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| CoderCandy | gar... the IRC app works horribly on 2.5 | 06:20 |
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| CoderCandy | But 3.8 works horribly as a whole right now... | 06:21 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: I have not heard back on the Galaxy S3 I inquired about, but I spoke with my wife and she agreed to allow me to take her Nexus 4... so long as I get her a Nexus 5. :) | 06:24 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: When would an image for the Nexus 4 be ready? | 06:25 |
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| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: If possible I will try to get both an S3 and repurpose my wife's Nexus 4, but I need to not go too crazy with the budget | 06:29 |
| dwangoAC | If anyone here is willing to part with either of these phones and accepts Bitcoins please let me know, I'll pay a premium if I can pay with Bitcoin | 06:29 |
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| Stskeeps | dwangoAC: still waking up; but we need the sailfish update4 to come out first | 06:35 |
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| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: What's a rough timeframe? Days? Weeks? Months? Quarters? Years? :) | 06:40 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Feel free to tell me to go read something on the website, by the way | 06:41 |
| Stskeeps | dwangoAC: less than month more than week | 06:41 |
| nahkiss | giving timeframes is bad, because if they miss them then everyone feels bad | 06:41 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Perfect. | 06:41 |
| dwangoAC | nahkiss: I'm a test engineer / in QA by trade - I totally get that | 06:41 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: I'll order the Nexus 5 and it should be here in a couple of weeks | 06:42 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: That'll give us some time to get everything transferred | 06:42 |
| dwangoAC | (From the Nexus 4 my wife is currently using to the Nexus 5) | 06:42 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: just be aware it's early adaptors at this point, ie, if it goes up in flames, i'm not responsible | 06:43 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Heh | 06:43 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: I have access to JTAG interfaces at work, does that help? :) | 06:44 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 06:44 |
| Stskeeps | no clue if jtag is even exposed at n4 ;) | 06:44 |
| dwangoAC | (We use it for some of the stuff we make) | 06:44 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Yeah, I don't know either | 06:44 |
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| CoderCandy | augh, I don't like 2.5 | 06:45 |
| tehdely | i think after i get my jolla repaired (whenver that happens) | 06:45 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Most of my experience with a JTAG interface is from.. um.. putting Linux on original Xbox consoles | 06:45 |
| tehdely | i will keep it as a dev device | 06:45 |
| CoderCandy | IRC is borked :h | 06:45 |
| CoderCandy | :(* | 06:45 |
| tehdely | and get an s3 or somethign that's a bit more US -comaptible | 06:45 |
| tehdely | as my sailfish device | 06:45 |
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| tehdely | if that is jolla's answer for ppl in the US right now, then sign me up :) | 06:45 |
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| Venemo_j | hey! | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | moo | 06:49 |
| CoderCandy | woof? | 06:50 |
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| tehdely | hiss | 06:50 |
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| Pnuu | what does the fox say? | 06:50 |
| dwangoAC | Pnuu: Um... no | 06:51 |
| tehdely | heheheh | 06:51 |
| tehdely | i almost said it | 06:51 |
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| Pnuu | (and I don't even understand what's funny about that song :-D) | 06:51 |
| dwangoAC | tehdely: What would you say? :) | 06:51 |
| CoderCandy | Was THAT what we were doing? | 06:52 |
| tehdely | yiff! :P | 06:52 |
| * CoderCandy cringes. | 06:52 | |
| * tehdely not a furry i swear to G-d almighty | 06:52 | |
| dwangoAC | My wife just said "Ring ding ding ding dingiding!" | 06:53 |
| tehdely | funny, i have married my phone as well | 06:53 |
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| dwangoAC | tehdely: Wait, what? | 06:54 |
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| chriadam | he's not a ylvis fan, I guess | 06:55 |
| tehdely | never heard of it | 06:56 |
| Pnuu | lucky you | 06:56 |
| walokra | that ring ding ding sounds more like the crazy frog | 06:57 |
| tehdely | so it sounds like a trabant? :P | 06:57 |
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| Venemo_j | Pnuu: I know a good parody of that song: 'What does Laplace say?' | 07:05 |
| chriadam | i liked the suse parody. high production values on that one. | 07:07 |
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| CoderCandy | Ring ring ring ring ring ring banana.phone. | 07:10 |
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| Pnuu | Venemo_j: :-D | 07:30 |
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| Venemo_j | Pnuu: watched it? | 08:05 |
| Pnuu | no, not yet | 08:05 |
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| Acce | Venemo_j: haha, this rocks | 08:13 |
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| AL13N_work | Acce: what's so funny? | 08:29 |
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| TMavica | the operator so surprise about my Jolla in Hong Kong | 08:37 |
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| TMavica | they never heard it, lol.. | 08:37 |
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| Wnt | The list of questions tagged in mar14 is already 2 pages long :) https://together.jolla.com/questions/scope:all/sort:age-desc/tags:mar14/ | 09:14 |
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| Acce | AL13N_work: What does Laplace say? | 09:16 |
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| suy | so, mar14 is supposed to be the date? or it could be just a placeholder for the release version? | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | march 2014 | 09:35 |
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| ln- | http://elitedaily.com/news/technology/this-insane-new-app-will-allow-you-to-read-novels-in-under-90-minutes/ | 09:49 |
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| sharpneli | While spritz is quite cool I don't seriously think that reading speed is the limiting factor in novels. | 09:50 |
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| roboro | yeah... I actually *like* to take my time reading | 09:53 |
| leinir | Hehe, yeah, me too :) | 09:53 |
| roboro | it gives the imagination space to kick in | 09:53 |
| joonahoi_ | that's true for literature, but i'd prefer reading the work emails and such way faster | 09:53 |
| roboro | that I already do... I skim a *lot* | 09:54 |
| AL13N_work | i like taking my time too, time to visualise details and surrounding of the fiction books i'm reading | 09:54 |
| roboro | if something looks like its interesting I re-read | 09:54 |
| AL13N_work | for other text, that's called "diagonal reading" :-) | 09:54 |
| AL13N_work | it's a lot faster than this system | 09:54 |
| chem|st | AL13N_work: cross-reading... | 09:55 |
| ln- | counter argument: things in movies (usually) happen a lot faster than what it takes to read the same things in a novel. still people don't watch movies at half speed. | 09:56 |
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| roboro | movies don't require that much imagination | 09:57 |
| leinir | ln-: also counter argument - most movies are built on short stories, not novels | 09:57 |
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| roboro | reading is quite different to getting spoon-fed | 09:57 |
| sharpneli | Also stuff like normal conversation in movies is dog slow compared to how one can read it. But action stuff etc is a lot faster in movies. | 09:58 |
| leinir | also, in a similar comparison - apples are much worse than pancakes ;) | 09:58 |
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| ln- | leinir: short stories are usually something between 2 and 15 pages, not many movies' plot would fit in that space. | 09:58 |
| sharpneli | Maybe the word you are searching for is novella | 10:00 |
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| sharpneli | Longer than short story, shorter than a novel | 10:00 |
| Acce | actually reading stuff with that thing could help people learn to concentrate on one thing, maybe help your memory too | 10:02 |
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| AL13N_work | movies based on books have ripped out a lot of stuff | 10:07 |
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| ln- | certainly. | 10:08 |
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| HtheB | is there any way to get "android root" access? | 11:04 |
| HtheB | like using "SuperSu" or "Superuser" ? | 11:04 |
| inffy_ | devel-su | 11:04 |
| HtheB | thats from the terminal | 11:04 |
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| inffy_ | yep | 11:04 |
| HtheB | I think I need to set some permissions so that Superuser (app) can update it? | 11:05 |
| HtheB | afaik it should be at /usr/bin/su | 11:05 |
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| HtheB | no noe? | 11:09 |
| HtheB | one*? | 11:09 |
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| suy | HtheB: what do you mean by "android root"? | 11:16 |
| HtheB | suy: well, some apps require "root" | 11:16 |
| HtheB | as in "android root" | 11:16 |
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| HtheB | there are apps like supersu and superuser who can grant access to those apps who need rootaccess | 11:16 |
| tbr | which is the XDA way of saying "a suid su binary" | 11:17 |
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| HtheB | probably | 11:17 |
| bencoh | that sound awful | 11:17 |
| bencoh | +s | 11:17 |
| chem|st | contacts linking fallout... https://together.jolla.com/question/32132/bug-messaging-wrong-number-assigned-to-conversation/ | 11:18 |
| HtheB | By the way, funny that Sailfish OS is a gesture based OS... but the device password is not gesture based at all.. | 11:19 |
| HtheB | (as in "Pattern lock") | 11:19 |
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| inffy_ | well it's still under heavy development so...might come somedaty | 11:23 |
| inffy_ | *day | 11:23 |
| suy | Maybe is a patent risk. http://9to5google.com/2011/11/18/google-patents-android-pattern-unlock/ I hope is not, though. | 11:24 |
| chem|st | the time-picker could be a gesture-lock | 11:26 |
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| SpeedEvil | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Zedlock | 11:29 |
| Acce | pattern unlock patented? well, we just need to come up with some other type of gesture lock | 11:29 |
| SpeedEvil | http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Zedlock&oldid=40849 | 11:30 |
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| HtheB | chem|st: time-picker? | 11:35 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm sure I remember other pattern locks | 11:36 |
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| SpeedEvil | (above is prior art, on the patent - at least somewhat in 2008 - for thos that haven't clicked) | 11:36 |
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| HtheB | I think I have a good idea for the lockscreen | 11:41 |
| roboro | me too | 11:41 |
| HtheB | tell me yours :) | 11:41 |
| roboro | how about you select 3 images that you can use to unlock... the unlock screen displays tiled images... with your 3 images randomly placed... you select the 3 images that unlock and voila | 11:42 |
| suy | SpeedEvil: so you think google's patents might be invalid? | 11:42 |
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| HtheB | I think my idea is more superiour :) | 11:43 |
| rangoy | I think that 9/10 software patents should be invalidated | 11:43 |
| roboro | HtheB: tell us your idea | 11:43 |
| SpeedEvil | Also - the other patent I saw referenced as to how to recognise shapes drawn on screen looks damn like xstroke | 11:43 |
| roboro | or patent it :D | 11:43 |
| HtheB | direction swiping (not from the edges, but just anywhere on the screen) | 11:44 |
| HtheB | like: up up down down left right left right (yes... first part of the konami code lol) | 11:44 |
| SpeedEvil | that's also got a patent AIUI | 11:44 |
| HtheB | you can unlock the screen without even looking at the screen! | 11:44 |
| chem|st | go https://together.jolla.com/question/18090/alternative-unlock-screen/?answer=18094#post-id-18094 and post your ideas! | 11:44 |
| SpeedEvil | Google was also granted another patent titled “Automatic Derivation of Analogous Touch Gestures From A User-Defined Gesture” (patent ID: 20110279384) which specifically details methods to decipher custom gestures drawn anywhere on the lock screen, regardless of their shape, size, position, etc | 11:44 |
| HtheB | SpeedEvil: im talking about multiple gestures, not 1 gesture | 11:45 |
| roboro | HtheB: lots of chance that something that lurks very close to my pocket will do a bit of swiping :P | 11:45 |
| stephg | remind me never to touch your phone roboro | 11:45 |
| roboro | lol | 11:45 |
| SpeedEvil | I ahve actually managed to pocket-slide-unlock a nexus 7, and buy an app - from the homescreen | 11:45 |
| SpeedEvil | Fortunately, I caught it in the 15 min window | 11:45 |
| chem|st | SpeedEvil: wtf they patent anything nowadays... | 11:46 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 11:46 |
| chem|st | gesture recognition is like 20 years old... | 11:46 |
| SpeedEvil | You should never, ever be able to get a patent for something that can be developed by an engineer of average skill in the field in less than the total time it would take to write the patent - and get it through all the steps of patent searching,. | 11:47 |
| SpeedEvil | That's just barking mad. | 11:47 |
| chem|st | SpeedEvil: the patent system is barking mad, there needs to be a massive change in how knowledge gets protected | 11:48 |
| SpeedEvil | I would argue that the benchmark should be somewhere around '3 months of effort by the average engineer' | 11:48 |
| chem|st | like patents get void if they were not used | 11:49 |
| roboro | how about faux-morse unlock | 11:49 |
| roboro | tap tap tap swipe swipe tap | 11:49 |
| roboro | obviously timeout between taps and swipes | 11:50 |
| roboro | so you need to do it in quick succession | 11:50 |
| roboro | swipe can be in any direction | 11:50 |
| SpeedEvil | In practice. | 11:50 |
| SpeedEvil | Make a UI. | 11:50 |
| SpeedEvil | err | 11:50 |
| roboro | tap can be anywhere on the screen | 11:50 |
| SpeedEvil | an API | 11:50 |
| SpeedEvil | Let other people develop screen lock apps | 11:50 |
| roboro | that would be best | 11:51 |
| SpeedEvil | they are not practically going to go after someone releasing a free clone of a pattern lock. | 11:51 |
| roboro | API for unlock | 11:51 |
| SpeedEvil | They in principle may go after jolla for distributing as stock software | 11:51 |
| chem|st | SpeedEvil: right, a mandatory way to enter the actual lock-code and emergency dialing and off you go | 11:51 |
| roboro | I think the faux-morse one would be hard to patent... morse has been around forever | 11:52 |
| SpeedEvil | roboro: you miss the whole point. | 11:52 |
| SpeedEvil | It's not morse. | 11:52 |
| SpeedEvil | It's morse-on-a-phone-for-unlocking | 11:52 |
| HtheB | https://together.jolla.com/question/18090/alternative-unlock-screen/#post-id-32138 | 11:52 |
| chem|st | roboro: they patented showing icons with your hands in front of google-glas | 11:53 |
| roboro | that's ridiculous... american patent law is just out of hand | 11:53 |
| roboro | anything on a touch screen to unlock would be considered a pattern | 11:53 |
| chem|st | roboro: they cannot patent the gesture but they have patented the recognition by a bodymounted camera system | 11:54 |
| roboro | so you've patented unlocking which is ridiculous | 11:54 |
| roboro | a password is a pattern | 11:54 |
| HtheB | I hope you guys like the idea what I've just posted | 11:54 |
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| bencoh | /32 | 11:54 |
| bencoh | /32 | 11:55 |
| Jope | nice ctrl-l's you have there | 11:55 |
| bencoh | indeed ... sorry about that | 11:55 |
| HtheB | :D | 11:55 |
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| chem|st | so messaging numberlinking is now total fallout | 12:00 |
| HtheB | lols | 12:01 |
| chem|st | I sent a message to the wrong number and it was sent to the right one, a new message received from the right but it does still show the wrong number | 12:01 |
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| HtheB | voted :) | 12:02 |
| chem|st | and I cannot switch to another number as it thinks it is attached to a single number^^ | 12:04 |
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| chem|st | now it is completely gone | 12:05 |
| chem|st | linking it to the account seems to do nothing anymore, the conversation is fixed to show that number and that even linked shown unlinked | 12:05 |
| chem|st | so now I managed to have it show the new number on all... | 12:06 |
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| chem|st | messaging crashed - after I unlinked it again... killall jolla-messages and tada I have two conversations | 12:10 |
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| chem|st | I did not unlink, I did delete the old number... | 12:15 |
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| Jaksu | jes :Dd | 12:28 |
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| Jaksu | coolia | 12:31 |
| Jaksu | onks sulki jolla? | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | sorry, english? | 12:31 |
| Jaksu | oh shit | 12:32 |
| Jaksu | i tough this is finnish :Dd | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 12:32 |
| Jaksu | you guys got a jolla phones? | 12:32 |
| ggabriel | i do | 12:32 |
| joonahoi_ | not sure about Stskeeps, but most of us do | 12:32 |
| ggabriel | but i am not the first one | 12:32 |
| joonahoi_ | ;) | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | joonahoi_: well, i don't have a retail device.. | 12:33 |
| joonahoi_ | so i was accidentally almost right | 12:33 |
| Jaksu | i got jolla but my screen is broken :/ | 12:33 |
| ggabriel | Jaksu: take it to a dna store and get it repaired if you live in .fi | 12:34 |
| Jaksu | im lazy and its cost :Dd | 12:34 |
| ggabriel | well, yeah, but if you break something.... | 12:35 |
| pp_ | dna seemed to be selling discount jollas here, 299e for a display model :P | 12:35 |
| ggabriel | or just get a new one | 12:35 |
| pp_ | hope they don't stop displaying one | 12:35 |
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| Milo- | great.. my phone shut itself down 2 times in the last 10 minutes when invoking a pulley menu in mail client. | 13:04 |
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| joonahoi_ | Milo-: remove your battery for 10min | 13:05 |
| Milo- | why? :o | 13:05 |
| joonahoi_ | because it seems to help | 13:05 |
| Milo- | because what looks like a software bug is actually a hardware issue? | 13:05 |
| joonahoi_ | the bug will most likely get fixed in near future | 13:06 |
| Milo- | mkay | 13:06 |
| joonahoi_ | yeah, seems like one. happens in multiple occasions | 13:06 |
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| Milo- | joonahoi_ okay, now it died as I touched the screen... | 14:18 |
| Milo- | I guess I'll have to keep the battery off for about 10 minutes.. | 14:18 |
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| HtheB | :) | 14:43 |
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| Milo- | well, that was 30 minuts, but let's hope this makes it stable again. | 14:45 |
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| flux | nooo, it should've been exactly 10 minutes! | 14:59 |
| flux | (just kidding ;-)) | 14:59 |
| Anz_ | how to edit community wiki :) | 14:59 |
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| ShadowJK | heh | 15:02 |
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| Anz_ | * takes it back | 15:04 |
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| ShadowJK | Ordered 2 days ago screen protectors for jolla, one from a .fi shop, one from a .de shop.. Both arrived today | 15:06 |
| ShadowJK | german post is fast | 15:07 |
| chem|st | ShadowJK: post or dhl? | 15:10 |
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| ShadowJK | post | 15:57 |
| stephg | pre | 15:57 |
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| sardini | hello, question: how to test small change in a qml file without compile all the program and deploy all on sdk just for a few pixel test | 16:11 |
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| roboro | sardini: ssh into the emulator/device and edit the qml file there | 16:18 |
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| roboro | I often do this when handling layout issues | 16:19 |
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| roboro | I usually deploy to my jolla... then I find the qml files I want to muck with... if you deploy as rpm, the qml files for your app are usually in /usr/share/{appname}/qml | 16:21 |
| roboro | I think if you deploy as binaries then they are in /opt | 16:22 |
| roboro | or maybe that's changed | 16:22 |
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| roboro | I'm not sure, but you may need to restart the app after you modify a qml file... I don't think that they load as you switch through the pages... but I might be wrong on this | 16:23 |
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| sardini | yes thank you roboro in /opt | 16:28 |
| roboro | have fun... | 16:28 |
| sardini | a shortcut on qtcreator will be nice ... | 16:29 |
| roboro | heh... indeed | 16:29 |
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| Nightmare__ | is there a harbour compliant way to prevent the phone switching the screen off? i use a dbus-call in my openrepos version, but it isn't allowed in harbour | 18:43 |
| M4rtinK | Nightmare__: well, there was a discussion about it recently on the Sailfish-Devel mailing list | 18:44 |
| M4rtinK | IIRC the outcome was you can use the DBUS API | 18:44 |
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| M4rtinK | but you have to call it from C++ | 18:45 |
| M4rtinK | as the QML DBUS module is not yet stable/allowed in Harbour | 18:45 |
| Nightmare__ | thx, i'll give it a try | 18:47 |
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| Nightmare__ | M4rtinK: thx, seems to work | 19:27 |
| M4rtinK | Nightmare__: good to hear that :) | 19:27 |
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| chem|st | anyone up for porting maemo extras? | 20:15 |
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| tbr | chem|st: hopefully Chum, or whatever the community or Jolla will chose to call it will become a bit like maemo extras. when it comes to particular packages, there might be better options than porting ancient deb packaging to RPM, if newer and up to date RPM packaging exists for such. | 20:39 |
| tbr | chem|st: I'd suggest to discuss this with lbt and or on the mailing list | 20:40 |
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| szopin_sailing | extras devel? yes pls! | 20:41 |
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| szopin_sailing | oh extras... develless | 20:44 |
| szopin_sailing | then again warehouse does for devel with no testing/promotes | 20:45 |
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| tbr | szopin_sailing: sure, it's the no-seatbelts option, easy but no security, no qa | 20:50 |
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| szopin_sailing | yeah, would be nice to not have to set up each repo though, it takes ages to update | 20:51 |
| szopin_sailing | extras-devel worked nice with all the warnings of coursr | 20:51 |
| szopin_sailing | hopefully jolla guys have something planned | 20:52 |
| szopin_sailing | store or nothing with all restrictions in the store is meh | 20:53 |
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| tbr | szopin_sailing: have you seen the mailing list discussion? | 20:58 |
| szopin_sailing | link? | 20:58 |
| tbr | https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-February/003316.html | 20:59 |
| tbr | if you don't mind foul language you can also read the previous posts. | 20:59 |
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| szopin_sailing | ty | 21:00 |
| szopin_sailing | :) | 21:00 |
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| keithzg | I'll still be sad personally that it's RPM rather than DEB, but that ship has long since sailed (ba-dum-TISH) | 22:37 |
| keithzg | One more thing to hold against Intel, I guess :P | 22:38 |
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| * Aard is pretty happy that we're using rpm :p | 22:57 | |
| Aard | even better would be "none of rpm or deb", but if I have to choose I'd go for rpm | 22:57 |
| Turski | pacman <3 | 22:59 |
| Turski | (not so sure if it would be suitable for a project like sailfish :P) | 22:59 |
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| keithzg | I'll admit, my hatred of RPM is probably antiquated. Post-traumatic stress disorder from RPM hell ;) | 23:13 |
| keithzg | One of the servers I've inherited at my current job is relatively modern CentOS install and I've been pleasantly surpised how it doesn't break all the time when updating, heh. | 23:15 |
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| chem|st | keithzg: no it is not... it is not actually RPM but the tools around it are so limited... people are even porting apt and aptitude to rpm based distros... for a reason! | 23:15 |
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| chem|st | both systems have their pros and cons, but if I have to choose I end up with debian (I did my time with rpm..) | 23:18 |
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| stephg | I refer you to the old monastery mantra: all software sucks ;) | 23:21 |
| stephg | (and the corollary: all hardware blows, until you power it down) | 23:22 |
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| Aard | chem|st: apt/aptitude porting for rpm based distros was something from almost 10 years ago. nowadays stuff like zypper exists | 23:23 |
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| chem|st | Aard: I am getting old and yes it is like 8 years since I had to touch rpm | 23:49 |
| chem|st | I am undecided if I like zypper or not | 23:50 |
| Aard | it was crap back when it got introduced into meego, but matured fast. | 23:50 |
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