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| entil | Fatal error: Download (curl) error for 'https://releases.jolla.com/releases/2.1.3.5/jolla/armv7hl/mw/noarch/cutes-json-js-0.9.2.3-1.12.1.noarch.rpm': | 06:20 |
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| entil | Error message: SSL certificate problem: self signed certificate | 06:20 |
| entil | waat | 06:20 |
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| entil | I actually think that might be a misrepresentation of a local network issue | 06:33 |
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| rmsilva | 10:43 | |
| Mister_Magister | You know that shit got serious when jolla is donating you :D | 10:44 |
| Tegu | I wonder when would landscape mode in SDL apps be supported. Apparently, there is some patch that is merged, and I suppose it has finally been released in SDL 2.0.6 whereas the version in the repos is 2.0.3. https://together.jolla.com/question/70821/request-support-sdl-landscape-mode/ On the other hand, it's not really that important. | 10:51 |
| Tegu | (for me) | 10:51 |
| r0kk3rz | oh it was merged? | 10:51 |
| r0kk3rz | we've been waiting an age for that | 10:51 |
| Tegu | The last comment: "Patch applied, thanks!" https://bugzilla.libsdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2943 | 10:52 |
| merbot | bugzilla.libsdl.org bug 2943 in video "Support for QtWayland content orientation and window flags via SDL hints" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 10:52 |
| Tegu | a year ago | 10:52 |
| Mister_Magister | Tegu: i made landscape mode manutally in my app | 10:52 |
| Tegu | yes, that's the workaround | 10:52 |
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| Mister_Magister | like rotated everything 90° | 10:52 |
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| Tegu | I'm not sure how to read the Hg logs, but I assume that the next version after that merge would contain the patch. And the next version (2.0.6) happened to be released only 5 weeks ago according to https://hg.libsdl.org/SDL and 2.0.5 was released a little before the patch | 10:55 |
| Mister_Magister | Tegu: well you can always make patch yourself if you can :D | 10:55 |
| Tegu | yea, that would require recompiling SDL2 :P | 10:56 |
| Mister_Magister | what is a problem then :D | 10:56 |
| Tegu | lazyness :D and the fact that it's not so important for me | 10:56 |
| Mister_Magister | for me too but it's annoying a bit | 10:57 |
| Mister_Magister | Tegu: with what are you using SDL2? | 10:57 |
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| Tegu | just playing with LÖVE in the device once in a while. nothing serious. | 10:58 |
| Mister_Magister | Tegu: ah okay. I once succesfully built app with oxygine engine and that's nice for making games and it's using sdl2 | 10:59 |
| r0kk3rz | Tegu: build it on obs | 10:59 |
| r0kk3rz | or at least update that TJC saying a release with it has been created | 11:01 |
| Tegu | but then I wonder how the newer SDL should be deployed. should it be linked statically with LÖVE so that it does not interfere with the SDL in the repos. or could the repo version somehow be overriden (which sounds a bit unsafe and one can just hope that it doesn't break something else) | 11:01 |
| Tegu | can the Hg be traced somehow to see where that patch ended up? I'm unfamiliar with it | 11:02 |
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| stephg | Tegu: mercurial behaves very, very much like git so finding it shouldn't be hard | 11:40 |
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| krisko | hi all, I've just instaled sailfish for the first time few days ago. So far I'm very impressed and I look forward to improvements comming in next updates | 12:16 |
| r0kk3rz | krisko: how are you finding it? | 12:16 |
| krisko | its great I love it :D I bought xperia x and tested the comunity version for a day and then I bought the SFOSX | 12:17 |
| krisko | but what bothers me is the netive mail app performance | 12:18 |
| Mister_Magister | krisko: native email app is imo the best | 12:18 |
| r0kk3rz | yes unfortunately i dont think there are any community developed alternatives for that one | 12:18 |
| Mister_Magister | i was missing that good app on android | 12:18 |
| krisko | when opening and scrolling through emails, it's not smooth at all | 12:18 |
| r0kk3rz | thats an xperia x bug i think | 12:19 |
| Mister_Magister | for me it is smooth | 12:19 |
| r0kk3rz | because the mail client uses the webkit browser engine | 12:19 |
| Mister_Magister | r0kk3rz: he is talking about scrolling through emails | 12:19 |
| Mister_Magister | not viewing them | 12:19 |
| Mister_Magister | smooth for me has to be xperiax bug | 12:21 |
| r0kk3rz | iirc there was some general performance bugs with the xperia x as well | 12:21 |
| r0kk3rz | but its still early days yet | 12:21 |
| Mister_Magister | r0kk3rz: due to big.LITTLE.SHIT | 12:23 |
| r0kk3rz | Mister_Magister: you really hate it don't you | 12:23 |
| Mister_Magister | i do | 12:23 |
| Mister_Magister | r0kk3rz: you would also, snapdragon 810 is working worse than 4yo snapdragon 400 | 12:24 |
| Mister_Magister | it's ridicoulus | 12:24 |
| krisko | thanks for the info guys! Is there some place where I can open an issue other than together.jolla.com? | 12:24 |
| Mister_Magister | if i set all little ones to be always working performance is good but battery life is 3h | 12:24 |
| r0kk3rz | krisko: thats the place to log issues :) | 12:24 |
| Mister_Magister | i'm not kidding 3/2h | 12:25 |
| krisko | r0kk3rz: great! thanks | 12:25 |
| r0kk3rz | krisko: make sure you search first | 12:25 |
| krisko | sure :) | 12:27 |
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| Mister_Magister | r0kk3rz: as you can see it's pure understandable hate | 12:28 |
| leszek | krisko: mail opening or webkit being super slow on xperia x is already reported by me | 12:43 |
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| krisko | leszek: ok, can you paste the link? | 12:51 |
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| leszek | krisko: https://together.jolla.com/question/171114/xperia-xbug-qtwebkit-unusably-slow/ | 12:52 |
| Mister_Magister | lbt: can you patternise motorola:kinzie? | 12:54 |
| Mister_Magister | devel repo | 12:54 |
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| YasigiWalter | leszek: hi! Any chance that LibreSignal will work on Sailfish X? | 13:34 |
| YasigiWalter | leszek: (with many thanks for your maintenance of it, so far) | 13:34 |
| leszek | YasigiWalter: just use the normal Signal from their official site. This one works fine with Alien Dalvik as they don't require GCM anymore | 13:35 |
| YasigiWalter | leszek: ah, so this will be the end of the Jolla Edition? | 13:36 |
| leszek | yeah. I am not planning on updating the apk | 13:36 |
| YasigiWalter | Ok, thanks for that info | 13:36 |
| leszek | moxie isn't pleased by having the name Signal in it and threatens to block it anyways | 13:37 |
| YasigiWalter | Sigh | 13:39 |
| YasigiWalter | Moxie might benefit from learning to live and let live | 13:39 |
| YasigiWalter | Either way, it was a stumbling block for me migrating from my Intex Aquafish to the Experia X | 13:40 |
| r0kk3rz | he doesnt want to have to rely upon third-party developers to keep up with any changes in Signal | 13:40 |
| r0kk3rz | its understandable, if a little hard line | 13:40 |
| YasigiWalter | r0kk3rz: Yes, he's written fairly eloquently about that. I just do not agree. | 13:40 |
| r0kk3rz | same | 13:41 |
| YasigiWalter | And there's a rather big difference between not supporting forks and actively threatening to block them | 13:41 |
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| YasigiWalter | Signal-don't-be-a-dick-Moxie | 13:41 |
| YasigiWalter | would be a good rebranding | 13:42 |
| locusf | facebookish behaviour wrt whatsapp | 13:42 |
| r0kk3rz | not really, if a fork connects to his signal servers and becomes popular enough, he'd have to support it | 13:42 |
| r0kk3rz | so by blocking them, he stops them from becoming popular | 13:42 |
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| YasigiWalter | s/have/might feel compelled | 14:01 |
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| escogido | FWIW, I installed fp2-sibon-17.10.2 and it seems MMS works fine so far. Maybe an updated modem firmware has an impact? Or maybe an issue with sailfish for fp2. Regardless, I'll be back to sailfish periodically to check in. Dual boot would be nice. | 14:03 |
| escogido | There is some issue with battery usage and newer firmware on fp2 + sfos 2.0.5.6 alpha3? | 14:05 |
| escogido | Maybe I should/could try installing sailfish 2.0.5.6 a3 over the top of the firmware I got from the newer fp open. | 14:07 |
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| Acou_Bass | woop, mr postman just came to my door with a box... time to get my sailfish X on :D | 14:16 |
| mal | escogido: with any newer firmware than the one mentioned in the instruction will have very very bad battery drain, I mean you might get 1 day of idle battery time without having anything running | 14:18 |
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| escogido | mal: understood. :) is that something I could help with possibly? is there a bug/existing ideas/research? | 14:24 |
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| mal | escogido: to fix it for sailfish I need to finish writing a new kernel driver | 14:44 |
| Mister_Magister | if anyone interested in matrix.org on sailfishos https://twitter.com/Mister1Magister/status/925009625845501952 | 14:45 |
| escogido | mm... well... if it's on your back-burner I'd be happy to dig into a bit and see if I can get anywhere. | 14:45 |
| escogido | mal: ^^^ | 14:45 |
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| leszek | oh this morsender looks quite interesting | 14:54 |
| leszek | just needs to integrate e-mail and its a blackberry hub kind of application | 14:54 |
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| blap | what is matrix.org for Mister_Magister | 14:57 |
| Mister_Magister | check it yourself? | 14:58 |
| blap | maybe you can save me some time | 14:58 |
| Mister_Magister | maybe you can not waste my time | 14:58 |
| blap | https://matrix.org/docs/spec/ ok | 14:59 |
| blap | is it good or bad, Mister_Magister ? | 14:59 |
| Mister_Magister | dunno i'm not using it | 15:00 |
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| blap | "The intention is to provide an open decentralised pubsub layer for the internet for securely persisting and publishing/subscribing JSON objects." | 15:04 |
| blap | um... | 15:05 |
| blap | do not want | 15:05 |
| r0kk3rz | blap: its basically a rebuild of XMPP | 15:06 |
| blap | ok | 15:07 |
| blap | at least it isn't lisp | 15:08 |
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| JeffHoogland | Is pyside installable on sailfish? | 15:17 |
| leszek | JeffHoogland: pyotherside you mean? Packages are available for it. I think GPodder for example uses it | 15:28 |
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| JeffHoogland | I was referring to the old Qt4 pyside bindings, but maybe it is finally time for me to learn qt5 and update my apps I've written | 15:29 |
| leszek | ah. Nope no qt4 python stuff. I wonder if there is any qt4 stuff | 15:30 |
| leszek | doesn't seem so | 15:30 |
| r0kk3rz | JeffHoogland: sailfish is QML, we dont use widgets stuff | 15:30 |
| JeffHoogland | Is Qt5 all qml? No widgets at all? | 15:31 |
| leszek | Qt5 also has widgets for the desktop mainly | 15:31 |
| JeffHoogland | Is there something like QtCreator for qml? | 15:32 |
| coderus | JeffHoogland: only for default qtquick controls, not for sfos ones. | 15:32 |
| JeffHoogland | And qtquick controls don't work in sfos I take it? | 15:34 |
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| coderus | JeffHoogland: no :) | 15:35 |
| JeffHoogland | Tilt. | 15:35 |
| coderus | only hardcore designing stuff in text mode :) | 15:36 |
| JeffHoogland | Maybe I'll learn qml then. Making GUIs by hand is a tedious amount of work though | 15:36 |
| coderus | it is fun :D | 15:36 |
| coderus | like a LEGO | 15:36 |
| r0kk3rz | JeffHoogland: QML is pretty good, i find i can get what i want quickly | 15:37 |
| JeffHoogland | Can i make Twitter links from the social feed open in an app instead of the browser? | 15:37 |
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| r0kk3rz | you'd need a router of some kind :) i dont think twitter has its own mimetype | 15:38 |
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| coderus | you can register urischeme and assign it to your favorite app | 15:40 |
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| JeffHoogland | There a tutorial for how to do that anywhere? | 15:41 |
| mal | escogido: do you have any kernel development experience, I have that driver maybe half-implemented already | 15:43 |
| escogido | mal: I have fiddled with linux/android-linux drivers a bit before but am no expert. | 15:45 |
| coderus | JeffHoogland: didn't seen anything like tutorila for this | 15:45 |
| escogido | mal: I'm a good digger though :) have hacked CM, FFOS, other C/C++ unixy things | 15:47 |
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| JeffHoogland | Is there a way to have notification prrviews on the lock screen? | 15:50 |
| JeffHoogland | right now i see the application icon, but would prefer a text preview as well like in the feed | 15:50 |
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| escogido | mal: are there build instructions somewhere for fp open + sailfish? I have found instructions for fp open but don't yet know about how that interacts with SFOS. | 16:00 |
| mal | I have never made any simple instructions for building sailfish, it's basically just following the hadk pdf but using existing repos, of course for releases I build the packages on Mer OBS | 16:01 |
| escogido | sounds good, I'll do some reading. thanks! | 16:02 |
| mal | escogido: why do you want build it yourself? | 16:03 |
| escogido | mal: wouldn't I need to in order to help with outstanding issues? battery, sensors, things like that? | 16:03 |
| mal | also I'm moving to using android 6 base soon, it's already mostly working | 16:03 |
| escogido | mal: my eventual goal would be to remove the UI and replace it with a console ;) :) Have used my geeksphone keon in this way previously for quite a while and enjoyed it. aka removed zygote and replaced with fbterm and a custom handwriting recog like grafitti | 16:07 |
| * escogido so building myself would be helpful | 16:08 | |
| r0kk3rz | escogido: you run through the HADK like everyone | 16:12 |
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| escogido | will rtfm! https://sailfishos.org/develop/hadk/ | 16:14 |
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| Acou_Bass | just wondering guys, im using SailOTP for authenticator codes, and ive exported the database from my old phone copied it to my new one | 18:04 |
| Acou_Bass | but i cant find a way to import the database on the new one | 18:04 |
| Acou_Bass | OH its in the pulley menu | 18:05 |
| Acou_Bass | ignore me :D | 18:05 |
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| YasigiWalter | Mister_Magister: ik would be good to have a Matrix client for SailFish OS. It beats bloody Slack. | 18:07 |
| Acou_Bass | id be interested to see that! | 18:08 |
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| Mister_Magister | YasigiWalter: both slack and matrix will be in this app | 18:32 |
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| juhaj | I've just tried to upgrade my AquaFish after a factory reset. First, it fails from the gui, so I tried from the terminal ssu release 2.1.2.3 && pkcon refresh && pkcon update && reboot and after that it reboots into a completely white screen. Ideas? | 20:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | juhaj: why did it fail from the gui? | 20:33 |
| juhaj | "Failed" | 20:33 |
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| juhaj | Trying ssu release 2.1.2.3 && version --dup from the console reveled "This request will break your device" | 20:34 |
| juhaj | I just flashed it again, just in case. No harm there as I hadn't even restored backups yet | 20:35 |
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| juhaj | Is Aurajoki -> Kiiminkijoki even a supported upgrade path? Just asking because there are no stop releases for AquaFish between the two | 20:36 |
| r0kk3rz | no, and according to pketo that is correct | 20:36 |
| r0kk3rz | that said a few people have had trouble with the leap | 20:37 |
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| juhaj | I seem to be one of them... Any workarounds? | 20:41 |
| juhaj | Hm... I just recovered to factory and after "preparing for update", Settings says "Could not determine size of update" | 20:42 |
| juhaj | (Downloading it now..) | 20:42 |
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| juhaj | "Could not update Sailfish OS" – I'd assume it's the same error as last time, but I don't know yet as I didn't install developer mode | 20:46 |
| juhaj | (yet) | 20:46 |
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| pketo_ | remind me, what version was aurajoki? :) | 21:30 |
| pketo_ | 2.0.2... | 21:33 |
| pketo_ | sorry, the 2.0.5.6 stop release was missing from aquafish configuration | 21:36 |
| pketo_ | juhaj: ^ | 21:37 |
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| juhaj | So if I get you right, I need to ssu release 2.0.5.6 && version --dup? As the Settings -> Sailfish OS Update tries to go straight to Kiiminkijoki | 22:13 |
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| pketo_ | juhaj: I fixed the config and it should offer 2.0.5.6 from the UI if you check for updates again | 22:47 |
| juhaj | Ok, Haapajoki successfully installed | 22:49 |
| juhaj | Yes, it did, for a second until it realised it already IS at 2.0.5.6 :) | 22:49 |
| juhaj | (I installed it from terminal by hand) | 22:49 |
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| juhaj | Ok, looks better: now the GUI at least knows what the size of Kiiminkijoki update is | 22:50 |
| juhaj | And the download does not fail as early as before (it may not fail at all – it's still going) | 22:51 |
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| juhaj | pketo_: Since I seem to have bumped into someone with inside connections :) can you tell me if content recovery (from time before borked 2.1.2.3 update and a factory reset) is possible or feasible? I have scp -r of the root filesystem (which I took while in recovery mode and I could rsync -vau back) and also a tarball of all of /home | 22:53 |
| juhaj | untarring /home back should be fine for user data, but what about installed apps etc? I also note that android software is on /home on AquaFish, so will the untar actually bring all of those back? | 22:55 |
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| juhaj | Ok, 2.1.2.3 updating now (using GUI) | 23:19 |
| pketo_ | juhaj: I would not try to restore the root fs, stuff under /home might work but not sure about that either | 23:26 |
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