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| Isabella18 | You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 00:04 |
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| Yaniel | why are they only spamming these two channels | 00:05 |
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| Yaniel | these are kind of niche after all | 00:06 |
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| FireFly | It's spammed occasionally in #twitchplayspokemon too if that helps | 00:17 |
| FireFly | ...but no other channels I'm in, surprisingly | 00:17 |
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| canurabus | hi all. does the toolchain that comes with the jolla sdk support c++11? | 00:56 |
| Yaniel | I'm pretty sure it does | 00:57 |
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| canurabus | hmmm. ive run into some weird issues before where compiling a lib or bin with c++11 support and using it against libs compiled *without* c++11 causes all manner of nightmares | 01:05 |
| canurabus | i guess ill just have to try and see | 01:06 |
| Yaniel | there was some magic line you have to add to the pro file for it to compile as c++11 | 01:09 |
| canurabus | QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std=c++11 :p | 01:09 |
| canurabus | i think thats it anyway | 01:09 |
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| Yaniel | I saw another one | 01:10 |
| denexter | ls | 01:14 |
| Yaniel | . | 01:14 |
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| Sandy25 | Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 04:04 |
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| Hannah27 | You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 06:03 |
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| Hannah24 | Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 08:05 |
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| Quu | . | 08:07 |
| Quu | fuck these fucking spambots | 08:07 |
| PeperJohnny | spambots ftl :< | 08:07 |
| Quu | oh great, now it changes IP too | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | i did not expect it jumping to "Hannah" from "Abby" | 08:08 |
| Quu | me neither | 08:08 |
| Quu | erh | 08:08 |
| Pnuu | better to ignore that url | 08:08 |
| Quu | sure sure, but people will click it anyway | 08:09 |
| Quu | and its only this channel where it spams | 08:09 |
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| Pnuu | true :-/ | 08:09 |
| Quu | so its someone from this channel who does it | 08:09 |
| slate | ban all. | 08:10 |
| Quu | easiest would be to ban those 3-5 IP's it uses | 08:10 |
| tbr | btw: the URL expands to something like: ?pk_campaign=irc&pk_kwd=freenode | 08:10 |
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| tbr | so they're targetting all of freenode | 08:10 |
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| Quu | staff could (somewhat) easily add it into shitlist but but. | 08:12 |
| Quu | well, depending on anope-modules they use | 08:12 |
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| TMavica | first time suffer autoshutdown of my jolla.. | 08:17 |
| TMavica | happened 4 times in 1 day | 08:18 |
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| eriolloan | Hi sailors ! does any of you know by any chance the jolla's fedex account number ? I have one day left to return them my device and without this number I'm just stuck….. | 09:00 |
| Waitee | why would you return your device? | 09:00 |
| Waitee | :D | 09:00 |
| eriolloan | because it broke after an hour ? | 09:01 |
| eriolloan | ;) | 09:01 |
| Yaniel | define broke? | 09:01 |
| Waitee | out of money i guess | 09:01 |
| Waitee | ":D" | 09:01 |
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| eriolloan | failed update and no way to access the recovery tool :s | 09:01 |
| eriolloan | I've had help from stskeeps and aard | 09:02 |
| Waitee | oh | 09:02 |
| Waitee | bad luck | 09:02 |
| Waitee | :P | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | eriolloan: you should have gotten a AWB from care | 09:02 |
| eriolloan | yup I did | 09:02 |
| eriolloan | just it's not enough | 09:02 |
| eriolloan | Fedex here says they need the account number of the paty taking charge for the return | 09:03 |
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| eriolloan | maybe I really misunderstood : should I create an account for myself ? | 09:03 |
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| eriolloan | anyway I'm stuck with the airwaybill and no information | 09:04 |
| eriolloan | just that they won't pick it up without an account number. and Jolla Care provided nothing of the sort | 09:05 |
| eriolloan | :( | 09:05 |
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| eriolloan | the AWB being valid until today and having no answer coming from zendesk I'm trying my luck here | 09:07 |
| eriolloan | until tomorow * | 09:07 |
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| Venemo | is there a possibility to respond to user comments on harbour apps? | 09:27 |
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| kontio | Venemo: no currently not | 09:38 |
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| Venemo | kontio: it'd be a great thing! some users have misconceptions about my apps and I'd like to respond to them | 09:43 |
| Venemo | kontio: I tried to write a comment for my app and respond there, but it disappeared :( | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: do they think it's talking to PackageKit? ;) | 09:43 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps: examples: many users think that they can't send puzzle master to the background (you can; you just need to open the game menu first); or many others don't understand the side-pulleys in IRC | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 09:44 |
| Wnt | I have responded to some user comments via Jolla store | 09:45 |
| Wnt | And I have seen some users to comment multiple times to the same application | 09:46 |
| Wnt | Has this changed somehow? | 09:46 |
| Venemo | man, the SDK broke again | 09:48 |
| Venemo | Fatal: SailfishOS-armv7hl is an invalid sb2 target | 09:48 |
| Venemo | WTF | 09:48 |
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| lpotter | I dont update sdk's unless I have too | 09:51 |
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| Venemo | meh, this is ridiculous | 09:54 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps: do you by any chance know what to do with that? | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | ls -al .scratchbox2 | 09:55 |
| Venemo | hm? | 09:56 |
| Venemo | where? | 09:56 |
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| Stskeeps | $HOME | 09:56 |
| Venemo | I don't have ~/.scratchbox2 if that's what you mean | 09:56 |
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| Stskeeps | hmmm | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | i'd expect you to | 09:57 |
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| Venemo | maybe I deleted it, or forgot to copy it over when I last reinstalled the OS | 09:57 |
| Venemo | I didn't expect scratchbox2 to pollute my $HOME, I thought it only stores its stuff on the VM | 09:59 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps: is there a way to fix it? | 10:00 |
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| Stskeeps | Venemo: i would be lying if i said i knew anything of the sdk.. | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | jake9xx_: might know or kaltsi | 10:01 |
| Venemo | jake9xx_, kaltsi: could you please help me with this? | 10:01 |
| Venemo | thanks for the pointer Stskeeps :) | 10:01 |
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| Sophie19 | Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 10:04 |
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| Stskeeps | oh sophie.. | 10:04 |
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| hene- | hmm, not really sfw | 10:06 |
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| Quu | Stskeeps: this too: 95.141.20.196 | 10:11 |
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| zmo | ola! | 10:23 |
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| zmo | it looks like sailfish can't log on my own xmpp accounts | 10:26 |
| zmo | actually I'm not even sure it really tries, even though the fqdn part of my j-id is matching my xmpp server | 10:26 |
| osaton | zmo, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92053 | 10:27 |
| osaton | the ignore-ssl-errors part | 10:28 |
| zmo | how do I access the CLI? | 10:28 |
| zmo | I did not find a term application | 10:28 |
| Raim | it will be installed if you enable developer mode | 10:29 |
| zmo | oh ok, enabling it right away then :-) | 10:29 |
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| zmo | and is there a proper ssh application? | 10:30 |
| sharpneli | Yes. OpenSSH | 10:31 |
| zmo | ahah :) | 10:31 |
| sharpneli | It'll be there when you have the developer terminal available :) | 10:31 |
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| zmo | well, let's see how the terminal looks like first :-) | 10:31 |
| sharpneli | I don't want to give you too much expectations but it's the best terminal ever. | 10:32 |
| zmo | is "allow developer updates" useful? | 10:32 |
| sharpneli | No | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | no,don't touchti | 10:32 |
| sharpneli | That's unstable stuff. | 10:32 |
| zmo | basically it's for install over the air unstable revisions of the OS? | 10:33 |
| sharpneli | zmo: Just imagine. Swiping on the terminal keyboard to the left gives you alt+right which in irssi changes the window. And swiping up and down gives you page up and page down ;) | 10:33 |
| sharpneli | Yes | 10:33 |
| kaltsi | Venemo_j: did you ask for sdk help, please join #sailfisos for that | 10:33 |
| Quu | zmo: yes, but its not working currently and will fuck everything up \o/ | 10:33 |
| zmo | ok, good to know :-) | 10:33 |
| zmo | so basically, it's to be enabled when there's an awesome nighlybuilt that is accidentally stable I guess | 10:34 |
| Quu | basically | 10:35 |
| Quu | iirc they talked something about needing some sort of special account for it | 10:36 |
| Quu | when they get all of it working | 10:36 |
| zmo | wha… the shell is updating my osx terminal with funky icons | 10:36 |
| zmo | (I'm using zsh and my own zshrc for over ten years, so I can easily get impressed by default bash configuration :-p) | 10:37 |
| zmo | I guess now that I'm logged in it's time for me to join #sailfishos :-) | 10:41 |
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| zmo | it's really weird to have the atmosphere page one swipe from the home screen, whereas more useful features are about 3 actions away | 10:52 |
| flux | I really hope it's just a placeholder for some awesome feature people want to use many times a day :) | 10:53 |
| zmo | indeed, that's what I'm hoping as well :-) | 10:53 |
| zmo | also I find it weird to have the radio toggles/brightness in settings | 10:54 |
| kimmoli | zmo: they are talking about tits in #sailfishos | 10:54 |
| Quu | tits. | 10:54 |
| zmo | yeah, if they are talking about tits, I'm coming \o/ | 10:55 |
| zmo | :-p (.)(.) | 10:55 |
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| Venemo_j | kaltsi: ok | 11:07 |
| ln- | Venemo_j: what are the historical reasons why ambience should be spelled ambience and ambiance in TOH specs? | 11:07 |
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| Venemo_j | ln-: how should I know? | 11:14 |
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| ln- | Venemo_j: because of this revision log: https://together.jolla.com/questions/25066/revisions/ | 11:15 |
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| Venemo_j | ln-: I git it from one of the anssers | 11:20 |
| Venemo_j | answers* | 11:20 |
| Venemo_j | ln-: basically, some software was written with one spelling and wasn't renamed according to the marketing name | 11:21 |
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| zmo | ln- - well, the right spelling is ambiance, not ambience anyway | 11:24 |
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| flux | WordNet knows both | 11:24 |
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| ln- | zmo: the "right" according to whom? | 11:25 |
| flux | but if a choice needs to be made, maybe the french spelling would be better, if it is its origin | 11:25 |
| flux | (assuming it is its french spelling) | 11:25 |
| zmo | ln- - as it comes from ambire + antia | 11:25 |
| zmo | antia meaning the "action of" and ambire meaning surrounding | 11:26 |
| ln- | Venemo_j: oh, i missed that part in the answer. however, the answer is confusing, "The marketing name is ambiance" --- no it isn't. | 11:26 |
| zmo | cf http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ambiance | 11:26 |
| zmo | though the french wiktionary is more accurate | 11:26 |
| Quu | its the "color" vs "colour" arguments again :p | 11:27 |
| zmo | Quu - I'm not a native english speaker, so when I got to choose I refer to etymology :-) | 11:28 |
| ln- | the Guide uses "ambience" exclusively, and all instances with 'a' at jolla.com are at tjc. | 11:28 |
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| zmo | Quu - though, I find the color vs colour not really disturbing, but the -ough -> -o a lot more disturbing, especially when I get to read people from both US and UK | 11:30 |
| pp | Marketing should have decided and done internal marketing :-) | 11:30 |
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| zmo | pp - indeed, and they should have used "ympäristö" instead, so no more debate :-p | 11:30 |
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| Quu | haha | 11:31 |
| zmo | and it's not pronounceable by 99% of the world, so people will not complain about that | 11:31 |
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| Quu | true. | 11:31 |
| zmo | (maybe except finish people) | 11:31 |
| zmo | (but they don't complain, they're finish) | 11:31 |
| pp | I've seen similar things happen soooo many times :-) | 11:32 |
| Quu | *finnish | 11:32 |
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| ln- | zmo: you just lost your credibility on spelling advice. | 11:32 |
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| pp | spelling like this is mild, sometimes you notice you're using something culturally sensitive | 11:32 |
| pp | "Oops, we used OSM for our map and country X disagrees with the borders, we have a sales pitch in 15 minutes!" | 11:33 |
| Pnuu | like "tits", those nice little birds :-) | 11:33 |
| zmo | ln- - it's not me, it's my fingers! | 11:33 |
| SpeedEvil | pp: Fix borders, upload to OSM - job done | 11:33 |
| pp | Malicious hackers coming from antartica seems to be a good choice :-) | 11:33 |
| zmo | SpeedEvil - then you have country Y disagreeing | 11:34 |
| SpeedEvil | zmo: yes - but that happens after the presentation - so it doesn't matter. | 11:34 |
| zmo | think of south morocco/north mauritania/western sahara | 11:35 |
| zmo | or north japan/russia and the Kuril islands | 11:37 |
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| zmo | or UK/Argentina and the falklands | 11:37 |
| zmo | … | 11:37 |
| svuorela | or DK/Canada and Hans Ø | 11:38 |
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| Venemo_j | ln-: maybe they improved it since | 11:54 |
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| vatte | service was really fast, Jolla had arrived back to DNA store already yesterday after taking it there last friday | 13:18 |
| ggabriel | the joys of being in finland :D | 13:18 |
| ggabriel | btw, i took the phone for a ride yesterday, first time after update | 13:19 |
| vatte | they had changed battery, sim card holder and I guess reflashed it, hopefully this solves the problem :) | 13:19 |
| ggabriel | and it was quite buggy :) | 13:19 |
| ggabriel | nothing that a reboot wouldn't fix | 13:19 |
| ggabriel | but buggy nonetheless | 13:19 |
| vatte | ggabriel: what kind of bugs did you encounter? | 13:19 |
| ggabriel | 2 | 13:19 |
| ggabriel | 1. the internet was gone, even though it was connected to the network | 13:19 |
| ggabriel | it wouldn't connect to 3g | 13:19 |
| ggabriel | reboot and problem solved | 13:19 |
| ggabriel | 2. started the maps application, and i lost the side swipes (pull) | 13:20 |
| Nicd- | I just had my first shutdown for 3 days | 13:20 |
| ggabriel | so it was very difficult to multitask | 13:20 |
| ggabriel | reobot and was gone | 13:20 |
| ggabriel | it never shut down or anything | 13:20 |
| Nicd- | actually 3 days 17 hours, that's my new uptime record | 13:20 |
| ggabriel | i was on the road, so didn't bother to get logs etc etc | 13:20 |
| vatte | Nicd-: nice (kinda :P) | 13:20 |
| ggabriel | if it happens again, i'll do a sudo journalctl > stateofaffairs.log :) | 13:21 |
| Nicd- | vatte: I'm leaning on sad | 13:21 |
| vatte | I'm happy to have it fixed, especially the sim card disconnecting issue was definitely a hardware fault | 13:21 |
| vatte | fingers crossed that shutdowns don't reappear | 13:22 |
| vatte | for both of us... | 13:22 |
| vatte | then to figure out how to connect arduino to the other half | 13:24 |
| Pnuu | attiny flasher TOH | 13:26 |
| vatte | I wonder if the i2c on jolla can take 3.3v | 13:27 |
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| ggabriel | vatte: there are specs for that | 13:32 |
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| vatte | ggabriel: it's rated at 1.8v but I haven't seen specs for what it tolerates | 13:34 |
| vatte | but probably good to build a level shifter | 13:34 |
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| ggabriel | my knowledge of electronics is pretty much null | 13:34 |
| ggabriel | but i wouldn't risk it :) | 13:34 |
| ggabriel | i have pugged in 110v into a 220v socket in the past and the result wasn't that good ;) | 13:35 |
| vatte | :) | 13:35 |
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| kimmoli | use level converter. | 15:03 |
| TheBootroo_work | yeah | 15:04 |
| TheBootroo_work | my app Feed'me is finally published on harbour | 15:04 |
| TheBootroo_work | !! | 15:04 |
| Merbot | TheBootroo_work: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 15:04 |
| TheBootroo_work | Merbot: shut up you stupid bot | 15:05 |
| Merbot | TheBootroo_work: Error: "shut" is not a valid command. | 15:05 |
| TheBootroo_work | x-) | 15:05 |
| Nicd- | err | 15:05 |
| Nicd- | what's the point of that? | 15:05 |
| TheBootroo_work | Nicd-: of what ? | 15:05 |
| Nicd- | Merbot | 15:06 |
| Nicd- | does it do anything useful? | 15:06 |
| TheBootroo_work | yeah i dunno what this bot is meant to | 15:06 |
| TheBootroo_work | Merbot: help | 15:06 |
| Merbot | TheBootroo_work: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. | 15:06 |
| kimmoli | vatte: suggested reading http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92329 | 15:06 |
| TheBootroo_work | Merbot: list | 15:06 |
| Merbot | TheBootroo_work: Admin, Bugtracker, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Karma, MeetBot, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Notify, Owner, Quote, QuoteGrabs, RSS, Seen, and User | 15:06 |
| Nicd- | it should shut up if somethig is not a valid command | 15:07 |
| Nicd- | and just ignore it | 15:07 |
| Pnuu | I've never seen a useful bot | 15:09 |
| tbr | TheBootroo_work: stop messing with the bot, ktxbai | 15:10 |
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| TheBootroo_work | tbr: i can haz smart bot plz ? | 15:10 |
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| tbr | TheBootroo_work: no, but you can have a kickban from Stskeeps or lbt | 15:10 |
| Pnuu | for what? :-P | 15:11 |
| ggabriel | Pnuu: never seen a useful bot?! | 15:11 |
| TheBootroo_work | tbr: for saying shut up to a stupid bot ? that's quite unfair | 15:11 |
| ggabriel | < gab> !coin | 15:11 |
| ggabriel | < Helga> gab: heads | 15:11 |
| Pnuu | ggabriel: never | 15:11 |
| ggabriel | dude, look at that | 15:11 |
| ggabriel | do you know how many binary decisions i've made thanks to that? :) | 15:11 |
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| tbr | also that bot is responsible for creating public logs of this channel. I can see this being useful to some people. | 15:12 |
| Pnuu | ggabriel: 10 | 15:12 |
| ggabriel | true | 15:12 |
| ggabriel | (logs i mean) | 15:12 |
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| ggabriel | depends how you write the plugins i guess | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | bot stays | 15:12 |
| ggabriel | and you can switch off the responses | 15:12 |
| ggabriel | all this reminds me i need to fix my bot | 15:13 |
| ggabriel | python can be annoying sometimes | 15:13 |
| Morpog_Jolla_ | new irc update in store :) | 15:13 |
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| Nicd- | tbr: I would say it should not say "not a valid command"... doing nothing should be an indication in itself | 15:14 |
| Morpog_Jolla_ | with settings \O/ | 15:14 |
| tbr | Nicd-: I can lobotomize it for this channel. there are channels where this is required. | 15:14 |
| Nicd- | strange channels | 15:15 |
| tachikoma | is it not possible to just ignore the bot if it anoys you? | 15:15 |
| tbr | although that will mean that you can not look up mer/nemo bugs anymore AFAIUC | 15:15 |
| tbr | Nicd-: #mer-meeting ... | 15:15 |
| * kimmoli adds bookmark here | 15:15 | |
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| ggabriel | tbr: uhm... i think you can just turn off those errors | 15:16 |
| ggabriel | it isn't important, otherwise i'd look it up | 15:16 |
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| Stskeeps | https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/436158865436987392/photo/1 | 15:24 |
| Stskeeps | bets on who's desk it is, is welcome.. | 15:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:24 |
| * tbr knows that desk | 15:25 | |
| ggabriel | is that an ibm keyboard? | 15:25 |
| Azog | where is this desk? | 15:25 |
| tbr | in ruoholahti | 15:26 |
| Azog | club mate exports from .de to .fi *g* it is just a small brewery | 15:26 |
| tbr | they sell it at quite high prices in finland | 15:26 |
| tbr | 3.5-4.5€ a bottle | 15:27 |
| ggabriel | lol, club mate | 15:27 |
| ggabriel | so, that's in .de? | 15:27 |
| ggabriel | oh, right | 15:27 |
| ggabriel | fizzy mate is too weird | 15:27 |
| ggabriel | when you grew up in argentina :) | 15:27 |
| tbr | still need to get me one of those mate mugs and 'straws' some day | 15:27 |
| pp | :-) | 15:28 |
| pp | mate <3 | 15:28 |
| pp | (damn expensive habit, tho) | 15:28 |
| ggabriel | tbr: that can be arranged | 15:28 |
| tbr | "Mate, you get used to it" | 15:28 |
| ggabriel | tbr: but do you get the herbs? (yerba) | 15:28 |
| tbr | ggabriel: I know some stores in poland where I can get both. Haven't checked the availability in .fi yet. | 15:28 |
| ggabriel | right, much closer then | 15:29 |
| ggabriel | i've got a pumpkin "mug" | 15:29 |
| Azog | the brewery is here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/49.6370/10.5910 a really small town in the middle of nowhere | 15:29 |
| tbr | quite a few of my colleagues in poland have developed a mate habit | 15:29 |
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| ggabriel | mate has caffeine | 15:29 |
| ggabriel | that's why | 15:29 |
| ggabriel | :) | 15:29 |
| ggabriel | tbr: do they share with the same straw? | 15:30 |
| tbr | ggabriel: everyone has their own mug and straw though | 15:30 |
| ggabriel | i thought so :) | 15:30 |
| ggabriel | i used to share and evreything with friends in the uk | 15:30 |
| ggabriel | and everybody thought we were taking drugs | 15:30 |
| ggabriel | which was quite funny | 15:30 |
| tbr | :) | 15:31 |
| tbr | I think I haven't seen a pumpkin (or other fruit) mug at the office. All seemed to be stoneware. | 15:31 |
| ggabriel | they don't look lke pumpkin | 15:31 |
| ggabriel | they're made of it | 15:31 |
| ggabriel | and the taste lasts 3-6 months | 15:31 |
| ggabriel | but it's quite nice | 15:32 |
| ggabriel | wooden are the classic ones | 15:32 |
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| ggabriel | trouble is that thye may break/leak/etc | 15:32 |
| ggabriel | reminds me i need to buy yerba | 15:32 |
| ggabriel | i'm missing my saturday/sunday mate | 15:32 |
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| Quu | i am not your mate, pal | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | i'm not your pal, buddy | 15:34 |
| tbr | so right said fred were singing about the drink... | 15:35 |
| cvp | kimmoli: you here ??? | 15:36 |
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| louisdk | Anyone living in Finland that would be able to receive two phone cases and forward them to me? Living in Denmark. | 16:34 |
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| ccha2 | my jolla buggy. red led binding | 16:59 |
| tbr | you jolla empty. you charge. | 16:59 |
| ccha2 | red led stopped | 16:59 |
| tanghus | I would *really* appreciate it if harbour dashboard would soon be functional... | 17:00 |
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| ccha2 | tbr: no it was just after 3G buggy and there are alot messages about fail connections | 17:01 |
| ccha2 | then I switched to wlan, and so setting screen freeze | 17:02 |
| ccha2 | and red led | 17:02 |
| tbr | well you should have mentioned that in the first place then | 17:02 |
| ccha2 | now after rebooted, 13% battery | 17:02 |
| ccha2 | someone already got the case ? | 17:03 |
| ggabriel | ccha2: i had weird troubles yesterday with a 3g connection, but no connection problem, no battery drain | 17:04 |
| ggabriel | so, i dunno | 17:04 |
| ggabriel | a reboot helped | 17:05 |
| ggabriel | no red led either | 17:05 |
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| ccha2 | that's second time for me | 17:05 |
| ggabriel | well, yesterday was the 1st time i take it out for a ride since the update | 17:06 |
| ggabriel | the rest of the time, on wlan, it worked very well | 17:06 |
| ggabriel | conman may need some extra luv | 17:06 |
| ccha2 | the 1st time, while red led, i removed battery, then the device did boot loop. I fixed it with the recovery brtfs | 17:07 |
| ggabriel | why remove battery? | 17:07 |
| ggabriel | doesn't a really long power press do the trick? | 17:07 |
| ccha2 | red led for so long | 17:07 |
| ccha2 | and screen is dark | 17:07 |
| ggabriel | yeah, red led means "we're still here" | 17:07 |
| ggabriel | so, power button didn't work? | 17:08 |
| ccha2 | nope | 17:08 |
| ggabriel | interesting | 17:08 |
| ccha2 | but this time is work | 17:08 |
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| ccha2 | and still dark screen so you don't know if it's stopping or not | 17:09 |
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| ccha2 | last time I wait long time and still red led | 17:09 |
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| ccha2 | today, after few minutes, it stopped | 17:09 |
| ggabriel | i had a dark screen today, no red led, which i fixed by pushing from the top (like closing an application) | 17:10 |
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| ggabriel | that used to happen before the latest update | 17:10 |
| ccha2 | it happened for me after the lastes update | 17:12 |
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| ccha2 | no problem before | 17:12 |
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| lokimotive | hey | 17:19 |
| Acce | hello | 17:20 |
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| AMD_ | pst. its AMD | 17:40 |
| Stskeeps | woo, AMD | 17:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:41 |
| AMD_ | i could've joined earlier but school :v | 17:42 |
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| louisdk | It's pretty difficult to scroll down: http://i.imgur.com/UbTrsLC.png :/ | 17:46 |
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| JUJames_ | AMD_: sup. | 17:47 |
| AMD_ | JUJames_: nm and u | 17:48 |
| AMD_ | oohhh a lot of TMO guys here | 17:48 |
| JUJames_ | a LOT! | 17:48 |
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| AMD_ | and thedead is even here... oh god this is gonna be fun | 17:50 |
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| JUJames_ | :D | 17:54 |
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| Stskeeps | no tmo trolling here :( | 17:55 |
| Sail0r | lol | 17:56 |
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| ggabriel | !google define troll | 17:57 |
| Merbot | ggabriel: Error: "google" is not a valid command. | 17:57 |
| ggabriel | argh :) | 17:57 |
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| AMD_ | no no tmo trolling dont worry | 18:01 |
| AMD_ | it was just heart-warming to see his name here ^_^ | 18:01 |
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| thedead1440 | lol | 18:13 |
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| chem|st | Stskeeps: my sister has a bricked device, she is now in on telnet - any advice? | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | what version and how did it brick | 18:32 |
| chem|st | 3.8 | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | there's an item for btrfs fix isn't there | 18:32 |
| chem|st | it is gone into bootloop and was found dead | 18:32 |
| chem|st | yes btrfs recovery | 18:32 |
| Yaniel | aka factory reset | 18:33 |
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| Stskeeps | chem|st: select that one first | 18:34 |
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| chem|st | Stskeeps: is there any way to get the .vault moved first? | 18:35 |
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| Stskeeps | this isn't a factory reset, but yes, you can access a shell too | 18:35 |
| Sail0r | why do the phones get brick? | 18:37 |
| Morpog_Jolla_ | i guess filesystem corruption | 18:37 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: any harm going to the shell and try to recover the vault first? | 18:38 |
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| Stskeeps | chem|st: no, but you might need some hands-on magic | 18:38 |
| chem|st | like? | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | well, you get a busybox shell and that's it | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:38 |
| chem|st | does btrfs recovery reset the phone? | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | no | 18:39 |
| chem|st | so busybox built-in only | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | it just fixes the fs | 18:39 |
| chem|st | ah ok so we might just try that first then | 18:39 |
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| Sail0r | why does the filesystem corruption occur? Unclean shutdown? Running out of space? | 18:39 |
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| Morpog_Jolla_ | welo btrfs isn't the oldest fs out there i would say ;) | 18:40 |
| Morpog_Jolla_ | well | 18:40 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: so try recover btrfs first - then busybox - then factory reset? | 18:40 |
| Yaniel | it's still said to be a bit uh, unstable | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | chem|st: aye | 18:41 |
| chem|st | Sail0r: it might be that the device ran out of battery | 18:41 |
| Sail0r | ok | 18:41 |
| Sail0r | that might be a reason | 18:41 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: thankyou | 18:41 |
| louisdk | Hi. It would be nice if a person living in Finland could receive 2 Jolla cases for me and ship them to Denmark. I'll cover all cost and I have a 50€ voucher for a Jolla Phone I can give in return. | 18:41 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: that is another issue - at about 30% the phone might shutdown or even just die | 18:42 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: it booted again | 18:42 |
| chem|st | battery says 93% wtf? | 18:43 |
| Morpog_Jolla_ | chem|st: that never happened to me. Sounds like a faulty battery? | 18:43 |
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| chem|st | Morpog_Jolla_: that happened to several people now, they claim that it depends on temperature, what I do not buy | 18:44 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: my sister says thank you very much! | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | chem|st: after that, turn off device properly, take battery out 10 minutes | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | and back in | 18:44 |
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| chem|st | Stskeeps: in progress | 18:45 |
| salami` | louisdk: check pm | 18:45 |
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| chem|st | Stskeeps: seems fine now, seems it charges the battery in that recovery state | 19:00 |
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| * kimmoli started sdk. time to code. | 19:04 | |
| Jope | :-) | 19:04 |
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| chem|st | Stskeeps: I had to reinstall all android stuff and after I did so I had the upgrade pending again, on console it updated previously held back nokia-here things ofono and two others I do not remember | 19:11 |
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| louisdk | It is possible to sync the Nokia N9 and the Jolla Phone? | 19:22 |
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| chem|st | louisdk: yeah but do not expect to much | 19:24 |
| chem|st | louisdk: I have several contacts not synched properly or not synched at all | 19:25 |
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| Skorpy | ^ | 19:25 |
| bentz | hi | 19:26 |
| Skorpy | Better results by exporting contacts into files and importing them to jolla. (even faster is to combine the contact files to one file and then import) | 19:26 |
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| Yaniel | can haz caldav & carddav in next update? ^^ | 19:28 |
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| louisdk | <chem|st: Okay. i think I'll not do it that way then. | 19:29 |
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| vatte | kimmoli: cheers! | 19:34 |
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| * kimmoli is here :) | 19:40 | |
| kimmoli | assuming cvp is not here anymore, it was old yell.. | 19:41 |
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| Mya29 | Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 20:03 |
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| Venemo | ok, this is ridiculous | 20:08 |
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| Venemo | jolla behaves extremely erratically on low-battery conditions | 20:09 |
| Venemo | and refuses to turn on while charging | 20:09 |
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| Morpog_PC | venemo, use a stronger charger | 20:12 |
| Morpog_PC | 2A | 20:12 |
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| Venemo | I tried charging with my laptop, then plugged it into the one that came with it and waited until it charget to 5% - it still couldn't turn on | 20:12 |
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| Venemo | I know, patience is a virtue, but why can't it turn on while charging? | 20:13 |
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| Venemo | my last attempt resulted in a black screen and a blinkind red LED | 20:14 |
| Venemo | sorry | 20:14 |
| Venemo | it was green | 20:14 |
| Venemo | my last attempt resulted in a black screen and a blinkind green LED | 20:15 |
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| Venemo | now took out the battery for a minute and plugged in the charger once again - it booted a few seconds later by itself. now it reports that the battery is at 15% and | 20:15 |
| Venemo | hm | 20:15 |
| Venemo | isn't it a bit early for the battery to die already? | 20:16 |
| raa79 | latest update did something | 20:17 |
| raa79 | idle consumption around 2%/h now, before update something like .3% | 20:17 |
| Morpog_PC | my N9 also didn't start with low battery on N9 charger | 20:17 |
| raa79 | with tohd.service disabled | 20:17 |
| Morpog_PC | but with that asus nexus 7 charger it always started | 20:18 |
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| raa79 | 2A charger? | 20:18 |
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| Venemo | actually, idle power consumption is quite okay for me (most of the time) | 20:20 |
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| Venemo | LOL @ this http://www.jollausers.com/2014/02/image-what-is-jolla-trying-to-tell-us/ | 20:59 |
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| FireFly | Haha | 21:03 |
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| ggabriel | i knew it was an ibm kbd | 21:07 |
| M4rtinK | oh, model M, nice :) | 21:07 |
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| JUJames_ | Venemo: Y U laugh at my post? :D | 21:07 |
| ggabriel | u cant type without the clack man | 21:07 |
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| ggabriel | the ancient kbd remark is funny | 21:08 |
| JUJames_ | ikr :D well as it turned out it's a Commodore | 21:08 |
| ggabriel | source? | 21:09 |
| Venemo | JUJames_: my favourite is your remark about the keyboard | 21:09 |
| ggabriel | where is the run stop key? | 21:09 |
| JUJames_ | if you manage to find a high res version of that pic (hint: JollaHQ twitter post) and you zoom in you can see the Commodore under the num/caps/scroll lock | 21:10 |
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| JUJames_ | my eyes might as well be wrong!!: | 21:10 |
| Viskari | i finf the google letter in the n9 box intriguing | 21:10 |
| JUJames_ | yes there's that google letter too! | 21:11 |
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| tbr | the photo probably also confirms HalfLife3 if you look closely... | 21:11 |
| JUJames_ | LOL | 21:11 |
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| Venemo | JUJames_: some time you should take a look at my desk, I'd be curious about the conclusions you'd draw | 21:12 |
| JUJames_ | Venemo: hey sure thing :D I may go too far... like my post :P | 21:13 |
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| Venemo | JUJames_: here's a teaser: https://twitter.com/Venemo/status/418872705182875648 | 21:18 |
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| attah | A water glass!!! This guy is going for world domination :) | 21:19 |
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| Venemo | attah: not only a water glass, a big mug! with fruit pics on it!!!!! | 21:20 |
| attah | That's some kinky shit right there.. but hey.. whatever floats your goat. | 21:21 |
| Venemo | attah: hm? | 21:21 |
| kimmoli | so where comparing desks here? | 21:22 |
| attah | Fruits on a mug.. | 21:23 |
| Venemo | attah: to my defence, it was the only big mug at the shop | 21:23 |
| Venemo | btw, I just noticed that actually all of my important gadgets are on the pic | 21:23 |
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| attah | :) | 21:25 |
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| attah | My desk is too disorganized to show :( partly because i'm lazy and partly because I'm building a cnc machine on the other half of it.. | 21:27 |
| kimmoli | attah: want to see the CNC thing... | 21:28 |
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| kimmoli | we are building one with my bro too... but it takes whole room | 21:28 |
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| Stskeeps | my desk contains the future of sailfishos | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:30 |
| Jope | hehheh | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | sekret | 21:30 |
| Jope | I'm enjoying your conspiracy theories regarding my desk immensely :-D | 21:30 |
| attah | We are :) | 21:31 |
| Stskeeps | Jope: next up: people claiming you're lying when you say it's your desk | 21:31 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:31 |
| JUJames_ | Venemo: that's a good one. I'll make a special post about it :P | 21:31 |
| Jope | Stskeeps: hehe yep, they'll just have to take my word for it :-D | 21:31 |
| AL13N | Stskeeps: hmm, the future of sailfishos? i'm curious | 21:31 |
| attah | Kimmoli: cool project.. mine is more moderate.. pic coming | 21:31 |
| Jope | then again stezz confirmed it on twitter too so I can safely come out of the closet | 21:31 |
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| Quu | everyone comes out of closet nowdays | 21:32 |
| Quu | its so mainstream even hipsters became straight | 21:32 |
| Jope | hehe | 21:32 |
| Jope | straight is the new queer? :-D | 21:33 |
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| attah | kimmoli: http://imgur.com/nP7ykGV | 21:34 |
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| kimmoli | looks similar... | 21:35 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps :) | 21:35 |
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| attah | what tool are you going for..? I'm thinking laser :) | 21:37 |
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| kimmoli | attah: this is my desk, http://avaa.se/UVbfSH and this is one axis from our project http://avaa.se/afcmeg | 21:38 |
| AL13N | the quadcopter TOH!!!! | 21:38 |
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| AL13N | kimmoli: tell me you have it! | 21:39 |
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| raa79 | =) | 21:39 |
| kimmoli | lmao | 21:39 |
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| AL13N | kimmoli: don't lie to me, i've seen the pics | 21:40 |
| attah | kimmoli: cool! looks sturdy enough for a really high-power mill | 21:40 |
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| attah | now i just need to convince someone to 3d-print some brackets for me so i can put the last pieces together | 21:46 |
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| attah | CNC-TOH? | 21:52 |
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| kimmoli | i would like to have (make) post-it label printer toh... | 21:53 |
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| attah | so you also do scrum at work? :P | 21:54 |
| kimmoli | you place phone on top of something, and it prints something on postit label and attachs it to what it is on top of... | 21:55 |
| kimmoli | :) | 21:55 |
| attah | kimmoli: related: http://littleprinter.com/#!prettyPhoto | 21:58 |
| Jope | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nicholasclewis/inkshield-an-open-source-inkjet-shield-for-arduino | 21:58 |
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| Jope | http://spritesmods.com/?art=inker | 21:59 |
| attah | ^nice | 22:01 |
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| kehnoo | not nice, he ruins pint of guinness :( | 22:02 |
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| attah | but i'm keeping my $$ for a NFC powered eink display.. would be great for recipes for the kitchen | 22:03 |
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| Tiffany18 | Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 22:03 |
| attah | that's no printer | 22:04 |
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| Yaniel | umm Stskeeps I don't think you can take a female name dictionary and programmatically ban all entries? | 22:05 |
| Yaniel | no, it is a lame redirect (joke's on whoever, curl does not follow those by default) | 22:05 |
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| kimmoli | attah: i think i have some progress on eink toh during Devaamo JHD on sat. at least i will bring all the relevan stuff with me there | 22:08 |
| Yaniel | oh right, that was this weekend too -.- | 22:08 |
| attah | Nice :) Problem is.. I'm in sweden.. | 22:09 |
| kimmoli | but you will see atleast pics of it :) | 22:09 |
| attah | :) | 22:09 |
| * Yaniel pondering wether to cancel plans for hackday or $plans | 22:10 | |
| attah | (i was thinking separate from the Jolla, although that would also deal with the same problem) | 22:11 |
| attah | g'night guys! | 22:15 |
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| chem|st | so I jsut merged my 400 contacts and found out that not the move N9 > jolla did mess things up but the move to the N9 from N900... duplicate entries... (not contacts but like phonenumbers three times with different types) | 22:34 |
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| chem|st | empty fields from agregate services like facebook or jabber do still kill the view | 22:35 |
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| artemma | Spotify inspired unlike app store: Pay $5 a month, get all apps you can eat, payment "fairly" distributed to the authors of apps you used - https://together.jolla.com/question/29216/unlike-app-store-payments-all-you-can-eat-with-developer-income-depending-on-popularity/ | 23:37 |
| artemma | what do you think? | 23:37 |
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| Yaniel | requires more user tracking than many are willing to accept I'm afraid | 23:39 |
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| artemma | true, yet if major app vendors come to Jolla (and Jolla hopes for it certainly), you'll get lots of tracking anyway | 23:40 |
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