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| Guest83377 | oops, sry | 08:15 |
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| Milo- | where does the jolla-email store its emails? After re-creating an account, it seems to show bunch of emails that are actually deleted from the imap-server. | 08:22 |
| Milo- | I'd like to ensure that these emails are infact coming from the imap-server and not some cached emails on my phone. | 08:23 |
| chriadam | .qmf | 08:23 |
| Milo- | is it safe to rm -rf qmf/* after deleting an email account? | 08:24 |
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| Milo- | only one way to find out \o/ | 08:25 |
| Milo- | hah, clicked started adding new email account while the remourse counter was still running, now my screen is "permanently" very dim within settings application :) | 08:27 |
| Nicd- | it would be nice if the remorse timers were configurable | 08:28 |
| Nicd- | 5 seconds is a bit long for me | 08:28 |
| gabriel9|work | update? | 08:28 |
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| Milo- | next week? | 08:28 |
| stephg | ETA! | 08:29 |
| Morpog_Jolla | soon | 08:29 |
| Morpog_Jolla | :D | 08:29 |
| rangoy | soon (TM)? | 08:30 |
| Milo- | awesome. after removing .qmf/*, re-creating account, fetching emails no longer functions :o | 08:30 |
| gabriel9|work | someone said friday | 08:30 |
| gabriel9|work | today is friday | 08:30 |
| rangoy | this or next? | 08:30 |
| gabriel9|work | early march is not 14 | 08:31 |
| Acce | that 14 is for year | 08:31 |
| gabriel9|work | day | 08:31 |
| rangoy | gabriel9|work: true.. and jolla are unlike the others, they do actually deliver almost on schedule :) | 08:32 |
| Acce | ah, you meant next friday | 08:32 |
| stephg | slow clap for Milo- ;) | 08:32 |
| Pnuu | gabriel9|work: mar14 is march 2014, according to stskeeps | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | note that we had jan14 before too i think | 08:34 |
| Milo- | apparently now I don't have inbox at all and it's unwilling to fetch any emails from the server | 08:34 |
| Acce | next friday happens to be 14th, so gabriel doesn't mean the tag | 08:35 |
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| stephg | Milo-, reinstall the mail app? | 08:35 |
| Nicd- | someone should register isthenextjollaupdateoutyet.com | 08:35 |
| gabriel9|work | i read that update ETA is early march | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | you misunderstood, it's an 'early march' | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 08:36 |
| gabriel9|work | :D | 08:36 |
| gabriel9|work | and btw do not watch new 300 movie | 08:36 |
| Pnuu | "soon" | 08:36 |
| Milo- | stephg no dice. | 08:36 |
| stephg | :( | 08:36 |
| gabriel9|work | any updates on sdk and account API? | 08:37 |
| Nicd- | Milo-: maybe use 'mv' next time instead of 'rm' :P | 08:37 |
| gabriel9|work | and settings API is alose needed | 08:37 |
| Milo- | Nicd- that's what I did :) | 08:37 |
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| Milo- | qmailstore.db-wal stays empty after the .qmf cleanup. | 08:39 |
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| Milo- | Any idea how to safely get rid of cached emails? In such way that the mails won't get deleted from imap server? (force full sync) | 08:42 |
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| chem|st | Milo-: for me email does not fetch anything new at all, how about you wait for the update? | 09:02 |
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| chem|st | turn was 5 weeks... now is 5 weeks... we were told that it is march next as february is just to short to hit the timeframe... | 09:04 |
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| pp_ | "target" was this week, instead we get it next week :) | 09:13 |
| chem|st | but I like the friday update... gives me 2 days on my couch to write bugreports | 09:14 |
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| gabriel9|work | chem|st +1 | 09:26 |
| gabriel9|work | and to fix things | 09:26 |
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| Milo- | fixing is overrated | 09:30 |
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| chem|st | gabriel9|work: to fix things? | 10:03 |
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| chem|st | if Jolla does not want us to test RCs they have to live with the shitstorm the 5 weeks after that. 1.0.3.8 isnt considered a piece of art, and I wonder how they got it to Stable without 1000 users RC testing - or it is like Nokia, call for alpha testing for 3 month and release at the specified day no matter what state you have and call it Stable | 10:06 |
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| gabriel9|jolla | test irc | 10:14 |
| jabis | irc test passed | 10:15 |
| gabriel9|jolla | :) | 10:15 |
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| edgars | aaaaaa | 10:26 |
| edgars | i need a softupgrade | 10:26 |
| ggabriel | why? | 10:26 |
| edgars | WHY? | 10:26 |
| edgars | every day i have ~30 reboots | 10:26 |
| edgars | while calling | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | pull battery for 10 minutes | 10:27 |
| ln- | not enough? | 10:27 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: cause my device even reboots when connected to BT now | 10:27 |
| edgars | Stskeeps: after every call? :) | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | no | 10:27 |
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| ggabriel | chem|st: edgars: out of curiosity, do you guys use android? (chemist: sorry if I asked before, can't remember) | 10:28 |
| edgars | what android? | 10:28 |
| edgars | apps? | 10:28 |
| ggabriel | alien dalvik | 10:28 |
| edgars | nop | 10:28 |
| ggabriel | yeah, android applications in the jolla | 10:28 |
| ggabriel | interesting | 10:28 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: pulling the battery every now and then isnt that a good idea anymore as the Aloe TOH of my sister broke after removing it like 4 times... | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | chem|st: i don't disagree | 10:28 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: I have dalvik running but no apps started | 10:29 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: ;) | 10:29 |
| w00t_ | huh. haven't had an OH break, yet, but i've always been worried about that :) | 10:29 |
| * ggabriel wonders why his device hasn't rebooted a single time... | 10:29 | |
| edgars | i have no androshit at all | 10:29 |
| chriadam | if my TOH broke, i'd cry, honestly. | 10:29 |
| ggabriel | chem|st: sounds like something i'd take up as a warranty claim (aloe toh) | 10:29 |
| ggabriel | i had my first connection problem loop yesterday | 10:30 |
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| chem|st | w00t_: was wondering if that has been tested properly as a key feature I expect it to hold like at least 50 times (change each toh once a week) | 10:30 |
| edgars | so | 10:30 |
| edgars | when we will see a upgrade? | 10:30 |
| ggabriel | next week :) | 10:30 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: care@ is aware | 10:31 |
| edgars | damn | 10:31 |
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| edgars | if im going to germany that means i must take a second phone :/ | 10:32 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: I knew about the loop and stopped using connections but my home wlan which I had no problems with yet, first time I used mdata I had to reboot, actually every time I need mdata something gets screwed over | 10:32 |
| kehnoo | yeah, I've got trip coming up and not taking Jolla as I need reliable phone, sadly | 10:33 |
| ggabriel | i wonder what the connectivity issue is | 10:33 |
| ggabriel | as i have far fewer issues than the previous update | 10:33 |
| chem|st | Messaging is crashing alot, I cannot sync emails anymore and yesterday it rebooted out of the blue while on BT | 10:33 |
| ggabriel | edgars: fwiw, my n9 is still my main phone - i knew what i was doing when i bought a device with a beta tag | 10:33 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: for me it is the other way round, I had far less issues with 2.5 | 10:34 |
| ggabriel | yup | 10:34 |
| ggabriel | well, i do have to reboot every now and then nowadays | 10:34 |
| kehnoo | yeah, I had Jolla as main phone for solid month+, but now it seems to be doing random reboots and shutdowns | 10:34 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: and that may explain it... use it as your primary and you will run in a lot more issues I guess | 10:34 |
| ggabriel | chem|st: yup, may be the case, something building up or whatever | 10:35 |
| ggabriel | i noticed that msyncd misbehaves, or at least uses tons of cpu every now and then | 10:35 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: it seems to be aging like win98 | 10:35 |
| chem|st | it is getting stottery after like 4 days uptime | 10:35 |
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| chem|st | ignores swipes things start to crash - after a reboot everything is fine again for some days | 10:36 |
| Nicd- | I have 5 days uptime currently and I can't see any problems that would've appeared over time | 10:36 |
| ggabriel | yeah, the swipe ignores i get often | 10:36 |
| ggabriel | but only when using mobile data | 10:36 |
| ggabriel | never on wlan | 10:36 |
| chem|st | Nicd-: don't pin me on the timeframe | 10:37 |
| chem|st | could be 6 or even 7 days the last time this happened | 10:37 |
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| chem|st | ggabriel: yeah I can support that view, mostly mdata issues I had, I think it rebooted only once when on wlan in the last 5 weeks | 10:39 |
| chem|st | I am talking rebooting on its own | 10:39 |
| chem|st | I had to reboot by hand several times as connman was going wild with something | 10:39 |
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| ggabriel | fwiw: https://together.jolla.com/questions/scope:all/sort:activity-desc/tags:mar14/page:1/ | 10:40 |
| ggabriel | no conman mentioned there, but then it's tjc | 10:41 |
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| chem|st | most of that I never crossed | 10:43 |
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| w00t_ | it's not the _only_ stuff that changed. but I hope that's obvious :) | 10:45 |
| chem|st | I am more scared of that the design team is on the wrong pills now, it was so beautiful, sure a bit more contrast is needed but seriously a fat transparent X buttonlike indicator that you are closing an app?! | 10:46 |
| chem|st | w00t_: sure it is obvious | 10:46 |
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| ggabriel | w00t_: it's obvious, and it's obvious that you can't mark "mar14" certain questions that are too generic and so on | 10:47 |
| w00t_ | chem|st: you'd be surprised how many people were accidentally closing things on first exposure (being used to the top being used for some kind of notification tray) | 10:47 |
| chem|st | w00t_: hehe androids and zombies... | 10:47 |
| ggabriel | oh, yeah, that android thingy | 10:47 |
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| ggabriel | well, copy of symbian | 10:47 |
| chem|st | w00t_: you'd be surprised how fscked I am by the rotating gestures | 10:48 |
| w00t_ | am drowning in overly long usb cables | 10:48 |
| w00t_ | send help | 10:48 |
| Nicd- | chem|st: I think it looks better | 10:48 |
| * ggabriel sends a long usb cable to w00t_ to rescue him | 10:48 | |
| ggabriel | w00t_: grab with all your might! | 10:48 |
| w00t_ | ah, found the right one. buried under a pile of papers :) | 10:48 |
| chem|st | Nicd-: it breaks with the glas-like look | 10:48 |
| chem|st | Nicd-: after all I agree to have it made easier for the masses | 10:49 |
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| ggabriel | design wise, i think it's a matter of getting ppl out of android/ios, then you can do whatever | 10:50 |
| FireFly | I think the close indicator update seems like a good change | 10:51 |
| FireFly | I think the current one, while aesthetically pleasing, is a bit too easy to miss, and I've occasionally accidentally closed applications due to how landscape-mode is only half-implemented | 10:52 |
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| Nicd- | rotating gestures are really stupid currently | 10:53 |
| Tegu | FireFly: yea I've closed stuff too often accidentally | 10:54 |
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| Nicd- | I'd much rather have them not rotate in any app, but even extending rotation support to all apps would be better than the current situation | 10:54 |
| FireFly | Yeah | 10:54 |
| chem|st | Nicd-: it even happened to me that the page rotated and the gestures didn't | 10:54 |
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| * Stskeeps just has device permanently in portrait.. | 10:54 | |
| Tegu | especially when not all of the programs support landscape gesture rotations | 10:54 |
| Tegu | or change page-wise | 10:55 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: yeah so you have an update... | 10:55 |
| FireFly | Fingerterm has always had landscape support, but doesn't rotate gestures | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | point | 10:55 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: we don't | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, soon(TM) | 10:55 |
| Tegu | fingerterm doesn't have paste feature :( | 10:55 |
| chem|st | why are you waiting till next week anyways? | 10:55 |
| FireFly | Which is incredibly annoying when you're IRCing in fingerterm in landscape, switching to browser in landscape, then back to fingerterm | 10:55 |
| chem|st | Tegu: menu has it | 10:56 |
| FireFly | and the gestures differ between the two apps | 10:56 |
| Tegu | and copying only works inside the app, not system-wise (the last I tried.. actually I could try again now) | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | chem|st: we obviously didn't sacrifice enough goats | 10:56 |
| Raim | FireFly: agreed, I accidentally closed the browser several times when switching apps | 10:56 |
| chem|st | Tegu: ah ok I get it | 10:56 |
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| FireFly | Tegu: I think there was a PR for fixing that on Github | 10:57 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: should I, I am sure I can get at least a goat a lamb and a sheep by tonight! | 10:57 |
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| FireFly | https://github.com/nemomobile/fingerterm/pull/22 this claims to fix it one way, at least | 10:57 |
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| chem|st | FireFly: he? the gestures should be the same... if they differ you have the same problem as I had | 10:58 |
| FireFly | chem|st: they differ because fingerterm doesn't rotate the gesture, but the browser does | 10:58 |
| chem|st | changing orientation twice helps it | 10:58 |
| chem|st | FireFly: fingerterm does rotate the gestures | 10:58 |
| FireFly | Humm | 10:58 |
| FireFly | But I have fingerterm locked in landscape | 10:58 |
| chem|st | that is exactly what I am on about | 10:58 |
| Tegu | ah yea that's another problem. the orientation doesn't chane if you open the app in landscape | 10:58 |
| FireFly | Oh | 10:59 |
| Tegu | you have to rotate it to portrait and back. this affects all the apps | 10:59 |
| FireFly | I see | 10:59 |
| chem|st | my fingerterm is on autorotate and had portrait gestures in landscape | 10:59 |
| FireFly | And I hadn't noticed since I've had fingerterm locked to landscape ever since the pseudo-landscape-mode update | 10:59 |
| chem|st | Tegu: never recognized it on other apps yet | 10:59 |
| FireFly | so I just assumed it wasn't implemented in there | 11:00 |
| chem|st | FireFly: you saying if I lock it to landscape the gestures stay portrait? | 11:00 |
| chem|st | that is exactly what I want! | 11:00 |
| Tegu | hmm.. now that I tried it it worked.. maybe it happened in another situation | 11:00 |
| chem|st | for me it is much easier to minimize from the bottom in landscape than from the sides | 11:01 |
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| FireFly | Haha | 11:02 |
| FireFly | chem|st: it seems so, yes | 11:02 |
| chem|st | oh fsck it! | 11:02 |
| * chem|st is locking his fingerterm | 11:02 | |
| Tegu | okay now I tried opening Tidings in landscape and it was in portrait mode until I rotated it | 11:02 |
| Tegu | but browser opens correctly, it seems | 11:02 |
| FireFly | <chem|st> for me it is much easier to minimize from the bottom in landscape than from the sides ← I agree, *except* it's even worse if it differs between fingerterm and other apps | 11:03 |
| FireFly | but yeah, that behaviour everywhere (as it was before the pseudo-landscape-mode update) was pretty sweet | 11:03 |
| chem|st | FireFly: that is a bug... | 11:03 |
| FireFly | Yeah, yeah | 11:04 |
| Tegu | sometimes when using with one hand it changes orientation when swiping (due to reaching with a finger) | 11:04 |
| Tegu | an orientation lock would help here | 11:04 |
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| chem|st | FireFly: it is exploiting the bug that fingerterm starts always in landscape first but having the gestures portrait, so if rotation is not changed it stays that way | 11:04 |
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| FireFly | Chances are they've fixed it now that they have a system-wide rotation lock feature | 11:05 |
| FireFly | (in the upcoming update, I mean) | 11:06 |
| chem|st | FireFly: even better, if you fix the rotation the gestures stay that way, even if you hold it in landscape | 11:06 |
| FireFly | Oh | 11:06 |
| chem|st | FireFly: I doubt that it will | 11:06 |
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| chem|st | the dynamic feature seems to be cool, but I want gesture rotation off and page rotation dynamic... | 11:07 |
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| chem|st | Stskeeps: how do you unlock the dynamic rotation lock? | 11:09 |
| FireFly | It'd be nice if things like that were configurable with config files even if they don't have GUI options, so that power-users could configure their device exactly to their liking while it doesn't needlessly confuse people who don't care/the average user | 11:09 |
| Stskeeps | chem|st: two goats | 11:09 |
| chem|st | FireFly: +++ | 11:09 |
| * chem|st is off for finding goats | 11:09 | |
| chem|st | FireFly: an advanced section in settings available when in devel mode would be fair enough | 11:11 |
| FireFly | That would work as well | 11:12 |
| chem|st | on N9 I unlocked everything and anything I could find, the best thing I found to tune was the full swype settings... I never used it till I was able to configure it to my needs | 11:12 |
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| TMavica | testing | 12:27 |
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| Nicd- | Test failed! | 12:27 |
| TMavica | ... | 12:27 |
| Nicd- | (C)ontinue, (R)etry, (A)bort? | 12:28 |
| TMavica | is irc for sailfish consume operator data, i want keep it online | 12:28 |
| TMavica | lol | 12:28 |
| Nicd- | yes, the IRC client uses your mobile data | 12:28 |
| Eztran | though, being IRC, probably not much of it... | 12:29 |
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| TMavica | maybe i go register a unlimited data plan. | 12:29 |
| TMavica | feel not so good | 12:29 |
| TMavica | lol | 12:29 |
| Nicd- | it will also kill your battery :P | 12:29 |
| Nicd- | Eztran: I once measured that I was able to use about 0.5 MB per day on a network with a few pretty active channels | 12:30 |
| TMavica | not big deal, I have a powerful external power unit | 12:30 |
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| Eztran | I wouldn't call that 'much', but I guess that depends on your data plan. | 12:30 |
| TMavica | 10000 mah | 12:30 |
| Nicd- | Eztran: yeah, it's not much. unless your data plan counts time instead of bytes | 12:31 |
| Eztran | True, if it's connected time IRC wouldn't be a good idea. | 12:31 |
| TMavica | in my country, unlimited 4G data plan cost 368HK dollars | 12:31 |
| Venemo | morning | 12:31 |
| TMavica | that should be 37 euro dollars | 12:32 |
| Venemo | so, early march is gone, and no update so far | 12:32 |
| Nicd- | I have an unlimited data plan with 512k speed for 12.9 € per month | 12:32 |
| Nicd- | no, 2M speed | 12:32 |
| Nicd- | forgot I just upgraded | 12:32 |
| TMavica | mine is 4G | 12:32 |
| Eztran | Venemo: Pretty sure they've been saying 'next week' since the start of this week. No surprises yet. | 12:33 |
| TMavica | 512 k...too slow | 12:33 |
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| Nicd- | 2M is enough for me on mobile, allows me to watch youtube :P | 12:34 |
| TMavica | 2G unlimited plan only 6.8euro in HK | 12:34 |
| Venemo | Eztran: next week is can no longer be considered "early march" | 12:34 |
| Nicd- | Venemo: it's early march compared to the end of march ;) | 12:35 |
| Venemo | they should've announced "next update is coming in mid-march" | 12:35 |
| Eztran | 'early march' hasn't been used since last month that I've seen. Think I remember someone saying it slipped a week? | 12:35 |
| ggabriel | early march: 1-14 | 12:35 |
| ggabriel | mid march: 15-16 | 12:35 |
| Venemo | so then, a new announcement is in order, saying "oops, we did it again, update slips a week" | 12:35 |
| ggabriel | late march: 17-31 | 12:36 |
| Venemo | ggabriel: early march: 1-7; mid march: 8-21; late march: 21-31 | 12:36 |
| ggabriel | see? it's all relative ;-) | 12:36 |
| kehnoo | early march: january; mid march: march; late march: april :p | 12:37 |
| Venemo | kehnoo: +1 :D | 12:37 |
| Venemo | yeah | 12:37 |
| Venemo | anyway | 12:37 |
| Nicd- | where's february? | 12:37 |
| Venemo | ooops, they did it again | 12:37 |
| kehnoo | it's so short month, who cares | 12:38 |
| kehnoo | :p | 12:38 |
| Eztran | Hardly 'oops', update got postponed. Big deal. | 12:38 |
| kehnoo | totally did not forget it | 12:38 |
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| Venemo | the point is not "ooops", but "again" | 12:38 |
| Nicd- | is it such a big deal? | 12:39 |
| Eztran | Update didn't come the second you expect it 'again'. | 12:39 |
| Venemo | and now I will just stop arguing pointlessly about it :) | 12:39 |
| Eztran | That sounds a good plan :) | 12:39 |
| ggabriel | Venemo: when i have a deadline "early march" i want it to be 30-march :P | 12:40 |
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| Stskeeps | it'll come when it comes | 12:41 |
| ggabriel | is that am or pm? :P | 12:41 |
| Venemo | lol | 12:42 |
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| Nicd- | maybe Jolla has just collaborated with Valve to implement Jolla time(tm) | 12:42 |
| TMavica | I am cumming | 12:42 |
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| Acce | Maybe people just see things differently | 12:44 |
| ggabriel | impossible | 12:44 |
| Venemo | Acce: like what? | 12:44 |
| ggabriel | we must all see things like steve jobs | 12:44 |
| Acce | like, what is "early", exactly? | 12:44 |
| ggabriel | 4am | 12:44 |
| ggabriel | that's early | 12:44 |
| Acce | that is your definition | 12:44 |
| Eztran | Differing opinions on the Internet? No, this cannot happen! | 12:44 |
| Acce | I was thinking about 9 am :D | 12:45 |
| Mnsu | 9am is still early too | 12:45 |
| Acce | when does early become late? | 12:45 |
| ggabriel | after "on time" | 12:45 |
| Venemo | :D | 12:46 |
| Pnuu | relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5drjr9PmTMA | 12:46 |
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| Nicd- | is that the space balls clip? | 12:46 |
| Pnuu | it sure is! | 12:47 |
| Nicd- | then I don't even need to watch it to chuckle | 12:48 |
| Pnuu | "soon!" | 12:48 |
| Pnuu | :-D | 12:48 |
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| Nicd- | http://img.pandawhale.com/96817-sensible-chuckle-magazine-gif-FJK4.gif | 12:49 |
| Acce | hah, legendary :D | 12:51 |
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| kimmoli | my Jolla email signature in finnish "Lähetetty Jollastani" ... wonders is Jollastani a new country? | 13:32 |
| Nicd- | that would be Jollastania | 13:32 |
| kimmoli | after unfortunate typo... is head of sailors a sailord ? | 13:32 |
| kimmoli | Sailord of Jollastania | 13:33 |
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| svuorela | kimmoli: sai-lord? or sailor-d(aemon) ? | 13:38 |
| kimmoli | hmm | 13:38 |
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| Mirv | I thought daemon | 13:55 |
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| chem|st | cuppa coffee 15c, crackers 90c, altering the led patterns with one hand without bootlooping - priceless :D | 15:20 |
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| jabis | so cheap coffee | 15:41 |
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| bennypr0fane | can we say that Sf is based on Nemo like Ubuntu is based on Debian? | 15:42 |
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| chem|st | bennypr0fane: kind of | 15:45 |
| chem|st | sailfish is the combination of mer+nemo with silica on top | 15:45 |
| chem|st | if you compare mer+nemo with debian and silica with gnome | 15:47 |
| sardini | or mer+nemo = msdos and silica windows 3.1, | 15:48 |
| chem|st | well not exactly.... | 15:49 |
| chem|st | it is actually sailfish is based on mer with silica based on nemo | 15:49 |
| bennypr0fane | are the closed-source components of Sf only in the UI? | 15:49 |
| Stskeeps | bennypr0fane: i can get the view for you.. sec | 15:50 |
| Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/niceview.png | 15:50 |
| bennypr0fane | and is it possible to write Sailfish apps in a language other than qml (and html5)? | 15:51 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:51 |
| bennypr0fane | On Mameo/Meego it used to be C++. what about Python? | 15:51 |
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| bennypr0fane | ooh, there's "jolla-handwriting" package. Anyone knows what that's all about? Because it sounds like some handwritten-character recognition thingy. | 15:55 |
| bennypr0fane | Stskeeps: thanks! | 15:55 |
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| chem|st | bennypr0fane: .cn .jp chars | 15:56 |
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| FireFly | Stskeeps: lies, sailfish-browser is oss :P | 15:59 |
| bennypr0fane | chem|st: uhm, Windows registry editor files? | 15:59 |
| bennypr0fane | FireFly: indeed :-) | 16:00 |
| bennypr0fane | The sailfish browser is now called Sailbro. :-) | 16:00 |
| Stskeeps | FireFly: old view | 16:01 |
| chem|st | bennypr0fane: japaneese chineese | 16:01 |
| Raim | you made that sound like cheese, now I'm hungry | 16:03 |
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| bennypr0fane | chem|st: ah, I never get how they do the text input. I thought they have the simplified characters on the keyboard (bcs there is a limited number of those) and the prediction lets you choose from the actual iconograms. Or do they actually draw the chars on the screen in sailfish? | 16:04 |
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| Venemo_j | no | 16:08 |
| Venemo_j | noooooooooooooo | 16:08 |
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| Stskeeps | Venemo_j: mm? | 16:09 |
| bennypr0fane | Venemo_j: did you get an Sf update notification for 1.0.3.8? :-D | 16:09 |
| Venemo_j | I said the nooo just because I saw the windows 3.1 reference | 16:10 |
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| bennypr0fane | HAHAHA | 16:11 |
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| sardini | or mer+nemo = amigarom and silica = workbench, | 16:20 |
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| CoderCandy | Fuck! | 16:23 |
| CoderCandy | My jolla just random-crashed again | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | :( | 16:23 |
| CoderCandy | And I'm not ecen running 3.8! | 16:23 |
| CoderCandy | even* | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | hopefully next version helps a large majority and those it doesn't, would go to care.. | 16:24 |
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| CoderCandy | Yeah | 16:25 |
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| CoderCandy | Stskeeps: is a new update comming soon? | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | when it's coming, yeah | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | it's not like we sit on our desks with a pipe in our hand and watch people suffering; we try to work on issues of our device | 16:26 |
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| CoderCandy | Yeah I know, it's just that the update won't get pushed to me I think | 16:27 |
| CoderCandy | Since I'm running 2.5 I have to get 3.8 forst right? | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | not necessarily | 16:27 |
| CoderCandy | first* | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | i think 2.5 is a jump point | 16:28 |
| Venemo_j | what do you mean, 3.8 wasn't pushed to you? | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo_j: he's on a earlier version | 16:28 |
| CoderCandy | I had to get 2.5 before I could update to 3.8 when I factory reset | 16:29 |
| CoderCandy | So I was guessing I had to download all major updates beforw the current one in order to update. | 16:29 |
| CoderCandy | Also, I miss a working IRC client in 2.5 | 16:30 |
| Venemo_j | CoderCandy: download irc from store | 16:30 |
| CoderCandy | Ican't see my input field while typing now :( | 16:30 |
| CoderCandy | Venemo_j: I did... | 16:30 |
| CoderCandy | Doesn't work well on 2.5 | 16:30 |
| Venemo_j | what doesn't work? | 16:31 |
| CoderCandy | The IRC client from store | 16:31 |
| Venemo_j | man | 16:31 |
| CoderCandy | The keyboard block the input field. | 16:31 |
| Venemo_j | I mean, what doesn't work in it | 16:31 |
| Sail0r | it's because of the landscape mode fixes | 16:32 |
| sardini | or mer+nemo = salad and silica = sauce, or mer+nem = fries and silica = mayonaise | 16:32 |
| CoderCandy | It seems like the IRC client clears an area at the rom rather than the bottom. | 16:32 |
| Sail0r | this will break the client in 2.5 | 16:32 |
| * sardini dreaming | 16:32 | |
| Sail0r | you need the older version without landscape mode i thin | 16:32 |
| Sail0r | k | 16:32 |
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| CoderCandy | top* | 16:32 |
| CoderCandy | Does anyone have an RPM of that? | 16:33 |
| Venemo_j | CoderCandy: update to 3.8, will you? | 16:33 |
| CoderCandy | Venemo_j: It's not stable on my device... It renders it pretty much unusable | 16:34 |
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| CoderCandy | It got to the point where the remove battery trick only worked for like 15 minutes. | 16:35 |
| CoderCandy | And that was at >60% battery | 16:35 |
| CoderCandy | Anything less would only work a couple of seconds. | 16:35 |
| CoderCandy | Thus, 2.5 | 16:35 |
| Venemo_j | CoderCandy: allright. you can I think still download the old version of the IRC client from github | 16:36 |
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| CoderCandy | Cool, I'll check it out. | 16:36 |
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| Venemo | CoderCandy: https://github.com/communi/communi-sailfish/releases | 16:37 |
| CoderCandy | thanks | 16:37 |
| Acce | beep | 16:38 |
| CoderCandy | when was landscaoe introduced? | 16:38 |
| CoderCandy | landscape* | 16:38 |
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| Acce | anyone know any sqlite-like or even C / c++ / Qt graph databases? | 16:39 |
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| matoking | Aw crud, just figured out that my application deletes files instead of copying them :/ | 16:42 |
| raa70 | space saving feature | 16:42 |
| CoderCandy | Yeees! | 16:43 |
| CoderCandy | Now I can IRC normally on Jolla! | 16:43 |
| * CoderCandy is happy | 16:43 | |
| Sail0r | :) | 16:43 |
| matoking | @raa70 Yeah, it's a file manager application so this mistake is pretty critical | 16:43 |
| matoking | So anyone using Filetug, don't use cut + paste until it's fixed :P | 16:44 |
| Venemo | CoderCandy: beware, those versions are outdated and might be buggy | 16:46 |
| Venemo | CoderCandy: landscape was introduced in the latest release | 16:46 |
| CoderCandy | Venemo: it's probably less buggy than the nee version on 2.5 | 16:47 |
| CoderCandy | new* | 16:47 |
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| Venemo | CoderCandy: it isn't | 16:48 |
| CoderCandy | Wait, the tohd bug is still present in 2.5? | 16:48 |
| Venemo | CoderCandy: AFAIK yes | 16:48 |
| CoderCandy | Venemo: I beg the differ, I can see the input field on old version. | 16:49 |
| CoderCandy | Venemo: speaking of bugs, compare this in your desktop client vs jolla : & | 16:50 |
| Venemo | CoderCandy: yes, that old version is full of other bugs | 16:51 |
| CoderCandy | I had that bug in new version as well IIRC | 16:51 |
| Venemo | we should've added a dependency on the latest release to the package so people can't install it on old version | 16:51 |
| CoderCandy | That would probably be good :p | 16:53 |
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| Venemo | CoderCandy: not sure how the jolla store app would handle this, though | 16:59 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps: any thoughts? | 16:59 |
| Stskeeps | sorry, wasn't paying attention | 16:59 |
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| CoderCandy | Stskeeps, if an app has the latest Sailfish release as a dependency. | 17:00 |
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| ShadowJK | is communi in jolla store updated? should I be seeing updates? | 17:17 |
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| keithzg | Am I asleep? Have I slept? ;) | 20:29 |
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| Quu | yes | 21:00 |
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| Venemo | so hard to find a good IRC client | 21:43 |
| tbr | irssi ftw! | 21:44 |
| Quu | irssi/weechat | 21:44 |
| Venemo | I mislike terminal based IRC | 21:44 |
| Quu | pft | 21:44 |
| Venemo | pft=? | 21:44 |
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| Quu | using GUI for irc is like using word for coding | 21:45 |
| * keithzg likes Konversation quite a bit | 21:45 | |
| Venemo | Quu, I disagree | 21:45 |
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| Quu | you can. | 21:46 |
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| Venemo_ | thx | 21:46 |
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| chem|st | Venemo: I found it so hard to find a proper GUI client so I choose to go text-only with everything IRC IM Mail apart of some hickup with mailattachements (if no program is available on the server to display) I had no issues | 21:51 |
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| Venemo | chem|st, nice for you :) | 21:52 |
| chem|st | Venemo: are you looking for desktop? | 21:52 |
| Venemo_ | chem|st: I already have a desktop, I just want a nice-looking IRC client for it | 21:53 |
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| chem|st | I meant if you are loking for a desktop client | 21:53 |
| Venemo | yeah :) | 21:53 |
| Venemo | for now, I'm giving a chance to XChat | 21:54 |
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| Venemo | let's see how it works out | 21:54 |
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| chem|st | Venemo: yeah xchat or quassel | 21:55 |
| tbr | chatzilla is not a bad option either | 21:55 |
| keithzg | I remember using XChat way back in the day, I went over to Quassel and Konversation years ago though. | 21:55 |
| Raim | Venemo: go for hexchat instead, it's a recent fork | 21:56 |
| Venemo | Raim, already tried hexchat, it's hell ugly | 21:56 |
| mikma | http://hackaday.com/2014/03/07/soap-the-home-automation-router-and-kickstarter-scam/ | 21:57 |
| Raim | Venemo: wouldn't say ugly... works for me, though :-) | 21:58 |
| Venemo | if xchat doesn't work out, I can always try others | 21:58 |
| Venemo | so far I've used Konversation which worked quite okay-ish but I've had enough of it | 21:58 |
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| Venemo | xchat lost its chances, I'm using communi now | 22:22 |
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| Quu | apple people demands eyecandy for useless shit | 22:36 |
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