics | 14:49 |
| special | other than that Qt 5.2 is sexy on device.. :p | 14:49 |
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| faenil | special, I hoped u8 was doable...it's been in testing forever :( | 14:49 |
| faenil | special, eh...of course you guys don't have to hurry, you have it already on your devices :p | 14:49 |
| special | my daily phone is running update7 | 14:50 |
| faenil | special, I thought you were using an iPhone as daily phone :p | 14:50 |
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| Sail0r | did you ever have the non visible events in calendar in qa special? | 14:50 |
| special | I was, but then I came to europe and didn't want to pay to carrier-unlock the iphone | 14:51 |
| faenil | special, ah, that's why :p | 14:51 |
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| special | Sail0r: I know nothing | 14:52 |
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| Sail0r | hmm but it looks like it affects many people with caldav sync | 14:52 |
| special | is there a together post? | 14:52 |
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| Sail0r | https://together.jolla.com/question/45424/caldav-synced-all-day-events-not-visible/ | 14:53 |
| Sail0r | sure it is | 14:53 |
| Nav | Works for me | 14:53 |
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| Sail0r | it does not have the problem on all all-day events | 14:53 |
| Sail0r | but on some | 14:54 |
| Sail0r | and longer lasting events also have the problem for me | 14:54 |
| special | ooh, it even has details | 14:54 |
| Sail0r | I did my best :x | 14:54 |
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| mornfall | so, how do I enable the connman hotfix? | 14:56 |
| mornfall | I don't think sending emails to connman-hotfix@jolla.com works... | 14:57 |
| SK_work | mornfall: it works, but pudates will be pushed afterwards | 14:57 |
| Morpog_PC__ | mornfall, it does work, you just need to wait | 14:57 |
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| special | Sail0r: filed an internal bug linking to that | 14:58 |
| Sail0r | special: thx | 14:58 |
| mornfall | ok, I didn't expect "a while" to be more than 18 hours I guess :-) | 14:58 |
| ggabriel | lol | 14:58 |
| Sail0r | lol | 14:59 |
| ggabriel | a while can be anything between 10 seconds and an era | 14:59 |
| Sail0r | let them take their time | 14:59 |
| clau3 | hmm, I don't seem to get 4g, altho someone with a lumia has it, on same provider. is there a way to debug this? | 14:59 |
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| mornfall | ok, the opt-in process is kinda wonky :-) | 15:00 |
| mornfall | I guess the hotfix doesn't exist yet? | 15:00 |
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| special | it hasn't been published yet | 15:00 |
| stephg | PSA weekly Sailfish meeting in #mer-meeting starting now | 15:00 |
| faenil | mornfall, I contacted Aard about that, and he had me notice that the post says it will be published "this week" | 15:01 |
| faenil | it doesn't say it's published :) | 15:01 |
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| faenil | mornfall, try reading the post again ;) | 15:01 |
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| SK_work | Sailfish weekly meeting now ! --> #mer-meeting | 15:03 |
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| mornfall | faenil: I know, it also says "send mail and wait a while to get a notification" :-) | 15:04 |
| faenil | mornfall, yes, but that comes after :p | 15:05 |
| mornfall | faenil: which is misleading at best, because you don't even get an auto-reply :) | 15:05 |
| faenil | mornfall, I agree | 15:05 |
| faenil | mornfall, convince Aard :D | 15:05 |
| phaeron | the notification is the update available notification | 15:05 |
| FireFly | Yeah, that's what I figured too | 15:05 |
| FireFly | "a while" could be clarified though, I guess | 15:06 |
| Aard | "this week" :p | 15:06 |
| phaeron | "soon" ? | 15:06 |
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| FireFly | Aard: so, before next update? | 15:06 |
| mornfall | Aard: meh :) | 15:06 |
| * FireFly should be nicer probably :D | 15:06 | |
| faenil | guys, it goes like this: the update is published this week | 15:07 |
| faenil | *once* it's published, you can send the email, and after doing so you'll have to wait *a while* before the system send you the notification | 15:07 |
| faenil | the "a while" is only for email processing | 15:07 |
| mornfall | also, who reads intros? | 15:07 |
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| faenil | but of course you won't get anything if the update is not published :p | 15:07 |
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| mornfall | faenil: so sending mails now is being ignored, you say? | 15:08 |
| mornfall | faenil: or it's registered without confirmation and you get the update when it's around | 15:08 |
| faenil | 2nd | 15:08 |
| mornfall | also, #mer-meeting is the epitome of bureaucracy ... | 15:08 |
| faenil | ( I think ) | 15:08 |
| SK_work | mornfall: why ? | 15:08 |
| FireFly | Btw, would it be a bad idea to `killall lipstick` to have it restart? | 15:08 |
| mornfall | what's even the point :D | 15:08 |
| special | FireFly: we do it fairly often. | 15:09 |
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| SK_work | FireFly: no, or you can systemctl --user restart lipstick.service | 15:09 |
| ggabriel | i read the meeting logs and they don't look so beaureaucratic | 15:09 |
| FireFly | Oh, okay | 15:09 |
| special | FireFly: 'systemctl restart user@100000.service' is another option, which resets the whole user session | 15:09 |
| special | halfway to an actual reboot | 15:09 |
| FireFly | I only need to restart lipstick for this, but that's good to know | 15:10 |
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| FireFly | Hah, rounded corners | 15:12 |
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| faenil | Aard, https://together.jolla.com/question/45026/hotfix-opt-in-hotfix-for-connectivity-in-upcoming-update-7/#comment-45589 | 15:14 |
| faenil | pretty please change the post message :P | 15:14 |
| faenil | put "this week" in bold or something | 15:14 |
| faenil | rephrase, do something :D | 15:14 |
| special | please delay the hotfix by one hour for every time you're asked about it :> | 15:15 |
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| faenil | special, people keep saying "I don't get any notification" | 15:15 |
| faenil | that's a clear signal that 1) people don't read | 15:15 |
| faenil | so it's your job to make it easier to spot the important info :D | 15:16 |
| arnbak | I'm seeing a red blinking led, and a lockedup ui (very sluggish performing ui). For a couple of minutes, and then everything is back to normal. | 15:16 |
| SK_work | arnbak: IMO: OOM* | 15:17 |
| arnbak | anyone else seeing this ? | 15:17 |
| faenil | arnbak, normal, it's your phone going to the toilet | 15:17 |
| arnbak | faenil: battery at full charge. | 15:17 |
| arnbak | and its a new "feature" for me after the update :-) | 15:18 |
| arnbak | SK_work: ? | 15:18 |
| SK_work | arnbak: out of memory | 15:18 |
| SK_work | too many apps opened ? | 15:18 |
| SK_work | too many tabs in the btowser ? | 15:18 |
| arnbak | SK_work: 3 | 15:18 |
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| arnbak | But OOM seems plausable | 15:20 |
| pp | "this week" -> "on or before Sunday"?-) | 15:20 |
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| Quu | valve "this week" -> maybe before 2020 | 15:21 |
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| bennypr0fane | so has anyone figured out yet ho wto create folders in the menu? | 15:28 |
| FireFly | Yes, just drag an app on top of another | 15:28 |
| AJAX555 | sweet, email works again \o/ | 15:28 |
| bennypr0fane | Firefly, now there's just a number. how can we know what's inside | 15:29 |
| FireFly | click on it | 15:29 |
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| bennypr0fane | shouldn't it be possible to name them? | 15:30 |
| FireFly | I thought it was fairly intuitive.. | 15:30 |
| raa70 | click on the folder, click on top left icon to change icon, and top right caption to change caption | 15:30 |
| FireFly | it is | 15:30 |
| FireFly | click the name | 15:30 |
| FireFly | (after opening it) | 15:30 |
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| bennypr0fane | and how about that quick scrolling? haven't figured out how that works yet... | 15:32 |
| FireFly | if you flick in a long list there's popup jump-to-top and jump-to-bottom buttons to the right | 15:33 |
| chem|st | bennypr0fane: flick and you see two buttons | 15:33 |
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| chem|st | not really handy but well at least you get to the end of the list | 15:33 |
| bennypr0fane | seems to work also in the non-Jolla apps, but not buttons | 15:35 |
| bennypr0fane | do you have the quick-scroll buttons in yr 3rd part apps, like e.g. file browser? | 15:36 |
| bennypr0fane | i have a feeling my theme is messing things up | 15:36 |
| raa70 | webcat has them | 15:37 |
| raa70 | and mitä kuuluu | 15:37 |
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| bennypr0fane | has anyone tried the Terminal UI theme from openrepos? | 15:38 |
| bennypr0fane | how a bout file browser? I don't have them there | 15:38 |
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| FireFly | "Non-rectangular clipping regions are not supported for performance reasons." darn.. | 15:39 |
| bennypr0fane | it seem the option to reinstall the update has disappeared. or has anyone found it? | 15:41 |
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| bennypr0fane | Who has restored one of the backup created before updating yet? What exactly does it do? Specifically will all the system settings, apps, accounts, app settings etc. be back to the previous state, or do you have to re-customize stuff? | 16:02 |
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| SK_work | bennypr0fane: backups only backups some stuff | 16:05 |
| SK_work | accounts yes, but not the rest | 16:05 |
| SK_work | so basically, you need tor ecustomize quite a lot | 16:05 |
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| sqozz | hello everyone, got my jolla just some hours ago and want to update it now.. but after starting the update it loads saying "downloading" and after some minutes it fails with the message: "problems with store". I already tried to delete my account and add it again and resetting the device :( | 16:14 |
| Tegu | it seems that there are some issues with the store atm | 16:15 |
| Yaniel | what version do you have currently (out of curiosity) | 16:15 |
| Yaniel | and yeah apparently there are server side issues so just wait a bit and try again | 16:16 |
| Tegu | for example I can't install apps. but hmm, I was able to update yesterday | 16:16 |
| Nav | There are probably lots of people trying to update now | 16:17 |
| covox | sqozz: store is a bit congested right now with people trying to get the update | 16:17 |
| sqozz | current version is 1.0.2.5.. okay, then the new update must wait just a little bit more | 16:17 |
| TMavica | i cant use store until now | 16:17 |
| sdjayna | yeah guys we do have an issue in store, but it's nothing to do with the update | 16:17 |
| sdjayna | think the fix should be ready tomorrow with any luck, it's in testing now | 16:17 |
| sdjayna | apologies | 16:17 |
| TMavica | thanks | 16:17 |
| sdjayna | actually that doesn't sound like sqozz 's problem though | 16:18 |
| TMavica | but why some people can use store, some cant? | 16:18 |
| TMavica | region problem? | 16:19 |
| sdjayna | TMavica: it's all do with whether you've had different accounts on the same device / whether you've installed the app somewhere before | 16:19 |
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| sdjayna | sqozz: bear with me, we think we know the issue | 16:20 |
| sdjayna | sqozz: give me 10 minutes to take a look | 16:20 |
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| sdjayna | sqozz: it's particular to updating from that earlier version | 16:21 |
| tango_ | damnit I lost my jolla charging cable | 16:23 |
| ggabriel | that'd be a problem if the jolla were an iphone ;) | 16:23 |
| Yaniel | fortunately it is a standard usb-microusb cable | 16:23 |
| tango_ | yeah but I liked it 8-P | 16:23 |
| entil | hehe, the folders feature is really nice but I find myself trying to swipe back to the default view, makes no sense to tap it :D | 16:23 |
| sqozz | await instructions, sdjayna ;) | 16:23 |
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| tango_ | btw anybody here used osmand? | 16:23 |
| ggabriel | entil: agree... | 16:24 |
| tango_ | I got strange bugs such as the compass being rotated 90 degrees and stuff coming up in russian | 16:24 |
| tango_ | (while in france) | 16:24 |
| entil | also when naming it I was looking for a pull-down menu option "Set name" or something | 16:24 |
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| entil | I dunno if there's anyone here who'd take notes or if I should just find the time for tjc :P | 16:24 |
| ggabriel | irc is read, but it may be ephemeral sometimes | 16:24 |
| entil | and it's probably the worst place for feature issues because those should be officially recorded and anyone who happens to see this at any time is probably too busy to care | 16:25 |
| TMavica | sdjayna thanks | 16:25 |
| sdjayna | sqozz: could you try again please? | 16:27 |
| sdjayna | sqozz: have updated the configuration on our side.. | 16:27 |
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| sqozz | sdjayna: spinner is spinning | 16:29 |
| sdjayna | sqozz: okay..let's see how we go, otherwise i'll delve into the logs.. | 16:30 |
| sqozz | looks better now.. the image on the top is scrolling | 16:30 |
| TMavica | sdjayna, is Jolla map package is missing? i cant do it through terminal too | 16:31 |
| sqozz | previously i thought its an display error and the overlay is a little bit off, lol | 16:31 |
| sdjayna | sqozz: *another item goes onto the release checklist* — haha oh dear, yeah if it doesn't move much i'd think the same | 16:31 |
| tango_ | would be nice if the system update download actually had a progress meter | 16:31 |
| tango_ | oh wait | 16:31 |
| stephg | it does | 16:32 |
| tango_ | yeah | 16:32 |
| stephg | :) | 16:32 |
| tango_ | I just noticed | 16:32 |
| tango_ | lol | 16:32 |
| tango_ | so funny | 16:32 |
| tango_ | congrats to the jolla guys | 16:32 |
| tango_ | you really deserve to break through as the real innovation | 16:32 |
| sdjayna | TMavica: jolla map is only available through the store afaik | 16:32 |
| Morpog_PC__ | tango_, we get another update before the break | 16:33 |
| tango_ | before the what? | 16:33 |
| Morpog_PC__ | the summer break | 16:33 |
| tango_ | oh | 16:33 |
| entil | the issues you're talking about, are they related to not being able to install apps? I just tried installing tinyedit but it failed | 16:33 |
| tango_ | wait | 16:33 |
| tango_ | they take summer breaks? | 16:33 |
| tango_ | I thought they worked 24/7/365 | 16:33 |
| sdjayna | entil: yes, sorry sounds like you've been hit by that one | 16:33 |
| Morpog_PC__ | yes, they announced it on tjc a few months ago | 16:33 |
| sqozz | sdjayna: update is downloaded - installing it now.. thanks for your perfect fast help! | 16:33 |
| entil | sdjayna: damn | 16:33 |
| sdjayna | TMavica: it might be because of the store issue | 16:34 |
| entil | good thing I'm in no rush with installing anything | 16:34 |
| sdjayna | sorry everyone, it's a tricky fix too, but with any luck tomorrow.. | 16:34 |
| entil | another feature request might be that the store would inform about possible problems ;) | 16:34 |
| entil | I'm sure not every jolla user is on this channel | 16:34 |
| sdjayna | entil: yeah, we put it in the release notes and on together, but yeah - it would be good especially if we take the store down for maintenence | 16:35 |
| entil | hah, I thought I read through the release notes well enough but ... meh | 16:35 |
| sqozz | entil: who decides that a jolla is a great device, also knows about irc :P | 16:35 |
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| entil | sqozz: I think everyone should just buy a jolla but unfortunately not everyone will have the time or interest to hang out on irc ;P | 16:36 |
| entil | people want things to Just Work after all | 16:36 |
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| entil | and that's also why I'm a bit dismayed at how un-jolla-like the folders feel :/ | 16:36 |
| entil | but I'll just take that up on tjc if I remember it when I get a moment | 16:36 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | entil, I'm sure they will refine the experience of folders | 16:37 |
| entil | that'd be nice | 16:37 |
| entil | but I love the feature, highly welcome | 16:37 |
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| sqozz | is there absolutely no way to install apps from the jolla store? Just want to mess a little bit around with my phone | 16:47 |
| sdjayna1 | sqozz: urm have you updated and it doesn't work for you? | 16:47 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | sdjayna1, I guess he uses an image for nexus 4 | 16:48 |
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| sqozz | sdjayna1: yeah the systemupdate worked absolutely fine now! But as mentioned above, the app downloads do not work | 16:49 |
| sdjayna1 | sqozz: boo..you could try remove/add your jolla account, there's an outside chance that might fix it, but dependent on a couple of factors | 16:50 |
| TMavica | nil help, LOL | 16:50 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | lol point 3 could be called 3. The sailor :) - http://arcticstartup.com/2014/06/10/the-11-people-you-meet-at-finnish-startup-events | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | Morpog_PC__: hahaha | 16:53 |
| SK_work | Morpog_PC__: 10 is Jaakko Roppola at MWC | 16:55 |
| Morpog_PC__ | :) | 16:55 |
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| sqozz | sdjayna1: worked like a charm. Thank you very much, again! | 16:56 |
| Anz_ | the new scroll bar.. does it work in browser too? | 16:56 |
| Stskeeps | SK_work: uh-huh | 16:56 |
| sdjayna1 | sqozz: oh really!? great! as i say, hopefully a proper fix tomorrow, apologies for the hassle | 16:56 |
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| tbr | hmmm, internet sharing button added to settings favourites stopped working after the update. known problem? | 17:00 |
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| SK_work | tbr: yea | 17:02 |
| SK_work | in the known issues | 17:02 |
| SK_work | readd it ? | 17:02 |
| tbr | k | 17:02 |
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| tbr | SK_work: just wanted to check it's known | 17:04 |
| ln- | what about... is this issue known outside of tjc: https://together.jolla.com/question/41004/bug-some-application-names-not-shown-in-store/ | 17:05 |
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| TMavica | I think make a thread in together to tell ppl store not work? | 17:06 |
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| sdjayna1 | ln-: yes, i actually have a bug assigned to myself about it | 17:06 |
| ln- | ok, excellent. | 17:07 |
| sdjayna1 | thanks for highlighting..now the release is out should get to it soon | 17:07 |
| sdjayna1 | ln-: it's a backend issue, not on the device, so will be fixed without pushing out an update | 17:07 |
| ln- | alright | 17:07 |
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| * cb400f luvs his launcher folders long time | 17:43 | |
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| TMavica | done a factory reset, now i cant install any apk. tap the file no response | 17:49 |
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| cb400f | TMavica: does it work if you manually copy the .apk to /data/app/ ? | 17:54 |
| Turski | TMavica: and did you update to recent version? | 17:54 |
| TMavica | i just reset my device from 1.005 to 1.025 to 1.0617, tap the apk in transfer, no popup windows | 17:55 |
| TMavica | also use command line to install also nil help | 17:55 |
| Turski | did you install android compatibility? ;) | 17:56 |
| TMavica | sure | 17:56 |
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| cb400f | "have you tried turning it off and on again?" ;-) | 17:56 |
| TMavica | reboot and tried | 17:57 |
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| cb400f | do you have a bunch of alien* processes running? | 17:57 |
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| TMavica | systemctl status aliendalvik.service | 18:00 |
| TMavica | it is loaded | 18:00 |
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| TMavica | strange.. | 18:02 |
| TMavica | it havent start | 18:02 |
| TMavica | after bootup | 18:02 |
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| mornfall | hmm, any idea why would jolla talk to the router but not to the laptop on the same wlan? | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | mornfall: AP seperation? | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | at least, some routers have that | 18:52 |
| mornfall | I don't think so, it worked a few weeks ago. | 18:52 |
| mornfall | No changes on the router. | 18:52 |
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| mornfall | hmm, broken arp, it seems | 18:54 |
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| clau3 | vertocal scrolling completely dead, could not get out of lock screen. horizontal was fine, so I could change ambiance | 19:01 |
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| clau3 | had to reboot over ssh, button wouldn't work :\ | 19:02 |
| clau3 | with latest version. | 19:05 |
| Turski | O_o | 19:05 |
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| mornfall | ok, it works now | 19:07 |
| mornfall | also, I crashed my jolla pretty hard | 19:08 |
| mornfall | shut wlan on the AP down, hit "connect to internet" on jolla (settings->wlan), bam black screen | 19:08 |
| mornfall | had to take battery out to get any reaction | 19:08 |
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| reviewjolla | Does someone know in which system folder the folder icons (images) are located? | 19:09 |
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| mornfall | reviewjolla: find /usr -name \*fold\*.png hints at /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch/icons/icon-launcher-folder-*.png | 19:10 |
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| clau3 | and led sometimes is on for no reason, not even blinking sometimes | 19:11 |
| mornfall | reviewjolla: yep, those are the right icons :) | 19:13 |
| mornfall | (KDE's fish:// and jolla are awesome together :-) | 19:13 |
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| reviewjolla | mornfall: Thanks a lot! Now to create our own ones ;) | 19:15 |
| clau3 | going to battery reset it | 19:16 |
| clau3 | brb | 19:16 |
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| Tegu | yay, store is working | 19:27 |
| Teme | should skype calls work on the Android app? | 19:30 |
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| Teme | can`t answer, just getting a black screen | 19:31 |
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| clau3 | I was using it in the previous version, but it worked only on loud speaker and headset | 19:37 |
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| clau3 | however, it was veru unstable | 19:38 |
| clau3 | very* | 19:38 |
| TMavica | anyone notice when making a call, the signal change from 4g to 2g | 19:38 |
| Quu | for some reason, my screen turns on ever ~15 minutes | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | TMavica: yes, but should go to either 2g or 3g | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | TMavica: Voice over 4G is not really widespread | 19:38 |
| TMavica | is it normal@@ | 19:38 |
| TMavica | ok | 19:38 |
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| TMavica | i found it only drop to 2g not 3g | 19:39 |
| clau3 | regarding the screen, the timeout seems unstable too: sometimes I unlock, go to home screen, and it goes to sleep in 5 seconds or less. | 19:39 |
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| clau3 | but this was true for the previous version too | 19:39 |
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| clau3 | the opposite happened too, going to lock screen and 5s timer being ignored. | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | evening Venemo | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | TMavica: what mobile provider? | 19:40 |
| TMavica | Smartone | 19:40 |
| clau3 | presumably the timers are not always reset according to the situation | 19:40 |
| Venemo | hi | 19:41 |
| Venemo | you too Stskeeps :) | 19:41 |
| TMavica | my 4g signal is MAX | 19:41 |
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| Zombie3 | I've got a Jolla that can't be reset to defaults, and can't upgrade or install anything from the store | 19:42 |
| mornfall | hmm, there was this new black screen with clock when you uncover the proximity sensor of a locked phone | 19:42 |
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| mornfall | where did it go? | 19:42 |
| mornfall | oh | 19:42 |
| mornfall | it's back | 19:43 |
| Zombie3 | if I reset from the menu, it just reboots immediately, not erasing anything | 19:43 |
| mornfall | I guess there's a timeout at work too. :) | 19:43 |
| clau3 | what? | 19:43 |
| clau3 | glance screen? | 19:43 |
| mornfall | clau3: presumably | 19:43 |
| clau3 | on jolla? | 19:43 |
| mfulz | does someone know how I could fake via build.prop the jolla to be look like a s3 or something? I want to dl navigon but it's not listed because of incompatible device | 19:43 |
| mornfall | clau3: put it in your pocket and pull it out then just look | 19:43 |
| clau3 | k | 19:43 |
| mornfall | (assuming you have latest update) | 19:43 |
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| Zombie3 | pkcon refresh says "Fatal error: Authentication failed (is SSU set up correctly?)" | 19:44 |
| clau3 | mornfall: nothing | 19:44 |
| mornfall | hmm, I can certainly reproduce it although it's kinda dodgy | 19:44 |
| mornfall | I think there's a timeout for how long it's been covered | 19:44 |
| mornfall | you can cover the proximity sensor for ~5 seconds and uncover it | 19:45 |
| clau3 | nothing | 19:45 |
| mornfall | works every time now (when I count to 5) | 19:45 |
| clau3 | maybe a future feature? | 19:46 |
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| mornfall | clau3: I think it's a current feature. :-) | 19:47 |
| mornfall | I didn't do anything special AFAIK. | 19:47 |
| clau3 | should be configurable | 19:47 |
| clau3 | but it wasn't mentioned in release notes | 19:47 |
| mornfall | maybe it's an easter egg :D | 19:48 |
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| mornfall | in which case I have no idea how I activated it | 19:48 |
| clau3 | well, I just hope vertical scroll won't die on me again. I'm not keen on hw reseting it | 19:48 |
| mornfall | clau3: on the lock screen? | 19:49 |
| clau3 | yeah | 19:49 |
| clau3 | horiz was still fine | 19:49 |
| mornfall | clau3: make sure you don't have very very translucent notifications on top of it | 19:49 |
| mornfall | happened to me twice right after updating | 19:49 |
| clau3 | but on lock screen power button does not allow shutdown | 19:49 |
| mornfall | you can close them as normal | 19:49 |
| clau3 | hmm, I'll keep that in mind, thanks | 19:50 |
| mornfall | (if you try to use the pulley menu, you can see a "ghost" of it moving... swiping from bottom fixes the problem) | 19:50 |
| clau3 | roger | 19:51 |
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| Zombie3 | oh man. It fixed itself after I re-entered my Jolla account credentials | 19:53 |
| clau3 | have you noticed that when you unlock sometimes you get a glimpse of the screen just before locking? | 19:53 |
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| mornfall | I can't say I did. | 19:54 |
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| clau3 | maybe it's just my eyes :) | 19:55 |
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| clau3 | I just got blue led, dim, just before autolock | 19:56 |
| clau3 | is this a feature maybe? ! | 19:56 |
| clau3 | yes, I can reproduce it | 19:57 |
| clau3 | leave the phone in app, and just before timeout the led gets on | 19:57 |
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| * stephg wonders whether Jolla will win a Europa this evening ;) | 19:58 | |
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| mornfall | clau3: apparently not here | 19:58 |
| faenil | evening | 19:58 |
| clau3 | hmm, sometimes it doesn't even go to sleep :( | 19:58 |
| clau3 | there's definitely something wrong | 19:59 |
| stephg | faenil ning! (just to make you feel at home ;) ) | 19:59 |
| faenil | stephg, :) | 19:59 |
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| clau3 | damn. gonna pull battery off for a few minutes | 20:00 |
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| clau3 | sleep is totally messed up | 20:00 |
| clau3 | brb | 20:00 |
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| clau3 | same thing, I get blue led before timeout | 20:05 |
| clau3 | while in irc client | 20:06 |
| clau3 | and again, it does not go to sleep anymore | 20:07 |
| clau3 | :( | 20:07 |
| stephg | clau3: no blue led here, just let my email fade out and nada | 20:08 |
| stephg | I wonder whether the blue led is somehow related to it being irc | 20:09 |
| stephg | (and messages) | 20:09 |
| clau3 | no idea | 20:09 |
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| clau3 | wouldn't be a bad feature, tho | 20:12 |
| clau3 | I get ot just before the screen dim | 20:12 |
| clau3 | trying another app | 20:13 |
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| clau3 | I get it while in mitakuuluu too | 20:14 |
| clau3 | trying home screen | 20:15 |
| stephg | hehe try something that isn't a chat app? | 20:15 |
| stephg | so I'm very stupid | 20:15 |
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| stephg | but can someone tell me how the quickscroll works | 20:15 |
| FireFly | if you flick in a long list, two buttons appear to the right | 20:16 |
| FireFly | jump-to-top and jump-to-bottom | 20:16 |
| stephg | yes I see that but pressing them and dragging does nothing | 20:16 |
| stephg | well not like on harmattan | 20:16 |
| Morpog_PC__ | https://twitter.com/iCODeRUS/statuses/476456340182024192 | 20:16 |
| clau3 | home doesn't go to sleep again :( | 20:17 |
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| clau3 | oh yes, I get the led in home screen too | 20:17 |
| clau3 | changed timeout to 15s | 20:18 |
| kimmoli | clau3: that is intended | 20:18 |
| kimmoli | led before dimm tells that the screen is as dimm as it gets | 20:19 |
| clau3 | nice feature, but please mention it in release notes :8 | 20:19 |
| clau3 | or did I miss it in the notes? | 20:19 |
| kimmoli | dunno | 20:19 |
| mornfall | well, I don't get a led, but I do get a glance screen... I'd say I win. ;-) | 20:20 |
| clau3 | so, it's dark in the room, that's why I get it. | 20:20 |
| clau3 | how do I get glance screen?! | 20:20 |
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| clau3 | mornfall: try a dark room for the led :) | 20:20 |
| kimmoli | and turn brightness to min | 20:20 |
| clau3 | mine is nearly max, but because it's dark screen is dimmed a lot | 20:21 |
| stephg | ah so the screen can't dim | 20:21 |
| stephg | it lights the LED instead | 20:21 |
| stephg | nice | 20:21 |
| clau3 | apparently to minimum | 20:21 |
| stephg | (to say it's about to go to sleep_ | 20:21 |
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| clau3 | but but... glancr screen? how? :) | 20:22 |
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| mornfall | I get a LED now. :) | 20:22 |
| clau3 | \o/ | 20:22 |
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| mornfall | clau3: let the phone fall asleep, wait 20 seconds, cover proximity sensor for 5 seconds, uncover, profit | 20:24 |
| clau3 | k | 20:25 |
| mornfall | clau3: (leaving it covered for 20 seconds would probably work too) | 20:25 |
| clau3 | nothing :( | 20:26 |
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| clau3 | going to try different waiting times | 20:27 |
| mornfall | the sensor is in the right-top area of the bezel | 20:27 |
| mornfall | works with a custom ambience too, so it's not that | 20:30 |
| clau3 | still nothing | 20:31 |
| clau3 | not even if I turn it face down | 20:31 |
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| clau3 | csd tool was improved it seems | 20:46 |
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| clau3 | kimmoli: thanks for the info about the led | 20:59 |
| kimmoli | np | 20:59 |
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| Andy80 | hi | 21:08 |
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| Andy80 | I've noticed that when Jolla is in standby for a while, the wifi connection is turned off... is there a way to keep it always on? | 21:08 |
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| phlixi | Andy80: a few days ago i was logged in via ssh and still logged in the next morning. charger conected... (dont know if this makes a difference) | 21:11 |
| Andy80 | charger connected.... a huge difference I think | 21:11 |
| phlixi | (other then that i do not monitor connectivity) | 21:11 |
| phlixi | yep, likely, but i dont know ;) | 21:11 |
| Andy80 | no need to monitor... when you turn on the display you see it reconnecting... | 21:11 |
| stephg | Andy80 yeah the charger does change behaviour | 21:11 |
| stephg | Andy80: that's not my experience; I can usually ping it when it gets left around the house | 21:12 |
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| AL13N | phlixi: Andy80: it looks like network activity holds a wake lock... i've seen this also, that network stuff is disable after long time standby time | 21:14 |
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| Andy80 | AL13N, this doesn't allow someone to receive a message on WA, gtalk etc... for example... | 21:15 |
| AL13N | sometimes, to reach the phone via ssh, i'll need to wake up the device first, before i can ssh into it | 21:15 |
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| AL13N | Andy80: i'm not sure, i'm speculating | 21:15 |
| AL13N | in any case, i've seen this before | 21:15 |
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| Andy80 | the other problem is that if you have 3G connection ON, it wastes more battery than WIFI | 21:15 |
| Andy80 | so instead of saving battery, it consumes more | 21:15 |
| AL13N | i doubt that | 21:16 |
| stephg | AL13N: the n4 still behaves like that but I've not seen that on my jolla in a long time | 21:16 |
| Andy80 | there was the same problem on WP at the beginning | 21:16 |
| AL13N | Andy80: i have 3G/4G on ALL the time | 21:16 |
| AL13N | Andy80: battery lasts 2/3 days | 21:16 |
| Andy80 | how is it possible? | 21:16 |
| AL13N | i have wifi on all the time too :-) | 21:17 |
| phlixi | AL13N: but do you have wifi at the same time? because all phones i used allways burn down the battery if there is no wifi (and therefore data via 2/3g) | 21:17 |
| Andy80 | mine last a maximum of: since 8:00 in the morning to 20:00/21:00 if I don't use it too much | 21:17 |
| AL13N | though it doesn't always connect to a wifi | 21:17 |
| AL13N | i do however not have chat accounts | 21:17 |
| AL13N | maybe that changes things | 21:17 |
| phlixi | pretty sure chat accounts do that, but whats the point of a smart phone at all without? :-) | 21:18 |
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| AL13N | no gtalk, no facebook, no whatever | 21:18 |
| AL13N | phlixi: well, i don't need it | 21:18 |
| stephg | I have all that stuff and still get well over a day, so I'm very happy with it :) | 21:18 |
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| AL13N | phlixi: and the smart phone for me is basically a small fingerterm | 21:18 |
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| AL13N | if i'm in front of my settopbox and it needs to restart again, i can ssh from my phone | 21:18 |
| phlixi | AL13N: isnt ssh the same as skype? (from battery perspective) | 21:18 |
| stephg | phlixi: no | 21:19 |
| AL13N | my ssh is on all the time for me | 21:19 |
| AL13N | so | 21:19 |
| AL13N | not always connected though | 21:19 |
| stephg | but even then only if you're doing something with it | 21:19 |
| stephg | god knows what skype does these days in the background... | 21:19 |
| AL13N | true that | 21:19 |
| AL13N | no skype for me | 21:19 |
| phlixi | but then why does it drop some times if you dont do anything? of course there is keep alive the same as with skype xmpp etc... | 21:20 |
| AL13N | i don't know about that | 21:20 |
| AL13N | but, if you want, wasn't there a connman beta test opt-in or something? | 21:20 |
| phlixi | ...i was using skype as "chat" in contrast to "ssh", take what ever messenger you like instead | 21:20 |
| AL13N | though, i'm not gonna sign in yet though... | 21:20 |
| stephg | https://together.jolla.com/question/45026/hotfix-opt-in-hotfix-for-connectivity-in-upcoming-update-7/ | 21:20 |
| AL13N | exactly | 21:21 |
| AL13N | maybe the new version won't drop connectivity, or it might be worse | 21:21 |
| AL13N | anyway, i'm going to sleep | 21:22 |
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| AL13N | i wish people would say what they changed if they change an app | 21:22 |
| AL13N | especially maps | 21:22 |
| AL13N | it makes me extremely distrustfull | 21:22 |
| AL13N | anyway, night all | 21:23 |
| phlixi | n8^^ | 21:23 |
| Quu | yea, would be nice to know what changed in the maps | 21:25 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Quu u really use maps? | 21:26 |
| Quu | yes. | 21:27 |
| M4rtinK | for the record I note anything relevant that changed in modRana in the release notes and post them to TMO :) | 21:27 |
| Quu | all android navigators crash bit too often to use | 21:27 |
| Quu | so here maps. ugh., | 21:27 |
| stephg | Quu: only thing I know for certain is that the maps now you can configure the distance to be metric or not | 21:28 |
| Quu | ok well, neat? | 21:28 |
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| sqozz | has everyone an idea, why chsh -s /bin/zsh does not work for the root user? | 21:33 |
| sqozz | the shell in /etc/passwd is changed to /bin/zsh but when i log off and devel-su into root, the shell is still bash/sh | 21:34 |
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| stephg | might be devel-su doing it | 21:34 |
| sqozz | when running "zsh" as root everything works | 21:34 |
| stephg | if you want you can install sudo from mer-tools and see if that behaves | 21:34 |
| coderus | http://i.imgur.com/in4Lg6q.png | 21:36 |
| sqozz | hmm running sudo chsh -s /bin/zsh ends up with this message: | 21:37 |
| sqozz | Changing shell for root. | 21:37 |
| sqozz | chsh: Shell not changed. | 21:37 |
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| stephg | sqozz if you're interested: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-May/004163.html | 21:37 |
| phlixi | coderus: that looks awesome! (ok, to be hones, how about without the background instead of the half transparent white?) | 21:37 |
| sqozz | nice link, definitly going to read it | 21:38 |
| stephg | hehe coderus you can't please all of the people all of the time ;) | 21:38 |
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| sqozz | stephg: read it, understand it! Nice to know, because the same question came into my head after the first use of devel-su.. But why i can't set the default shell of the root user, even when i am root? :( | 21:43 |
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| stephg | that's what I mean sqozz, I suspect that devel-su is probably executing /bin/bash for you | 21:47 |
| stephg | that's why I said try installing sudo instead | 21:47 |
| stephg | if sudo -i does the right thing you know where the problem is | 21:48 |
| Acce | so, anyone got the caldav to sync with their owncloud? | 21:48 |
| Kondou | yup | 21:48 |
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| stephg | sqozz: as root: ssu ar mer-tools; ssu ur pkcon refresh; pkcon install sudo | 21:48 |
| stephg | ^^ should work | 21:48 |
| Acce | should there be new calendar & colour in the app then? | 21:49 |
| sqozz | *harrumph* didn't get it at first, sorry.. i got sudo already from the open repos | 21:49 |
| Kondou | Acce in the calendar app | 21:49 |
| Acce | it didn't appear anywhere although it found my calendars | 21:49 |
| Kondou | however force syncing doesn't work yet | 21:49 |
| stephg | aah cool | 21:49 |
| Kondou | I noticed | 21:49 |
| stephg | sqozz: just try that and see if that picks up the changed shell | 21:49 |
| stephg | if not then that's... curious | 21:50 |
| Acce | ah, so I'll have to wait for the timed sync? | 21:50 |
| Kondou | yup | 21:50 |
| sqozz | excatly what you expected stephg: devel-su executes /bin/bash for me.. is the source meanwhile open? | 21:50 |
| stephg | sqozz: not yet | 21:51 |
| stephg | sqozz: the author is Aard here (but he's probably in bed by now) | 21:52 |
| Acce | Kondou: thanks, also, looks like the sync in the pulley worked when i put "manually" to the sync interval combobox | 21:52 |
| Kondou | ah, okay | 21:52 |
| Aard | sqozz: no, and it's quite low priority to spend the time to make it open, as there's very little gain for you to have the source. it'll eventually happen, though | 21:53 |
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| sqozz | Aard: if you read this, whould it be possible to change devel-su to read and use the shell set in /etc/passwd? Whould be nice, even if it's not even necessary much less urgent :) | 21:54 |
| Acce | hmm actually, no, the sync didnt work.. but at least the calendar now shows in the app | 21:55 |
| sqozz | ahh, thanks for your answer Aard.. didn't event notice your message while i'm writing.. sorry | 21:56 |
| sqozz | stephg: thanks for your answer as well :) | 21:56 |
| coderus | http://i.imgur.com/OP6Yauv.png | 21:57 |
| stephg | np :) | 21:57 |
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| Aard | sqozz: it might behave a bit unexpected. we're already reading in passwd for the user entry, so it'd use the shell set for the _user_, not for root | 22:00 |
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| Aard | oh, wait, we're reading a password entry for root already as well, so that should be doable without too much additional code as well | 22:01 |
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| phlixi | coderus: this looks awesome! :-) | 22:03 |
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| phlixi | ...besides the used wallpaper :D | 22:03 |
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| stephg | see I still don't like the squares ;) | 22:05 |
| stephg | anyway I just fell down the stairs, which means it's time for bed | 22:05 |
| stephg | gnight folks | 22:05 |
| phlixi | i strongly recommend this wallpager for everyone :D http://phlixi.de/filedump/bg_mandelbrot_v1.png | 22:07 |
| phlixi | hopefully you have plush stairs or something like that :D | 22:08 |
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| stephg | phlixi: no, but I only fell down three ;) | 22:09 |
| phlixi | ;) | 22:09 |
| stephg | also if you'd not seen https://github.com/kimmoli/qtcreator-ambience-wizard | 22:09 |
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| coderus | stephg: http://i.imgur.com/gNdsFwz.png | 22:09 |
| phlixi | i build my own paper and there cant be a better one :D but thanks, i will look into it ;) | 22:10 |
| stephg | I like it, just taking the corners off makes such a difference IMO :) | 22:10 |
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| phlixi | i have to agree, rounded cormers look a littlebit nicer | 22:11 |
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