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| coderus | BSOD SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION when trying to start build engine vm on my windows 10 machine :( | 11:45 |
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| coderus | Oh, it seems to be windows issue, Vbox can't function with Hyper-V enabled, but i need both... | 11:58 |
| coderus | Okay, now server (mersdk) rejecting key. Wtf? | 12:10 |
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| dorni | I had the same problem with the emulator VM yesterday, but I couldn't fix it | 13:02 |
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| r0kk3rz | if they key is rejected you're kinda boned... | 13:23 |
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| MikeWallaceDev | Hello everyone,I'm tired of the big 2 smartphone OS'. What high end phones (recent) is Sailfish available on? | 16:37 |
| MikeWallaceDev | I've googled, but the lists that I found seem old. | 16:37 |
| Tegu | in the fall, Sailfish will be available for Sony Xperia X. As far as I know, there are no other recent phones with official Sailfish https://blog.jolla.com/sailfishx/ | 16:40 |
| MikeWallaceDev | I don't want to wait for the fall, I want to order today! :D | 16:40 |
| MikeWallaceDev | I'll check out the blog | 16:41 |
| MikeWallaceDev | If you have a recent device list, that would be appreciated. | 16:41 |
| MikeWallaceDev | I have the one on Wikipedia, but I don't trust it | 16:41 |
| Tegu | I don't really have a list. On the other hand, there really aren't many phones with an official Sailfish. do you count unofficial ports? | 16:43 |
| MikeWallaceDev | as long as they are stable, no problem. | 16:43 |
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| MikeWallaceDev | I'm a software developer, I can handle installing and configuring anything. But I don't want to "play with" this phone, I want to use it. My day job is Android, so I have to play with that. But I'm sick of Google, so I want out! :D | 16:45 |
| dorni | only list I found is this one: https://reviewjolla.blogspot.de/p/devices.html | 16:47 |
| Tegu | I don't really know, sorry. Hopefully someone else happens to read thiese messages. Additionally, there is this channle #sailfishos-porters | 16:47 |
| kimmoli | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 16:48 |
| MikeWallaceDev | oh, thanks dorni and tegu | 16:48 |
| MikeWallaceDev | yeah, porters might be a good idea :) | 16:48 |
| MikeWallaceDev | oh, I think kimmoli found the motherload! | 16:49 |
| kimmoli | and if there is no device that you like, port one? :) | 16:49 |
| MikeWallaceDev | I really don't have time to play around with Sailfish, sorry. For this, you'll have to consider me just a user. | 16:50 |
| MikeWallaceDev | Although, I see that app dev is in C++ and I really miss C++, java sucks so bad | 16:50 |
| kimmoli | c++ and qml/javascript, or python or... | 16:51 |
| kimmoli | i can only recommend oneplusX, as that is what i use (and maintain the port) | 16:52 |
| MikeWallaceDev | AHA!! So if it screws up, I know who to blame!! DONE! | 16:52 |
| MikeWallaceDev | :D | 16:52 |
| MikeWallaceDev | No, seriously, that's the one that I am looking at :) | 16:53 |
| kimmoli | but most of the devices are not actively sold anymore | 16:53 |
| MikeWallaceDev | yeah, that's what bothers me.. Everything seems old. Or at least "not up to date" | 16:53 |
| kimmoli | fp2 port is also mature (altough the developer calls it still alpha) | 16:54 |
| MikeWallaceDev | Does OnePlusX mean all of the OnePlus'? | 16:54 |
| kimmoli | no. oneplus X | 16:54 |
| MikeWallaceDev | like does it work with One Plus One? | 16:54 |
| MikeWallaceDev | oh. Ok. | 16:54 |
| kimmoli | there is another port for 1+1 | 16:54 |
| Tegu | ask their marketing guy why the name :D | 16:54 |
| MikeWallaceDev | haha | 16:55 |
| kimmoli | i have heard work in progress for 3/3T | 16:55 |
| kimmoli | but if you need (for reason or other) to use Android apps, ports do not offer support for them | 16:56 |
| MikeWallaceDev | I just don't know devices that well, I thought X was used as a variable :) | 16:57 |
| MikeWallaceDev | oh wait... Find7, I think I have one of those somewhere. | 17:01 |
| MikeWallaceDev | What does the table mean when it has "QWERTY" in the "Home" column? | 17:01 |
| TheKit | QWERTY keyboard | 17:03 |
| MikeWallaceDev | but what does that mean? | 17:03 |
| MikeWallaceDev | Home == Qweerty keyboard doesn't mean anything to me | 17:03 |
| TheKit | http://phonesdata.com/files/models/Sony%20Ericsson-Xperia-pro-380.jpg | 17:04 |
| TheKit | it's just the table not exactly suited for qwerty phones | 17:05 |
| TheKit | it means like "it has qwerty keyboard instead of only home button" :) | 17:05 |
| MikeWallaceDev | ok, so it's a hardware keyboard. | 17:05 |
| MikeWallaceDev | OH! | 17:05 |
| MikeWallaceDev | wait... That picture has both | 17:05 |
| MikeWallaceDev | hardware keyboard and home button | 17:05 |
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| kimmoli | sailfish has no use for the home et.al. android navigation buttons. | 17:19 |
| MikeWallaceDev | how does navigation work? | 17:25 |
| MikeWallaceDev | oh, I can install on my Old Nexus Prime (I refuse to call it Galaxy Nexus!! :D ) | 17:26 |
| MikeWallaceDev | What about the Jolla devices? | 17:33 |
| kimmoli | navigation with gestures | 17:37 |
| MikeWallaceDev | ok, so the navigation is part of the OS and not part of the apps | 17:37 |
| kimmoli | the silica framework brings it to apps too | 17:38 |
| MikeWallaceDev | I prefer it not being in the apps :) | 17:39 |
| kimmoli | but basically swipe starting outside screen is system gesture, and inside screen is for apps | 17:40 |
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| MikeWallaceDev | gotcha | 17:40 |
| MikeWallaceDev | Ok, thanks, I'll continue my research! | 17:42 |
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