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| AL13N_work | coderus: that would be fine for me... but is it that simple to make? | 07:20 |
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| Nicd- | jolla in service, I'm stuck with a cheap android | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | Nicd-: which one, ooi? | 07:20 |
| Nicd- | galaxy gio | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 07:20 |
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| AL13N_work | i'll be stuck without a phone, when my phone goes into service | 07:21 |
| Nicd- | installed a reddit client and google+, now the memory is full | 07:21 |
| Nicd- | I can't even | 07:21 |
| coderus | AL13N_work: very simple. folderlistmodel is here | 07:21 |
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| AL13N_work | coderus: ah, like that | 07:21 |
| coderus | just make suitable delegate for your project | 07:21 |
| AL13N_work | Nicd-: my phone keeps giving errors that updates fail due not enough memory (even though i don't do any updates at all) | 07:22 |
| AL13N_work | which means the automatic uncontrollable google services app is trying to update | 07:22 |
| AL13N_work | Nicd-: workphone | 07:22 |
| SK_work | Nicd-: you can't even finish your sentence :D | 07:22 |
| AL13N_work | :-) | 07:22 |
| Nicd- | SK_work: exactly! | 07:22 |
| Nicd- | SK_work: I ran out of memory | 07:22 |
| SK_work | :D | 07:23 |
| Nicd- | I'd love to put Sailfish on this though, boot it off an SD card | 07:23 |
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| faenil | veskuh, ping | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | (may take a while, people are at lunch..) | 09:23 |
| faenil | yeah, just realized | 09:23 |
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| veskuh | faenil, pong | 09:51 |
| faenil | veskuh, got a few minutes to try reproduce a bug on sf browser? | 09:51 |
| faenil | actually, 1min | 09:51 |
| veskuh | faenil, sure | 09:51 |
| faenil | www.trenitalia.com | 09:51 |
| faenil | go there, and try pinch-to-zoom | 09:52 |
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| veskuh | faenil, yep, broken. I'll file. Thanks. | 09:52 |
| faenil | veskuh, cool, thanks | 09:53 |
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| faenil | it's the national italian train stuff, so quite a big annoyance :D | 09:53 |
| w00t | choo choo | 09:53 |
| faenil | ahah | 09:53 |
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| * ggabriel remembers the last time he checked trenitalia.... | 09:53 | |
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| chem|st | faenil: are you complaining about being unable to zoom? | 09:54 |
| faenil | chem|st, yep | 09:54 |
| chem|st | faenil: that is on alot of websites | 09:55 |
| faenil | chem|st, well, if you fix one, you may fix all of them :) so let's report unfunctioning websites and provide veskuh ways to enjoy the day! :D | 09:55 |
| chem|st | in landscape you cannot even see 40% of the site... | 09:56 |
| ggabriel | fwiw, sometimes the inability to zoom is desired | 09:56 |
| chem|st | at least that is what I had on another... | 09:56 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: yeah I thought that is the website as you cannot zoom it on android devices too | 09:56 |
| ggabriel | admittedly, mobile website design isn't mature enough (because evreybody has a stupid "app") | 09:58 |
| faenil | ggabriel, inability to zoom should only happen on mobile websites | 09:58 |
| ggabriel | i haven't checked trenitalia on the jolla tbh | 09:59 |
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| faenil | veskuh, fyi, zooming works both on Webcat and Firefox for Android (both on Jolla) | 10:00 |
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| veskuh | faenil, yep, works also on chrome so definitely in our gecko adaptaion | 10:10 |
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| faenil | veskuh, does chrome work on jolla now? | 10:12 |
| flanag | faenil: I think you just need the Google services | 10:13 |
| veskuh | faenil, I have one real android device for testing | 10:13 |
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| faenil | flanag, I have gapps instaleld | 10:20 |
| flanag | faenil, oh | 10:20 |
| flanag | I don't know what's wrong then | 10:20 |
| faenil | but chrome never worked on jolla, it starts but doesn't load pages, there must be something else missing | 10:21 |
| flanag | have you tried the new opera btw? it uses blink (chrome's engine), so it's very close if you can't get chrome working | 10:21 |
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| faenil | no haven't yet, I'll try it now thanks | 10:21 |
| faenil | nice, I think it's the smoothest I've tried on sailfish :) | 10:24 |
| flanag | maybe I should try it too, I haven't yet :) | 10:24 |
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| stephg | because I'm an idiot is the meeting in 3 minutes or 63 minutes? | 13:57 |
| SK_work | 15:00 UTC | 13:57 |
| SK_work | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=current+utc+time | 13:58 |
| SK_work | stephg: ^ | 13:58 |
| stephg | thx SK_work | 13:58 |
| Elleo | SK_work: I'd be careful, that gives the wrong answer in its result field | 13:58 |
| Elleo | it's showing BST there | 13:59 |
| Elleo | instead of UTC | 13:59 |
| Elleo | BST is UTC+1 | 13:59 |
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| Elleo | ah actually, if you look at its interpretation of that query it's just doing it as "current time" | 13:59 |
| SK_work | Elleo: it's not wrong, it shouldn't | 13:59 |
| SK_work | it shows your time and utc time as 2 clocks | 13:59 |
| SK_work | and do a conversion | 13:59 |
| Elleo | so it'll just show the local for whoever views it | 14:00 |
| ggabriel | SK_work: re your comment yesterday (xmpp server side history), I think it's a cool feature for corporate uses of xmpp | 14:00 |
| SK_work | ggabriel: corporate use lync | 14:00 |
| SK_work | :P | 14:00 |
| ggabriel | nah | 14:00 |
| ggabriel | you'd be surprised | 14:00 |
| ggabriel | i work for a fairly large software company and they use xmpp | 14:00 |
| SK_work | ggabriel: true corporate use lync :D | 14:00 |
| SK_work | the others use IRC :D | 14:00 |
| SK_work | (troll inside :)) | 14:01 |
| ggabriel | and i used to work for a very small consultancy and they used xmpp _and_ irc | 14:01 |
| ggabriel | and they saved the history coz you could scope it per project | 14:01 |
| ggabriel | and have a nice history of requirements, customer problems, risks and so on | 14:01 |
| ggabriel | ofc the conversations there weren't like the ones you'd have with your mates | 14:01 |
| ggabriel | but it's nice that xmpp supports all that | 14:01 |
| SK_work | ggabriel: agreed :) | 14:01 |
| SK_work | +1 | 14:01 |
| ggabriel | also | 14:02 |
| ggabriel | you could give external customers access to IM/IRC | 14:02 |
| ggabriel | which was very cool | 14:02 |
| ggabriel | when the engagement is over, they can't talk to you any more :) | 14:02 |
| SK_work | too bad :( | 14:02 |
| SK_work | :D | 14:02 |
| ggabriel | what a shame, give us more money :P | 14:02 |
| ggabriel | in the meantime, my android phone chose to reboot | 14:04 |
| ggabriel | and i can't even do the paper trick because the user can't replace the battery | 14:04 |
| SK_work | ggabriel: you are fud-ing :D | 14:04 |
| SK_work | only Jolla phone rebotos | 14:04 |
| ggabriel | sorry | 14:04 |
| SK_work | (troll inside) | 14:04 |
| SK_work | :D | 14:04 |
| SK_work | (sorry) | 14:04 |
| ggabriel | it's nice to point out the other side of the coin sometimes ;) | 14:04 |
| SK_work | :) | 14:05 |
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| lbt | PSA: community meeting in #mer-meeting | 15:01 |
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| Sage_ | javispedro: just continuing here :) | 16:25 |
| Sage_ | javispedro: each profile before it can be merged to final product in updates or so officially needs to be certified. https://www.bluetooth.org/en-us/test-qualification/product-development-overview/qualify-your-product | 16:28 |
| javispedro | Well, so far I think most of existing profile support comes from | 16:29 |
| javispedro | either bluez itself, which I hope would be "easy" to certify, | 16:29 |
| Sage_ | you wish :) | 16:29 |
| javispedro | ofono (which does have support for bluez5 already) | 16:29 |
| * Sage_ smiles | 16:29 | |
| Sage_ | sry :) | 16:29 |
| javispedro | and a tangled mess of hastily interconnected programs for A2DP/HFP? | 16:30 |
| Sage_ | I think jolla was the first one to certify ofono+bluez in general :) | 16:30 |
| javispedro | probably true. | 16:30 |
| javispedro | well, certainly true. | 16:30 |
| javispedro | I don't know of any other platform using ofono tbh. | 16:31 |
| javispedro | (does Intel do something?) | 16:31 |
| Sage_ | also bluez 5 has not been certified by other than one entity (tizen iirc) and even that is done with very very small amount of profiles | 16:32 |
| javispedro | In any case I don't know how much "influence" jolla has in ofono upstream, but I'd expect that bluez4 may limit future ability to upgrade | 16:32 |
| javispedro | to put it simply, bluez5 itself supports fewer profiles bluez4 did | 16:32 |
| javispedro | offloading more of the work to other parts of the "love triangle" (e.g ofono or connman) | 16:32 |
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| javispedro | I'm not certain if bluez5 is the answer. | 16:33 |
| javispedro | which is why I didn't scream at the idea of bluedroid. | 16:33 |
| Sage_ | would be nice if that bluetooth pts test suite would be free for everyone so that community could help on testing new profiles for example | 16:34 |
| javispedro | sad truth is that there'll also be a working qtbluetooth backend for bluedroid _before_ a bluez5 one | 16:34 |
| javispedro | in fact I think the bluedroid backend's already there. | 16:34 |
| w00t | javispedro: the bluez5 backend work appears to be going quite well, fwiw | 16:35 |
| w00t | lots already merged (https://codereview.qt-project.org/#q,status:merged+project:qt/qtconnectivity,n,z), though a lot still ongoing (https://codereview.qt-project.org/#q,status:open+project:qt/qtconnectivity,n,z) | 16:36 |
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| Stskeeps | wouldn't boot 2 qt or whatever it was called, strictly speaking need something like bluedroid / android HAL usage? | 16:36 |
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| javispedro | oh | 16:37 |
| javispedro | https://codereview.qt-project.org/#patch,sidebyside,68177,6,src/bluetooth/android/devicediscoverybroadcastreceiver.cpp | 16:37 |
| javispedro | seems that qtbluetooth for android actually targets Java API | 16:38 |
| javispedro | not HAL/bluedroid | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, thought so | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | either way the problem is that you still need a daemon of sorts on top | 16:38 |
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| javispedro | this makes me lean more towards bluez5 | 16:40 |
| w00t | Aard: so, followup is: qtbluetooth was first API-stable with qt 5.2, and bluez5 will keep the same API.. so I guess once we upgrade to 5.2, and have store support for OS versioned stuff, we can offer it? :) | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: bluez5 .. with bluedroid backend? | 16:41 |
| javispedro | that is crazy =) | 16:41 |
| w00t | so crazy it might just work! | 16:41 |
| Aard | w00t: if you didn't miss anything, yes | 16:41 |
| Stskeeps | we already have libhybris.. | 16:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:41 |
| Stskeeps | this is the crazy platform | 16:41 |
| Stskeeps | : | 16:41 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: well, bluez itself can implement the android Bluetooth HAL | 16:42 |
| javispedro | so that's how crazy it is =) | 16:42 |
| w00t | so we could have bluez implementing bluedroid implementing bluez? | 16:42 |
| javispedro | yes"! | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | insanity on intel platforms only.. | 16:42 |
| w00t | what was the saying.. no problem in computing can not be solved by adding another layer of indirection? | 16:42 |
| javispedro | :9 | 16:43 |
| javispedro | well | 16:43 |
| javispedro | truth is, were bluedroid to be used, bluedroid HAL API seems actually high-level enough to be directly usable, or with only qt inbetween | 16:43 |
| Aard | Stskeeps: let's just ship with a usb hostmode adapter and usb bt dongle. then we can just use normal usb bt drivers, and we save the bt wlan coexistence issues at the same time | 16:43 |
| javispedro | probably emulating bluez API on top of it would be crazier | 16:43 |
| javispedro | (kernel sockets, ugh) | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | Aard: ah, the shenzhen method.. 3g tablet.. using usb otg dongle.. | 16:44 |
| javispedro | from the producers of a "NFC other half" for a device that already has NFC... | 16:44 |
| javispedro | the Bluetooth OH! | 16:44 |
| javispedro | (--applause--) | 16:45 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: don't give marketing ideas.. | 16:45 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 16:45 |
| w00t | javispedro: one of these days, we'll produce an OH that has a phone built in! :D | 16:45 |
| ggabriel | can you share the recipe of that thing that you're drinking/eating? | 16:45 |
| javispedro | so, options.. | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | ggabriel: there's this place nearby jolla offices called 'meritahti'.. | 16:46 |
| w00t | LOL :D | 16:46 |
| javispedro | a) keep bluez4, use qtbl as 5.2, let's talk some other day of BLE | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | wasn't ble possible using crazy-ass system("gatttool") things? | 16:47 |
| javispedro | b) bluez5, backport bluetooth/* from modern kernel, use qtbl as of 5.3/5.4, pray to certification gods | 16:47 |
| Aard | it's fair to say without meritahti and amsterdam we wouldn't have shipped :p | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | and the nepalese place | 16:47 |
| ggabriel | cool, i'll check it out, it has good reviews | 16:47 |
| javispedro | c) bluedroid, use qtbl bluedroid backend (5.3/5.4/?), reuse as much work as possible frm android (dunno what can be reused) | 16:48 |
| Aard | ggabriel: steaks are great, burgers are great | 16:48 |
| javispedro | d) bluedroid, "bluez-bluedroid" translation layer, use qtbl bluez backend, reuse as much work as possible from current work | 16:48 |
| javispedro | e) invent new wireless communication standard based on meritahti | 16:48 |
| Aard | javispedro: for d) the thing is that I don't want to be stuck with bluedroid | 16:49 |
| javispedro | does this cover all options? | 16:50 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: certainly ble is possible in bluez4, I am not sure of what are the limitations if any | 16:51 |
| javispedro | fwiw, <self-propaganda>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oD_lqNHes8 this stylus uses BLE</self-propaganda> | 16:51 |
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| javispedro | if the decision is made to get stuck with bluez4, implementing whatever API Qt decides for BLE on top of bluez4 is an option | 16:52 |
| javispedro | but since Qt5.2 has no BLE API yet I have no idea | 16:52 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: hah :D | 16:52 |
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| javispedro | so the question is | 16:53 |
| Stskeeps | well, strictly speaking the problem should rather be if qtbluetooth can switch backends modularly | 16:53 |
| Stskeeps | and apps keep working | 16:53 |
| javispedro | what is Mer going to do? what is Jolla going to do? | 16:53 |
| faenil | nepalese place! that was good :) | 16:53 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: pretty sure it can, I will check that part of things tomorrow | 16:54 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: a bullshit mer response is 'what makes technical sense and helps spread to many devices'.. it's not really fun to have something you can't run | 16:54 |
| Stskeeps | on any hardware besides a intel pc | 16:54 |
| javispedro | I can't see how Bluez5 would break hw compatibility, but I can see how it would break support for every profile on earth. | 16:55 |
| javispedro | well, apart from the überoutdated kernel | 16:55 |
| Aard | Stskeeps: we should do something with j2ee services and xml apis between bluetooth stack and qtbluetooth, that's portable. | 16:55 |
| Stskeeps | let's boot up dalvik to serve bluetooth requets.. | 16:55 |
| Stskeeps | +s | 16:55 |
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| javispedro | yeah, and then we can use the qtbluetooth java/android backend | 16:56 |
| javispedro | you laugh now, but in a few iterations of libhybris.. | 16:56 |
| javispedro | ;P | 16:56 |
| Aard | Stskeeps: that's a good idea, we boot app dalvik, and in there we run a j2ee-server, and the qtbluetooth connects to that via a local virtual ethernet interface | 16:56 |
| SK_work | faenil: nepalese +1 | 16:57 |
| * javispedro makes mental note to look for differences in jolla kernel and 3.4 in bluetooth/* | 16:57 | |
| Aard | uh, tampere already | 16:57 |
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| javispedro | so it's clear to me then for the near future the situation will look like | 16:58 |
| javispedro | bluez4 and qtbt 5.2 | 16:58 |
| javispedro | with qtbt 5.2 approved for harbour apps | 16:59 |
| Aard | most likely, yes | 16:59 |
| javispedro | I think it's reasonable and provides some leeway for future changes as long as Qt API is respected. | 16:59 |
| javispedro | (and solves problem 1 if you forget about BLE :) ) | 16:59 |
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| Stskeeps | bluez4 wrapper for bluedroid for bluez4 incompatible devices? | 17:01 |
| javispedro | some parts might be impossible to do | 17:03 |
| Stskeeps | any obvious problems | 17:03 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 17:03 |
| javispedro | kernel sockets | 17:03 |
| javispedro | e.g. BTPROTO_* | 17:03 |
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| javispedro | I am still pondering how important supporting that is. | 17:04 |
| javispedro | e.g. https://github.com/enthought/qt-mobility/blob/master/src/connectivity/bluetooth/qrfcommserver_bluez.cpp#L116 | 17:05 |
| javispedro | qt itself opens a listening RFCOMM socket by using listen() syscall | 17:05 |
| Stskeeps | ok, and in bluedroid it'd be: | 17:06 |
| Stskeeps | 47 bt_status_t (*listen)(btsock_type_t type, const char* service_name, const uint8_t* service_uuid, int channel, int* sock_fd, int flags); | 17:06 |
| javispedro | https://source.android.com/devices/reference/bt__sock_8h_source.html | 17:06 |
| javispedro | yep | 17:06 |
| javispedro | I am yet to see any bluedroid platform to see how broken it is | 17:07 |
| javispedro | maybe opening sockets that way works if they didn't mess too much with the kernel. | 17:07 |
| javispedro | probably NOT if the driver is userspace and propietary though. | 17:07 |
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| javispedro | Stskeeps: so unless you think of a magic way to emulate those listen() calls it may be harder than what I thought | 17:14 |
| * javispedro googles meritahti | 17:18 | |
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| javispedro | oh, it's a restaurant. | 17:18 |
| javispedro | for some reason I was thinking on that weird finnish candy | 17:18 |
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| Aard | javispedro: salmiakki? | 17:21 |
| javispedro | yep | 17:21 |
| javispedro | thanks :) | 17:21 |
| Aard | javispedro: http://www.pirkka.fi/sites/default/files/styles/max_width_800/public/products/marsu_58654_2_jpg.jpg | 17:23 |
| Aard | or http://www.rainbow.fi/typo3temp/pics/0f4d254a17.jpg | 17:24 |
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| javispedro | what wikipedia calls "salty liquorice" is what I've never tried | 17:25 |
| javispedro | "non-salty" liquorice :) is known here as regaliz | 17:26 |
| Aard | this one is sweat licorice sauce, to put over icecream, or make milkshakes, or... | 17:26 |
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| kimmoli | omnom salmiakkia | 17:54 |
| Quu | wat | 17:54 |
| Quu | marsu? lakritsi-kastike? :D | 17:54 |
| flanag | I was looking at that filename too | 17:55 |
| Aard | Quu: they make it out of the droppings from them :p | 17:56 |
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| * kimmoli wonders how they get from BT to laktriskastike | 17:57 | |
| javispedro | must be true that RF causes brain cancer ;) | 17:59 |
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| fk_lx_ | Jolla unhealthy practice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeE&t=17m38s | 18:15 |
| Morpog_PC___ | Didn't you want to leave our community? | 18:16 |
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| fk_lx_ | Morpog_PC___: I left community, but that doesn't mean automatically leaving channels and staying silent | 18:17 |
| fk_lx_ | simple as that | 18:17 |
| Morpog_PC___ | Well, I hoped so. | 18:18 |
| fk_lx_ | I not feel a part of community anymore | 18:18 |
| Morpog_PC___ | healthier for everyone and less annoying | 18:18 |
| fk_lx_ | Morpog_PC___: and I thought you are reasonable guy | 18:18 |
| fk_lx_ | but with discrimination is like with hunger, full won't understand the hungry one | 18:19 |
| fk_lx_ | anyway thanks for talking | 18:19 |
| fk_lx_ | bye :) | 18:19 |
| Morpog_PC___ | I just don't see the point to stay at a place which you don't like | 18:19 |
| Morpog_PC___ | bye | 18:19 |
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| fk_lx_ | Morpog_PC___: to monitor what is happening and if there aren't any threats etc. | 18:19 |
| fk_lx_ | now bye | 18:20 |
| Morpog_PC___ | see, so not healthy for you then | 18:20 |
| Morpog_PC___ | bye | 18:20 |
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| ln- | it also seems to go on twitter | 18:24 |
| ln- | +on | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | so, i think this might be a good time to talk about irc guidelines.. this is not an official jolla irc channel; but one for the community to talk more or less freely, but in any channel or community there needs to be a framework for dealing with misbehaviour | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | over in #mer we have https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/IRC_guidelines which is ~= old meego guidelines which is probably based on god knows what | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | and it's a bit unclear who would be complained to | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | so i'm pondering if we should start collecting volunteers to have ops in this channel | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | it's me, jope, iekku, w00t, aard .. | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | currently, which is admittedly a bit much on the jolla controlling side of things :) | 18:26 |
| * Morpog_PC___ still reads guidelines | 18:26 | |
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| javispedro | I know that you dislike this story, but it's not like there are biweekly troll attacks | 18:26 |
| javispedro | I have this feeling a shitload a useless paperwork is going to be generated for what's still a somewhat minor reason. | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | true | 18:27 |
| Morpog_PC___ | sure javispedro | 18:27 |
| suy | we should start /ignore'ing, I suppose | 18:27 |
| Morpog_PC___ | but if it happens you can point to the guidelines and so nobody can acuse you for abusing your powers | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | you might argue that all irc guidelines comes down to 'use pastie' and 'don't be a jerk' ;) | 18:28 |
| ln- | Morpog_PC___: somebody can | 18:28 |
| iekku | i would get some active community members as ops too | 18:28 |
| iekku | voted ones | 18:29 |
| Morpog_PC___ | +1 iekku | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | though we don't really have a mailing list to organize on, either | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | together.* miiight apply, but.. | 18:29 |
| Morpog_PC___ | it's unnoficial | 18:30 |
| Stskeeps | (me and iekku are founders here, fwiw) | 18:30 |
| iekku | :) | 18:30 |
| Morpog_PC___ | yeah, but with jolla hat off i guess | 18:31 |
| iekku | yes | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | i'm wearing a nice headset, no space for hat | 18:31 |
| iekku | if not stated that this is official | 18:31 |
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| iekku | which haven't ever happened | 18:31 |
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| Morpog_PC___ | maybe add mer irc guidelines to channel topic, or welcome message? | 18:32 |
| iekku | +1 | 18:32 |
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| Stskeeps | well, let's let it simmer a bit and perhaps speak about it again tomorrow | 18:35 |
| ShadowJK | aw, my scrollback doesn't go far enough | 18:35 |
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| Morpog_PC___ | there are logs ShadowJK | 18:35 |
| Morpog_PC___ | http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23jollamobile/index.html | 18:36 |
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| ShadowJK | oh wow, how many weeks back do I have to look :D | 18:41 |
| javispedro | as many as you have time for | 18:43 |
| javispedro | alternatively just 40ish minutes will do :) | 18:44 |
| iekku | :D | 18:44 |
| kimmoli | Stskeeps: what's up doc? how is my head today? | 18:44 |
| w00t | kimmoli: the sky's up :) | 18:45 |
| javispedro | on my desktop at least, my global menu bar is up. | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | kimmoli: i don't know, but i would like to sell you a http://www.choosemuse.com/ | 18:46 |
| ShadowJK | 40 minutes did not provide enlightenment :) | 18:46 |
| javispedro | outside the lcd screen, the so-called real world is too dark to be seen | 18:46 |
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| javispedro | Stskeeps: really hovered my mouse over the "buy" link for a looong time when they were up in indiegogo | 18:47 |
| javispedro | (eventually decided not to, though) | 18:47 |
| javispedro | (mostly because I won't be able to fit that band along the occulus rift) =) | 18:48 |
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| kimmoli | Stskeeps: is that better than having reconciliation sex ? | 18:49 |
| kimmoli | (as my neighbours seems to do atm) | 18:49 |
| AL13N | does anyone know what these beep tones are that you when placing a call? | 18:49 |
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| kimmoli | dialtones ? | 18:50 |
| javispedro | the emulated dtmf maybe? | 18:50 |
| AL13N | you know when you place a call, and before it's ringing there's a few beeps | 18:50 |
| AL13N | often i hear 3 beeps | 18:50 |
| Nightmare__ | nsa dialing in? | 18:51 |
| AL13N | or is it after ringing? | 18:51 |
| AL13N | hmm | 18:51 |
| javispedro | interference by solar flares? | 18:51 |
| AL13N | before ringing | 18:51 |
| AL13N | ok, so noone else has this? | 18:51 |
| Nightmare__ | never heared those beeps | 18:51 |
| kimmoli | what operator? | 18:51 |
| AL13N | so it's provider related then, | 18:51 |
| AL13N | ok | 18:51 |
| AL13N | mobile vikings | 18:51 |
| AL13N | in .be | 18:51 |
| AL13N | hmm | 18:52 |
| AL13N | i see "mnp beep" being mentioned | 18:52 |
| AL13N | The MNP beep is a feature designed to know if the number you’re trying to reach is from another network or not. | 18:53 |
| kimmoli | hmmm, this reminds me that Jolla does not recognize if called number is busy... | 18:54 |
| kimmoli | should it? | 18:54 |
| kimmoli | N9 did nice work on that, suggested redial after some time | 18:54 |
| AL13N | "Mobile Number Portability" beep | 18:54 |
| javispedro | one of the most useless wikipedia videos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DTMF_dialing.ogg =) | 18:54 |
| AL13N | kimmoli: what when people have 2 possible lines? | 18:54 |
| kimmoli | ? | 18:55 |
| ln- | do americans *really* have modern cell phones that dial with audible dtmf? (as it happens in tv series and movies) | 18:56 |
| AL13N | my jolla has audible dtmf | 18:56 |
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| AL13N | btw: i noticed there's a mobile vikings app now | 18:57 |
| AL13N | lol | 18:57 |
| kimmoli | ah, this was my fav app on N9, http://n9-apps.com/rotary-dialer | 18:57 |
| ln- | i mean, when you select a name from the phonebook and call him/her, there's no audible dialing of that number in real life. | 18:57 |
| kimmoli | maybe they need to hear that.. it does not happen if you dont hear it | 18:58 |
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| kimmoli | OT: ok, so who will buy me a pair of tights ? http://www.kaleva.fi/uutiset/oulu/saaskikesan-pelastus-sukkahousut-ja-tuuletin/632213/ | 19:00 |
| mikma | do they need to be used? | 19:00 |
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| kimmoli | i think un-used are cheaper, at least in japanese markets | 19:02 |
| Nightmare__ | price depends on who used them :D | 19:02 |
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| ShadowJK | my Jolla seems much happier with my new access point | 19:48 |
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| HtheB | does anyone know if Jolla can join adhoc networks? | 19:53 |
| HtheB | I cant find my hotspot that I've created with my N9 | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | it can't | 19:53 |
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| HtheB | why not? :( | 19:56 |
| HtheB | patent? | 19:56 |
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| ln- | adhoc networks discriminate jolla, that must be it | 19:56 |
| Stskeeps | no, just .. connman | 19:56 |
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| HtheB | limited? | 19:57 |
| HtheB | what about in the future Stskeeps ? | 19:57 |
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| Stskeeps | not likely to happen | 19:58 |
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| HtheB | :( | 19:58 |
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| Nightmare__ | imho connman has "some" space for improvements | 20:21 |
| chem|st | HtheB: does adhoc by hand work? | 20:22 |
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| walokra | iekku: in mer-meeting minutes you wrote "current ETA for stats in harbour is june". was other harbour features discussed? like comments etc. | 20:23 |
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| stephg | walokra: iirc it was payments | 20:24 |
| stephg | the logs are online, one second please caller... | 20:24 |
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| walokra | yep, I red the notes (http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-05-27-15.00.html) | 20:24 |
| HtheB | chem|st: what do you mean? | 20:25 |
| HtheB | manually entering information? | 20:25 |
| HtheB | haven't tried that out to be honest | 20:26 |
| stephg | walokra: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-05-27-15.00.log.html from 16:28 onwards | 20:27 |
| stephg | but H2 for payments she said | 20:28 |
| walokra | stephg: yep | 20:28 |
| HtheB | paid apps in store? | 20:28 |
| HtheB | about time I guess | 20:29 |
| kimmoli | there was "big" maybe there | 20:29 |
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| stephg | kimmoli: loving the picture | 20:30 |
| stephg | but it looks like someone has hit you in the face | 20:30 |
| stephg | ;) | 20:30 |
| kimmoli | me? | 20:31 |
| stephg | ja! | 20:31 |
| stephg | les twatteurs! | 20:31 |
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| kimmoli | better now? | 20:34 |
| kimmoli | :) | 20:34 |
| stephg | hehehehehe | 20:34 |
| stephg | *very* happy! | 20:34 |
| kimmoli | mean it was not selfie, this is selfie | 20:34 |
| kimmoli | paintsie :) | 20:34 |
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| * javispedro watches the "nokia car phone" scene in star trek 11 | 20:41 | |
| javispedro | totally accurate prediction | 20:42 |
| javispedro | and the film is from 2009.. | 20:42 |
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| ShadowJK | Looks kinda weird today :-) | 20:46 |
| javispedro | looks exactly like pan am in 2001, except with more lens flare and less science | 20:48 |
| ShadowJK | Pan Am is in so many movies, it was only recently that I was convinced it doesn't exist | 20:50 |
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| pdanek | http://youtu.be/Z7dLU6fk9QY | 20:51 |
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