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| CoderCandy | Crap, jolla seems to have gone back to being suckishly unstable again :( | 01:14 |
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| CoderCandy | I've reverted the playstore-dalvik hack tho. | 01:14 |
| CoderCandy | Let's see if it makes any difference. | 01:14 |
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| Milhouse | I used to use GO Launcher, but the new version is now crashing on startup on Sailfish - anyone else seeing this? | 02:44 |
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| Quu | uh, how long is the factory reset supposed to take? | 06:17 |
| special | not long iirc | 06:17 |
| Quu | ok, then it might have crashed or something | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | factory reset will result in a power off though? | 06:17 |
| Quu | well, it didnt do anything | 06:17 |
| Quu | settings GUI froze and nothing else happened | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | hmmmm | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | so it's just stuck at it? | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | that's a first | 06:18 |
| Quu | nnooo, i can use the phone | 06:18 |
| Quu | its just, uh | 06:18 |
| Quu | settings is stuck | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, .3.8 can force a factory reset from recovery mode too | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | and .2.5 | 06:19 |
| Quu | ok, seems like settings cant do anything | 06:20 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't sound good | 06:20 |
| * Stskeeps sometimes thinks we should have a budget to go see customers and help debug in their homes.. | 06:21 | |
| Quu | letssee if recovery does stuffs then | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | if it doesn't act properly -> straight to care | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | imho | 06:22 |
| Quu | nah, i just want to fresh-install stuffs | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | yeah but if even factory reset acts up :P | 06:22 |
| Quu | fair enough | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | i have a fun debugging session ahead of me this morning.. i laid my device flat down just before sleep, tried to turn it on to see the time, no blinking LEDs, just flat out dead.. | 06:26 |
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| Stskeeps | in the morning it booted up and shut down, probably due to dead battery | 06:27 |
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| Quu | ok, win8 sees the phone in recovery mode as "galaxy nexus fastboot" and cant access it with telnet | 06:30 |
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| Quu | or i am horrible with telnet | 06:31 |
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| Quu | ok? it did factory reset in some point of all this | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | it maybe triggered the right things but it generally shouldn't have stalled setings | 06:33 |
| Quu | well, everything was usable before i tried the recovery | 06:34 |
| Quu | after not getting to recovery, i booted it up and it said "WELCOME" etc | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 06:34 |
| Quu | anyways, seems to be working | 06:35 |
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| Stskeeps | sheesh, 1% battery | 06:48 |
| Stskeeps | how'd that happen | 06:48 |
| Quu | *magic* | 07:01 |
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| Quu | best tactic: stack units in one block and waste 1h to command them all to attack | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. i meant more like that it'll for sure be a impact on my productivity | 07:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:03 |
| Quu | thats what it does | 07:03 |
| Quu | "oh, where did last 4 days go" | 07:03 |
| Stskeeps | but when they offer sid meier humble bundle, it's just not fair | 07:03 |
| stn^ | too bad I already owned IV and V from that bundle.. had to it buy anyway | 07:05 |
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| Quu | bah | 09:12 |
| Quu | cant get MitaKuuluu to register | 09:12 |
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| Quu | rraa. | 09:14 |
| Quu | y u no work | 09:14 |
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| Mnsu | Quu: I didn't either after I had to reset my phone, I tried a few times to get it to register, but no such luck | 09:21 |
| Mnsu | Quu: until now, just magically started to work, didn't have to even enter the sms code again | 09:24 |
| Quu | oh | 09:24 |
| Quu | ok | 09:24 |
| Quu | so its the *magic* again | 09:24 |
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| * FireFly scrolls through the icons provided by ambient-icons-closed | 10:44 | |
| FireFly | I wonder if 'Accounts' was separate from Settings once.. | 10:45 |
| FireFly | at least there's an icon for i | 10:45 |
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| ggabriel | FireFly: you mean like in harmattan? :) | 10:47 |
| FireFly | oh. :p | 10:48 |
| FireFly | Never used the N9 | 10:48 |
| ggabriel | yeah, it's separate there | 10:48 |
| Sail0r | wtf | 10:51 |
| Sail0r | my jolla totally broke | 10:51 |
| Sail0r | received a call | 10:51 |
| Sail0r | and froze | 10:51 |
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| Sail0r | nice .... | 10:52 |
| Sail0r | it does not boot anymore | 10:52 |
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| ggabriel | battery level? | 10:53 |
| Sail0r | 70% | 10:55 |
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| Sail0r | pulled out the battery now it boots again | 10:56 |
| chem|st | Sail0r: procedure is, remove the battery for >10minutes - if that does not help, put it in recovery mode and telnet your way in to recover the btrfs - not that it may charge your battery while in recovery mode (at least my sister's was at 98% after a while of a hassle with getting it to boot again) | 10:56 |
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| minimec | Sail0r: Hi. I had that once. It started with 'connection problems and unresponsible UI'. Battery was getting very hot. Somehow I managed to do a 'shutdown -r now' in the terminal. -> Screen went black and I waited for the reboot, but nothing happened. So I removed the battery an dwaited a 'short minute'. | 10:56 |
| Sail0r | was very strange call was received and ringing, lipstick crashed and restarted, call still ringing and showing on lock screen, but could not open the phone app as everything was empty on the phone app only a big blinking dot. | 10:56 |
| Sail0r | after trying to open phone it crashed | 10:57 |
| ggabriel | sounds like a bad crash | 10:57 |
| Sail0r | I should really turn on persistent logging ^^ | 10:58 |
| chem|st | minimec: how about a "reboot" much shorter^^ | 10:58 |
| minimec | chem|st: Old habits... ;) | 10:58 |
| chem|st | Sail0r: we have a few days left on this version... I hope the next one wont need that | 10:58 |
| chem|st | minimec: yeah had that too! | 10:59 |
| chem|st | minimec: until I found a system without shutdown... | 10:59 |
| Sail0r | I hope that too. But it was only the second crash since I have a Jolla. So it's much better then my Android phone was ^^ it crashed twice a day ^^ | 10:59 |
| ggabriel | i'm awaiting for the next update | 10:59 |
| ggabriel | or waiting rather | 10:59 |
| chem|st | Sail0r: hehe yes ven though I had lots of reboots lately the android I have still hits a highscore to beat for rebooting without useraction | 11:00 |
| Sail0r | xD | 11:00 |
| Sail0r | I am so happy with my Jolla in terms of stability :). Only a few problems so far. | 11:01 |
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| Sail0r | chem|st: is the connection retry bug fixed in the new version? | 11:04 |
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| chem|st | Sail0r: I hope so | 11:23 |
| chem|st | they called it stable release - so if that is still there I will throw a bugreport-carpet-bomb onto tjc | 11:24 |
| Sail0r | loool | 11:25 |
| Sail0r | Yeah, there are many things to do to call it stable release for endusers. | 11:25 |
| Sail0r | I am happy at the moment because I bought it as a beta and did know what could happen. | 11:25 |
| Sail0r | But if you buy it as stable and such things happen I wouldn't so be happy | 11:26 |
| Sail0r | + word order ... | 11:26 |
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| chem|st | Sail0r: exactly | 11:29 |
| chem|st | Sail0r: have you ever heard of the safari-carpet-bomb (that is where I stole the phrase) | 11:30 |
| Sail0r | chem|st: nope | 11:30 |
| chem|st | Sail0r: imagine a windows machine and the typical user with using iexplorer | 11:30 |
| Sail0r | chem|st: my mom ;) | 11:31 |
| chem|st | he is gonna try safari the apple browser | 11:31 |
| chem|st | or she in your case | 11:31 |
| chem|st | safari downloaded DLLs without user knowledge to the desktop folder of your mom hidden files of course | 11:32 |
| chem|st | now iexplorer is designed to first look for its DLLs on the desktop instead of system folder | 11:32 |
| chem|st | and BOOOM | 11:32 |
| Sail0r | omg | 11:32 |
| chem|st | that was called safari carpet bomb | 11:33 |
| Sail0r | failed by design ^^ | 11:33 |
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| chem|st | yeah both safari downloading and iexplorer looking for critical runtime libraries on the desktop first... | 11:33 |
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| chem|st | it never happened to the geeks on a spree as they do not use iexplorer so it was not known until it hit the masses | 11:34 |
| chem|st | M4rtinK: good morning sir | 11:35 |
| Yaniel | ahaha | 11:35 |
| Yaniel | wait WHAT | 11:35 |
| Yaniel | speaking of browsers | 11:35 |
| Yaniel | specifically the jolla default browser | 11:35 |
| Stskeeps | O_o | 11:35 |
| Yaniel | did mozilla reintroduce some embedding API? | 11:36 |
| Yaniel | or is jolla pulling in half of XUL | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | http://blog.idempotent.info/posts/whats-behind-sailfish-browser.html | 11:36 |
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| Yaniel | ah | 11:38 |
| Yaniel | so yes there is a new API | 11:38 |
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| Morpog_PC | Yaniel, that API is around for a good while now | 11:47 |
| Morpog_PC | remember QMLMozbrowser or MeeFox on N9 | 11:47 |
| Yaniel | I don't | 11:50 |
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| AJAX555 | looks like rajaniemi.freenode.net is offline or something | 12:59 |
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| XenoPL | H,i did anyone succesfully connected Jolla to Linux box via USB cable? I tried both on KDE and Gnome (Fedora 20 and 19) and it fails to retrieve list of files. | 13:11 |
| ggabriel | i have with gentoo, using mtp | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | XenoPL: try to see how it works with libmtp packages | 13:12 |
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| Sail0r | runs like a charm on my fedora 20 @ XenoPL | 13:13 |
| XenoPL | Sailor: which DE? | 13:13 |
| Sail0r | Gnome | 13:13 |
| Stskeeps | XenoPL: usb2.0 or usb3.0 port | 13:13 |
| XenoPL | I tried with Gnome under F19 live (my main istall runs KDE) | 13:13 |
| XenoPL | tried trough USB2.0 hub | 13:14 |
| Stskeeps | try direct on the pc for good measure | 13:14 |
| Sail0r | Just plugged it in notification Appears with new device and open folder | 13:14 |
| Sail0r | can copy delete and everything | 13:14 |
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| XenoPL | (ong chain of USB3.0 port ,_ USB2.0 hub <- usb 2.0) hub | 13:14 |
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| Yaniel | assuming the non-developer mode? | 13:15 |
| XenoPL | yep, just regular desktop-sync mode | 13:15 |
| Sail0r | pc mode | 13:15 |
| XenoPL | yep | 13:15 |
| Stskeeps | XenoPL: where from in poland, out of curiousity? | 13:15 |
| XenoPL | Łódź | 13:15 |
| Stskeeps | ah, warsaw here | 13:16 |
| XenoPL | :) | 13:16 |
| Sail0r | what does journalctl on your pc say when you connect the phone? | 13:17 |
| Sail0r | mine says this: http://nopaste.penguinfriends.org/view/109342/ | 13:17 |
| Sail0r | (dumped that a few days ago for someone else ;)) | 13:18 |
| XenoPL | it seems reboot did some magic (maybe there was unreloaded update?) now it offers 3 options and it seems it works | 13:18 |
| Sail0r | reboot of phone or fedora? | 13:19 |
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| Yaniel | I don't think fedora offers you any options | 13:19 |
| FireFly | Hmm | 13:19 |
| FireFly | The package metadata for apkd says it's licensed under GPL | 13:20 |
| XenoPL | Desktop (Fedora) | 13:20 |
| FireFly | Yet the associated URL leads to a private bitbucket repo :< | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | FireFly: our package metadata is lousy atm | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | so don't always assume license is correct | 13:20 |
| FireFly | All right | 13:20 |
| FireFly | I found plenty of "TBD"-licensed packages :p | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 13:20 |
| Yaniel | :D | 13:20 |
| Yaniel | 3-clause TBD | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | which to be honest is a better indication that we're still thinking about it | 13:21 |
| FireFly | It's a lot better than saying GPL when the source code isn't available, yes | 13:21 |
| FireFly | but okay, I'll treat them all as TBD/"proprietary for the time being" | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/niceview.png | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | from before sailfish browser went oss | 13:22 |
| FireFly | What does the groping on that image indicate? i.e. bluez-configs-sailfish is grouped under jolla-common-configurations | 13:23 |
| FireFly | grouping* ... | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | FireFly: source package | 13:23 |
| Pnuu | :-D | 13:23 |
| FireFly | Aha | 13:23 |
| Yaniel | the browser does not seem to be much there | 13:23 |
| XenoPL | Yaniel: Under KDE there's: "Retrieve photos with GwenView", "Open in file manager" and "Open using file manager" - last option tries to access it as camera which fails (ie shows Sailfish dir which you cannot open) | 13:24 |
| Yaniel | ah | 13:24 |
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| msvb-lab | Stskeeps: Nice seeing you at MWC, and thanks for the water. | 15:20 |
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| p2-mate_ | is there a solution for the infamous jolla reboot problem? | 15:27 |
| Stskeeps | pull battery for 10 minutes | 15:27 |
| Stskeeps | while not on usb, naturally | 15:27 |
| Stskeeps | it's not a fix, just a bandaid | 15:28 |
| p2-mate_ | and the real fix is? | 15:28 |
| Morpog_PC | next update I guess | 15:28 |
| Stskeeps | there's some things coming related to the problem | 15:29 |
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| bennypr0fane | does anyone else think the Jolla's wlan reception is really crap? | 15:34 |
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| Yaniel | not really | 15:34 |
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| Yaniel | the indicator does not seem to update properly though | 15:34 |
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| ggabriel | better than n9/iphone 4+5 in my experience | 15:34 |
| bennypr0fane | my other devices can see more than a dozen access points, Jolla sees 3 | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | bennypr0fane: bluetooth on or off | 15:35 |
| bennypr0fane | Stskeeps: off | 15:35 |
| ggabriel | reception != scanning in my experience too | 15:35 |
| bennypr0fane | and the connection to my home network is unreliable too, it breaks just by itself | 15:36 |
| bennypr0fane | not the case with other devices | 15:36 |
| ggabriel | bennypr0fane: latest update? | 15:36 |
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| bennypr0fane | ggabriel: 1.0.3.8 | 15:37 |
| p2-mate_ | bennypr0fane: seems to work reasonably well, although it lacks 5Ghz support | 15:38 |
| bennypr0fane | p2-mate_: 5GHz is 802.11ac? | 15:38 |
| bennypr0fane | so no-oen has problems with the wlan connection just dropping? | 15:39 |
| p2-mate_ | 802.11a or n, although n supports both 2.4 and 5Ghz | 15:39 |
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| ggabriel | bennypr0fane: i think there are a few cases out there, my experience was better after the latest update | 15:40 |
| bennypr0fane | ggabriel: maybe they manage an improvement in what's supposed to be rolling out today :-D | 15:41 |
| chem|st | bennypr0fane: the wlan droping can be caused by several things and are usually then not a matter of signal strength | 15:43 |
| chem|st | and yes several people had issues with dodgy wlan including myself - but, same spot different day no problem at all | 15:44 |
| chem|st | and please not that request for connection seems to show known networks first if not even only | 15:46 |
| Morpog_PC | when it starts to make trouble, I restart the device, usually helps with dropping wlan | 15:47 |
| chem|st | signal strength at home sometimes shows (indicator) nothing at first or even for a few minutes, then changes to full | 15:47 |
| bennypr0fane | chem|st: what would be some of those things? | 15:48 |
| chem|st | Morpog_PC: exactly, I guess it is connman or the driver as connman just freezes sometimes | 15:48 |
| ggabriel | what chem|st said :D altho i've been quite lucky | 15:48 |
| chem|st | bennypr0fane: the list is very long, starting with eco-mode on your router | 15:48 |
| p2-mate | Stskeeps: is there a good reason for the 10 minute wait or is it just 'it seems to work'? | 15:49 |
| chem|st | p2-mate: you have all systems without power and therefore reset | 15:50 |
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| Stskeeps | p2-mate: PMIC state from what i understood - i'm not a kernel or power management expert | 15:50 |
| chem|st | (I actually doubt that it is "without power" as you can measure it for days...) | 15:50 |
| p2-mate | yeah, so there is some supercap which keeps something alive then? | 15:51 |
| Stskeeps | possibly, well, pmic is always alive as long as there's some kind of power source | 15:51 |
| p2-mate | yes, obviously | 15:51 |
| chem|st | p2-mate: does not need to be a cap, some circuits hold power for days without a cap | 15:51 |
| p2-mate | but then just removing the battery for a a few secs should do. | 15:52 |
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| p2-mate | chem|st: you have to store the energy somewhere though... | 15:52 |
| Stskeeps | p2-mate: yeah, but longer is maybe to ensure it's not seen as just a short power off and instead invalidate any kind of cache or state it has | 15:52 |
| * kimmoli visited channel and got dejavu | 15:52 | |
| Stskeeps | there's no scientific background in the 10 minute thing | 15:52 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:52 |
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| p2-mate | Stskeeps: ah ok. I thought maybe you calculated the capacitance and derived the required decay time from that :) | 15:54 |
| Stskeeps | p2-mate: i .. have no idea :) | 15:54 |
| chem|st | p2-mate: having a potential is enough | 15:54 |
| chem|st | a guy at a radioequipment firm showed us that a devices modem can still send while the battery is removed even if it has no RTC with a battery | 15:57 |
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| p2-mate | question is how long and at what powerlevel | 16:02 |
| p2-mate | the PMIC shuts itself down if the input voltage is too low | 16:02 |
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| nille_ | What android navigation app works best? I don't want google services installed or the neeed of an facebook acount. | 16:14 |
| nille_ | I do wan't offline maps | 16:14 |
| Sail0r | does sygic work? | 16:15 |
| nille_ | I don't know i haven't tried it and where do i install it from. | 16:15 |
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| nille_ | I think sygic suffer from same thing as tomtom with positioning not working to good | 16:16 |
| M4rtinK | nille_: you might want to give the (native) modRana a try :) | 16:17 |
| cb400f | waze works for me, but it's not truly offline.. I think the maps are, but it wants network for other stuff | 16:17 |
| M4rtinK | nille_: (the Sailfish port is not yet fully featured though) | 16:17 |
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| cb400f | OsmAnd and MapFactor Navigator seem to work, but I haven't tested them properly in a car | 16:18 |
| cb400f | I also thought NavFree worked until I actually tried it in moving action ;-) | 16:18 |
| nille_ | openstreetmaps is not very good here. What maps does modrana support? | 16:19 |
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| SpeedEvil | In general, google maps is not legal to download. | 16:20 |
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| nille_ | I don't feel good about waze since it to closely integrated with social media | 16:21 |
| cb400f | also acquired by google afaik | 16:22 |
| Sail0r | Google should port their maps to sailfish ;) | 16:22 |
| pp_ | nokia x maps :D | 16:22 |
| cb400f | but beggars can't be choosers I guess | 16:22 |
| nille_ | I'm one of those that value my integrity | 16:22 |
| cb400f | pp_: ah ;-) .. if that works, that would be awesome :-) | 16:22 |
| p2-mate | pp_: does it have offline maps? | 16:23 |
| nille_ | I did like nokia drive in the N9 but that doesn't help me on my Jolla | 16:23 |
| pp_ | probably as hackable as the google ones :-) | 16:23 |
| pp_ | so they say | 16:23 |
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| p2-mate | nille_: I still use my N9 for nokia drive | 16:24 |
| nille_ | Does all android nav apps have the same bad positioning problems? | 16:25 |
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| SpeedEvil | nille_: In general. Many of them are not complying with terms and conditions. | 16:25 |
| SpeedEvil | Maps data is _EXPENSIVE_ if you want permission for users to save it on disk. | 16:26 |
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| nille_ | I have no problem paying for and application with offline maps. but i do want to try them out first to know that they are working. | 16:27 |
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| nille_ | I tried tomtom (from the darker side of internet) to see if it worked but the positioning wasn't very good and there for rather useless | 16:29 |
| SpeedEvil | Here maps is (was?) on the amazon store | 16:30 |
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| SpeedEvil | Was, I guess | 16:31 |
| nille_ | I can't find any app called here maps on amazon, but if the positioning is bad then it's useless | 16:32 |
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| nille_ | It seems all android apps thinks i'm driving of the side of the road or on an paralell street or sometimes in the other direction. | 16:35 |
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| nille_ | I wish i could buy Nokia drive as an native app. | 16:39 |
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| Tofe | nille_: driving unlike? | 16:39 |
| p2-mate | nille_: yeah, now maps is part of Nokia and not MS, they can do that | 16:40 |
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| M4rtinK | nille_: various other tiled map providers, such as MapBox, Stamen design and smaller projects | 16:49 |
| nille_ | I need navigation with good maps, OSM is not very well mapped around here. As long as it works i don't care if it's from an smaler provider | 16:51 |
| pp_ | I wonder if LD_PRELOAD hacks & nokia drive would be a total no-go :-) | 16:52 |
| M4rtinK | also there is a configuration file (~/.config/modrana/map_config.conf) where you can edit the current layer and/or add new ones | 16:52 |
| p2-mate | pp_: I've been wondering that as well :) | 16:52 |
| p2-mate | seems like it should be doable | 16:52 |
| M4rtinK | nille_: but just note is is just map display at the moment | 16:52 |
| M4rtinK | not yet routing | 16:52 |
| nille_ | i tried modrana, to many maps to choose from under maps and i couldn't get navigation to work | 16:53 |
| M4rtinK | but should be coming soon (already supported by the backend, just the GUI is missing) | 16:53 |
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| nille_ | Nokia drive might be hackable as an static package but i haven't tried | 16:53 |
| M4rtinK | nille_: yeah, that's exactly how it is currently - I'm still working on navigation GUI | 16:53 |
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| M4rtinK | nille_: let me know if you have any feedback or improvement ideas :) | 16:54 |
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| nille_ | M4rtinK i need to try it out for real first and under stand how i'm supposed to do things. | 16:56 |
| M4rtinK | ok :) | 16:56 |
| pp_ | hmn, one way to find out I suppose :-) | 16:57 |
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| nille_ | Tofe i guess it's unlike driving :D | 17:19 |
| CoderCandy | augh, I can't wait for the next update | 17:20 |
| CoderCandy | I want a stable phone again | 17:20 |
| CoderCandy | It's funny how it was stable for month before 3.8 came along | 17:20 |
| FireFly | And I want an orientation lock | 17:20 |
| FireFly | :p | 17:20 |
| CoderCandy | and now it's unstable even on 2.5 | 17:20 |
| CoderCandy | FireFly: that would be nice too | 17:21 |
| CoderCandy | months* | 17:22 |
| stephg | I want a pony! | 17:23 |
| CoderCandy | stephg: uh, like a real pony? | 17:25 |
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| Eztran | Actually, from what's been said the pony's the only bit that's not targeted for the March update. | 17:25 |
| CoderCandy | Wait, pony? What did I miss? | 17:25 |
| ggabriel | unicorn! | 17:26 |
| CoderCandy | ... I feel like this is the wrong channel... The pony talk is usually confined to the MLP channel I hang around in... | 17:26 |
| Eztran | Well, if you sit around in an MLP channel then I don't know why you're surprised that someone wants a pony :) | 17:27 |
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| CoderCandy | Well, thus the question "a real one?" | 17:28 |
| Eztran | can't updates deliver those? That's a shame. | 17:29 |
| CoderCandy | Speaking of which, a new episode came out today. | 17:29 |
| CoderCandy | Haven't gotten around to watch it yet though. | 17:29 |
| CoderCandy | ... Man pony talk in here made me realize something | 17:30 |
| CoderCandy | I want a pony TOH. | 17:30 |
| Eztran | Congrats, you managed to make that entirely relevant to the channel. | 17:31 |
| CoderCandy | Haha, yup! | 17:31 |
| * CoderCandy is a bit proud | 17:31 | |
| Eztran | but really, actually a TOH makes a lot of sense as a fandom tool. | 17:32 |
| FireFly | Indeed | 17:32 |
| CoderCandy | Yeah | 17:32 |
| FireFly | I figure that's what they're going for with the Angry Birds OH and things | 17:32 |
| Eztran | Mmm, it's not so much for players but those who like the franchise. At least, that's how I see it. | 17:33 |
| Eztran | And the additional TOH-relevant feed? Could work really well for things like that (your MLP example is actually a very good one). | 17:34 |
| CoderCandy | Yeah... Now we just need aomeone to design it! | 17:42 |
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| dwangoAC | Bah - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192025 is extremely unclear on what you should use in the United States | 18:34 |
| dwangoAC | I like xda but man can original posters be unwilling to include instructions on what to do or links to what to read first | 18:35 |
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| Morpog_PC | just found a cool water simulation app: http://thelarge.org/water-sailfish/ | 18:55 |
| stephg | Morpog_PC excellent | 18:58 |
| Venemo | Morpog_PC: nice stuff | 18:58 |
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| kimmoli | tested water yesterday ... put density to max, viscosity to min, both touch to max | 19:02 |
| stephg | is it tied into the gyroscopes and stuff? | 19:02 |
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| Morpog_PC | at least to accelerometer | 19:03 |
| Venemo | I really should create that russian roulette app | 19:03 |
| Morpog_PC | Venemo, lol | 19:04 |
| Pnuu | using the proximity sensor?-) | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: bullet = wipes out the bootloader? | 19:04 |
| Morpog_PC | kimmoli, nice settings | 19:04 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps: naah, it wouldn't be that evil | 19:04 |
| kimmoli | hydrophopic finger | 19:05 |
| Venemo | it'd just dd a few bytes from /dev/random to a randomly picked place in the bootloader partition | 19:05 |
| Venemo | two people with jollas could play it | 19:06 |
| Venemo | the person whose jolla remains bootable for the longest, wins | 19:06 |
| dwangoAC | Venemo: For various definitions of "bootable" :) | 19:07 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps: this is surely more exciting than just wiping it out entirely, isn't it? | 19:07 |
| kimmoli | so actually who has longest uptime wins ? | 19:08 |
| Venemo | no, the user can't see the effect on the bootloader without rebooting | 19:09 |
| Venemo | for convenience, the app would also reboot the devices | 19:09 |
| Venemo | and by exciting, I mean, there is a probability that the bytes at /dev/random will coincide with those that are gonna be overridden | 19:12 |
| Morpog_PC | well, I guess with a less restrictive harbour the problem would be less urgent | 19:12 |
| Venemo | nah, I'd put this to openrepos | 19:12 |
| Venemo | :D | 19:12 |
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| Morpog_PC | :D | 19:13 |
| Venemo | just to help maintain their reputation | 19:14 |
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| Yaniel | it would surely help | 19:21 |
| Venemo | problem is, I don't care enough | 19:22 |
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| Venemo | LOL @ http://lickthisapp.com/ | 20:29 |
| Quu | ok, MitaKuuluu started randomly working | 20:32 |
| Quu | also, random shutdowns/reboots started randomly. | 20:33 |
| Quu | so. fml. | 20:33 |
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| parasemic | cargo dock* | 20:34 |
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