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| tanghus | adantes: yeah, same here. The days of "do no evil" are long gone. I do still have a gmail account for backup (e.g. switching between ISPs), but really should find an alternative for that as well. But no, the SFOS mail client is really not especially good yet, but I'm still hoping they get the time to improve it. Maybe get some Russians to work on it 😁 | 05:24 |
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| tanghus | I'm a long time KMail devotee though. Had to use Thunderbird for a year or two because of Akonadi (shuddder), but it doesn't really cut it. | 05:26 |
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| als | Hi all | 07:52 |
| als | What is the difference between free sailfish os and sailfish os | 07:54 |
| als | The one with payment | 07:54 |
| als | I want to know if I will install free sailfish os on Xperia can I install Android app without to pay | 07:56 |
| als | 🙂 | 07:56 |
| als | I know if I buy sailfish os I can install the Android app | 07:57 |
| als | But I want to know if I can install the Android app to free sailfish os | 07:57 |
| Coolgeek | the pay one have android support, predictive text on the keyboard and exchange support | 07:58 |
| als | Anybody here? | 07:59 |
| als | Ok | 07:59 |
| als | But on free sailfish os can I install Android apps? | 08:00 |
| als | I want to know before to buy an Xperia XA2 and before to install the OS | 08:01 |
| Coolgeek | not sure | 08:02 |
| chriadam | als: Android application support is a paid feature only, as far as I understand. the community edition does not include Android application support, I believe. | 08:04 |
| als | What alternative is to Google play? | 08:06 |
| als | Aptoide ... | 08:06 |
| als | F-droid | 08:07 |
| als | ... | 08:07 |
| chriadam | yandex store | 08:07 |
| als | These alternative are installed on Sailfish os? | 08:07 |
| als | Or I must to install | 08:08 |
| r0kk3rz | installable through the jolla store | 08:09 |
| als | Tks | 08:11 |
| als | Yandex is for Russian Market | 08:11 |
| adantes | als: just support the devs, they have families like you ;-) | 08:12 |
| adantes | als: it's more than worth. I've got two: Gemini and in XA2; | 08:12 |
| adantes | Gemini wasn't battery charged since last thursday | 08:12 |
| Coolgeek | 2 here too : jolla 1 and xperia x | 08:12 |
| adantes | xperia XZ is awesome. Had one as well. sold it to upgrade to xa2 | 08:13 |
| als | 👍 | 08:15 |
| als | I will buy the paid OS | 08:15 |
| als | I want an alternative to Android or IOS | 08:15 |
| als | How is the Sailfish ? | 08:16 |
| als | Do you receive the update monthly? | 08:16 |
| adantes | als: it's a wise decision. It's not just the added value we pay for our phones. Is the support you give to the project | 08:16 |
| als | Such as security patch? | 08:16 |
| adantes | honnestly, don't notice that much | 08:17 |
| adantes | I'm more a stable version guy. Don't try to fix something that's not broken | 08:17 |
| als | I followed the project since 2013 but I decided now to make part of it because there offer possibility to install on other phones | 08:17 |
| adantes | The latest sfos 3.2 is really nice and stable | 08:17 |
| adantes | not feel the need to update whatever | 08:18 |
| adantes | brb | 08:18 |
| chriadam | als: regular updates, yes. not necessarily monthly, just whenever they are ready - see https://blog.jolla.com/ for info about recent updates. | 08:23 |
| als | How many app exist in SFOS Jolla store? | 08:26 |
| chriadam | no idea. | 08:27 |
| als | Are you satisfied with Sailfish OS? | 08:28 |
| chriadam | I'm a developer for Jolla, so you're asking the wrong person - I'm biased. I believe that Sailfish OS fills a vital void in the marketplace, being an independently developed operating system which respects users' privacy, so yes I am a huge fan of Sailfish OS and its mission. | 08:29 |
| chriadam | of course, nothing is perfect, there are many things which need improvement and it's great that we have customers (both commercial and private) who are willing to help us make those improvements and support our efforts. | 08:30 |
| * chriadam heads home, gnight all | 08:35 | |
| sledges | PSA: SFOS community collab meeting at #mer-meeting starting right about now:) | 09:02 |
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| freyr69 | Hi | 10:13 |
| freyr69 | After update optimizations my device is dead | 10:14 |
| freyr69 | Jolla 1 | 10:14 |
| freyr69 | shows logo, and then black screen | 10:14 |
| freyr69 | is there any hope to reanimate it? | 10:18 |
| r0kk3rz | tried recovery? | 10:19 |
| freyr69 | Is there a guide? | 10:20 |
| r0kk3rz | there is | 10:20 |
| freyr69 | volume down + power? | 10:20 |
| r0kk3rz | https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204709607-Jolla-Phone-How-to-use-Recovery-Mode | 10:20 |
| Nico[m] | https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204709607-Jolla-Phone-How-to-use-Recovery-Mode?mobile_site=true | 10:20 |
| freyr69 | Thanks! | 11:51 |
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| alseeme | Hi people, | 14:01 |
| alseeme | In Jolla store there is paid application? | 14:02 |
| x2s | nop | 14:02 |
| rodrigosolari | i have a questionim building in platformsdk in arm arch, is ok | 16:55 |
| rodrigosolari | but in x86 +same errors | 16:56 |
| haasn | Hmm, after updating SailfishOS it removed my shell (zsh) and it no longer exists | 17:02 |
| haasn | I have to use bash now; what happened? | 17:02 |
| haasn | even `zypper search zsh` finds nothing | 17:02 |
| rodrigosolari | zypper search bash? | 17:05 |
| haasn | bash is installed | 17:06 |
| haasn | incidentally, `zupper update` shows a ton of updates but all of them fail getting fetched | 17:06 |
| haasn | since the jolla repo does not provide those .rpms or something | 17:06 |
| haasn | https://openrepos.net/content/nieldk/zsh-0 2014 :/ | 17:07 |
| haasn | I guess it's just no longer compatible and got uninstalled by some update? | 17:07 |
| rodrigosolari | what is you version of Sailfishos | 17:07 |
| haasn | 3.2.0.12 | 17:08 |
| rodrigosolari | what is your model | 17:08 |
| haasn | Jolla 1st gen | 17:08 |
| rodrigosolari | I imagine that it is for version 3.2, why there is no version of zsh, but if you have bash, what would be the difference? | 17:10 |
| haasn | Comfort mostly, plus this pretty much bricked my ability to use the device (had to boot into recovery mode to change the term) | 17:11 |
| haasn | Hmm, I also can no longer listen to music.. /usr/local/bin/mpd is missing dependencies. Time to recompile it, I guess | 17:11 |
| haasn | what a bothersome update | 17:12 |
| rodrigosolari | It should be annoying, could you send some screenshot? to see the differences of that version? | 17:14 |
| haasn | Hmm, I can't even use basic utilities like `wget` anymore after this upgrade, and `zypper in wget` finds no candidates | 17:24 |
| haasn | This is so weird | 17:24 |
| haasn | Something is seriously wrong with this version of SailfishOS and the package manager O.o | 17:24 |
| haasn | seems like `pkcon` works a bit better than `zypper`. I guess the days of using a somewhat familiar interface is over | 17:25 |
| Nico[m] | You could try version --dup or zypper verify from the commandline | 17:49 |
| haasn | "Fatal error: nothing provides /bin/zsh needed by zsh-5.0.2+mer1-1.1.24.jolla.armv7hl" I don't understand this | 17:52 |
| omni | haasn: I had the exact same issue with zsh, the package is broken | 19:13 |
| omni | I worked around it with 'pkcon download packagedir zsh' and 'rpm --nodeps -i packagedir/zsh-5.0.2+mer1-1.1.24.jolla.armv7hl.rpm' | 19:14 |
| omni | the zsh binary end up as /usr/bin/zsh | 19:14 |
| omni | substitute packagedir with one of your choosing, /tmp or whatever | 19:16 |
| omni | the update broke my installation too, tried to hack it together but ended up doing a reset and then going through all stop releases | 19:18 |
| omni | didn't take me much longer than a full day, all-in-all, including a late night | 19:19 |
| alseeme | Hi! | 19:43 |
| alseeme | Can I change the service center for messages? | 19:44 |
| alseeme | I want to know if I can choose to change the app for messages with Google app "messages". | 19:45 |
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| lachs0r | haasn: this is the problem with openrepos | 22:22 |
| lachs0r | it does not use OBS and does not require uploading package sources | 22:22 |
| lachs0r | so packages never get rebuilt and you have no way to easily do it yourself either | 22:23 |
| r0kk3rz | haasn: remember to refresh after updates ;) | 22:24 |
| lachs0r | that too | 22:24 |
| lachs0r | (autorefresh is not the default) | 22:24 |
| r0kk3rz | pretty sure wget is in mer-tools | 22:25 |
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