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| abranson | chriadam: about the whole QtOrganizer thing - is there anything suitable to start from for a backend instead of starting from scratch, or are they all too heavy? | 07:40 |
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| chriadam | abranson: the QtMobility mkcal backend will make a good starting point for the interim stage | 07:44 |
| chriadam | https://github.com/qtproject/qt-mobility/tree/master/plugins/organizer/mkcal | 07:44 |
| abranson | the one that's currently used? | 07:44 |
| chriadam | no | 07:44 |
| chriadam | currently we don't use QtOrganizer at all | 07:44 |
| abranson | i mean mkcal | 07:44 |
| chriadam | yes, we use mkcal | 07:45 |
| chriadam | (which is an extension to plus backend for kcalcore) | 07:45 |
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| abranson | but you'd like to replace that in the long run? | 07:45 |
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| chriadam | abranson: yes | 07:45 |
| chriadam | https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/mkcal | 07:45 |
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| abranson | thx. i've played with it and the nemo plugin briefly to get events out, but haven't seen the structure of it | 07:46 |
| abranson | the qt-mobility seems ideal. will it use the existing db with no migration? | 07:47 |
| chriadam | not guaranteed, but mkcal hasn't changed much since it was written | 07:47 |
| chriadam | abranson: the bigger issue is that QtOrganizer _has_ changed a bit since QtMobility days | 07:48 |
| chriadam | and I can't remember precisely how. the id format has probably changed, no doubt a variety of minor API tweaks... generally a bit of a headache. | 07:49 |
| chriadam | field keys are now enums instead of strings | 07:49 |
| chriadam | that sort of thing | 07:49 |
| abranson | hmm. i think ubuntu are using the evolution backend on UT. i thought i'd look to see if their implementation could help. | 07:50 |
| abranson | but it sounds like you've got it planned out already! | 07:50 |
| chriadam | for some definition of "planned" ;-) | 07:50 |
| abranson | :) | 07:51 |
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| abranson | is it worth bothering with the next stage once QtOrganizer is in? It seems like a lot of work under the hood. Does mkcal make the sync stuff more of a pain? | 07:52 |
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| chriadam | mkcal code quality isn't fantastic. for example the unit tests don't all succeed, currently, afaik, and it will take more time getting to know the codebase than I have to spare, to figure out if the failures are "expected" (i.e., mkcal engine is correct, but unit tests need to be changed to reflect the current behaviour) or whether mkcal is just broken | 07:54 |
| chriadam | secondly, we're currently upstream for mkcal, as no-one else is using it... | 07:54 |
| chriadam | whereas with QtOrganizer, if we wrote a qtorganizer-sqlite backend, the QtProject would take it as a reference plugin | 07:55 |
| chriadam | ablasche was open to taking the qtcontacts-sqlite backend, similarly, once we clean it up and update it to the latest API changes and remove some cruft | 07:55 |
| chriadam | then, it becomes something which has at least more of a community around than "just us". Ubuntu might look to use it, at some stage, if it gets into QtProject, for example. | 07:56 |
| abranson | that's brilliant | 07:56 |
| abranson | a very good place to be | 07:57 |
| chriadam | I guess the biggest reason, long-term, is maintainability. my mantra is "reduce external dependencies". | 07:57 |
| chriadam | but that's long term. in the medium term, I expect an mkcal-based QtOrganizer backend would suffice for everythign we need (esp third party story etc) | 07:57 |
| abranson | not a very fashionable mantra, but look at the trouble they're all getting themselves in as a result ;) | 07:58 |
| chriadam | indeed. | 07:59 |
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| abranson | what's the target version of qtorganizer to support? the latest? | 08:02 |
| chriadam | yes, latest dev. QtPIM as a module is "almost" ready to be officially released by the QtProject as an add-on module, once I do a couple of things: | 08:03 |
| chriadam | 1) get https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/154949 (and the other changes in that changeset) to merge | 08:03 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson: i would expect the plan is to get on a newer qt before looking at things like qtorganiser | 08:03 |
| chriadam | 2) do a style / whitespace / cleanup commit for both QtContacts and QtOrganizer | 08:03 |
| chriadam | r0kk3rz: mjones is currently doing the Qt5.6 update work. | 08:03 |
| r0kk3rz | chriadam: woaaaaaah progress! | 08:04 |
| r0kk3rz | fingers crossed it goes smoother than qt 5.2 | 08:04 |
| chriadam | once QtPIM gets released as an add-on module officially by upstream, then we can support it in sfos. | 08:04 |
| chriadam | r0kk3rz: indeed | 08:04 |
| chriadam | it should. w00t did a lot of work already (when we were considering updating to 5.5), and there's no QML engine rewrite inbetween us and a working stack, this time ;-) | 08:05 |
| abranson | i heard it wasn't so bad for UT. the move to 5 was huge in comparison | 08:05 |
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| abranson | then if i understand correctly, 5.6 is a keeper. | 08:05 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson: i think ut is more willing to ship stuff in a broken state then jolla is | 08:06 |
| abranson | :D | 08:06 |
| kimmoli | orienteeringcompass and quakefish needs adapting to screen sizes | 08:06 |
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| abranson | chriadam: thanks very much for the info, will get familiar with all of that. i also need to figure out building Qt in QtCreator - there's some testing component need to look into. | 08:19 |
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| r0kk3rz | abranson: you might be better off with the platform toolkit, or using osc build with merobs | 08:20 |
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| abranson | i managed to do it directly in the mersdk vm when i built the websockets plugin, but it seemed like something qtcreator should be able to do. | 08:21 |
| r0kk3rz | provided theres some kind of .pro file | 08:22 |
| chriadam | np, thanks for your willingness to help out :-) | 08:23 |
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| FloR707 | Hi, I want to update my Qt Creator but I am getting an error telling me about an TypeError: Cannot call method 'indexOf' undefined | 15:36 |
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| FloR707 | shall I just load a new version or will this have an negative impact? | 15:37 |
| FloR707 | '/var/folders/lf/vhq0cwcs6dxbl79tsvtz128h0000gq/T/remoterepo-ubtP0y/org.merproject.mersdk/installscript.qs'. (TypeError: Cannot call method 'indexOf' of undefined) | 15:38 |
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| bonfus | Hi, I'm about to store an image of my phone on my pc. Two questions: 1) should I use gzip on the phone or not? 2) should I store all the mmcblk0 device or just a specific partition? | 19:51 |
| bonfus | (sorry, forgot to mention I have a jolla phone) | 19:52 |
| coderus | btrfs have no partitions, so fill device | 19:54 |
| coderus | and compression is your taste | 19:54 |
| bonfus | coderus: ok, thanks. I just realized I'm experiencing a strange behavior. If I do 'echo "ciao" | nc 10.42.66.67 62222' on the receiver side I get a lot of blank lines... | 19:56 |
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| bonfus | my mistake. Everything fine with nc. Suggestion about block size? Or the default (dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 | nc 10.42.66.67 62222) will do? | 20:05 |
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| urjaman | some kilobytes ... | 20:08 |
| bonfus | urjaman: thanks | 20:09 |
| urjaman | (i'd go with 32k) | 20:09 |
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| bonfus | done, thanks again for your support! | 20:35 |
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| TheRealJohnGalt2 | What do people use for twitter apps since tweetian lost support? | 23:06 |
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