| Slimex | hehe | 00:00 |
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| clau2 | well, I will definitely donate something to coderus. | 00:01 |
| Slimex | yep, "application engine stopprd unexpectedly" | 00:01 |
| clau2 | 0.1-29 ? | 00:02 |
| Slimex | 28 | 00:02 |
| clau2 | update. | 00:02 |
| clau2 | otherwise you have no right to complain :) | 00:03 |
| Slimex | impossible, killing also is out of question | 00:03 |
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| clau2 | I've installed Crest, it's easier to kill apps from it. | 00:03 |
| Slimex | wow, this thing just reborns again and again | 00:03 |
| Slimex | yes | 00:03 |
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| Slimex | i also used crest | 00:04 |
| Aoyagi | Back again, unremembered! \o/ | 00:04 |
| clau2 | ok, I'm out guys. good night everyone | 00:04 |
| Slimex | well, time to uninstall | 00:04 |
| Slimex | gn clau2 | 00:04 |
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| Aoyagi | This place used to be a lot less crowded :/ | 00:05 |
| Aoyagi | Anyway, are there any official statements regarding future devices? | 00:05 |
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| Slimex | lol, MitäKuuluu 0.1-29 install only manually | 01:08 |
| Slimex | or having 28 already installed | 01:09 |
| vesurivs | i installed it from warehouse | 01:09 |
| vesurivs | but didnt have an old version | 01:10 |
| Slimex | didn't work | 01:10 |
| vesurivs | well, the warehouse app itself is quite unstable, crashing when trying to install something etc | 01:10 |
| Slimex | yes that too needs an upgrade | 01:11 |
| Slimex | search is a joke | 01:11 |
| Slimex | doesn't find anything | 01:12 |
| Slimex | and buggy, text only half visible | 01:13 |
| Slimex | (what you type in) | 01:14 |
| Slimex | if only developers would be as quality oriented as the maker of this irc client /rant | 01:19 |
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| Acce | Slimex: Still, can you complain if you get it for free and don't contribute to it? ;) | 01:20 |
| Slimex | ahh, I was eaiting for this | 01:21 |
| Slimex | waiting* | 01:21 |
| Acce | and what did you think as your reply? :) | 01:21 |
| Slimex | well as I always do, if you suspect something... inspect it | 01:22 |
| Acce | hmm | 01:23 |
| Acce | well | 01:23 |
| Slimex | it's that little spec in the corner of your eye speed reading your code | 01:24 |
| Acce | I haven't used mitäkuuluu so no idea what's wrong it | 01:24 |
| Slimex | it's made by a guy who does things without jolla | 01:25 |
| Yaniel | +a | 01:25 |
| Slimex | so he has no real idea, what to expect | 01:26 |
| Slimex | sdk and irl are two different things | 01:26 |
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| Slimex | anyway, quite ambitious project from yappari sources to sailfish-whatsapp | 01:27 |
| Slimex | and no jolla device | 01:28 |
| Slimex | :) | 01:28 |
| Slimex | btw fuck android-app | 01:29 |
| Acce | well, I'm lucky to live in a world without whatsapp | 01:29 |
| Slimex | well, I would've been in the same situation, but somebody decided otherwise... :/ | 01:31 |
| Slimex | anyway... gn y'all and happy sailing! | 01:32 |
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| genjix | i just built the default app in qt creator and it appears in virtualbox | 01:53 |
| genjix | how can i deploy this on the phone for testing? | 01:53 |
| genjix | can i copy it using ssh or what | 01:53 |
| Acce | on the qtcreator left panel | 01:53 |
| Acce | choose projects | 01:54 |
| Yaniel | deploy by building rpm | 01:54 |
| Acce | and add arm7hl build | 01:54 |
| Yaniel | copy that over | 01:54 |
| Acce | the rpm for the emulator won't work on the device, so make sure you choose the arm7hl target | 01:54 |
| genjix | ok thanks! | 01:55 |
| Acce | you're welcome | 01:56 |
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| genjix | where can i add arm7hl? | 01:56 |
| genjix | ahh Add Kit | 01:56 |
| genjix | ok i have the binary? where do i copy it to on the phone to be able to run it? | 01:59 |
| genjix | or how do i run it on the phone? | 01:59 |
| genjix | im guessing i have to do more than scp untitled nemo@192.168.1.135:/usr/bin/ | 02:00 |
| Acce | well, you can copy it anywhere, your home folder should be safe | 02:01 |
| Acce | buut, you might want to build the rpm | 02:01 |
| genjix | ahh can i run it from inside the jolla terminal? | 02:01 |
| Acce | click the kit, choose "deploy by building rpm" | 02:01 |
| Acce | or "deploy by copying rpm" | 02:01 |
| genjix | i ran it from the jolla terminal and i just see a blank white screen | 02:02 |
| Acce | latter installs the rpm and runs it on your device | 02:02 |
| genjix | Acce, i'd rather have a binary because it's easier to run when i'm developing | 02:03 |
| genjix | rather than building an rpm and reinstalling constantly | 02:03 |
| Acce | ok, did you copy your qml files too? or do you use them | 02:03 |
| genjix | ahhh ok i need the data files | 02:03 |
| Acce | yeah | 02:04 |
| genjix | ok great | 02:04 |
| Acce | put them to ../share/appname/ | 02:04 |
| Acce | where the path is relative to your binary | 02:04 |
| genjix | ok | 02:04 |
| Acce | that way, you can also just copy your updated qml files, if the binary is the same | 02:05 |
| genjix | ok | 02:05 |
| genjix | wow works! | 02:07 |
| genjix | thanks for your guidance Acce | 02:07 |
| Acce | you're welcome :) happy developing! | 02:07 |
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| AL13N | i filed some browser bugs | 08:20 |
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| narchie | so | 09:24 |
| narchie | whats going on | 09:24 |
| narchie | double tap to open lock makes the led blink green | 09:25 |
| narchie | screen doesn open | 09:25 |
| narchie | ?_? | 09:25 |
| Waitee | try the power button | 09:26 |
| Waitee | btw my friends lumia got the double tap to open screen in the latest update :D | 09:26 |
| Waitee | oh you microsoft | 09:26 |
| narchie | how transparent | 09:27 |
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| clau | Waitee, it's older than the last update. | 09:27 |
| narchie | Waitee: works again, had somethin to do with connection | 09:27 |
| clau | Waitee, also, there's a sort of N9 like low power mode. | 09:27 |
| Waitee | :D | 09:28 |
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| Waitee | though it isnt technically copying since nokia phones before had double tap stuff | 09:28 |
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| clau | it doesn't matter if it's copying, if there's no patent, right? | 09:29 |
| clau | but I have no idea if there is :) | 09:29 |
| Waitee | juridically yeah | 09:29 |
| Waitee | no idea either :D | 09:29 |
| narchie | well it's all for the better | 09:29 |
| narchie | if someone steals a good idea | 09:29 |
| narchie | though it's just amusing | 09:30 |
| clau | I remember that Jolla got access to Nokia patents though | 09:30 |
| Waitee | nokia bridge helps startups | 09:30 |
| Waitee | no idea if they got access to nokia patents but at least they get financial support from nokia | 09:30 |
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| TMavica | any temporaily solution when swiping bugged except reboot the phone?? | 10:26 |
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| Waitee | TMavica_: how it bugged? | 10:27 |
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| Stskeeps | TMavica: power button once and twice | 10:29 |
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| TMavica | homescreen sudden cant swipe left or right or down inside the apps | 10:34 |
| TMavica | known bugs | 10:34 |
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| ShadowJK | whoah, communi font size is enormous | 12:58 |
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| Yaniel | larger than usually? | 13:00 |
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| ShadowJK | also not fixed-width :( | 13:03 |
| ShadowJK | dunno, but i had more usable space for irc in 2006 on a 320x480 screen, iirc :P | 13:04 |
| ShadowJK | this is approx 30x11 chars | 13:05 |
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| vatte | apparently copy-paste doesn't work between browser and irc | 13:09 |
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| ShadowJK | I'm not sure I've successfully copy pasted... | 13:09 |
| vatte | but I just found out about jolla.com/the-other-half-developer-kit :) Can't wait to start experimenting | 13:10 |
| vatte | oops, I mean between browser and terminal | 13:11 |
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| ShadowJK | terminal, native, android. Paste barriers around them | 13:12 |
| vatte | yeah, I noticed that about android earlier | 13:13 |
| ShadowJK | i haven't checked since lasr update, but if you download a file with android browser, android pdf reader doesn't have permission to open the file | 13:14 |
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| bnvk | Hello! | 13:36 |
| bnvk | Looks like this is the room for Jolla mobile phone users | 13:37 |
| Pnuu | channel, yes | 13:37 |
| bnvk | Any of the ppl from the Jolla company itself in here? Or is it more users + fans? | 13:38 |
| Pnuu | there are some | 13:38 |
| Eztran | Quite a few from Jolla around, though they participate more with a community hat on in here. | 13:38 |
| bnvk | Cool. You mean an @Op status? | 13:39 |
| ShadowJK | on freenode Ops dont advertise themselves usually | 13:39 |
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| bnvk | Rly? Hrm, the chans I follow + run that seems to common. Hehe :) | 13:40 |
| ln- | keeping ops is against freenode channel guidelines | 13:41 |
| ShadowJK | Also just because someone is Jolla doesn't mean they would have OP, and someone with OP isn't necessarily a Jolla sailor | 13:42 |
| bnvk | Fair | 13:42 |
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| bnvk | Anywho, was hoping to make contact with ppl at the company as I'm one of the founders of the FOSS project Mailpile- just got a Jolla phone to play with- had a few questions + ideas! | 13:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | bnvk: feel free to tell here, and on together.jolla.com | 13:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 13:43 |
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| bnvk | Yah, i'm been browsing that- seems to be a TON of comments, feedback, ideas, and bugs all mixed in together | 13:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yep | 13:44 |
| bnvk | *i've been | 13:44 |
| Venemo | bnvk: lots of Jolla employees hang out on IRC, but they are not always as loud as the crowd of fans and critics ;) | 13:44 |
| ShadowJK | talk.maemo.org has jolla forim too, and #sailfishos here too | 13:45 |
| bnvk | Venemo: right, that's why I'm trying to connect with them more directly | 13:45 |
| bnvk | Is there any particular trick to update to 1.0.3.8 ? I'm on my 4th attempt and none of them seem to stick | 13:46 |
| Venemo | bnvk: there is a bug when the update notification pops up, even if you are already up-to-date | 13:47 |
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| bnvk | elaborate on "is a bug" :) | 13:47 |
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| stephg | what does Settings>System>About Product show? | 13:48 |
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| Venemo | bnvk: if you already updated and the update notification shows up for the same update, that's the bug. | 13:48 |
| ShadowJK | In general 'asking to ask' is a poor approach, as well as asking if anyone can help.. | 13:48 |
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| Acce | bnvk: check your system clock; the update might not initiate if your clock is even minute late or forward | 13:49 |
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| ko__ | I keep getting update notifications, is this common? | 13:49 |
| bnvk | Acce: late or forward from what? | 13:50 |
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| bnvk | ShadowJK: am I "asking to ask" ? | 13:50 |
| ko__ | bnvk: accurate time | 13:50 |
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| bnvk | ko__: according to cell phone network time? Or? | 13:50 |
| Acce | yes, accurate time, meaning minutes + seconds of UTC | 13:50 |
| bnvk | wow | 13:50 |
| Acce | the update server apparently uses ssl for the connection | 13:51 |
| ko__ | cell phone network time means nothing, they're often wrong | 13:51 |
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| ShadowJK | bnvk: kinda, you just say you want to contact someone, but no idea what for :) | 13:51 |
| Acce | and if there is async with the time, the ssl certificate is not accepted since it could be fraud / void cert | 13:51 |
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| bnvk | Whoa, there we go 4 tries, i seem to have finally updated my phone | 13:52 |
| Acce | ok, good job | 13:52 |
| ShadowJK | as they don't speak in any official capability, you can bet they all go hiding when people look for them :) | 13:52 |
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| bnvk | that's unfortunate if that's how the community aspect of this phone works | 13:52 |
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| ShadowJK | But if people are just discussing stuff you see people with unusual insights of information participate ;) | 13:53 |
| Venemo | ko__: yes, it's a known issue | 13:53 |
| Acce | well what can you expect, if people take their word as the word of the company? | 13:53 |
| stephg | just booted my n9 (to check the position of the delete button in the dialer) and I'd totally forgotten how nice the harmattan/n9 haptics are | 13:54 |
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| Acce | they should be treated as individuals, who just have greater knowledge on the Jolla phone, not as Jolla support team.. there is an official support team at care@jolla.com | 13:55 |
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| Acce | just my opinion though, they can tell their opinion themselves | 13:55 |
| bnvk | right, last time I wrote that email address about what I thought was a billing issue I heard back 2 weeks later | 13:55 |
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| bnvk | Acce: making contact / having discussions does not equate to a final "word of the company" IMH | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | we're here as individuals, for official statements -> care, @JollaHQ, or jolla.com | 13:56 |
| bnvk | Right | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | so we're happy to discuss but don't take it as the word of the company | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | as in, some might condone clubbing baby seals but it's not the company's goals | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:57 |
| bnvk | hehe, for sure | 13:57 |
| ShadowJK | Amazingly we still don't know what he wants to know or talk about, must be highly top secret if he wants to exclude community from it :P | 13:58 |
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| bnvk | Sheesh | 13:59 |
| Quu | sheets | 13:59 |
| bnvk | Overall I'm curious what the dev relations / community involvement / update release cycle is going to be like | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | sailfish-devel@, together.jolla.com, monthly, practically | 14:01 |
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| Yaniel | essentially "ask and ye shall receive" | 14:02 |
| Yaniel | (with some limitations) | 14:02 |
| Pnuu | oh, and #sailfishos, too | 14:03 |
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| bnvk | So, where does the split between Jolla / Sailfish occur? From my understanding Jolla is a custom skin / theme for Sailfish, yes? | 14:03 |
| ShadowJK | browser landscapr support was pretty high up on together.jolla.com, and arrived in January update :) | 14:03 |
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| ShadowJK | Sailfish is the operating system on Jolla the phone | 14:04 |
| Yaniel | and Sailfish is based on the Mer and Nemomobile projects | 14:05 |
| Eztran | Sailfish refers to the OS, as used on the Jolla, essentially Mer/Nemo + Jolla's UI (and a hardware adaptation). | 14:05 |
| Acce | More like kernel -> mer / nemo -> sailfish UI == Sailfish OS ? | 14:05 |
| bnvk | Yes, I get that part! I've never used any of those older OS's and I just jumped in | 14:05 |
| Yaniel | they are not really old | 14:05 |
| bnvk | Right, so where is the split between Jolla UI / what Sailfish is capable of supporting? | 14:06 |
| ShadowJK | hm? | 14:06 |
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| Yaniel | umm... the terminal emulator? | 14:06 |
| ShadowJK | good answer :) | 14:07 |
| Yaniel | I don't really get the question | 14:07 |
| bnvk | So Jolla UI handles all of the UI windows, gestures, etc on top of Sailfish? | 14:07 |
| ShadowJK | Sailfish *is* the 'jolla ui' | 14:08 |
| Yaniel | no, the UI is the thing that makes it Sailfish | 14:08 |
| Yaniel | without the UI it is essentially nemo | 14:08 |
| bnvk | Hrm | 14:08 |
| Yaniel | there is another UI for nemo in the works, by a group of independent devs in the community | 14:09 |
| Yaniel | called glacier | 14:09 |
| Eztran | (also, it looks really promising :) ) | 14:09 |
| Yaniel | it looks totally different and is not yet usable AFAIK | 14:10 |
| Acce | Yaniel: linkz, plox ;o | 14:10 |
| bnvk | So for instance the icons here https://sailfishos.org/apps_icons.html this is what I see in my Jolla, but that is the Iconset for Sailfish | 14:10 |
| Yaniel | but if you were to replace the sailfish UI with that the underlying OS would still be identical | 14:10 |
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| Yaniel | bnvk: yes? | 14:10 |
| bnvk | Ok. So what I'm seeing my Jolla is "not" a theme or variation on top of Sailfish- that makes sense | 14:11 |
| ShadowJK | correct | 14:11 |
| ShadowJK | Jolla phone runs SailfishOS. | 14:12 |
| Yaniel | Acce: http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=344 blog post introducing it | 14:12 |
| Yaniel | people on #nemomobile know github links | 14:12 |
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| Acce | just want to see something first :) | 14:13 |
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| bnvk | ShadowJK: yes, I understand that it runs SailfishOS, i'm trying to understand the whole system / where I would jump in if I wanted to customize / do something different with the UI | 14:13 |
| bnvk | The Glacier link shared by Yaniel helps explain a bit :) | 14:14 |
| Acce | Yaniel: looks nice! | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | bnvk: http://ftp.belnet.be/FOSDEM/2014/UB2252A_Lameere/Saturday/Technical_introduction_to_the_deeper_parts_of_SailfishOS_a_Qt5Wayland_based_mobile_OS.webm | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | wget and view | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:15 |
| bnvk | sweet, thanks :) | 14:15 |
| bnvk | I was just at FOSDEM, wish I had made it to that talk!!! | 14:15 |
| Eztran | Stskeeps: herp derp, was just watching that and didn't think to link it :) | 14:16 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm obviously watching myself in the video at the moment and i'm grimacing over my own presentation skills.. | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | but pretty decent for not having done a talk in a year | 14:18 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps: you were too quiet but other than that, the presentation was OK | 14:18 |
| Eztran | There are thousands worse out there, that's for sure. | 14:18 |
| Yaniel | Stskeeps: I assume you've had more than enough "baby-talk" though ;) | 14:18 |
| Acce | Stskeeps: looking at your own videos is always like that :D | 14:19 |
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| bnvk | So, question re: installing Android apps- what's the situation with Yandex.Store- it seems to be a very limited selection of Android apps, is that the only way to install an Android app? I | 14:21 |
| SpeedEvil | No | 14:21 |
| SpeedEvil | you can also install apks | 14:21 |
| SpeedEvil | Or install other stores | 14:21 |
| SpeedEvil | Or compile from source | 14:22 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps: although it seems that the video guys did a nice job on making you louder | 14:22 |
| bnvk | Ah, ok. That's good to know | 14:22 |
| ShadowJK | http://www.modrana.org/misc/tizen-history.png | 14:24 |
| bnvk | Is there a specific place of documentation re: Android apps exists? | 14:24 |
| Eztran | ShadowJK: Thanks! Been looking for that image for ages! | 14:24 |
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| Pnuu | bnvk: documentation about existing android apps? | 14:26 |
| Pnuu | well.. try google play, amazon, yandex, .. | 14:26 |
| Yaniel | the android runtime is alien dalvik by myriad | 14:26 |
| bnvk | Pnuu: moreso installing on a Jolla | 14:26 |
| Yaniel | that's all I know ^^ | 14:27 |
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| Yaniel | bnvk: xdg-open $apk-file | 14:27 |
| bnvk | there only appears to the Yandex.Store thing | 14:27 |
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| bnvk | Yaniel: I imagine that is connecting to the phone via some sort of terminal via USB cable connection? | 14:28 |
| Pnuu | or terminal on the phone | 14:28 |
| stephg | bnvk, if you enable developer mode you gain a terminal and ssh access | 14:28 |
| Yaniel | or if you have developer mode enabled, directly on the phone | 14:28 |
| stephg | yeah | 14:28 |
| Yaniel | if not, iirc tapping on the file in the downloads view will open it | 14:28 |
| Yaniel | aka install | 14:28 |
| Yaniel | and some file browsers support that too | 14:29 |
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| HarhaanJohtaja | google play store is bit trickier: http://jollafin.blogspot.fi/2013/11/play-store-for-jolla.html | 14:29 |
| ShadowJK | don't enable developer updates though | 14:30 |
| Yaniel | and beware the monsters of the deep sea | 14:30 |
| ShadowJK | oh yes | 14:31 |
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| ko__ | don't they require username and password? | 14:34 |
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| ShadowJK | enabling it without user&pass breaks regular updates, I thought? | 14:36 |
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| thrakcattack | how can i compile c for sailfish? | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | gcc -o foo foo.c | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:39 |
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| thrakcattack | i started the mer vm via qtcreator, in this vn there are compilers in /opt/cross/bin but no c libraries | 14:42 |
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| Venemo | you just hit the green play button in Qt Creator | 14:43 |
| thrakcattack | this works for c++ but not for c i think | 14:44 |
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| Venemo | yes it does | 14:47 |
| thrakcattack | does it work for projects using plain makefiles? | 14:50 |
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| Venemo | well, in that case you will have to SSH into the VM | 14:53 |
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| Venemo | I suggest to just use Qt Creator and have a .pro file for your stuff | 14:53 |
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| bnvk | Yaniel: stephg: ah, ok, the developer mode- will poke around there, thanks :) | 15:00 |
| doctorinserenity | My Jolla keeps vibrating occasionally, is that because the battery is low or something? | 15:00 |
| Yaniel | yes | 15:00 |
| Yaniel | if it is <10% | 15:01 |
| Yaniel | if you have sounds on it will also beep | 15:01 |
| doctorinserenity | it's been on for 30 hours now | 15:02 |
| doctorinserenity | pretty good considering I've been using it the way I was using my n900 | 15:02 |
| Yaniel | yeah 1.0.3.8 improved battery life surprisingly much | 15:03 |
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| doctorinserenity | it's a little annoying that android background services don't work all that well | 15:04 |
| Nokius | Is it legal to change the License in the temolate toh ? | 15:05 |
| ko__ | so, is there a way to get backups off a device without developer mode? | 15:08 |
| bnvk | Yaniel: i'm excited to see this improvement- the previous bat life was so poor I immediately considered selling Jolla | 15:08 |
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| dschoepe | bnvk: you were probably affected by that NFC bug | 15:09 |
| Yaniel | bnvk: I've got around 48h with low to moderate use | 15:09 |
| dschoepe | bnvk: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92130 | 15:09 |
| bnvk | Yaniel: with the update? | 15:09 |
| Yaniel | yep | 15:09 |
| bnvk | nice- that seems reasonable | 15:09 |
| bnvk | It was sooo bad. Before the update, with NO use, not even a sim card and just sitting idle, my Jolla was dying in about 18 hrs | 15:11 |
| Yaniel | yeah I used to keep it plugged to the charger every night | 15:11 |
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| Yaniel | and sometimes even during daytime when I was home | 15:11 |
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| ko__ | mine went from over 70% at ~23:00 to dead at 08:00 | 15:13 |
| bnvk | Are any of you aware of updates coming to the Camera software? The resolution, white balance, and quality seem presently quite poor (when compared to my 3 yr old 5 MP iPhone) | 15:15 |
| ko__ | a battery logging ap woudl be good | 15:15 |
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| ko__ | mine can't focus at all in the dark, and can't take photos when there's less light. it turns on the flash led and just overexposes and fails | 15:16 |
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| Pnuu | https://together.jolla.com/questions/scope:all/sort:activity-desc/tags:camera/page:1/query:camera/ | 15:16 |
| ShadowJK | Battery is already logged o /var/lib/upower or something like that | 15:19 |
| ShadowJK | but no app to display the data | 15:19 |
| bnvk | Hrm | 15:19 |
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| ko__ | I'm still wondering if there's a way to get a backup of the device without using developer mode | 15:20 |
| Yaniel | a backup of the device or a backup out of the device? | 15:21 |
| ko__ | a backup out of the device | 15:21 |
| Quu | probably not | 15:21 |
| ko__ | sending your device in with a backup, just gets you back your device, sans backup. | 15:22 |
| Yaniel | a "backup to sdcard" option would be cool | 15:22 |
| ko__ | so the chance for a non-developer-mode-enabled phone to even have any use of a backup is very low? | 15:23 |
| Quu | depending on what you mean by "backup" | 15:24 |
| Eztran | Didn't someone mention the possibility of a UI for those wonderful btrfs snapshots? | 15:24 |
| ko__ | well, the one you can grab via the settings | 15:24 |
| Quu | yeah, you can transfer those easily | 15:24 |
| ko__ | how? | 15:24 |
| Quu | they are /home/nemo/.vault | 15:24 |
| Quu | so uh, file manager what can show hidden files/folders and and | 15:25 |
| Quu | stuff. | 15:25 |
| TMavica | Any chinese developer can help make a chinese input layout?? | 15:25 |
| ko__ | Quu: which file manager | 15:25 |
| Yaniel | TMavica: there is one already? | 15:26 |
| Quu | ko__: i cant remember what it was | 15:26 |
| Quu | but there is one | 15:26 |
| Yaniel | cargodock? | 15:26 |
| ko__ | that doesn't show hidden files | 15:27 |
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| Eztran | Filetug does. | 15:28 |
| ko__ | that's not in the store | 15:28 |
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| ryukafalz | Jolla owners: does Sailfish support ad-hoc wifi? | 16:02 |
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| Pnuu | wifi hotspot? | 16:03 |
| tbr | I haven't tried, but ad-hoc is quite uncommon nowadays | 16:04 |
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| ryukafalz | talking about actual ad-hoc wifi rather than a hotspot, yes | 16:06 |
| Pnuu | oh, right | 16:07 |
| ryukafalz | I'm playing around with mesh networking a bit and that's one of the options :P | 16:08 |
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| ar | hi | 16:08 |
| ryukafalz | with cjdns... and it would be pretty cool to get that up and running on a sailfish device | 16:09 |
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| ar | i have a slight problem with pairing a bluetooth keyboard with jolla. when it asks me to enter password on the keyboard, it doesn't register that i just entered it and it doesn't pair | 16:10 |
| bnvk | Do any of you have / use an alternate "The Other Half" phone back? | 16:11 |
| ar | it sometimes shows me, that i entered wrong passcode | 16:14 |
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| thrakcattack | :re | 16:18 |
| Iryus | re thrakcattack :) | 16:20 |
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| ar | is it possible to send a non-random pin for pairing? | 16:22 |
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| ar | where can i get bluez-simple-agent from on jolla? | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | is that a test script? | 16:51 |
| ar | it's a script that should allow me to pair with some device and specify a non-random key | 16:52 |
| ar | (i want to test pairing with my bluetooth keyboard, which works fine on android but doesn't seem to pair on jolla) | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | bluez-test/tests? | 16:53 |
| Nicd- | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/neither-microsoft-nokia-nor-anyone-else-should-fork-android-its-unforkable/ | 16:53 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, noo.. | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | No company has really gone down this route. <- not true | 17:03 |
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| SpeedEvil | I suspect they mean mainstream vendors, for which it's true | 17:11 |
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| SpeedEvil | As AIUI - if Samsung sold a sailfish phone, they violate agreements to not fork - and may lose their google apps. | 17:12 |
| doctorinserenity | I don't think android is unforkable | 17:12 |
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| SpeedEvil | It's getting harder. | 17:12 |
| doctorinserenity | personally I only use the emulator for the stupid vendor locked-in communication platforms | 17:12 |
| doctorinserenity | apart from Hangouts I'm sure other companies wouldn't mind putting their android apps on another market | 17:13 |
| doctorinserenity | but yes, article describes a worrying trend | 17:14 |
| SpeedEvil | The problem is that the vendor may need to reimplement functionality. | 17:14 |
| SpeedEvil | For example - the missing google maps or play services framework | 17:14 |
| doctorinserenity | of course, but google maps isn't the problem | 17:14 |
| doctorinserenity | the real killer is not having snapchat and full featured facebook apps | 17:15 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 17:15 |
| SpeedEvil | Oh no. No facebook. How will I cope. | 17:15 |
| SpeedEvil | (I do actually have a fake facebook account. I use it to get free ice-cream) | 17:16 |
| kehnoo | free ice cream?! | 17:16 |
| doctorinserenity | I would miss out on so much interaction with my peers without facebook | 17:16 |
| doctorinserenity | fucking facebook events and group chats for everything :/ | 17:16 |
| SpeedEvil | kehnoo: 'like us for voucchers' | 17:16 |
| kehnoo | ohhh | 17:16 |
| SpeedEvil | doctorinserenity: yeah - network effects are a bitch. | 17:16 |
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| doctorinserenity | welp, phone died | 17:17 |
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| doctorinserenity | 28 hours | 17:17 |
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| genjix | how can i use websockets in qml on jolla? | 17:20 |
| tbr | that's a #sailfishos question | 17:20 |
| tbr | or for the dev ml | 17:20 |
| genjix | ok | 17:21 |
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| doctorinserenity | btw, do most people have a creaky OH? | 17:22 |
| doctorinserenity | around the volume and power buttons | 17:23 |
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| Pnuu | nope | 17:24 |
| SpeedEvil | Anyone in the UK suggest a third party accidental damage cover place for Jolla? | 17:24 |
| SpeedEvil | Squaretrade won't work for preorders. | 17:24 |
| doctorinserenity | it's the white one here | 17:24 |
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| SpeedEvil | Alternatively - is there a published schedule of off-warranty repair costs - say for a smashed screen. | 17:25 |
| kehnoo | put something between the battery and OH and it'll feel more solid | 17:25 |
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| Stskeeps | SpeedEvil: somebody quoted 210 EUR for screen replacement | 17:25 |
| doctorinserenity | kehnoo: might try that | 17:25 |
| kehnoo | I've got black OH and 20 e bill there for emergencies and it feels solid and non-creaky | 17:25 |
| Pnuu | kehnoo: money-TOH :-) | 17:26 |
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| Iryus | 210€ Stskeeps !!!?? | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | somebody mentioned it on tmo | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | it was done within 3 days though | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1410496#post1410496 | 17:33 |
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| Iryus | On twitter too Stskeeps :/ | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | i have no idea if that's the truth, though | 17:34 |
| Iryus | Damn it....and what the price for camera replacement..anyone have an idea? | 17:35 |
| SpeedEvil | Iryus: well - you mean replacement because you broke it - or warranty? | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | "And 210 euros later I got my Jolla back from OptimaService. I also got the broken screen back. Apparently they had to change everything. Screen, touch elements and the gorilla glass." | 17:35 |
| Iryus | my shots very blurry | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | "a friend once dropped his SGS3 and cracked the screen... turned out you have to buy the a combi of screen, glass and electronics which costs 130€ - if you change it yourself... so 210 incl. labour sounds reasonable..." | 17:36 |
| SpeedEvil | Iryus: that's a warranty issue rahter than a pay-to-fix - I'd have thouht | 17:36 |
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| kehnoo | I liked Lumia 820 I had because I the glass was seperate from the screen, was easy and cheap to replace | 17:36 |
| SpeedEvil | Stskeeps: I'm awaitin my n7 back from squaretrade - after a week or so | 17:36 |
| kehnoo | the hardware, not the phone itself :p | 17:36 |
| SpeedEvil | You can seperate off the glass from the LCD - in many cases - even with glued | 17:37 |
| Iryus | whiteout and micro scratches on the glasse | 17:37 |
| Iryus | camera glass* | 17:37 |
| kehnoo | yeah it's possible, just really hard unless it was designed that way | 17:37 |
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| SpeedEvil | Scratches on glass will generally not blur. | 17:39 |
| Iryus | im a unkucky guy....my N9s and N900 are brandnew .... | 17:39 |
| SpeedEvil | It will reduce contrast | 17:39 |
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| Iryus | see my twitter you'll understand :/ | 17:39 |
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| Iryus | i posted some comparaison with my N9 SpeedEvil | 17:40 |
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| Pnuu | url? | 17:40 |
| Pnuu | about dirty lenses with minor scratches (yes, a dSLR, but anyway): http://kurtmunger.com/dirty_lens_articleid35.html | 17:41 |
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| Iryus | wait a minute :) | 17:43 |
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| Iryus | Re eee'body :) | 17:46 |
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| Iryus | this is my problem https://twitter.com/Iryus_4Ever/status/430378219532218368 | 17:50 |
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| Pnuu | incorrect focus | 17:50 |
| Iryus | Before, no problem https://twitter.com/Iryus_4Ever/status/423080067808653312 | 17:51 |
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| Eztran | That's... a very odd bit of focussing. Why's it gone for the ground? | 17:52 |
| Nicd- | my jolla does that too sometimes | 17:53 |
| Nicd- | seems it doesn't like to focus on the center point | 17:53 |
| Eztran | Weird, you'd think that's exactly what it would aim for. | 17:53 |
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| Iryus | wait i'll upload some picture of my Jolla... | 17:54 |
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| Iryus | https://jolla.zendesk.com/attachments/token/4ms6mkyfiyq2s41/?name=20140203_017.jpg | 17:57 |
| Eztran | At least that one picked something sane to focus on. | 17:58 |
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| Iryus | upload now on my twitter https://twitter.com/Iryus_4Ever/status/432214094004092928 | 18:08 |
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| Iryus | i opened a ticket for Jolla Care...for the moment no answer :/ | 18:09 |
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| Eztran | They've been backlogged for ages, it may be a while before you get a response. | 18:17 |
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| Stskeeps | getting better however | 18:18 |
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| louisdk | Is the Jolla device hardware locked. Would it be possible to port Android to it? | 18:20 |
| Morpog_ | you can unlock the bootloader | 18:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | louisdk: fun, usually, you will want to port away from Android | 18:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not porting android to it | 18:23 |
| Morpog_ | hey Sfiet_Konstantin | 18:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | morning Morpog_ | 18:24 |
| Morpog_ | lol | 18:24 |
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| louisdk | Morpog_ , Sfiet_Konstantin: Nice. It's just if Jolla/Sailfish dies I still want to use my device and get apps etc. And then I would rather run Android on it than buying a new phone. | 18:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | louisdk: you can, but good luck for finding drivers | 18:25 |
| Pnuu | how it dies? | 18:25 |
| kehnoo | just make sure by contributing to the community that it doesn't die ;) | 18:25 |
| mikma | lol | 18:25 |
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| cloanta | Video: Carsten Munk - Deeper parts of Sailfish OS http://reviewjolla.blogspot.be/2014/02/video-carsten-munk-deeper-parts-of.html | 18:34 |
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| clau | Stskeeps, what's with the Here updates I get? here-daemons-1.2.0-10.6.1.jolla.armv7hl and libherepositioning-1.2.0-10.6.1.jolla.armv7hl | 18:52 |
| Morpog_ | you were not getting them, you asked for them :) | 18:56 |
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| clau | what do you mean? | 18:59 |
| Acce | that you ran pkcon refresh | 18:59 |
| Acce | = roughly same as asking for update notifications in the repo | 18:59 |
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| clau | I *do* know that. | 19:01 |
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| clau | the question is, how come we can see them before official updates? | 19:01 |
| cloanta | he see in warehouse | 19:02 |
| clau | and an even better question is, how do I know they are coming from Jolla? Can I somehow see what repository offers them? | 19:02 |
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| clau | warehouse app says they come from adaptation1 repo, which is jolla | 19:03 |
| tbr | clau: do you have 3rd-party repositories enabled? | 19:03 |
| clau | yes | 19:04 |
| clau | a bunch of openrepos repositories | 19:04 |
| tbr | all bets are off | 19:04 |
| Morpog_ | disable all of them, refresh again | 19:04 |
| clau | let's see... | 19:05 |
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| clau | I still get them. | 19:08 |
| clau | Only Jolla repos are active. | 19:08 |
| clau | http://pastebin.com/B1PfeBKR | 19:10 |
| TMavica | I updated | 19:11 |
| clau | TMavica, I suppose that's safe, since they seem to be coming from Jolla repo. | 19:12 |
| Morpog_ | still, I wait for official update notification | 19:13 |
| clau | me too | 19:13 |
| clau | unless someone from Jolla says they are ok, there's a small risk one of their servers was hacked | 19:13 |
| clau | happened to FreeBSD not long ago | 19:13 |
| TMavica | clau yes | 19:14 |
| Pnuu | wasn't the "you have update" notification bug basically coming from the updated packages? | 19:14 |
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| TMavica | i havent got this bug | 19:14 |
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| clau | Pnuu, afaik, no | 19:15 |
| clau | I had it even though there weren't any updates reported by pkcon | 19:15 |
| Pnuu | ok | 19:15 |
| clau | but that was with 1.0.2.5 | 19:15 |
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| clau | with 1.0.3.8 I sometimes get update notifications for some Store apps, which do not actually exist. | 19:16 |
| clau | Quick Launcher is one case | 19:16 |
| clau | I had to uninstall it, it became unpleasent already. | 19:16 |
| clau | pkcon get-details here-daemons says version 1.2.0 comes from adaptation1 | 19:16 |
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| clau | same for libherepositioning-1.2.0-10.6.1.jolla.armv7hl | 19:17 |
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| Morpog_ | I guess there will be a store update of Maps app soon | 19:19 |
| clau | First thought was that an update is about to be announced. | 19:19 |
| clau | Morpog_, that, or maybe the developer pushed them on the repo by mistake. | 19:20 |
| Morpog_ | I hope next OS update includes Qt 5.2 | 19:20 |
| Morpog_ | that new renderer hopefully makes our Jolla's silk smooth | 19:20 |
| clau | that would be nice :) | 19:20 |
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| AJAX555 | ah sweet jolla saved my day simply because it failed to connect to network! | 21:26 |
| stephg | how? | 21:26 |
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| AJAX555 | telemarketer had tried to call to me at 10.50am | 21:27 |
| DrainBamaged | Surely you wouldn't have been all day talking to a telemarketer? | 21:27 |
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| AJAX555 | no, but those bastards are too annoying | 21:27 |
| AJAX555 | sometimes enough to ruin all day | 21:28 |
| AJAX555 | + fin - usa ice hockey was going on at that time | 21:28 |
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| AJAX555 | except finland did horribly in that match.. | 21:28 |
| Nicd- | would be nice to have an API for the phonecall UI so someone could implement fonecta caller | 21:28 |
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| Nicd- | because a telemarketer called me yesterday, luckily I didn't manage to answer in time :P | 21:29 |
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| Pnuu | robinson register <3 | 21:33 |
| AJAX555 | by the way.. is there any function in jolla to block incoming phone calls from a number? | 21:33 |
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| Turski | i haven't found it too hard to just say no thank bye for telemarketers | 21:48 |
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| Turski | (is telemarketer a synonym for ski jumper?) | 21:48 |
| Pnuu | only on perfect landing | 21:49 |
| Turski | :) | 21:49 |
| Nicd- | Turski: but it would be much better if I didn't need to answer them at all :P | 21:50 |
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| Pnuu | in finland that robinson register really works, have had it for years | 21:52 |
| Pnuu | it seems that all the marketers respect that list, and don't call anymore | 21:52 |
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| Nicd- | the one that called me was my operator (they try to offer more stuff) so I don't know if they'd respect it | 21:53 |
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| Pnuu | oh, yeah, those are the exception :-( | 21:53 |
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| Nicd- | my number is secret so I don't really get other calls. but fonecta caller would still be nice for when people I don't know call me | 21:54 |
| Pnuu | my bank and insurance company has called once a year or so | 21:54 |
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| Pnuu | http://xkcd.com/1327/ | 22:04 |
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| eye_a | jolla )0lLa joh | 22:57 |
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| eitzei | Is someone else having a feeling that recent update "broke" the os? My Jolla had worked perfectly, no crashes what so ever, but after 1.0.3.8 update my Jolla has crashed three times today. I haven't installed anything new so its strange... And did the new update change the method to answer to phone? Previously it was enough just slide the screen, but now I have to slide and tap "answer":( | 23:11 |
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| JupiterOrbit | OMG! What a bloody amazing IRC client! | 23:13 |
| attah | eitzei: sorry, not really | 23:13 |
| attah | (i.e. i have the opposite experience) | 23:13 |
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| JupiterOrbit | Just installed it. Like the pulley menu overload. | 23:14 |
| Venemo | meh | 23:16 |
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| Quu | local irc-clients are laaaameee | 23:17 |
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| Acce | since when did someone care about something being lame? | 23:19 |
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| Quu | hipsters cared about it before it came mainstream | 23:19 |
| Acce | poor guys | 23:19 |
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| M4rtinK | anybody else with Sailfish IRC ? :) | 23:21 |
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| JupiterOrbit | yep | 23:23 |
| tanghus_ | yes, testing it atm | 23:24 |
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| M4rtinK | seems to work fine | 23:25 |
| M4rtinK | btw, any idea if it saves chanels ? | 23:25 |
| tanghus_ | wonder what it does to battery time | 23:25 |
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| tanghus_ | it does, just tested | 23:25 |
| M4rtinK | or you need to reconnect on startup? | 23:26 |
| M4rtinK | good point | 23:26 |
| Acce | tanghus_: it burns battery quite fast, but devs are promising upgrades as the profiling tools get better support | 23:27 |
| tanghus_ | but closing it as I'm right in front of my monitor :) | 23:27 |
| tanghus_ | Acce: good to hear | 23:27 |
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| genjix | my email doesn't seem to work | 23:36 |
| genjix | how can i change the settings? | 23:36 |
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| clau | tanghus, impact on battery seems to be quite small | 23:50 |
| Acce | maybe it got better already, but I had significant increase in battery consumption | 23:51 |
| tanghus | clau: that's great. Good for travels then | 23:51 |
| clau | as in, I haven't noticed anything serious after hours of usage | 23:51 |
| Acce | comparing a day at work I had the client constantly on to a day when I had it closed | 23:51 |
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| clau | though, I am running with suspend policy "early" | 23:52 |
| clau | so the phone doesn't go to deep sleep anyway | 23:52 |
| Acce | 100 in the morning; irc on: around 60 when going home, irc off: around 80 | 23:52 |
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| tanghus | not bad | 23:52 |
| clau | I guess there could be a more significant difference to the default suspend policy | 23:52 |
| tanghus | where do you set that? | 23:52 |
| clau | one sec... | 23:53 |
| clau | https://together.jolla.com/question/3057/how-to-temporarily-fix-the-erratic-email-syncing-problem/ | 23:53 |
| clau | uhm... the link inside the post: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92183 | 23:54 |
| clau | basically, you install mcetools | 23:54 |
| tanghus | hadn't seen the update to that post, thx | 23:54 |
| clau | and run mcetool --set-suspend-policy early | 23:54 |
| clau | yw | 23:54 |
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| clau | with "early" I still get better battery life than my N9, with a bit more aggresive usage even | 23:55 |
| clau | not to mention that I was using 2G / 2.5G on N9 and I use 3G on Jolla | 23:55 |
| clau | N9's 3G really ate too much battery in my case. | 23:56 |
| clau | in any case, I usually have 30-50% left by the end of the day on Jolla with suspend policy "early" | 23:56 |
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| clau | time to go... good night everyone | 23:58 |
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| tanghus | cya | 23:58 |
| M4rtinK | nite :) | 23:58 |
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