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| KeeperoftheKeys | Hi, anyone around?\ | 08:22 |
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| Bysmyyr | maybe | 08:25 |
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| KeeperoftheKeys | I am banging my head into the wall trying to get qml SoundEffect to work.... it keeps giving me this error: QSoundEffectPrivate::decoderError:779 - QSoundEffect(pulseaudio): Error decoding source | 08:31 |
| KeeperoftheKeys | I have tried "file:///" "qrc:/" (with a resouce file) "relative/path" as source, I have tried bith .wav and .mp3 files and nothing seems to work | 08:32 |
| urjaman | okay i was typing something you already tried, so ... i dunno | 08:33 |
| KeeperoftheKeys | I even tried normal qtcreator because I figured maybe the files aren't being copied to the emulator so I tried a plain qml command.... | 08:33 |
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| pykape | KeeperoftheKeys: hi, I used Audacity to encode my wav files to Microsoft wav files, those work | 08:48 |
| pykape | others I could never get to work | 08:48 |
| pykape | this was on a physical device, I never use the emulator | 08:49 |
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| chem|st | KeeperoftheKeys: don't know if related but I thing parsing odd filenames might be an issue, at least I got issues in backup and buteo if they have eg spaces (yeah really it cannot handle files with spaces) | 09:02 |
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| KeeperoftheKeys | so a mplayer pcm dump of an mp3 should not work.... good to know am going to try | 09:06 |
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| KeeperoftheKeys | (I wasn't aware that there were different versions of wav) | 09:07 |
| KeeperoftheKeys | As far as the filename goes I named it tick.wav/tick.mp3 exactly for fear of that.... | 09:08 |
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| pykape | KeeperoftheKeys: I did not either and maybe there is not, but re-encoding with Audacity has always resolved all my SoundEffect issues | 09:40 |
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| KeeperoftheKeys | I'll try thanks :) | 09:49 |
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| leszek | the tablet seems to be really unusuable for media consumption. It overheats constantly when watching HD videos and that before the battery runs out of juice. So watching a podcast that goes round about 1 hour is impossible as it overheats and shuts down wifi. I wonder if there is a way for Jolla to fix this with a software update as I suspect that hd video should be hardware accelerated and not overheat the device. We are in fucking 2016 now | 10:09 |
| leszek | ow wow 44 hours to upload the firefox. WTF | 10:11 |
| leszek | ok wifi died again | 10:12 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | leszek: in the contrary, I find it to be pretty good | 10:33 |
| SfietKonstantinW | wathing HD vids | 10:33 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but agree that the battery is drained at a very fast pace | 10:33 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and that it become hotter | 10:33 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but this happens on J1/ Fairphone too | 10:33 |
| leszek | SfietKonstantinW: so it does not overheat for you ? Hmm... | 10:33 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and also NExus 7 tablet | 10:33 |
| SfietKonstantinW | it is a bit hot | 10:33 |
| SfietKonstantinW | not overheat | 10:33 |
| leszek | when it gets hot here it shuts down wifi and bt | 10:34 |
| leszek | and that is unusable until it cools down | 10:34 |
| leszek | thats what makes it unusable for me | 10:34 |
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| NeKit | leszek, so overheating is also an issue on Jolla Tablet? | 10:36 |
| leszek | NeKit: at least for me it looks like overheating as it is hot when wifi and bt turn themself off | 10:36 |
| leszek | On the Jolla Phone I never had that issue and not on other devices | 10:37 |
| Krikke | my jolla phone will overheat if running graphics intensive games | 10:38 |
| Krikke | like hearthstone android app | 10:38 |
| Krikke | the screen will even turn yellow | 10:39 |
| Krikke | from the heat | 10:39 |
| Krikke | permanently | 10:39 |
| leszek | Krikke: interesting. Never experienced that. But I only play angry birds regulary and never had that | 10:40 |
| r0kk3rz | the back cover design acts as a pretty good insulator | 10:40 |
| Krikke | well it has pixel shaders and everything | 10:40 |
| leszek | Still taking a look at the cpu usage when playing a video fullscreen it is using appr. 40% of CPU (like top shows me). I think it should not use the CPU that much. It should use the GPU more. Thats the reason I think its a software issue | 10:43 |
| r0kk3rz | leszek: you'd be using your native video player yeah? | 10:44 |
| leszek | yeah | 10:44 |
| r0kk3rz | could be an interesting experiment to try an android player | 10:44 |
| leszek | good idea | 10:45 |
| leszek | will take a look | 10:45 |
| leszek | yeah even if opening another app now and having the video running in the background and its not visible basically cpu usage drops to 17% | 10:46 |
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| leszek | r0kk3rz: same problem with an android player. At least for some seconds (30sec) it uses even more like 45% CPU and then it goes down to 24-25% | 10:53 |
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| leszek | oh my sailfish-browser seems even worse using 120% CPU | 10:59 |
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| leszek | but in general its an overheating issue. Reading the dmesg output it seems like the CPU is protecting itself against a meltdown and turns wifi off | 11:23 |
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| Thaodan | SfietKonstantinW: when will battery live improved? | 11:35 |
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| Acce | Krikke: I have a similar color error in the upper left corner of the phone, probably due to heating | 11:39 |
| Krikke | k | 11:39 |
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| Acce | I guess it just is not easy to make good heat design in cheap hardware | 11:40 |
| r0kk3rz | the display yellowing is a known issue with the sbj | 11:50 |
| r0kk3rz | but heat dissapation is a side benefit for solid body phones with metal backs | 11:51 |
| Krikke | sbj? | 11:51 |
| urjaman | jolla 1 | 11:52 |
| Krikke | ok | 11:52 |
| Krikke | this is even my second screen on it | 11:52 |
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| leszek | I am giving up on the tablet. Will land in electronic garbage next time I have time to bring it there | 11:58 |
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| Krikke | send it to me :D | 12:00 |
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| SpeedEvil | Some may even give you a small amount for it. Consider posting on mailing lists, or ... Don't throw it away please. | 12:10 |
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| leszek | I am just mad at it currently. Maybe I change my mind | 12:12 |
| NeKit | leszek, an option might be to downclock CPU (disable Turbo Mode in BIOS if you can enter it) | 12:12 |
| NeKit | no idea what kind of UEFI firmware do they use, but it's usually present on similar Intel-based devices | 12:13 |
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| r0kk3rz | NeKit: theres probably a way to tune the govenor so it throttles a bit earlier instead of underclocking | 12:26 |
| leszek | r0kk3rz: yeah trying this now 400 Mhz less: echo 1426000 | tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq | 12:27 |
| leszek | and using watch grep \"cpu MHz\" /proc/cpuinfo to watch the mhz | 12:28 |
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| leszek | and overheating again | 12:57 |
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| leszek | maybe the processor is borked | 14:08 |
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| r0kk3rz | i wonder if anyone has taken one apart | 14:20 |
| leszek | r0kk3rz: the processor or the tablet ? | 14:21 |
| r0kk3rz | because surely there must be some kind of heat spreader or something internally | 14:21 |
| leszek | so you mean the tablet. Nope only a black foil kind of think sticked ontop of the processor and wifi/bt card ( hard to know whats underneath it actually) | 14:22 |
| leszek | I took my apart already | 14:22 |
| leszek | have some pics somewhere too | 14:22 |
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| leszek | r0kk3rz: here is how it looks like on the motherboard (yeah only the upper part of the tablet. The rest is basically space for battery and speakers aswell as the hack little board for the screen to show something (that they also showed off during the development and display problem posts): https://abload.de/img/20160422_010kqj0p.jpg | 14:24 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i just looked up an ipad mini tear down, looks like having the chips uncovered is fairly normal | 14:27 |
| leszek | as its dropping the wifi also when the processor is clocked down. Either its the fallback mechanism broken in the processor that turns off wifi/bt or its the gpu. Though I thought gpu is integrated on the cpu | 14:29 |
| r0kk3rz | well, its a SoC isnt it? so its all on the one die | 14:29 |
| leszek | wonder if someone from jolla who worked on this can comment | 14:29 |
| leszek | r0kk3rz: whats the second chip under that foil then ? Northbridge ? | 14:30 |
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| fledermaus | hm | 16:32 |
| fledermaus | the email app on my jolla no longer seems to want to download caldav invite attachments | 16:32 |
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| tango_ | hm any reasons some pictures would suddenly become non visible on the jolla itself? | 16:59 |
| fledermaus | in what context? | 17:00 |
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| kontio | Jare: Nrsisti: fyi: https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sdk-harbour-rpmvalidator/pull/77 | 18:19 |
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| tango_ | fledermaus: in the context of the gallery app | 18:50 |
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| fledermaus | what image format? | 18:56 |
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| fledermaus | I have to run. | 18:59 |
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