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| tehdely | ok chem|st, I have requested a repair. wish me luck ;) | 00:54 |
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| rangoy | I notice that mar14 tag is added to more issues now at tjc :) | 07:53 |
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| artemma | When you play music in a music player, are you able to control volume when you are not in the app? | 09:06 |
| Yaniel | yes | 09:07 |
| artemma | I only tried playing music in CuteSpotify so far and there you need to be exactly in the app for volume keys to work | 09:07 |
| Yaniel | ah, that is different | 09:07 |
| Yaniel | the system music player works with the volume buttons at any time | 09:07 |
| artemma | what about wired headset? Do volume buttons on it work? | 09:08 |
| artemma | they don't for CuteSpotify | 09:08 |
| artemma | at least ones on apple headset | 09:08 |
| Yaniel | I don't have one so can't test | 09:08 |
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| stephg | artemma I think that's a dalvik thing, as Yaniel says with the native media player they always work | 09:18 |
| artemma | stephg: CuteSpotify is native saifish app | 09:19 |
| stephg | oh yeah thought you were talking about the official client | 09:19 |
| stephg | ignore me | 09:19 |
| stephg | bug in CuteSpotify? | 09:20 |
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| Yaniel | iirc it has been unclear how apps can/should use volume keys | 09:20 |
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| artemma | I think I've heard there is no way for listening to the headset keys for now, don't know about device's volume buttons | 09:32 |
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| CoderCandy | artemma, Yaniel: Don't the camera app use the volume keys? | 09:53 |
| minimec | artemma: Hi. I cannot confirm that for bluetooth headsets. My Logitech H800 headset works quiet well with my Jolla. I can use Prev/Next and Play/Pause buttons. Volume is handled by the headset itself. | 09:54 |
| Yaniel | yes, I haven't tried using the media player and the camera at the same time | 09:54 |
| artemma | okay, then I guess it's just that CuteSpotify doesn't use them in whichever is the supposed way | 09:54 |
| Yaniel | I guess if the camera app has focus it captures the keys for itself | 09:55 |
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| szopin | morning | 10:01 |
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| Venemo | mewants the march update | 10:17 |
| Nicd- | don't we all | 10:18 |
| ggabriel | soon | 10:18 |
| pp_ | :-) | 10:18 |
| salami` | I managed to solve my bootloop problem \o/ | 10:18 |
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| pp_ | yea, they're probably doing something totally useless like testing on it | 10:19 |
| Nicd- | salami`: how? | 10:19 |
| pp_ | instead of releasing | 10:19 |
| salami` | Nicd-: uninstalled android firefox | 10:19 |
| salami` | sounds weird, but works | 10:19 |
| ggabriel | so that's why i never had an issue | 10:19 |
| ggabriel | i don't use android | 10:19 |
| ggabriel | android is like windows: a virus | 10:19 |
| Nicd- | salami`: ok, I don't have that installed :P | 10:19 |
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| Nicd- | I have a few android apps for stuff that isn't available for jolla (banking, reddit, youtube, google+...) | 10:20 |
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| Nicd- | but I try to avoid them if I can | 10:20 |
| Yaniel | obligatory http://s.quickmeme.com/img/48/48172717e05abab796e94d46967d5ce7c6f3a7ecc143b8df2f73eec36165c89c.jpg | 10:20 |
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| Yaniel | re ggabriel | 10:21 |
| ggabriel | thanks Yaniel | 10:21 |
| ggabriel | i was thinking exactly like that | 10:21 |
| Yaniel | :D | 10:22 |
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| Venemo | Yaniel :D | 10:26 |
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| roboro | mmmm when is the next update out? just kidding...... | 10:31 |
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| Sailor2649 | hi | 11:40 |
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| pawky | WTF!!!.... I accidentally swiped left. Now my 1000 character SMS message is gone... gone!!! idiocy... | 12:16 |
| Nicd- | that's a long SMS you've got there... would be a shame if something were to happen to it | 12:17 |
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| stn^ | :D | 12:17 |
| kimmoli | (prefixed with apologies) you also swipe in toilet to get rid of s**t you made, don't you? ... | 12:17 |
| stn^ | sorry.. | 12:17 |
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| pawky | stn^: I cannot say I did write some s**t... It might be different with the very person designing the SMS interface though... | 12:25 |
| clau | pawky, that happens with emails too, afaik | 12:26 |
| pawky | clau: oh noooooo.... | 12:26 |
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| clau | in fact, I have no idea how I can make a draft from an email | 12:28 |
| pawky | stn^: I do hope you are not swiping to the left when you are on the toilet though.... | 12:28 |
| clau | nevermind that, there a 'save as draft' option in the pulley menu | 12:29 |
| pawky | clau: Draft, obviously 'does not exist in this dojo' | 12:29 |
| Nicd- | pawky: it was kimmoli who said it, not stn^ | 12:29 |
| pawky | Nicd-: ops... my bad... | 12:29 |
| stn^ | no I was sorry for laughing at first.. just couldn't help it | 12:29 |
| pawky | :-) | 12:30 |
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| pawky | kimmoli: ^ ^ | 12:30 |
| clau | pawky, also, in Notes, when you swipe left your note is saved | 12:30 |
| clau | not very consistent | 12:31 |
| pawky | clau: Wich makes me wonder even more, why SMS is excluded ... | 12:31 |
| clau | IMO both the Messaging app and Email app need a lot of developer love. | 12:31 |
| clau | another issue in Messaging app is that there isn't any date separator | 12:32 |
| clau | it just goes on forever | 12:32 |
| clau | in fact, let me re-check... maybe there was something done in 1.0.3.8 | 12:32 |
| clau | no, for xmpp chats there's no date anywhere | 12:33 |
| pawky | To be honest, I am not really sure in what state that SMS i wrote is in... did it send, did it get deleted, is it somewhere in some unknown drafts folder?... | 12:33 |
| stn^ | to be fair, I've always thought that the sms app in android sucks donkey b#lls.. you see only few lines of sms you're writing any given time | 12:33 |
| clau | https://together.jolla.com/question/18666/enhancement-show-date-in-chat-when-it-changes/ | 12:33 |
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| clau | in fact, I'd rather see more improvements in functionality, rather than eye candy :( | 12:36 |
| clau | I would use K-9 android email client, which has everything I would need (except for the fact that you get android UI), but the notifications for android apps do not work | 12:40 |
| clau | and yes, I tried keeping the app in the background of the vm, by running GO Launcher on top of the vm | 12:40 |
| clau | still doesn't work. | 12:40 |
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| clau | can anyone open Store and check if any icons are visible? | 12:53 |
| clau | everything looks ok, except that icons are just empty place holders | 12:53 |
| clau | even in My Apps | 12:53 |
| stn^ | nothing wrong with my store app | 12:54 |
| clau | weird :| | 12:54 |
| Nicd- | works here too | 12:55 |
| Nicd- | though sometimes some apps do lose their icons in my store | 12:55 |
| clau | I wonder if they are loaded from the web, or stored locally | 12:55 |
| clau | I mean, in Store app. | 12:55 |
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| clau | seems to be this one: https://together.jolla.com/question/4158/bad-icons-in-my-apps-in-jolla-store/ | 13:01 |
| clau | ok, I dropped from wifi and stayed on 3g, and now Store works fine | 13:05 |
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| clau | maybe there's something with my inet connection and the phone can't reach the servers; or it was just coincidence. | 13:06 |
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| TMavica | can google now launcher run in Jolla? | 13:24 |
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| szopin | did anyone manage to build libtsm or wlterm? | 14:06 |
| szopin | Makefile.am:136: variable `EXTRA_libtsm_la_DEPENDENCIES' is defined but no program or Makefile.am:136: library has `EXTRA_libtsm_la' as canonical name (possible typo) | 14:06 |
| szopin | google tells me nothing :( | 14:07 |
| AL13N_work | odd | 14:15 |
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| AL13N_work | looks like autotools fault | 14:15 |
| AL13N_work | probably needs to drop the EXTRA_ with _DEPENDENCIES | 14:16 |
| AL13N_work | ie: "EXTRA_libtsm_la" has "libtsm_la_DEPENDENCIES" | 14:16 |
| AL13N_work | not "EXTRA_libtsm_la_DEPENDENCIES" | 14:16 |
| AL13N_work | szopin: ^^ | 14:16 |
| szopin | hmmm... thanks, not sure where to look into that, will dig some more | 14:18 |
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| szopin | Makefile.am has: EXTRA_libtsm_la_DEPENDENCIES = $(top_srcdir)/docs/libtsm.sym | 14:20 |
| szopin | looks like this is the same in git.. hmm | 14:21 |
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| AL13N_work | the message says that for _DEPENDENCIES, it thinks the canonical name is EXTRA_libtsm_la ... but the canonical name is libtsm_la ... the fact that it's configured to be extra shouldn't matter for the dependencies | 14:24 |
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| szopin | i'll try to remova that EXTRA manually, thx | 14:27 |
| AL13N_work | szopin: well, i'm not 100% sure, but that's what the error message looks like, to me | 14:28 |
| szopin | THX! Worked | 14:29 |
| AL13N_work | heh | 14:30 |
| AL13N_work | now that's the second issue i've blindly solved wrt sailfishos :-) | 14:30 |
| AL13N_work | i'm good at educated guessing :-) | 14:30 |
| szopin | :) | 14:31 |
| szopin | never learned what the error msg try to say, just blindly put them into google | 14:32 |
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| szopin | btw, getting: main::scan_file() called too early to check prototype at /usr/bin/aclocal line 617. on each autogen, I'm assuming this is harmless warning | 14:41 |
| szopin | anyone else, or is my setup borked? | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | harmless | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | happens to me too in acceleration | 14:41 |
| szopin | thx | 14:41 |
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| szopin | libtsm complains about libshl which in turn complains about libsystemd-daemon and dbus-1, looks like wlterm is a nogo | 14:43 |
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| HylianSavior | my jolla is sending hundreds of mb of data over 2G... | 15:05 |
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| HylianSavior | anyone have any idea why? | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | HylianSavior: well, check what data it is | 15:05 |
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| Stskeeps | it might be some of your apps | 15:05 |
| HylianSavior | how do i do that? | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | well tcpdump i presume | 15:05 |
| HylianSavior | i suppose | 15:05 |
| ggabriel | ...or start closing applications and see when it stops | 15:05 |
| ggabriel | i'd start with android (if you use it) | 15:06 |
| AL13N_work | btw: i found out that in the /proc/<pid>/ there's also network statistics somewhere :-) | 15:06 |
| ggabriel | aye | 15:06 |
| Nicd- | jolla is doing some magic if it's sending hundreds of megabytes over 2G... <_< | 15:06 |
| AL13N_work | maybe cgroups and network namespaces would help | 15:07 |
| Nicd- | I lose patience trying to download 10 MB over 2G | 15:07 |
| ggabriel | you can also use netstat -apn and check for big s-queues | 15:07 |
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| suy | Sailfish OS is so good that transfers ISOs in miliseconds. \o/ | 15:07 |
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| roboro | yay... I've just uploaded a new version of thesessionfinder app to warehouse... for any trad music fans | 15:12 |
| roboro | many improvements and bug fixes... but you need pyotherside 1.0 to get it to work | 15:12 |
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| roboro | I'll probably update that to a later version of pyotherside after the next release... when I can see whether this makes it into the official repos | 15:14 |
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| chem|st | Stskeeps: it is very interesting to see you weather app update without any internetconnection... | 15:32 |
| Stskeeps | chem|st: nice | 15:33 |
| roboro | how the hell does that happen? | 15:33 |
| mikma | http://i.imgur.com/96t6I9m.gif | 15:33 |
| ggabriel | rotfl | 15:34 |
| roboro | lol | 15:34 |
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| ggabriel | meecast does the same fwiw | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | chem|st: patented technology, it talks to the birds around you.. | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | uses from cache until cache.isEmpty() | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | ...or what Stskeeps says | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | ...or what mikma says | 15:34 |
| roboro | ah... okay... that's pretty smart | 15:35 |
| roboro | of course... info is out of date... but based on the last time it was connected right? | 15:35 |
| ggabriel | thanks to sailfish, i realized i don't need a weather application | 15:35 |
| ggabriel | roboro: that's right | 15:35 |
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| roboro | I just look out of the window... | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | just look at METAR from airports.. | 15:36 |
| ggabriel | roboro: my point exactly | 15:36 |
| ggabriel | *unless* you're after wind speed measurements etc | 15:36 |
| roboro | living in the UK... you can pretty much say: "Its raining" and you will be correct 75% of the time | 15:36 |
| ggabriel | in case you do some kite related sport | 15:36 |
| ggabriel | my weather application now is a bookmark to weather.com, it works fantastically | 15:37 |
| knihti | can i walk into a store and buy jolla? | 15:37 |
| ggabriel | knihti: in finland, yes | 15:37 |
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| knihti | links? | 15:37 |
| ggabriel | search for it... any dna store should have one | 15:38 |
| ggabriel | i have never been to finland, so i wouldn't know | 15:38 |
| ggabriel | i'd call them beforehand to check that they have in stock | 15:38 |
| knihti | right, just wonder they actually have the units psyhically there | 15:39 |
| knihti | *if | 15:39 |
| pp_ | verkkokauppa should have them too | 15:39 |
| ggabriel | just ring the nearest store | 15:39 |
| ggabriel | or shop.jolla.com :D | 15:39 |
| pp_ | verkkokauppa is actually slightly cheaper :-) | 15:40 |
| inffy | knihti, atleast DNA stores do have them in stock | 15:40 |
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| inffy | knihti, verkkokauppa.com has them (three pieces) in Helsinki store | 15:40 |
| inffy | also few on Tampere/Pirkkala | 15:41 |
| inffy | 10euros cheaper than on DNA and JollaShop | 15:41 |
| inffy | http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/37071/drrgs/Jolla-alypuhelin-musta-valkoinen | 15:41 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: interesting that the cache has data from 2h ago but I was not only till just now for like 16h | 15:41 |
| chem|st | online... | 15:42 |
| ggabriel | chem|st: my experience is from meecast in the n9 anyway | 15:42 |
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| ggabriel | i honestly gave up on these applications | 15:42 |
| ggabriel | chem|st: you were the sailor man, right? | 15:42 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: either the cache was that good 16h ago or it updated without having a connection set active | 15:43 |
| knihti | Ok, thanks. Getting my first smartphone so little lost here.. If i buy from operator i need to have contract? | 15:43 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: yes | 15:43 |
| ggabriel | chem|st: i can undertsand why you want an applicatoin then, and what you describe looks like a bug | 15:43 |
| ggabriel | in the n9 is quite consistent | 15:43 |
| ggabriel | it saves ~5 days, i go on holidays for 7, and the 6th says "no data" | 15:43 |
| pp_ | not for jolla at least | 15:43 |
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| inffy | knihti, nope you can buy just the device | 15:44 |
| pp_ | (dna 4g is looking like a fair deal tho, once there's software support I'll strongly consider ) | 15:44 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: I liked the cache on the N9 | 15:44 |
| knihti | inffy: right, thanks, i'll look into it. Linux is cool :-) | 15:44 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: but weather data for sailing I pull generally not from some random webservice | 15:44 |
| ggabriel | chem|st: i can undertsand, yeah | 15:45 |
| szopin | pp_: hopefully should be in the next update | 15:45 |
| Gordon` | do someone know if the intempestive reboots will totally be fixed in next update? | 15:45 |
| szopin | pp_: for now there is a switcher app, but only data when on 4g, so no calls/sms :/ | 15:45 |
| pp_ | yep, tried it with dbus-send and no subscription :-) (and it's a bad idea to try it, might do nasty things wrt the network) | 15:46 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: I'd love to have a proper service at hand (in my pocket) but when it comes to forecast and windspeed I do not trust anyone but my guts and own interpretation of weather maps | 15:46 |
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| Gordon` | My Jolla is kind of unusable now. It works well when SIM card is disabled, but as soon as I enable it, the phone reboots. The fun fact is that if I plug an USB cable in, then SSH and journalctl -f my device, the reboots stop… | 15:46 |
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| ggabriel | chem|st: i'm sure you can buy an ios/android application specific for sailing (similar to what pilots do) | 15:47 |
| ggabriel | but that implies $$$$ | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | Gordon`: send a mail to care@ | 15:47 |
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| Gordon` | Stskeeps: ok | 15:48 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: I would pay for a good app, but not for a system I do not use^^ | 15:48 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: Columbus is still a reason to take my N900 with me sailing | 15:49 |
| ggabriel | chem|st: i hear ya. sadly, i don't have an n900. but i think nokia maps will be the reason i'll keep my n9 for navigating while abroad when there are roaming charges | 15:50 |
| chem|st | +1 | 15:50 |
| chem|st | Jolla is a toy I need to use as a daily phone as the N9's modem is failing | 15:51 |
| ggabriel | :S | 15:51 |
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| chem|st | my N900 will be preserved, I don't want it to die so I keep it unplugged in my desk | 15:52 |
| roboro | my n900 modem packed up... it broke my heart... I had to live with an android phone for a year and a half... horrendous | 15:52 |
| roboro | I still don't know what to do with my n900... everything works except the phone part of it :D | 15:53 |
| chem|st | roboro: I bought a galaxy tab 2... one of the reasons I am with "the first one" movement | 15:53 |
| ggabriel | i don't think any modem ever failed me so far | 15:54 |
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| roboro | its a nightmare... nothing you can do... phone rapidly loses value... you can still use it around the house with wlan... but I have other devices for that sort of stuff | 15:55 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: I used the n9 for navigation lately and for some reason it was like 50m off road with the position after I crossed countries | 15:55 |
| roboro | my n900 just has a ton of music on it and sits in the glove compartment of my car | 15:55 |
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| ggabriel | chem|st: pure gps or agps? | 15:56 |
| chem|st | but well I have a devel phone, and it seems to be preproduction as the glas to carbon interface is actually an edge | 15:56 |
| chem|st | pure gps | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | interesting | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | i don't remember that happening to mine | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | then again, i tried it in amsterdam's streets walking | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | once you got a lock, you got a lock and it was pretty accurate | 15:57 |
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| chem|st | well it happened all for a sudden when I crossed borders from france to germany | 15:57 |
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| chem|st | like it was swapping map sections and never got it right | 15:57 |
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| szopin | or the germans moved the borders again | 16:02 |
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| chem|st | szopin: the streets moved not the border | 16:15 |
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| chem|st | who else is thinking that younited is just another cloudservice noone who actually cares about security ever needs? | 16:16 |
| szopin | might be a trick, push all roads 50m west, and the french thought it was a gps bug | 16:16 |
| chem|st | szopin: you need to move the rhine to do that... not the streets | 16:17 |
| szopin | chem|st: hopefully with cli tool and a few scripts we can make encryption on the fly, with them being in Finland should be plenty safe | 16:17 |
| szopin | chem|st: in the default setup they have access to your files as they say they virus-scan files for you | 16:18 |
| chem|st | my owncloud on my NAS is safe... that is just another "clean lable" | 16:18 |
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| szopin | hmmm Marc tweeted they just wrapped up last 2 months of work, could the update be imminent? | 16:22 |
| ggabriel | very soon indeed | 16:23 |
| szopin | (that was 4h ago, oops) | 16:23 |
| ggabriel | not a jollahq (re)tweet tho | 16:24 |
| Eztran | https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/440849079384702977 One here. | 16:24 |
| Eztran | Not an RT, but a confirmation anyways. | 16:24 |
| ggabriel | cool | 16:25 |
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| szopin | next week? | 16:25 |
| ggabriel | yup | 16:25 |
| szopin | :( | 16:25 |
| ggabriel | you need to master patience, young padawan | 16:25 |
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| roboro | I'm not so phased about waiting for the update... I am sure that as soon as it comes out, there will be at least 10 things that I discover that I still have to wait for in a future update :) | 16:26 |
| ggabriel | me too | 16:27 |
| ggabriel | the good thing is that frequent updates will happen regardless of the beta label | 16:27 |
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| pdanek1 | No FTP client in Warehouse? | 16:27 |
| ggabriel | or at least that's what i understand from the website | 16:27 |
| pdanek1 | Need ftp client on Jolla urgently. :D | 16:27 |
| Yaniel | not in mer-tools etc? | 16:28 |
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| ggabriel | pdanek1: ftp with a ui? or the command line utility? | 16:29 |
| pdanek1 | doesn't really matter | 16:29 |
| pdanek1 | any | 16:29 |
| ggabriel | check mer-tools | 16:29 |
| pdanek1 | ggabriel: not in Warehouse? | 16:30 |
| ggabriel | it isn't there, interesting | 16:30 |
| ggabriel | i don't have warehouse just yet | 16:30 |
| szopin | not in mer-tools | 16:31 |
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| szopin | actually no idea what package would have ftp | 16:31 |
| roboro | mmm install python and then use ftplib if its urgent :) | 16:31 |
| roboro | http://docs.python.org/3/library/ftplib.html | 16:31 |
| Pnuu | or curl | 16:32 |
| pdanek1 | mer tools being installed | 16:32 |
| pdanek1 | ah not in there | 16:32 |
| ggabriel | ah, curl is a good idea | 16:32 |
| pdanek1 | it's a basic thing | 16:32 |
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| roboro | oooh never used curl as an ftp client | 16:32 |
| roboro | http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/320/using-curl-to-access-ftp-server/ | 16:32 |
| pdanek1 | thx | 16:33 |
| * roboro doesn't like ftp anyway :D | 16:33 | |
| roboro | sftp ftw | 16:33 |
| tehdely | been almost a full business day, still no response from jolla care :( | 16:34 |
| szopin | sftp is available | 16:37 |
| stephg | ftp? how 1980s | 16:38 |
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| szopin | 1970s even | 16:41 |
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| szopin | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/overbiteff/ might work in the stock browser for client | 16:44 |
| chem|st | szopin: 80s... | 16:44 |
| szopin | in 80s over tcpip | 16:45 |
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| chem|st | szopin: right but you can probably count the people using it on NCP with two hands | 16:50 |
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| szopin | jolla together app got login support, nice | 17:03 |
| Masmrlar | just updated it, need to check that... | 17:08 |
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| Venemo_ | hey | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps | moo | 18:03 |
| roboro | This cow has superpowers | 18:04 |
| Venemo_ | which cow? | 18:05 |
| roboro | was referring to Stskeeps's moo | 18:06 |
| roboro | the cow reference was to 'apt-get moo' | 18:06 |
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| roboro | This APT has Super Cow Powers. | 18:07 |
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| Pnuu | `cowsay` | 18:07 |
| Venemo_ | :D | 18:07 |
| bencoh | :) | 18:07 |
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| roboro | someone should port cowsay to mer | 18:08 |
| Venemo_ | heh | 18:08 |
| Venemo_ | which binary should have the parameter? | 18:08 |
| roboro | heh | 18:08 |
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| roboro | Venemo_: I'm thinking `which` | 18:10 |
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| roboro | since this all started with you asking 'which cow' | 18:10 |
| walokra | have you mooed today? | 18:11 |
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| roboro | moooooo | 18:11 |
| roboro | right... I have to pop out... see you all later | 18:11 |
| Venemo_ | roboro: lol | 18:11 |
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| Pnuu | milk = cow.pop() | 18:13 |
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| Venemo_ | :D | 18:15 |
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| Jollacz | ircing from my new jolla :) | 18:56 |
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| slate | Which xiaomi was the beta-stage image available? | 19:19 |
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| Stskeeps | mi2s and it's not atm in the early adaptors stuff | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | as it's not a official cyanogenmod build | 19:20 |
| slate | Alright. Is Nexus 5? | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | n4 and sgsiii lte at first | 19:20 |
| Sail0r | update comes next week | 19:21 |
| Sail0r | :) | 19:21 |
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| slate | Stskeeps: okey, thanks. Sold my nexus 4 already, diem. | 19:21 |
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| cxl000 | szopin, I have built libtsm and used it with kmscon and termistor | 19:59 |
| szopin | kmscon works on Jolla? | 19:59 |
| szopin | was hoping to gete wlterm working as it supposedly supports wayland | 19:59 |
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| cxl000 | szopin, Dont know if kmscon would work on Jolla. Termistor is wayland base but I've only used it running Mer on my laptop | 20:05 |
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| szopin | thx will check it out, since hwkbOH is near beginning to look for alternatives to fingerterm | 20:07 |
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| keithzg | Nexus 4 is among the first up? Phew. I finally got my Jolla and I'm finding myself far more won over than I expected (thought I'd still prefer my N9 in many ways, but maybe it's just the fresh experience, but I'm entirely infatuated). And that kindof sucks in a way, since I can only use it as a tiny wifi tablet, heh. | 20:11 |
| cxl000 | szopin, my build environment is carrying a number of uplifted core components so I would suggest doing a branch from other project and rebuilding | 20:13 |
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| szopin | was trying to build libtsm on device, but it complained about libshl, and then this complained about libsystemd-daemon and dbus-1 | 20:13 |
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| szopin | those last two are nowhere to be found in jolla/mer-tools, so most likely will need to try with SDK/desktop | 20:14 |
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| cxl000 | szopin, libshl is part of libtsm. make libshl.la them make. | 20:31 |
| szopin | oh... thanks, will try that | 20:31 |
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| grzywacz | keithzg, why just a tiny wifi tablet? | 20:35 |
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| keithzg | grzywacz: cellular radio doesn't support the frequencies my carrier uses. | 20:36 |
| grzywacz | keithzg, duh, ok :) | 20:37 |
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| szopin_ | cxl000: thanks, that worked | 20:40 |
| * keithzg is tempted to just buy a wifi hotspot and carry it around everywhere with my data sim in it, heh. Although if carrying a messenger bag or backpack, the Nexus 7 (2013 LTE) would work, it seems to last a wonderfully insane amount of time while acting as a hotspot. | 20:43 | |
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| szopin_ | oh wow, wlterm has moved to gkt+ now :) | 20:54 |
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| keithzg | Hmm, my Facebook account requests to be authenticated every time I restart my Jolla, is that expected? | 20:59 |
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| Quu | yes. | 21:00 |
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| kehnoo | really? mine doesn't | 21:01 |
| keithzg | Hrmm. And then all my conversations over Facebook messenger (but via the normal messaging app) complain "Problem with Keith Zubot-Gephart authentication. Check your username and password." even though I've already logged in now. | 21:02 |
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| slate | hello random shutdowns | 21:10 |
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| dwangoAC | Quick question - has the #jolla channel been retired? | 21:14 |
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| grzywacz | One silly thing bothers me. What's the screen that's visible after unlocking the phone for? It doesn't have any cards, just the clock and network name. How can one add something there? | 23:07 |
| Acce | grzywacz: it's called lock screen, and it is not customizable as of yet, at least. it has the pulley menu with some functions, and it shows some notifications on upper left corner for now | 23:09 |
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| grzywacz | Acce, thanks for the explanation | 23:11 |
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| pdanek1 | Does any of you believe Neo900 may actually be better than Jolla when it's released? | 23:18 |
| pdanek1 | Right now, my old N900 is still better than Jolla. | 23:19 |
| pdanek1 | And the browser..... it was so good on N900. | 23:19 |
| pdanek1 | Browser on Jolla is pure pain. | 23:19 |
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| keithzg | Hardware is hard (no pun intended). So while I have hopes for the Neo900, especially since I love hardware keyboards, I don't have high expectations. But i feel like I'm feeding a troll here . . . :P | 23:22 |
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| keithzg | The browser definitely needs work but it's a very worthy cause to have a touchscreen, Qt-based wrapper atop Gecko. And one can always just install the Android version of Firefox if need be. | 23:28 |
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| grzywacz | Is there a significant difference in power draw between native and android apps? I mean, I expect it to be measurable, but is it big enough to justify sticking with the jolla browser instead of getting an opera .apk for example? | 23:36 |
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| tehdely | still no response on my care@ email ;___; | 23:52 |
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