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| ar | hm | 05:47 |
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| ar | openssl version on Jolla is 1.0.1f. when can we expect an upgrade? | 05:47 |
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| raa79 | https://together.jolla.com/question/38086/urgent-bugfix-serious-vulnerability-jolla-please-update-openssl-lib/ | 05:48 |
| saltsa_ | :D | 05:50 |
| ar | > Actually, the heartbleed bug isn't very likely to leak much of value. The attacker need quite a bit of luck with a LOT of analysis in the raw 64KiB blocks returned. | 05:50 |
| ar | the person who wrote that has no idea | 05:50 |
| ar | i mean, i have two exploits for that bug on my laptop, and i've been able to extract x509 private keys and usernames and passwords from a few sites i tried it on. | 05:52 |
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| Sidde | ar: indeed | 05:52 |
| Sidde | ar: i have extracted a lot of cookies in the scripts i've downloaded for example | 05:53 |
| ar | and a friend of mine has a working POC server extracting stuff from client memory | 05:54 |
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| Pnuu | http://xkcd.com/1353/ | 08:04 |
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| ggabriel | o/ | 09:28 |
| ggabriel | ok, i'm abroad, changed timezone, the jolla hasn't updated the time yet (since yesterday) | 09:29 |
| ggabriel | it won't do it, will it? :) | 09:29 |
| phdeswer | ggabriel: well you changed the timezone, thus overriding the timezone recieved from the network... | 09:31 |
| phdeswer | If you had left it alone it would have done the right thing. | 09:31 |
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| ottulo | yup, jolla does change the time zone automatically if you let it | 09:32 |
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| ggabriel | phdeswer: i meant i traveled to a different timeozne | 09:40 |
| ggabriel | and it didn't change it | 09:40 |
| ggabriel | i rebooted it and didn't change it still | 09:40 |
| phdeswer | ggabriel: Well check if automatic time is on. | 09:41 |
| ggabriel | if i go to the settings and toggle off/on the auto datetime setting, it changes | 09:41 |
| ggabriel | yeah, it's on | 09:41 |
| ggabriel | i think it may be an edge case | 09:41 |
| phdeswer | And even then some operators send some wrong data... | 09:41 |
| ggabriel | phdeswer: let's just say that it works in the n9 :) | 09:41 |
| phdeswer | ggabriel: which country and operator are you using now? | 09:41 |
| ggabriel | also, it works if i toggle the setting | 09:41 |
| ggabriel | phdeswer: operator three (3) | 09:41 |
| ggabriel | and i traveled: uk (local) -> denmark (roaming -> sweden (roaming) | 09:42 |
| ggabriel | no change just yet | 09:42 |
| ggabriel | i switched off auto update, switched it back on and date is fixed | 09:42 |
| phdeswer | Earlier this year traveled fi->swe->dk->de->be and back and it changed fine for me. Maybe some update messed up the switch setting? | 09:43 |
| phdeswer | But all is good if it works now :) | 09:43 |
| ggabriel | phdeswer: i'm sure this is an edge case | 09:43 |
| ggabriel | i'll try to check the journal nad open a question | 09:43 |
| ggabriel | i asked this a while ago too, and some people were successful, then again, not everybody travel to different timezones | 09:44 |
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| phdeswer | ggabriel: please do. Would be good to find if there is a bug (eventually just with the setting( | 09:44 |
| ggabriel | yup, i'm committing the journal to a log now, will check later | 09:45 |
| ggabriel | at the very least you'll have my details as to operator and countries | 09:45 |
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| ggabriel | phdeswer: btw, fi is in a different timezone than all the other countries that you mentioned? | 09:49 |
| phdeswer | Well not all timezones are different but at least fi is in a different one than se, dk, de and be | 09:50 |
| ggabriel | what do you konw. i learned something today :P | 09:51 |
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| vesurivs | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/World_Time_Zones_Map.png | 10:01 |
| vesurivs | ;) | 10:01 |
| ggabriel | irc is much faster than browsing in my defence :P | 10:02 |
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| HtheB | I have a exfat formatted micro sd card | 10:55 |
| HtheB | how can I mount this so that the Jolla will see the card? | 10:56 |
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| stephg | HtheB, exFAT isn't supported iirc | 10:57 |
| stephg | reformat as fat32/ext4/btrfs | 10:57 |
| HtheB | stephg: I've read that you can just install the 'drivers' | 10:57 |
| HtheB | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1408186&postcount=14 | 10:57 |
| HtheB | I've installed fuse-exfat and exfat-utils | 10:58 |
| HtheB | but, what next? | 10:58 |
| stephg | if the kernel has fuse support you should just be able to load the module and manually mount the fs | 10:59 |
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| HtheB | does the jolla support fuse? | 11:00 |
| HtheB | it seems like it does | 11:00 |
| HtheB | but how can I load the module and mount the card? this is where I stumble on | 11:01 |
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| Yaniel | modprobe & mount | 11:54 |
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| stephg | ^ that | 12:20 |
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| * HtheB is n00b :) | 12:30 | |
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| Yaniel | ext4 might be a good idea though as that doesn't require any setup on the jolla | 12:46 |
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| stephg | ^also that | 12:50 |
| stephg | (is what I run, but then I don't have to share the card with windows or mac) | 12:51 |
| Yaniel | I went for btrfs but that has the downside that you need to do the formatting on the jolla | 12:51 |
| Yaniel | and it most likely won't work as-is with anything else | 12:52 |
| Yaniel | (then again it serves just as a mirror of my music HDD so far so there is hardly anything to lose) | 12:52 |
| flux | as far as I know btrfs folks don't suggest running it on anything that doesn't support write barries. I wonder if sdcards do. | 12:52 |
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| HtheB | I just wanted to use my Jolla as a "micro sd card reader", as I don't have an adapter right now with me. and the microsd itself is exfat formatted... | 13:20 |
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| Nicd- | doesn't exfat need licensing? | 13:21 |
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| ballock | Nicd-: it's patented, but afaik not in EU | 13:23 |
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| goroboro | HtheB: did you work out how to do the mount? | 13:50 |
| HtheB | nop | 13:51 |
| HtheB | mount /dev/ something? | 13:51 |
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| goroboro | yeah... you need to work out what device name your sdcard has been allocated | 13:51 |
| goroboro | most likely: /dev/mmcblk1p1 | 13:52 |
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| goroboro | so then... I'm not 100% sure... since I haven't used fust-exfat... but your command would me something like: | 13:53 |
| goroboro | mount -t fuse.exfat /dev/mmcblk1p1 /mnt | 13:53 |
| goroboro | or something along those lines | 13:53 |
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| goroboro | you probably need to do a mount like that as root | 13:54 |
| goroboro | so I am presuming you have done devel-su first | 13:54 |
| goroboro | and have developer mode enabled | 13:55 |
| goroboro | you might find that you can just do it as: | 13:55 |
| goroboro | mount -t exfat /dev/mmcblk1p1 /mnt | 13:55 |
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| goroboro | of course... you would traditionally create a directory like /media/exfat and moutn it there | 13:56 |
| goroboro | then remove the directory after you umount | 13:56 |
| HtheB | let me try | 13:56 |
| HtheB | yeah | 13:56 |
| HtheB | let me create the dir | 13:56 |
| HtheB | then mont it | 13:57 |
| HtheB | mount* | 13:57 |
| goroboro | you might want to pass it the option 'allow_other' to let your nemo user access the files on it | 13:58 |
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| goroboro | so something like: mount -t exfat -o 'allow_other' /dev/mmcblk1p1 /mnt | 13:59 |
| goroboro | if you don't have root... I think you can use: fusermount... | 14:00 |
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| HtheB | devel-su should be enough right? | 14:01 |
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| goroboro | yeah... that's fine | 14:01 |
| goroboro | devel-su is as rooty as you need to be :) | 14:01 |
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| goroboro | HtheB: let me know if you run into trouble | 14:04 |
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| HtheB | mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat' | 14:08 |
| goroboro | did you try fuse.exfat ? | 14:08 |
| HtheB | (hang on boss is calling, I'll read the message when I'm back) | 14:08 |
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| pawky | what is the magic word to fetch a new dhcp address in jolla? | 14:36 |
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| raa79 | reboot | 14:44 |
| pawky | raa79: no... that cannot be the magic word... | 14:44 |
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| pawky | I am setting things up manually here, if rebooting I have nothing again... | 14:44 |
| pawky | normally you have like dhclient | 14:44 |
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| goroboro | I guess just disconnecting and reconnecting wifi would probably do it | 14:47 |
| pawky | that is not an option if you are setting upp a wlan using wpa_supplicant manually | 14:48 |
| pawky | or is it? | 14:48 |
| pawky | hmm... | 14:48 |
| pawky | ok, where do I find the good old ifcfg files? | 14:52 |
| goroboro | I would guess /etc/sysconfig/network or something like that | 14:53 |
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| pawky | thats what I thought, exept for network being a binayr file and network-scripts being empty | 14:54 |
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| goroboro | interesting... | 14:54 |
| pawky | it seems to differ quite a bit compared to debian or suse | 14:54 |
| goroboro | I did: ifconfig wlan0 down | 14:54 |
| pawky | well ifconfig works | 14:54 |
| goroboro | then I did: ifconfig wlan0 up | 14:54 |
| pawky | i just dont know where it gets the info from | 14:54 |
| pawky | its not where I expect the info to be... :-( | 14:55 |
| goroboro | then I went back to developer mode option in settings and the connection seemed to do its dhcp again | 14:55 |
| goroboro | mmmm me neither | 14:55 |
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| pawky | well normally you state in the ifcfg file if you want dhcp... but as i cannot find these files i hav no clue how to get my manual wifi connection to use dhcp :-( | 14:57 |
| pawky | it works partly when using the GUI though.. | 14:57 |
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| pawky | i am trying to connect to a Sony camera that uses WIFI | 14:59 |
| pawky | the camera also has an android ap that uses wifi... | 15:00 |
| pawky | when connecting using the GUI you get connected and all, but the android app doesn't see this connection, which is what I am trying to debug | 15:00 |
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| goroboro | pawky: does this help? http://xavinux.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/setting-static-ip-address-in-nemo-mobile.html | 15:01 |
| goroboro | I haven't looked at it... but since connmand is a service that runs on jolla... I would guess that it is responsible for all of this | 15:02 |
| pawky | goroboro: aha, this gives me an idea about the structure :-) | 15:02 |
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| goroboro | tjc really needs to work out how to allocate karma to help given in this channel :P | 15:03 |
| pawky | the general question is, when can an android ap not use a wireless connection? | 15:03 |
| pawky | goroboro: :-) | 15:03 |
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| pawky | or, when will an android app not notice a wireless connection exists? | 15:03 |
| goroboro | meh... I don't actually know... for some reason... amazon kindle app always thinks that I don't have a network connection... | 15:03 |
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| pawky | goroboro: hmm... sounds interesting... | 15:04 |
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| Stskeeps | CoderCandy: sorry, about to leave my 'office' | 15:04 |
| goroboro | the whole android thing really annoys me... its the biggest motivation I have to actually code Sailfish apps :D | 15:04 |
| pawky | goroboro: you should code an Sony app :-) | 15:05 |
| CoderCandy | oh, Stskeeps, I was just wondering if I'm back on care script yet. | 15:05 |
| goroboro | lol :D | 15:05 |
| pawky | quite simple, it has an open API, using JSON :-D | 15:05 |
| CoderCandy | I don't have the energy to do out of script debugging atm. | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | CoderCandy: sec.. | 15:06 |
| pawky | i believe my perl skills will not get me that far when wanting to write jolla native apps :-( | 15:06 |
| goroboro | mmmm I don't use sony for anything... if you give me a spec etc I can maybe help | 15:06 |
| goroboro | mmmm you can probably get further than you think | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | CoderCandy: you're back on care script now, sorry for my lag | 15:06 |
| CoderCandy | No prob, have a nice trip home :p | 15:07 |
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| goroboro | pawky: I was all python etc before... but I'm finding straight javascript and qml not that difficult | 15:07 |
| pawky | goroboro: https://developer.sony.com/develop/cameras/ | 15:07 |
| goroboro | wanna buy me a camera for testing? :P | 15:08 |
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| pawky | goroboro: I believe an ap for the QX10 (the one I am playing with) would be very cool, and if creating a jolla backplane having the bayonette fitting it would be an exellent alternative to their Experia :-) | 15:08 |
| pawky | goroboro: well.. they are only €120 | 15:08 |
| * goroboro sends pawky a delivery address :D | 15:09 | |
| pawky | goroboro: so if thats what it takes to sponsor a great app, well... why not | 15:09 |
| pawky | as its an API for all their remote connectable cameras and such, i think writing such an ap could be profitable | 15:10 |
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| goroboro | indeed... if the damn jolla store would allow you to charge for your apps :P | 15:11 |
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| pawky | goroboro: not yet, but later on... | 15:11 |
| goroboro | pawky: to get an idea of how easy it is to build an app against a JSON-based web service API... see my TVHeadend Client: https://github.com/goroboro/TVHeadFish | 15:13 |
| goroboro | everything you really need to know is in the qml folder | 15:13 |
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| goroboro | the entire thing is written in qml with a bunch of javascript functions to do the HTTP calls and to parse the JSON into a qml model | 15:14 |
| pawky | goroboro: I know its easy, do you think I would ever give you a hard task to accomplish? :-D | 15:14 |
| goroboro | heh | 15:14 |
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| goroboro | pawky: so at the moment you're trying to get an android app to work so that you can connect to your camera, right? | 15:15 |
| pawky | goroboro: it would still take me some time to get into it all ... | 15:15 |
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| pawky | goroboro: yes, :-) | 15:15 |
| goroboro | link to app? | 15:15 |
| pawky | goroboro: but I believe it will be much more cooler to write a native one later on :-) | 15:15 |
| pawky | goroboro: link to app? WIFI | 15:16 |
| pawky | and i have the link up | 15:16 |
| pawky | with ip and all.. | 15:16 |
| goroboro | no... can you give me a link to the app that you have installed, so I can check out how complicated it is | 15:16 |
| pawky | ohh.. | 15:16 |
| pawky | goroboro: its Sonys original app | 15:16 |
| pawky | no source code :-( | 15:16 |
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| pawky | its the source code you wanted, right? | 15:17 |
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| pawky | its called playmemories | 15:17 |
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| pawky | but you cannot see much in the app if you do not have it connected... | 15:17 |
| goroboro | heh | 15:18 |
| goroboro | okay.... let me check out what you can do with it | 15:18 |
| pawky | goroboro: I can tell you what you can do with it :-) | 15:18 |
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| goroboro | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co-U8SOvq9A | 15:19 |
| goroboro | mmmm okay | 15:19 |
| pawky | you can choose between film/video mode, you will se a low res picture to which you can point to focus, it can also use the soom | 15:19 |
| pawky | zoom... | 15:19 |
| pawky | and take pictures of course.. | 15:19 |
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| goroboro | some of that stuff might be a bit of a bugger with the current gstreamer and the multimedia library | 15:20 |
| pawky | the unit is really cool with optical picture stabilizer and a 10x zoom. Much cooler than the GoPro | 15:20 |
| pawky | goroboro: well... their Sony app works ok... :-) | 15:20 |
| pawky | cannot believe they have put to much effort into building that one... | 15:20 |
| goroboro | yeah... I'd need to take a deeper look at their api to see what they have on offer | 15:21 |
| goroboro | and of course... if I was going to build something I would need a camera to test against | 15:22 |
| goroboro | and a few months to find the time to play :D | 15:22 |
| pawky | goroboro: yeah, that is usually the issue... the time... | 15:22 |
| pawky | thats why I am just as a first attempt trying to get their app to run... before digging deeper into it all | 15:23 |
| goroboro | so I guess right now, it would be better to work out how to get connectivity to work inside of the android emulation | 15:23 |
| pawky | right :-) | 15:23 |
| pawky | any ideas how to debug it in the jolla? | 15:23 |
| goroboro | nah... I'm not going to be much help with that stuff... the alien-dalvik stuff is beyond me | 15:24 |
| goroboro | but I will be more than happy to help you code the first sony camera app for sailfish when you're ready | 15:24 |
| pawky | The connection is a just a standard AP connection to the unit that gives you a DHCP IP | 15:24 |
| pawky | goroboro: I will hold you to that :-) | 15:25 |
| goroboro | so does the jolla get the IP at sailfish level? | 15:25 |
| pawky | goroboro: I see no problems sponsoring a QX10 when you have the time to program an app.. | 15:26 |
| pawky | pawky: yes :-) | 15:26 |
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| goroboro | okay... so problem is then discovery of the camera? | 15:26 |
| pawky | this is why i do not understand why this app in particular cannot see the unit | 15:26 |
| pawky | yes | 15:26 |
| goroboro | that uses ssdp.... | 15:26 |
| pawky | duh... | 15:26 |
| pawky | oh.. well.. yeah, it might | 15:27 |
| goroboro | I wonder if there is some kind of firewalling that prevents certain connections from the android layer | 15:27 |
| pawky | it looks like it.. but there is nothing in iptables... so where is that "#¤! firewall? :-) | 15:27 |
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| pawky | aha, tcpdump might be my friend :-) | 15:28 |
| pawky | yeah, i can see ssdp UDP requests | 15:29 |
| goroboro | oh wow... | 15:29 |
| pawky | on 239.255.255.250 | 15:29 |
| pawky | multicast? | 15:29 |
| goroboro | so those are coming from alien-dalvik... maybe it is not able to get the response | 15:29 |
| goroboro | yeah... would be multicast | 15:29 |
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| pawky | so.. actually, the qX10 seems to send multisync ssdp messages | 15:30 |
| pawky | which obviously the app doesnt see... | 15:30 |
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| pawky | maybe alien dalvik has problems with UDP and multisync? | 15:30 |
| pawky | I wonder how one might test that scenario | 15:31 |
| goroboro | mmmm this is where things get tricky | 15:33 |
| goroboro | I don't know how to really get inside alien-dalvik and do anything | 15:33 |
| goroboro | this was the point at which I said alien-dalvik is beyond me | 15:34 |
| pawky | goroboro: that makes us two :-( | 15:34 |
| pawky | it doesn't make me wanting to give up though :-) | 15:34 |
| pawky | why isnt telnet in jolla as standard? | 15:35 |
| pawky | or netcat | 15:35 |
| goroboro | :) | 15:35 |
| goroboro | I think old Nieldk has netcat in his repo... but there be dragons! | 15:35 |
| goroboro | at least that's how the rumour goes | 15:35 |
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| pawky | ok... will wait a bit with that one then ;-) | 15:36 |
| pawky | so... where is one to find info on how networking works between sailfish and the alien dalvik? | 15:37 |
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| goroboro | pawky: try stop and start the aliendalvik.service and then see if the app works | 15:44 |
| pawky | stephg which head? | 15:44 |
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| pawky | goroboro: duh? start stop aliendalvik? | 15:44 |
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| stephg | mine (though about the state of lots of other colleagues heads...) | 15:44 |
| pawky | i have restarted the phone several times | 15:44 |
| pawky | stephg: ok, as long as its your head head.. not your .... head | 15:45 |
| pawky | :-D | 15:45 |
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| goroboro | yeah... apparently there are some weird networking issues that can arise in aliendalvik even after reboot | 15:45 |
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| goroboro | just restarting the aliendalvik service seems to fix things for some ppl | 15:45 |
| pawky | goroboro: ok... so i find this under /etc/init.d/ ? | 15:46 |
| goroboro | systemctl stop aliendalvik.service | 15:46 |
| goroboro | systemctl start aliendalvik.service | 15:46 |
| pawky | it seems we init.d people will go extinct... | 15:47 |
| pawky | ok.. lets try it | 15:47 |
| goroboro | mmm I'm with you... old school sysV | 15:47 |
| pawky | nope... no better | 15:47 |
| pawky | still just seeing lots of UDP ssdp | 15:48 |
| pawky | but the app hasnt noticed them | 15:48 |
| pawky | i believe alien dalvik filters multicast ip's... | 15:48 |
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| goroboro | I am guessing that you are correct | 15:48 |
| * pawky returns to google... | 15:48 | |
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| goroboro | or else doesn't handle udp very well or something | 15:49 |
| goroboro | well that aliendalvik restart sorted my problem with the kindle app :D | 15:49 |
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| pawky | goroboro: :-) | 15:50 |
| pawky | where does one configure the alien dalvik? | 15:53 |
| pawky | is there NO information upon myriads alien dalvik and how it all works together with sailfish??? | 15:54 |
| stephg | pawky, define 'configure' | 15:55 |
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| pawky | stephg: well am i not right the alien dalvik is just another JVM? | 15:56 |
| pawky | and JVMs usually are configurable.. | 15:56 |
| stephg | well it's more than just the vm | 15:56 |
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| pawky | stephg: in what way?... | 15:57 |
| pawky | stephg: its a ting that runs java code... | 15:57 |
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| goroboro | brb | 16:00 |
| pawky | :-) | 16:00 |
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| stephg | pawky, well yeah but it's a bit more nuanced than that | 16:09 |
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| pawky | stephg: yes, the alien dalvik doesn't seem to like all kinds of IP traffic :-( | 17:10 |
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| mornfall | is it me, or connman is pretty much completely busted since the last update? (I have some custom VPN hacks, so it might be that... but the only way I can get a connection these days is reboot daily or connect manually all the time...) | 17:32 |
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| Stskeeps | it's not the happiest in 1.0.4 no | 17:34 |
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| Morpog_PC | hmmm, 1.0.5.13 leak :D http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1420554&postcount=694 | 17:39 |
| flanag | ooh | 17:40 |
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| Morpog_PC | why would anyone wnat to disable swipe closing? :D | 17:41 |
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| flanag | steph: how is your head still intact? | 17:43 |
| flanag | damn *stephg | 17:43 |
| stephg | hehe | 17:43 |
| stephg | I don't know | 17:43 |
| stephg | my sanity is not attached however | 17:44 |
| Aard | pawky: there's nothing for you to configure | 17:49 |
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| matoking | Dang | 18:41 |
| matoking | Just realized my phone had been offline the entire day | 18:41 |
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| matoking | Is it a known issue that the phone sometimes loses the connection and asks for a PIN? | 18:43 |
| flanag | yes | 18:43 |
| flanag | your sim card holder is probably loose | 18:43 |
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| Stskeeps | matoking: contact care | 18:44 |
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| matoking | That's what I'm doing | 18:58 |
| matoking | I suppose it's not that bad if I get the few defective pixels I have fixed at the same time | 18:58 |
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| cvp | any infomations about Sailfish OS 1.0.5.13 (Paarlampi) ?? | 19:33 |
| Waitee | didnt even know the name for the update yet | 19:33 |
| Aard | cvp: it's not a public release | 19:33 |
| cvp | yes i know its not public :p | 19:34 |
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| Aard | then why do you ask? :p | 19:34 |
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| cvp | i ask what feature is includeit in this update exept MMS :D | 19:35 |
| Aard | see apr14 tag on together, complete changelog will come with release | 19:35 |
| cvp | i want to know... | 19:35 |
| messerting | Any info on heartbleed and Jolla? I've got "/usr/share/doc/openssl-libs-1.0.1f" installed on mine, I guess that means it is affectd, right? | 19:36 |
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| Aard | messerting: it's part of the upcoming release | 19:37 |
| messerting | Aard: thanks, good :) | 19:37 |
| cvp | ok... only ... this is meaning 14. april will jolla release changelog incl. release ? | 19:37 |
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| cvp | ignore "only" :p | 19:37 |
| w00t | the year is 2014 | 19:37 |
| Aard | cvp: april 2014 | 19:37 |
| cvp | lol | 19:38 |
| Aard | funny how many assume we release on the 14th :) | 19:38 |
| cvp | argh | 19:38 |
| cvp | :D | 19:38 |
| cvp | you see what i wish to see | 19:38 |
| messerting | Aard: what services are currently running (by default/when devel mode is enabled) and vulnerable for heartbleed? Is ssh affected? | 19:38 |
| Aard | messerting: no, ssh is not affected | 19:39 |
| rigo | debian and opensuse were fixed yesterday | 19:39 |
| messerting | Aard: so unless I run an https server on the phone, I'm okay?... | 19:39 |
| Aard | yes | 19:39 |
| messerting | ok, thanks | 19:39 |
| Aard | so for us it's less critical than for other distributions, but it's still important to fix soon | 19:40 |
| rigo | unless the browser does not check for revocation by default as chrome does :) | 19:40 |
| Aard | well, the whole ca system as we have now is utterly broken | 19:40 |
| rigo | +1 | 19:40 |
| Aard | does not really matter if you check it or not | 19:40 |
| rigo | see my contribution to the prob in https://www.w3.org/2014/strint/papers/52.pdf | 19:41 |
| rigo | we'll fix it | 19:41 |
| Aard | :) | 19:41 |
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| messerting | rigo: (I didn't read the doc, but love that you used LaTeX) | 19:42 |
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| rigo | messerting: what, haven't seen lawyers using latex? :) | 19:49 |
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| Aard | only the different kind | 19:49 |
| messerting | rigo: Well, not many! I certainly see far too much MS Word (even have to use it myself at work... :() | 19:50 |
| * Aard does not touch stuff like word | 19:50 | |
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| AJAX555 | uhm, does anyone know why I can't find my mp3 audio file from media? | 20:21 |
| Quu | *magic* | 20:22 |
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| junnuvi | AJAX555: if there is no certain id3 tags files might not be shown as expected | 20:35 |
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| AJAX555 | oh well, changed id3 tags, now it shows | 20:38 |
| AJAX555 | but still, shouldn't it show those files without id3 tags with filenames? | 20:38 |
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| junnuvi | AJAX555: yes, definetely. That's a bug :/ | 20:59 |
| AJAX555 | I hope it's a known bug | 21:01 |
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| junnuvi | I think so, at least you will found it from togethet.jolla.com | 21:02 |
| junnuvi | together.jolla.com | 21:02 |
| AJAX555 | yeah searching it now | 21:02 |
| AJAX555 | yeah, known bug | 21:03 |
| AJAX555 | or, atleast reported | 21:03 |
| junnuvi | yep | 21:04 |
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| pawky | Aard: Then how am I to be able to make alien dalvik to understand SSDP and multicast??? | 21:30 |
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| Aard | pawky: if it does not understand it you're out of luck | 21:41 |
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| pawky | Aard: but how can someone be so ... ... ... to only implement parts of the tcp/ip stack??? | 21:47 |
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| pawky | There must be some way to make android apps be able to communicate fully network wise.... | 21:48 |
| pawky | or can someone in here explain why this hasn't been done? | 21:51 |
| pawky | .. not only I seems to be lost for words.... | 21:53 |
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| pp | re heartbleed, malicious google talk stealing fb chat credentials or whatnot is what theoretically might happen | 22:03 |
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| pp | (I'd guess the browser is NSS) | 22:04 |
| pp | tho you can start stealing so early | 22:04 |
| special | XMPP connections on sailfish use gnutls | 22:07 |
| special | not affected client-side | 22:08 |
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