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Stskeepsgood morning everybody05:32
kimmoliGM05:39
kimmoliit is my daughter last school day at primary school...05:42
Stskeepsit's saturday? :P05:42
kimmolijust getting grade papers05:43
kimmoliand sing-a-song05:43
kimmolibut had few minutes to tinker with canvas https://app.younited.com/?shareObject=4b088581-a7d0-3004-fcd4-44afd5b2f2f205:43
kimmolinow must go..05:43
Stskeepsah05:44
Stskeepscya05:44
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tbrkimmoli: good to hear that you got it working05:58
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tbrStskeeps: stalker ;)06:03
Stskeepstbr: twitter follower06:04
Stskeeps:P06:04
kimmoli_sailingi did config only workgroup and changed security to smbpasswd, added user, and added share to /home/nemo06:11
tbrStskeeps: below 30s is still rare, hence the comment06:11
Stskeepstbr: pure coincidence, i'm not viciously refreshing my twitter account every 10 seconds to see if anybody wrote anything bad about me06:12
Stskeeps.. just every 5 minutes06:12
Stskeeps:P06:12
Stskeepsstill, cool work!06:12
Stskeepsdid you have to bring in kereberos, or?06:12
tbrStskeeps: krb5, yes. see the project. but it's just 5 source packages, so still fairly decent06:14
kimmoli_sailingnow just need to make systemd service for smbd or something to autostart it...06:15
kimmoli_sailingand i can get rid of win-sshfs buggy poc06:17
Stskeepsbonus points for making the authentication match with device lock code.. :P06:17
kimmoli_sailingi think.i just share / as root user....06:18
tbrStskeeps: is the code available as plaintext? if so it's just a few lines of script06:19
Stskeepsmm i guess a hash somewhere, but i don't know in detail06:20
Stskeepsthere's a tool for authenticating that recovery menu uses.. i think06:20
tbrif it has a pam module... :)06:20
Stskeepsugh, pam in the morning.,.06:20
tbrhaha06:20
* tbr should add pam_sssd and make the lock screen authenticate against corporate AD/MDS/LDAP. Can I get a keyboard instead of the numpad? :)06:22
Stskeepsmy son just taught himself to take a paper cloth and polish a surface without tearing it apart..06:23
Stskeepsi think he just level up'ed to 'able to making a living on his own'06:23
coderusmoooooning06:23
tbr:)06:23
tbrgood moaning06:23
coderustbr: as Jonni said there are no technical restrictions for length and symbols in devicelock, just UI06:23
kimmoli_sailinghmm.. use accelerationsensor as ui, 5 turns left, 3 right....06:25
tbrcoderus: that's what I expected. Hence I asked for a keyboard ;)06:25
* tbr used to have a long password on his n95006:26
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coderustbr: hack /usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/jolla/settings/system/PinInput.qml06:28
* tbr takes a mental note :)06:29
tbrthanks06:29
* kimmoli_sailing needs more coffee... 06:32
* tbr had two mugs and is slowly booting06:32
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kimmoli_sailingwhen fingerterm will support systemwide clipboard?06:33
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tbrI thought it does?06:38
tbrmeh, so, samba 3.5.9 is horribly outdated. I wonder what we should go for then. something out of the 3.6 series or straight to 4.106:39
* tbr will have to look at packaging and deps, maybe I can find those on the suse obs06:40
kimmoli_sailingcoderus: tnx for pointing that file, changed keypadTextColor to white06:43
kimmoli_sailingnow i can see what keys to press06:43
coderuskimmoli_sailing: fingerterm supporting clipboard, just fix was released too late to ship06:47
coderuskimmoli_sailing: you can build it yourself06:47
coderusnemomobile/fingerterm06:47
coderusgithub06:47
kimmoli_sailingyes...06:49
kimmoli_sailingif it is updated in coming updates i'm fine06:50
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tbrthere is also a silica version of fingerterm in chum07:00
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pptbr: I thought windows 7+ pretty much wants samba4?07:07
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Stskeepsmorn Sfiet_Konstantin07:13
Sfiet_Konstantinhello Stskeeps07:13
Sfiet_Konstantinweek-end time07:13
Stskeepsindeed07:13
Stskeepsi'm going to spend it in the sun, in the garden with a good book on making addictive behaviour and spending time with my son07:13
Stskeepswill be good07:14
Sfiet_Konstantin:)07:14
Sfiet_Konstantinaddictive behaviour ?07:14
Stskeeps( http://www.amazon.com/Hooked-How-Build-Habit-Forming-Products-ebook/dp/B00HJ4A43S )07:14
* Sfiet_Konstantin gonna hack patchmanager and some other stuff07:14
Sfiet_Konstantinno sun here07:14
Sfiet_KonstantinStskeeps: sounds that a pretty good book :)07:14
Stskeepsof course some might claim it's evil, but .. :P07:15
Stskeepssometimes in order to make sure people get the most out of an offering, it needs to be part of people's habits07:15
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Sfiet_KonstantinStskeeps: indeed07:16
Stskeepsand not in the way like facebook does it at times, like overly attached girlfriend like..07:17
Sfiet_KonstantinStskeeps: Facebook doesn't have an offering07:17
Sfiet_Konstantin(well, a bit trolly)07:17
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Sfiet_Konstantinbut in FB case, it's more about having info for them too07:18
Stskeeps:nod:07:18
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kimmoli_sailinghmmm pininput.qml change affected only settings page, not actual lock code entry... or do i need to reboot to refresh?07:34
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coderuskimmoli_sailing: restart lipstick07:59
kimmoli_sailingoh, ok.08:04
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AL13Nkimmoli, kimmoli_sailing: /me is curious what you're doing with the lock screen? a redesign of some kind?08:56
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kimmoli_sailingjust changed color of keypad numbers so i can see them08:56
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kimmoli_sailingand maybe to old safe style number lock mechanism.08:57
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* kimmoli_sailing does not know yet...08:59
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kimmoli_blahoo. i really start <3 samba.. just came home, clicked refresh on windows explorer and thumbnails of recent photos started to appear.09:24
kimmoli_blahthanks tbr09:25
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AL13Nkimmoli_blah: i guess it's not that usefull for me, i have no windows at home09:29
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faenilmorning o/09:33
tbrkimmoli_blah: you're welcome :)09:35
tbrAL13N: you're free to package nfs-kernel-server09:35
AL13Nheh09:35
AL13Ni use nfs mounts on the jolla09:35
AL13Nbut not the server part09:35
tbryeah, in which direction is simply by preference09:36
AL13Nyes09:36
AL13Nsamba server probably drains battery that much faster09:36
tbr[citation needed]09:37
AL13Ntrue09:37
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AL13Ntbr: maybe kimmoli_blah or kimmoli_sailing_ can provide such benchmarks09:37
phdeswertbr: AL13N: Well you could make usb_moded start and stop the samba server only when it it connected through USB. If you would not use it over wifi of course.09:38
AL13Ngonna give fscache another go with nfs09:38
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tbrphdeswer: that was my thought yesterday actually09:38
AL13Nmaybe i should use intr with nfs for my unreliable wifi09:38
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phdeswertbr: this should do that if that would be what somebody would like http://piratepad.net/sDqjIR1Liq09:45
tbrphdeswer: thanks!09:46
phdeswernp ;)09:46
phdeswerHowever I can't remember how to keep systemd from starting it on boot.09:47
tbrthat snippet goes into the usbmoded config file?09:47
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phdeswerAs described below. It goes into its own file for example /etc/usb-moded/run/samba.ini09:48
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phdeswerAnd not 100% sure but you might need to do killall -HUP usb_moded to force it to reread all the config data09:51
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tbrphdeswer: ah, ok10:09
faenilphdeswer, hey kernel hacker, what's the chance I can replace jolla's display with something like an amoled?10:10
phdeswerfaenil: pretty small. Since you will have to find a amoled that fits, with the right connectors and then hope you can find/write a driver for the touch controller.10:11
faenilah right, touch controller10:13
faenilphdeswer, is jolla touch+display allinone?10:13
Stskeepsafaik10:14
phdeswerfaenil: usually yes. It is easier for production.10:14
faenilso, it boils down to finding a display+touch which fits10:14
faenilno idea how likely that is to happen :)10:14
faenilphdeswer, I don't think drivers will be an issue, don't you agree? it will be a display from another android device most likely, so I guess it won't be easy to get it work10:15
faenilwon't be hard*10:15
phdeswerfaenil: might not be impossible now. But I would be careful about saying it would be easy.10:16
* tbr was about to suggest the Nx4, but that's also an LCD10:16
* faenil likes making frankensteins 10:17
phdeswerYou'll have to get the driver, be able to match it in the kernel etc...10:17
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* tbr would even have a display with shattered glass to play with from his Nx410:17
faenilphdeswer, isn't there something like generic drivers for this stuff?10:17
phdeswerAnd if something is wired up different it will be all fun.10:17
faenilphdeswer, don't they have standard or something10:17
tbrdepends how close to the hardware optimizations were made10:17
faenilyeah..10:17
faenilbut I guess the biggest issue here is having connectors in the same place10:18
phdeswerfaenil: haven't dealt with it in enough detail yet, but experience tells me that most likely that there will be weird undocumented quirks even if it is somehow "standard"10:18
tbror at the very least close enough10:18
faenilphdeswer, mm ok10:18
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faeniland all samsungs seem to come with the chrome all glued together :/10:19
faenilhttp://www.ebay.it/itm/AMOLED-Full-lcd-display-touch-screen-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S-i9000-i9001-White-/151286133922?pt=Centraline_Filtri_Adattatori_Skype&hash=item23395b34a2&_uhb=110:19
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tbrideally, you'd find a similar device (based on MSM8960) but with amoled and similar cabling10:20
phdeswerfaenil: welcome to mass production ;) Easier to fit and easier to use in a repair chain.10:20
faeniltbr, not sure there is any10:20
tbr8930 would prolly work too10:20
tbrthere were quite a few phones, including moto-x iirc. just not sure if amoled10:21
faenilmmm lumia 1020.... :Q__10:21
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faenilmmm nothing, they all come glued to the chrome10:23
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* faenil scratches his daily dream10:25
faenilStskeeps, and detaching touch from display is not doable, is it10:28
phdeswerfaenil: not really no. That is well glued on usually10:30
faenilso if I can't detach the digitizer from the screen this is 100% impossible10:30
faenilokay...it was fun until it lasted10:32
tbrwith a heat gun and several tries, maybe ;)10:32
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tbrmeh osc copypac goes through local client :-/10:33
tbrmy slow connection just got a lot slower10:33
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AL13Ntbr: any ideas for me to try? http://superuser.com/questions/761023/using-nfs-over-unreliable-networks-wifi-mobile11:42
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phdeswerAL13N: do a soft mount at least otherwise you might lock up the thing if the connection happens to drop11:44
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faidenhttps://i.imgur.com/i5nZIHM.jpg11:51
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AL13Nphdeswer: well, wouldn't hard just hang the file access until it's back?11:57
AL13Nphdeswer: what would soft do? unmount when unavailable?11:57
AL13Nwhat would happen to the fscache then?11:57
phdeswerAL13N: throw an error. Hard hang sometimes never gets resolved and you end up with some dead mounts11:58
phdeswerAnyway I gave up NFS years ago, there is much better stuff out there these days. I am always suprised there is somebody that wants to use it.11:59
AL13Nphdeswer: ok, but, what about fscache then? if there's an error, then would the cache be unused? or would it still be used?11:59
AL13Nphdeswer: better? like what?11:59
phdeswerDon't know about fscache. Never used it.11:59
phdeswersshfs is just as easy, encrypted and more reliable12:00
AL13Nyou have a fsc mount option, which uses the standard linux caching module12:00
AL13Nthe way i see it is that sshfs is not good with unreliable networks at all...12:00
AL13Ns/see/hear/12:00
phdeswerI prefer errors/disconnects over silent corruption12:01
AL13Nthis is just about ro mounts, there's no corruption here12:01
AL13Ni want reliability accross different networks12:01
AL13Ni have no problem about the movie just hanging mid play a bit while it switches over to mobile-data+openvpn or something12:02
AL13Nfaenil: tbr: Sage_: ^^ see link above?12:03
AL13Ni mean thp12:03
phdeswerI just checked up a bit on this fscache. Never used it. And hard to say what the effect would be when the connection drops12:03
AL13Nthe must is that you don't use tracker on it... or you'll get some serious shit12:04
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AL13Nbtw: i haven't been able to find xvid codecs, though most other stuff works12:05
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AL13Ngtg: chores, bbiab12:05
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PeperJohnnygepepert13:17
AL13Ngepeperd13:17
PeperJohnnywell wrong chat sorry13:17
AL13Nwrong spelling too :-)13:18
AL13NPeperJohnny: ^^13:18
PeperJohnnygerman spelling ;)13:18
AL13Nok, maybe, my german is so rusty it's nonexisting13:18
AL13Ni was talking about dutch spelling13:18
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PeperJohnnywell i do not speak dutch =)13:19
AL13Nthat'll do it13:19
AL13Ntbr, Sage_, thp, Stskeeps: i found out that the mount of busybox/util-linux doesn't support fsc mount option for nfs mounts... i found this patch: http://www.archivum.info/fedora-cvs-commits@redhat.com/2006-07/00706/rpms-util-linux-devel-util-linux-2.13-nfsmount-fsc.patch-1.1-1.2-util-linux.spec-1.133-1.134.html ; but old codebase... ; this one looks newer: http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2009-May/069276.html13:20
AL13Nbut it's not that easy to get this to work... i think13:21
AL13Nthough maybe i can just build mount.c into mount with gcc manually...13:22
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faidenwhat should i format my SD card to so my jolla can read it? Ext4?14:31
Accefat?14:32
faenilfaiden, it depends on your favourite choice14:32
faenilsome people use btrfs (but be sure to format it FROM THE DEVICE, not from pc)14:32
faidenahh ok14:33
faenilsome use ext4 (but it seems it is recommented to use tweaks for that)14:33
faidenI guess I use what jolla recommend14:33
faenilfaiden, see https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/SDCard#Solution_2:_Tuned_ext414:33
faidenty14:33
Yanielbtrfs has for example wear-leveling which ext4 lacks14:33
faenilfaiden, don't know what's the official Jolla recommendation :)14:33
Yanielwhich is why it is better for sd cards14:34
faidenI c Yaniel I check it out14:34
YanielI suppose the "official" recommendation would be exFAT14:34
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faidenbye bye ZTE Blade14:36
dunpno license tax to MS..14:38
dunpLinux support for exFAT is still limited14:41
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Turskifaiden: i would recommend ext4 without journal14:56
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coderusha, SailfishOS doesnt see ad-hoc networks? really? :D15:06
Sail0ryep15:07
coderushow stupid :D15:08
tbrcoderus: it's an android thing. the drivers are optimized for ap mode, you can usually turn on ad-hoc support but it sucks in all sorts of ways15:08
tbron the positive side, google requirements pushed every chipset vendor to suply an ap-mode capable driver for hotspot mode15:09
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coderusi'm using N9 hotspot :)15:24
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tbrcoderus: there is an AP-mode driver for that chipset, but I guess Nokia was too deeply invested in joikuspot to care for it...15:27
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faidenOk ty Turski15:30
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AL13Nfaiden: i would recommend btrfs15:33
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faidenok i look into it AL13N15:39
faidenty =D15:39
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pdanekIs here anyone who compared latest BB10 with latest Sailfish in terms of Android runtime?19:43
pdanekWhich ones is better?19:43
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phlixi_pdanek: i didnt, but given that (afaik) apps for bb10 have to be prepared to run on bb10 by the developer, i would say sailfish is better20:26
phlixi_...because (in theory) every app runs on sailfish, but only those prepared by their developers run on bb1020:26
phlixi_besides that, i have no idea which one might be better20:26
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AJAX555hmm.. does Jolla send crash reports?20:29
Stskeepsnot unless you configure it20:29
AJAX555I bet it isn't available in settings?20:30
Stskeepscorrect, and requires seperate installation and a working endpoint20:30
AJAX555sad, if it had sent error reports, I would have sent three or four this evening20:32
Stskeeps:nod:20:32
Stskeepsyou can probably make it collect some on device20:32
AJAX555imo there should be opinion in settings to decide whatever to send crash reports or not20:34
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Stskeepswell, might be over in aard's territory to discuss20:36
* Stskeeps gets some sleep20:36
AardAJAX555: we have it in settings internally, but we don't sync the package to public repos currently. I'd like to do that at some point, but it's a bit tricky from legal perspective (a coredump may contain all your passwords and bits of your homemade porn) and how we can handle intake of larger numbers20:39
phlixi_thats easy Aard: when switich the checkbox to "yes, send crash reports", ,have the user acceppt that this might send bits of everything...20:40
AJAX555Aard: yeah, but it still would be nice to be able choose that ^^20:40
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phlixi_yesterday i asked if it is possible that it is not possible to cennect twice via ssh to the jolla..20:41
Aardphlixi_: that's what people with common sense think. :p20:41
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phlixi_...and was asked if i could to something like ssh -v20:42
phlixi_today i have cygwin, and nothing happens after that: debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received20:42
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phlixi_thats the full debug output: http://pastebin.com/VqUuUgEf20:45
phlixi_[2014-05-30 22:31:53] <keithzg_> equivalient to ssh -v?  <<- see line above ;-)20:48
Nicd-how about -vvv? :D20:48
phlixi_Nicd-: shouuld i paste that into a query? :D20:50
Nicd-not to me at least :P20:50
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Nicd-but -vv and -vvv do give out more information20:51
phlixi_yes, already checked that, and it was so much, that i thought you might want to have it via query :D20:51
phlixi_besides there is no difference between vv and vvv (at least for this case)20:52
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phlixi_there you go: http://pastebin.com/A7da2LCr20:53
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AL13Nok, so20:56
AL13Ni found out that util-linux mount can't pass fsc to mount points, so i tried to write a small mount program: https://gist.github.com/80f94a17cc2fb1f19edf20:56
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AL13Nbut i get https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0f23ad696fce4b37b08320:58
AL13Nfor ARM, do i need special compiler flags?20:58
AL13Ni just did gcc -Wall -O2 kmount.c -o kmount20:58
AL13Ntbr: thp: Sage_: coderus: faenil: Aard: ^^ you guys know about ARM compiler flags? or page faults or whatnot?21:00
AL13Nanyone?21:01
AL13Nhmm, i must be doing something wrong, because i just tested on x86_64 and i have a segfault21:03
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kimmolitbr: it complains something in systemctl status, but nothing important... now it starts at boot; http://pastebin.com/0zHwCNL321:07
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faidenAnyone got any good sailfishos/jolla site that talks about tweaks tricks apps etc ? =D21:18
phlixi_faiden: https://together.jolla.com21:19
faidenlooks promising ty =d21:19
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AL13Nok, nvm, i modprobed the wrong nfs module22:20
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AL13Nanyway, now that i get fsc working, it's doing something, but gonna need stats and indexes and histogram and stuff to tune it... :-S22:21
AL13Nsad part, i don't recollect who built me the fscache modules22:21
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