#sfdroid log for Monday, 2017-09-18

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nh1402saidinesh5: mal: the cleanest approach is to use uinput namespace (according to krnlyng), but such a thing doesn't exist, so we'll need to create another kernel patch. I started looking into it yesterday, but still not really sure what i'm supposed to do to add support. maybe something similar to this https://github.com/Cellrox/devns-patches/blob/master/dev_ns__adopt_the_input_subsystem07:19
nh1402but for uinput07:19
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saidinesh5nh1402: nope. that is the easiest approach15:13
saidinesh5but not the cleanest approach, as it would break if say we were to use Split windows or some such thing on say Jolla tablets15:13
nh1402saidinesh5: well i have a different idea, using the device namespace from the link, along with configuring each input with lxc.cgroup.devices.allow15:14
saidinesh5nh1402: yes, tht was what krnlyng was working on.. b/c we were mostly interested in running android apps on our sailfish phones..15:16
saidinesh5but for tablets etc.. it would break15:16
nh1402why15:17
nh1402saidinesh5: why would it break15:18
saidinesh5because the events from touch screen are for the full touchscreen15:20
saidinesh5but those events arent adopted for relative position/size of the windowed version..15:21
saidinesh5okay need to head out15:21
saidinesh5be back later15:21
nh1402i still don't see how it would break15:21
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nh1402mal: how's it going?18:17
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malnh1402: I haven't done much today18:24
nh1402mal: no problem, hows life18:24
malbad as usual18:25
nh1402why so18:25
malI haven't been able to sleep in months, or actually years with some better times in between18:28
nh1402I suppose it's more than a bad mattress18:30
malyes, I have tried many things18:33
nh1402that's pretty rough18:33
saidinesh5interesting thing.. to walk up on this conversation when i just had the same conversation with colleagues19:35
saidinesh5like one thing that used to screw up my sleep was how my body wasnt tired enough.. physically...19:35
malsaidinesh5: the problem is that if the problem gets bad enough then it doesn't help because the body is so messed up19:46
saidinesh5mhm mal plus it is kind of a messed up catch 22..19:47
saidinesh5you cant sleep well sometimes because you arent tired enough19:47
saidinesh5and the next day you feel so very tired because you didnt sleep well19:47
malyep, and exercising when tired usually gets the body to some stressed state and that doesn't help sleeping19:49
saidinesh5yup19:49
saidinesh5mal: out of curiosity, have you tried the 4-7-8 method?19:49
malno idea what that is19:50
saidinesh5this can still make me fall asleep sometimes when not sleepy..  http://quietkit.com/box-breathing/ . kind of like meditation...19:51
saidinesh5you breath in for 4 seconds. hold the breath for 7 seconds. and exhale for 8 seconds19:52
saidinesh5usually makes you heavy headed and makes you feel sleepy in about.. 3ish minutes19:52
saidinesh5http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/03/12/simple-4-7-8-breathing-trick-can-induce-sleep-in-60-seconds/19:53
nh1402saidinesh5: my friend has the opposite problem, even if his body is exhausted he still can't sleep since he still thinks about stuff19:56
saidinesh5yup19:57
nh1402have you tried just thinking about the colour black, just picture the colour black, and nothing else.19:59
malfor me it's nowadays more about the quality of sleep19:59
saidinesh5yup. this one doesnt help mucha bout that.. you end up waking up in like 4-5 hours19:59
nh1402mal: is that due to sound, lighting, time slept, pillow, mattress20:00
malno idea20:02
nh1402I stayed over at a relatives place once, that's on a busy high street, and you could feel the room vibrate when cars went by, shops all around with lighting, it was quite hard to sleep then, especially when no one else was talking, all you could hear was the noisy street, it took me a while to filter it out.20:03
malthis place is quiet, room is dark, not too warm, good bed etc20:04
nh1402some people prefer sleeping on the floor, have you tried that?20:05
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nh1402some say it's best to go to/attempt to sleep early, regularly.20:05
nh1402diet also affects sleep I believe20:06
nh1402and exercise20:06
malnh1402: I highly doubt that would work, I cannot even lay on my back on a hard surface without getting back pain in like 15 minutes20:06
nh1402well that's certainly not for you then20:07
malI have never been able to sleep on my back for some reason20:08
nh1402some studies say that's a psychological reason20:08
nh1402I can't sleep on my back either20:09
nh1402but I have deep pyschological issues20:10
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kimmolimy sleep issue is mostly that when i sleep, no one else can sleep nearby20:14
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nh1402well time for me to head off20:50
nh1402mal: hope you get a good night sleep20:51
malnh1402: I'm pretty sure I won't :)20:51
nh1402good night20:52
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