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| Nokius_work | Advent calendar of coding challenges http://adventofcode.com/ | 10:07 |
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| bluszcz | hello all, two questions, are there plans to include qt quick controls, and are there any tips / tutorials how to write max crossplatform QT/QML apps? SailifishOS but i would like also to deploy desktop and ubuntu, perhaps android soon | 10:13 |
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| chem|st | http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/ | 10:18 |
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| coderus | bluszcz: for sailfish you should make native ui | 10:53 |
| coderus | i see no reason to have one universal crossplatform ui | 10:54 |
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| rweickelt | bluszcz: just study examples, for instance "fahrplan" https://github.com/smurfy/fahrplan . if you are just starting with qt/qml, it might be wise to get your app at least running on one platform before taking the next step ;-) | 11:42 |
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| rweickelt | to anybody: how to find out the last change in a tgc thread? take for example this thread: https://together.jolla.com/question/123511/issue-2-why-jolla-deserved-to-fail-opinion/ the front page says: "updated x min ago by y", but when looking into the thread, i can not find any change today. this happens quite often and is even more difficult for multi-page threads. | 11:47 |
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| bluszcz | rweickelt: I have one application running for sailfish (veggie sailor), i want port it to ubuntu desktop and ubuntu phone app | 11:49 |
| zGrr | good article | 11:50 |
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| rweickelt | blueszcz: nice. | 11:53 |
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| tortoisedoc | ding dong | 11:59 |
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| bluszcz | and another question, I am still not 100% regarding this https://blog.jolla.com/tablet_schedule_aptoide_store/ - is there still a chance to receive a tablet or not? | 12:20 |
| tbr | bluszcz: there is a theoretical chance, _if_ they make it through debt restructuring AND get their investment round together | 12:21 |
| bluszcz | tbr: hm, ok, but it sounds like months ago correct? | 12:22 |
| bluszcz | 'sounds like months more work' | 12:22 |
| tbr | I guess if they got a "go" today, it would still take them at _least_ a month if not more | 12:23 |
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| bluszcz | hm ok. not sure what I can do now more except awaiting for more news. | 12:30 |
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| tortoisedoc | well, knowing they could make it all the way to the next year would already be a game changer | 12:42 |
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| bluszcz | tortoisedoc: yes, TBH, thats worst thjing in this situation - lack of transparent (from my point of view_ updates | 13:04 |
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| tortoisedoc | bluszcz : eh? | 13:05 |
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| bluszcz | tortoisedoc: to be honest, delay is not a worst thing ever, but lack of info regareding delays and know this hang between something moment is not nice | 13:06 |
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| tortoisedoc | ah | 13:08 |
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| cybette | 7 min to community collaboration meeting in #mer-meeting | 14:23 |
| kengu | hmm | 14:24 |
| kengu | community meeting | 14:24 |
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| coderus | meetin! | 14:31 |
| lainwir3d | :o | 14:32 |
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| FloR707 | sorry but I have another stupid question. From my xml file I get an Unix time stamp (I assume this is a QString) and I would like to convert this in a readable date, again QString. Is this possible in C++? | 20:31 |
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| FloR707 | time.fromTime_t(eventTime); returns QDateTime(" Qt::LocalTime") where eventTime is the timeStamp from the xml. I read the xml file with QXmlStreamReader | 20:33 |
| FloR707 | I do int eventTime = xml->readElementText().toInt(); before to compare the timeStamp. | 20:34 |
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| FloR707 | Got it -> QDateTime eventTime = QDateTime::fromTime_t(xml->readElementText().toInt()); | 20:45 |
| FloR707 | Thought I had tried that… | 20:45 |
| Ischwitz | uh does anyone know if there's any a bit sharper headed stylus pens around? Not those with the round rubber head | 20:47 |
| Ischwitz | that would work on jolla | 20:48 |
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| Ischwitz | okay it seems yes. just gotta find the best for my needs | 20:50 |
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| Ischwitz | okay, so I'm still sort of learning these terms so I'm assuming that jolla phone has capacitive touchscreen? | 20:56 |
| TemeV | Ischwitz: correct | 20:56 |
| Ischwitz | okay thanks | 20:57 |
| Ischwitz | ookay, then I haven't actually found a sharp stylus pen compatible with jolla so I'm open to suggestions if anyone has any | 20:58 |
| TemeV | Afaik sharp stylus is not really possible with capacitive touch | 20:59 |
| r0kk3rz | TemeV: most ones ive seen are bluetooth devices that screw with the touchscreen driver | 21:01 |
| Ischwitz | damn | 21:01 |
| Ischwitz | unfortunate | 21:01 |
| r0kk3rz | or do some weird capacitive thing to make them seem larger than they are, or something | 21:01 |
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| Ischwitz | this claims to be compatible with all capacitive screens http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fine-Point-Round-Thin-Tip-Capacitive-Stylus-Pen-For-iPad-2-3-4-Air-2-iPhone-6S-6-/262130711242?hash=item3d08353aca:g:J4kAAOSwT5tWPHyq | 21:08 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah, odd end design | 21:10 |
| r0kk3rz | wonder how sharp it feels to use | 21:11 |
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| kimmoli | interesting | 21:14 |
| Ischwitz | is there a reason why the stylus pen head can't be shaped into a sharp shape | 21:15 |
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| kimmoli | capacitive needs area | 21:15 |
| kimmoli | that is in contact with glass | 21:15 |
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| Ischwitz | oh, that explains | 21:15 |
| kimmoli | airgap ruins capacitance | 21:16 |
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| kimmoli | that transparent conductive "disk" looks nice, if the touchscreen takes the touch on its center-point | 21:17 |
| Ischwitz | yeah | 21:17 |
| Ischwitz | I could try and order one of those though, if it happens to be nice one for some sketching | 21:17 |
| kimmoli | with paint :P | 21:18 |
| Ischwitz | I prefer papocchio | 21:18 |
| TemeV | kimmoli: well, to be precise, it doesn't have to be in contact with the glass. But I guess you know that ;) | 21:19 |
| TemeV | r0kk3rz: how do those bluetooth things work? | 21:19 |
| kimmoli | area gets larger then.. | 21:19 |
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| TemeV | yeah, of course | 21:20 |
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| kimmoli | afaiu BT things add buttons and possibly force-sensing to stylus | 21:20 |
| kimmoli | javispedro did some testing with jolla, hacked kernel and stuff. | 21:20 |
| TemeV | yeah, I've heard about those, but that's not what r0kk3rz said | 21:20 |
| Ischwitz | would be nice to have a force sensitive pen | 21:21 |
| kimmoli | only ref i have.. https://github.com/javispedro/paint/commit/a4d155a5dc565d73cfa18124930ccb97cf97e9a9 | 21:22 |
| kimmoli | there seems also be some x,y coordinates | 21:22 |
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| TemeV | interesting | 21:24 |
| TemeV | I wonder what it uses for positioning | 21:24 |
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| r0kk3rz | Ischwitz: pressure sensitive ones exist | 21:27 |
| r0kk3rz | TemeV: i cant find the super clever one i saw a while ago, seemed to have quite a number of tricks up its sleeve | 21:27 |
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| r0kk3rz | in both with electronically frigging with the screen, and bluetoothing things | 21:27 |
| FloR707 | Since the last Qt Creator update it crashes regularly. Is this me or was the last update not so good? | 21:28 |
| Ischwitz | r0kk3rz, compatible with jolla too? | 21:31 |
| r0kk3rz | Ischwitz: jolla compatibillity is always on a case by case basis | 21:31 |
| r0kk3rz | as the marketing materials wont ever say either way | 21:32 |
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| Ischwitz | but I don't actually understand how is that possible without any additional information that the pen sends to the device via bt or what ever | 21:33 |
| Ischwitz | or is it | 21:33 |
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| r0kk3rz | Ischwitz: any bluetooth enabled ones, assume that 'some assembly may be required' | 21:38 |
| r0kk3rz | non bluetooth ones should be fine, as the touchscreen is just a touchscreen after all | 21:38 |
| r0kk3rz | particularly because the jphone doesnt do BLE or bluetooth 4 | 21:40 |
| Ischwitz | I meant pressure sensitive in general for jolla | 21:40 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah pressure sensitive is always going to work via bluetooth | 21:41 |
| Ischwitz | yes, then I have understood correctly | 21:41 |
| r0kk3rz | unless it makes a big deal about being pressure sensitive and not requiring batteries | 21:42 |
| sakustar | how do the ones with no batteries work | 21:42 |
| sakustar | magic? | 21:43 |
| Ischwitz | solar panels of course | 21:43 |
| sakustar | no the wacom? ones in samsung notes and ms surface | 21:43 |
| sakustar | since you can draw through a book it feels they work with magic | 21:44 |
| sakustar | :( | 21:44 |
| Ischwitz | I'm guessing they have pressure sensitive screens | 21:45 |
| r0kk3rz | sakustar: i was referring to a hypothical stylus that works via magic and pixies and unicorns | 21:45 |
| sakustar | pressure sens is in the styluses | 21:45 |
| Ischwitz | haha | 21:45 |
| sakustar | since the note2 pen offers much more limited range of line width than a surface / tablet note pen | 21:46 |
| r0kk3rz | but yeah wacoms do all kinds of voodoo, since they do work even when the pen isnt touching the pad | 21:46 |
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| sakustar | but its still nice that they work across devices | 21:46 |
| sakustar | even on a winxp hp elitebook :) | 21:47 |
| sakustar | doesnt support pressure tho | 21:47 |
| sakustar | wacom ones are fun to mess around with | 21:50 |
| sakustar | just wish the surface wasnt such a poor product designwise | 21:53 |
| sakustar | the screen gluing melted off once already and the glass almost popped out :) | 21:53 |
| sakustar | thanks for not hibernating while inside a bag windows | 21:54 |
| Ischwitz | lol | 21:54 |
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| sakustar | but this thing still generates too much heat even while only using metro apps, sometimes its so hot you can barely hold it with the keyboard between the metal back and your hands :P | 21:57 |
| sakustar | i feel kinda sorry for using my old one to compile stuff :( | 21:59 |
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| sakustar | ps. anyone wanna trade a surface pro for a jolla tablet? | 22:00 |
| sakustar | :D | 22:00 |
| r0kk3rz | sakustar: for sure! who has a jolla tablet? | 22:01 |
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| Ischwitz | I'm glad I'm not that active visual artist that I would've gotten myself some actual digital drawing tools | 22:03 |
| Ischwitz | on the other hand it would be nice if I was | 22:03 |
| Ischwitz | maybe some day | 22:04 |
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| r0kk3rz | TemeV: http://www.adonit.net/jot/dash/ i think this was it | 22:29 |
| r0kk3rz | this particular model doesnt do bluetooth, but still takes batteries | 22:29 |
| r0kk3rz | so i can only conclude that its doing funky things with the screen | 22:29 |
| Ischwitz | works on android. may not be too hard to get it work on jolla then | 22:31 |
| r0kk3rz | Ischwitz: its not bluetooth, so it should just work | 22:31 |
| Ischwitz | but the pressure sensitivity is only on bluetooth versions | 22:32 |
| r0kk3rz | yes | 22:33 |
| Ischwitz | do those cheaper ones also need battery for something? | 22:34 |
| Ischwitz | maybe it's only for the bluetooth ones | 22:34 |
| Ischwitz | if so, then it's just a more expensive version of what I linked | 22:36 |
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| Ischwitz | well, maybe more of quality but anyway | 22:38 |
| r0kk3rz | the one i linked is powered, but no bluetooth | 22:39 |
| r0kk3rz | those other ones? no idea | 22:39 |
| r0kk3rz | i havent used them, so no idea if its worth the price | 22:39 |
| Ischwitz | only the three cheapest ones are not bluetooth | 22:40 |
| Ischwitz | oh, you meant the dash one | 22:40 |
| Ischwitz | I just looked at the chart on the bottom | 22:41 |
| Ischwitz | the bluetooth is probably replacing the precision disk feature which is on the cheaper ones | 22:42 |
| Ischwitz | no what | 22:42 |
| Ischwitz | it didn't have bluetooth, what am I saying | 22:42 |
| Ischwitz | okay I don't know then | 22:42 |
| Ischwitz | the battery has something to do with some sort of trick to make the head responsing with the screen I guess? as it isn't a rubber tip | 22:45 |
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| r0kk3rz | Ischwitz: that is also what i'm guessing | 22:47 |
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