| Almindor | I can't do anything with armv7hl target with the latest SDK. I just get a hang if I click it in the IDE, same if I ssh in the build engine and try to install any package via zypper. i486 target works fine tho. Is this a known bug? | 01:13 |
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| r0kk3rz | sounds like a problem with the repositories | 01:40 |
| r0kk3rz | try a refresh first | 01:40 |
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| Almindor | r0kk3rz: no it hangs right off the bat on the command or switching to the target in the visual tool. there's no downloading or anything. I did get some RPM error 1 msg show up in the visual tool once | 03:28 |
| r0kk3rz | ignore that and ssh into the build engine | 03:29 |
| Almindor | I did and if I do $ sb2 -t SailfishOS-$SFVER-armv7hl -m sdk-install -R zypper update it hangs such that even ctrl + c doesn't stop it | 03:30 |
| Almindor | I can still do another ssh tho so it's not the whole VM, just the zypper thing | 03:31 |
| Almindor | there's a mersdk 2262 6.5 0.6 115824 24228 pts/0 Sl+ 03:31 0:00 /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic -L / -0 zypper /usr/bin/zypper update | 03:31 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, might be worth nuking the target and remaking | 03:32 |
| Almindor | and it fails with | 03:32 |
| Almindor | error: cannot open Packages index using db4 - Resource temporarily unavailable (11) | 03:32 |
| Almindor | this on a fresh start of the VM (manual start, tried everything) | 03:32 |
| Almindor | how do I do that? | 03:32 |
| r0kk3rz | https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_Target_Installation | 03:33 |
| Almindor | thx, I'll check it out | 03:34 |
| Almindor | I get The target 'SailfishOS-3.2.0.12-armv7hl' can only be removed in the 'installer' mode. | 03:46 |
| Almindor | how od I get into "installer" mode? | 03:46 |
| Almindor | if I try to do update instead of remove I get error: db4 error(11) from dbenv->open: Resource temporarily unavailable | 03:54 |
| Almindor | same as with any package | 03:54 |
| Almindor | going to reinstall the whole thing | 03:54 |
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| freyr69 | Ok, with new update I could not login in Jolla Account anymore, neither can I create a new one. Some obscure error during my trials said something like "could not store app keys" or something. I could log into my acc using desktop just fine. Any idea how to fix that? | 08:40 |
| haasn | omni: thanks, now zsh works again (even though I get spammed by warnings) | 09:54 |
| haasn | I also like how the update broke DST | 09:55 |
| haasn | I have to manually set the time, using NTP makes it show up as an hour earlier | 09:55 |
| haasn | honestly I wish I could just revert | 09:55 |
| haasn | I have nothng but problems with 3.2.0.12 and it's also uglier than before (the stupid frosted glass effect, how do I get rid of it?...) | 09:56 |
| lachs0r | haasn: you can patch the qml | 09:59 |
| lachs0r | not sure which one you mean | 10:00 |
| lachs0r | (it didn’t break DST for me, fwiw) | 10:00 |
| lachs0r | for the qml stuff: look for instances of BlurredBackground in /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 | 10:04 |
| alseeme | Hello people | 10:05 |
| alseeme | How many apps are in Jolla store? | 10:06 |
| alseeme | I must to install aptoide for app? | 10:07 |
| tadzik | not many – but you don't have to :) | 10:07 |
| tadzik | depends on what you need | 10:08 |
| alseeme | Whatsapp, Telegram, Facebook, Messenger, Outlook, LinkedIn, Revolut... | 10:09 |
| tadzik | telegram has a native app, no idea about the others | 10:09 |
| tadzik | but if you want android apps then yes, you're gonna need aptoide or something | 10:09 |
| alseeme | Ok, Thank you for your information | 10:10 |
| alseeme | Any apps for linux can work on SFOS? | 10:11 |
| tadzik | can, yes. The UI can be a bit tricky to adapt, but generally you can take almost anything you can compile on linux and compile it for sailfish | 10:11 |
| alseeme | :) Tks | 10:12 |
| alseeme | How many people work in developing Apps for SFOS ? | 10:13 |
| tadzik | hmm, hard to say | 10:13 |
| tadzik | it seems faily low these days | 10:13 |
| tadzik | you can check the activity on https://openrepos.net/ | 10:13 |
| tadzik | that's where the interesting stuff happens | 10:14 |
| alseeme | Why SFOS doesn't use any other phones, just Xperia? | 10:17 |
| tadzik | well, non-official sailfish works on many phones | 10:18 |
| tadzik | but Jolla only made if for Xperia | 10:18 |
| tadzik | presumably because it takes time and money to develop it for something | 10:18 |
| alseeme | It was a good ideea if they continue to develop for Nokia phone because there are cheaper than Xperia | 10:30 |
| alseeme | by Sony | 10:30 |
| alseeme | From what I saw on Youtube the SFOS have the goodest interface comparing with IOS and Android | 10:31 |
| alseeme | Can I install the SFOS on Virtual machine? | 10:44 |
| r0kk3rz | one comes with the sdk | 10:48 |
| haasn | wow it's getting better and better | 11:03 |
| haasn | I can't even hang up calls | 11:03 |
| haasn | the UI is unresponsive | 11:03 |
| haasn | heck it's even unresponsive when attempting to _make_ calls | 11:04 |
| haasn | I seriously need to downgrade | 11:04 |
| lachs0r | haasn: sounds like something is very broken | 11:04 |
| lachs0r | jolla 1, right? | 11:04 |
| haasn | this version broke WAY too much | 11:04 |
| haasn | yep | 11:04 |
| lachs0r | btrfs fuckup? | 11:04 |
| haasn | doubtful | 11:04 |
| haasn | fs seems fine | 11:04 |
| haasn | all the files are there | 11:05 |
| lachs0r | I haven’t upgraded my jolla 1 yet but it’s running the version right before current with no issues | 11:05 |
| haasn | that I know of | 11:05 |
| haasn | hmm | 11:05 |
| haasn | I skipped a ver in the upgrade process | 11:05 |
| haasn | maybe that fscked things up | 11:05 |
| lachs0r | don’t think so? done that before | 11:06 |
| lachs0r | were you running an old version of patchmanager? pre 3.0 | 11:06 |
| haasn | dunno | 11:07 |
| haasn | probably? | 11:07 |
| haasn | I've had a patchmanager icon in the settings app for years | 11:08 |
| lachs0r | if you still had patches enabled, that may have fucked things up | 11:08 |
| haasn | if I click on it, it fails loading the page | 11:08 |
| haasn | been that way for years too | 11:08 |
| lachs0r | oouch | 11:08 |
| haasn | I only had one patch and iirc it was disabled anyway | 11:08 |
| haasn | since it didn't work as intended | 11:09 |
| haasn | (for lockscreen media controls) | 11:10 |
| lachs0r | also make sure you don’t have any openrepos stuff enabled that provides system packages | 11:11 |
| lachs0r | because all the repo managers to openrepos are hot garbage and fail to assign a lower repo priority | 11:11 |
| lachs0r | so a dist upgrade might pull in the wrong packages | 11:11 |
| lachs0r | (lower than jolla/sfos repos) | 11:12 |
| abranson | if you use the upgrade UI, then that should disable any non-system repos for the upgrade. | 11:26 |
| lachs0r | good to know | 11:29 |
| haasn | don't think I have any openrepos stuff? | 11:40 |
| haasn | zypper lr just shows the jolla.com ones | 11:40 |
| Hummer12007 | Inspired by the works of Georg Cantor, Ernst Zermelo’s 1908 axioms for set theory and the 1922 critiques of Zermelo’s set theory by Fraenkel and Skolem, von Neumann’s work provided solutions to some of the problems of Zermelo set theory, leading to the eventual development of Zermelo-Fraenkel set theory (ZFC). The problems he helped resolve include: | 12:14 |
| Hummer12007 | yikes | 12:14 |
| alseeme | If I choose to install Sailfish OS trial, later can I install the commercial components wthout to flash the SFOS image? | 12:24 |
| alseeme | How can I install the commercial components ? It is easily ? | 12:25 |
| pketo | alseeme: yes, you can just later buy the licence and the paid components will be then installable from store | 12:42 |
| sledges | PSA: Christmassy SFOS release wants to bring out your inner linguist: https://together.jolla.com/question/216903/official-announcement-l10n-strings-for-321/ | 13:10 |
| Almindor | reinstalling the whole SDK fixed the target issues | 18:11 |
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| bionade24 | Are there any guides on how to rewrite a "normal" qt application to a sailfish one? | 20:47 |
| Nico[m] | I don't know of any, but you would probably need to start porting its UI to QML | 21:11 |
| bionade24 | Nico[m]: Any guide for this? Or simply start a complete rewrite on top of the c++ code ? | 21:21 |
| Nico[m] | Nope, sorry. You could look into partially replacing the UI one bit at a time, by using a window container or QQuickWidget, but I don't know of any good guides, I just did something similar like that by reading through the Qt docs | 21:29 |
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