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| Ingvix | would it be hard to create an icon to the app grip that opens terminal and runs bash file as root? | 09:15 |
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| corvinux | secure sailfish someone ? | 09:28 |
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| BluesLee_ | hi | 09:46 |
| BluesLee_ | i can't reactivate developer mode on a nexus5 as it says 'problem with jolla-store'. the issue is that i can't drop a repository adaptation0 which is needed for that. any ideas how to handle the issue? | 09:48 |
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| coderus | Ingvix: install sudo, setup sudoers to execute your script with no password, in desktop file execute sudo yourscript. | 10:08 |
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| Ingvix | how do I create desktop file? | 10:12 |
| Ingvix | where should I put it | 10:12 |
| coderus | /usr/share/applications or /home/nemo/.local/share/applications | 10:12 |
| Ingvix | I guess I also find example there | 10:13 |
| coderus | yes | 10:13 |
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| Geiles_Leben | Hello, do the jolla have a screen protection | 10:20 |
| coderus | Geiles_Leben: official no | 10:23 |
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| Geiles_Leben | ok, so i must buy one | 10:26 |
| Geiles_Leben | thx, bb | 10:26 |
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| Ingvix | is there any way to gain access to root folder with windows | 10:42 |
| tbr | scp | 10:43 |
| tbr | from windows that would be winscp or another scp client | 10:43 |
| tbr | either over wifi or in developer mode over USB | 10:44 |
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| Ingvix | ok | 10:46 |
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| Ingvix | where are the app grid icons stored? | 10:55 |
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| kimmoli | https://harbour.jolla.com/faq | 11:00 |
| coderus | total commander sftp plugin, filezilla, mobaxterm, winscp | 11:02 |
| coderus | prefer using mobaxterm, its awesome | 11:02 |
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| coderus | its like putty + winscp + vnc viewer + more features and working way better than all of these software | 11:04 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | is cygwin ... on steroids | 11:12 |
| Ingvix | seems nice | 11:13 |
| coderus | dr_gogeta86: yeah :) | 11:13 |
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| coderus | ssh sessions with tabs, automatic sftp client with tracking changes, x forwarding (not for sailfish, but still) | 11:14 |
| Ingvix | does it really matter which size I choose for the icon | 11:14 |
| coderus | Ingvix: well, 86x86 is optimized one | 11:15 |
| coderus | or phone | 11:15 |
| leszek | Ingvix: it depends on which sailfishOS versions your apps needs to run. The older versions tend to more support and optimize for 86x86 | 11:15 |
| Ingvix | okay, I go with that | 11:15 |
| dr_gogeta86 | coderus, i need X on tablet at least | 11:15 |
| coderus | other sized depends on screen resolution of device | 11:15 |
| dr_gogeta86 | sometimes is usefull | 11:15 |
| coderus | Ingvix: because sailfish is not only for jolla phone :) | 11:15 |
| Ingvix | I'm using it for the phone | 11:15 |
| Ingvix | I know | 11:15 |
| coderus | so 86x86 is one for jolla phone | 11:16 |
| Ingvix | yea okay | 11:16 |
| corvinux | does anyone have any news about secure sailfishos | 11:17 |
| coderus | leszek: he is just started using sailfishos with hacking bash scripting and creating some more useful environment than terminal :D | 11:17 |
| coderus | corvinux: nothing was announced since year | 11:17 |
| dr_gogeta86 | coderus, DIT -> DIY | 11:17 |
| dr_gogeta86 | if you can | 11:18 |
| Ingvix | in the desktop entry do I type bash as Type or just Application? | 11:18 |
| coderus | dr_gogeta86: what you mean? | 11:18 |
| coderus | Ingvix: application | 11:18 |
| Ingvix | okay | 11:19 |
| coderus | http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-1.0.html#value-types | 11:19 |
| coderus | read this | 11:19 |
| Ingvix | okay thanks | 11:19 |
| coderus | http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-1.0.html#recognized-keys | 11:20 |
| coderus | sailfish supports only some of values, not everything | 11:20 |
| coderus | it have own x-nemo extension over desktop specification | 11:20 |
| coderus | but you can get basic ideas how it works | 11:21 |
| Ingvix | yea | 11:21 |
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| Ingvix | so does it open terminal when I launch it because it requires user input? | 11:25 |
| urjaman | no | 11:26 |
| coderus | no, it execute executable | 11:26 |
| urjaman | if you want to launch a terminal, you need to launch a terminal | 11:26 |
| coderus | Terminal: true | 11:26 |
| coderus | in desktop | 11:26 |
| Ingvix | okay, thanks | 11:26 |
| coderus | https://gist.github.com/CODeRUS/c111f4609c321ab0f92a | 11:27 |
| urjaman | hmm, does sailfish actually support that? (cool if it does, but i didnt expect it to) | 11:27 |
| urjaman | well ugh | 11:28 |
| coderus | i didn't tried | 11:28 |
| coderus | but seems no | 11:28 |
| coderus | but i didnt tried it | 11:28 |
| coderus | meego supported it with no problems | 11:28 |
| coderus | so woorth a try | 11:28 |
| urjaman | coderus: what does that "Terminal=true" do in your gist ... | 11:28 |
| coderus | i just cat mc.desktop | 11:28 |
| urjaman | if it worked, that'd launch a fingerterm in fingerterm ... | 11:28 |
| coderus | then it not working | 11:28 |
| urjaman | afaik | 11:29 |
| Ingvix | ookay, so any workarounds? | 11:29 |
| urjaman | Ingvix: read the gist | 11:30 |
| Ingvix | okay | 11:30 |
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| Ingvix | what does that -e do in exec | 11:33 |
| coderus | it does execute file inside terminal, obviously :) | 11:34 |
| Ingvix | okay, obviously | 11:34 |
| Ingvix | so I put the bash file after it in quotes? | 11:38 |
| Ingvix | or... before it? I'm not really sure | 11:38 |
| Ingvix | oh, fingerterminal | 11:39 |
| Ingvix | I get it | 11:39 |
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| coderus | instead /usr/bin/mc put your file | 11:39 |
| Ingvix | yes | 11:39 |
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| Ingvix | if I leave the icon empty does it put some default icon or does it just not show any icon at all? | 11:40 |
| coderus | i dont remember | 11:41 |
| coderus | put icon-l-terminal | 11:41 |
| Ingvix | okay | 11:41 |
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| Ingvix | do I have to make it executable or is it fine as it is? | 11:45 |
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| coderus | execcutable | 11:49 |
| coderus | i said it so many times | 11:49 |
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| Ingvix | the icon is visible but it just loads for a moment when I launch it and then closes | 11:50 |
| kimmoli | if icon is not found, it is just empty | 11:51 |
| Ingvix | not opening terminal | 11:51 |
| coderus | your desktop file wrong then :) | 11:52 |
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| Ingvix | okay worked now | 11:54 |
| Ingvix | is there a simple command in bash for what in cmd is pause? that you have press any button to continue? | 11:55 |
| Ingvix | again I asked before I searched | 11:56 |
| Ingvix | and I already have an answer | 11:56 |
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| corvinux | coderus: probably the latest http://reviewjolla.blogspot.fi/2015/10/news-update-sailfish-os-secure-phone.html?m=1 | 12:11 |
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| Ingvix | can I edit sudoers with vi or do I need to use visudo which is said in the sudoers file | 12:12 |
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| coderus | you can | 12:17 |
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| blueslee | hi, i have an issue here which i cant handle myself | 12:21 |
| coderus | blueslee: issue with your phone? | 12:22 |
| blueslee | i cannot re-activate developer mode on a nexus5 | 12:22 |
| blueslee | coderus: i get the known issue "problem with jolla store" | 12:22 |
| blueslee | coderus: i have access to the sfos filesystem from android -> /data/.stowaways | 12:23 |
| blueslee | coderus: but i can install apps from the store | 12:24 |
| blueslee | dont know how to solve this one | 12:24 |
| blueslee | any ideas? | 12:25 |
| coderus | try in #sailfishos-porters | 12:26 |
| blueslee | coderus already tried, sledges is not available yet | 12:27 |
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| coderus | here is not much peoples nowadays too :) | 12:27 |
| blueslee | coderus: hehe, live goes on with or without sfos:-) | 12:29 |
| blueslee | coderus: but i have a good idea | 12:30 |
| ArtVandalae | Ingvix, just be careful editing sudoers without visudo/sudoedit -- if you make a typo, you could lock out all your sudo users. | 12:30 |
| Ingvix | okay | 12:31 |
| blueslee | coderus: not regarding the jolla / sfos issue, i mean with my dev mode issue | 12:31 |
| Ingvix | I'm not really sure how should I edit sudoers to always execute the file as root | 12:34 |
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| coderus | ArtVandalae: sudo is optional here | 12:39 |
| coderus | you can always devel-su | 12:39 |
| coderus | Ingvix: google for sudoers nopasswd script | 12:39 |
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| Ingvix | uh I know what I'm suppose to type but I'm not really sure where in sudoers file | 12:45 |
| Ingvix | or can I just type it anywhere basicly? | 12:46 |
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| coderus | :D | 12:57 |
| coderus | /etc/sudoers ofc. | 12:57 |
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| Ingvix | I said where in the sudoers file | 12:58 |
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| Ingvix | apparently nemo = NOPASSWSD: /home/nemo/mount.sh wasn't the right answer | 12:59 |
| Ingvix | maybe because I typed | 12:59 |
| Ingvix | lol | 12:59 |
| Ingvix | typod* | 13:00 |
| Ingvix | okay still wrong | 13:00 |
| coderus | nemo ALL = NOPASSWD: /home/nemo/mount.sh | 13:01 |
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| coderus | sudo /home/nemo/mount.sh now should not ask you for password, and execute your script as root | 13:04 |
| Ingvix | yes, it does that, thanks. Is there a way to make it actually shut down after the script is done? now the terminal still shows in the task manager | 13:05 |
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| coderus | em, exit? | 13:07 |
| Ingvix | it doesn't work | 13:07 |
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| coderus | dont use terminal | 13:07 |
| coderus | why you need it? | 13:07 |
| coderus | or killall fingertem :D | 13:08 |
| Ingvix | my script gives options and I have to type 1, 2 or 3 | 13:08 |
| coderus | :) | 13:09 |
| Ingvix | I guess I could make a simple gui for it but right now I don't have the skill | 13:11 |
| Ingvix | maybe later | 13:11 |
| coderus | but anyway with current sailfishos bug you cant exit application programmatically | 13:12 |
| coderus | it always will stay as cover | 13:13 |
| coderus | so use swipe to close :) | 13:13 |
| Ingvix | oh, that explains it | 13:13 |
| Ingvix | yea | 13:13 |
| Ingvix | I guess there's no command for swipe | 13:15 |
| coderus | :D | 13:15 |
| coderus | unless you have biohacked your body and can control your fingers programmatically | 13:15 |
| frinring | coderus: what bug is that? just curious. does qApp->quit() etc not work? | 13:16 |
| coderus | frinring: it works, but still cover at switcher | 13:17 |
| frinring | coderus: I see, noted, thanks | 13:18 |
| frinring | *noted in my small book of things to not be surprised by | 13:18 |
| coderus | :) | 13:20 |
| Ingvix | I made a cute little loop in the end recommending to close terminal by gesture so it won't try to shut down the terminal programically | 13:25 |
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| coderus | loop? why? | 13:26 |
| Ingvix | uh, I didn't know how to just make it stand with no possibility to it to programically shut it down | 13:27 |
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| Ingvix | stand still* | 13:28 |
| coderus | do nothing at the end | 13:28 |
| coderus | print some "you can swipe down now" | 13:28 |
| Ingvix | but it closes it if I do nothing leaving the terminal to the switcher | 13:29 |
| Ingvix | it does it automatically when the script ends | 13:29 |
| urjaman | while true; do read foo; done | 13:29 |
| urjaman | that is a loop admittedly, but not a loop printing swipe down now | 13:30 |
| urjaman | actually was... | 13:30 |
| Ingvix | while [ 1 ] | 13:31 |
| Ingvix | do | 13:31 |
| Ingvix | read -p "You can swipe terminator down now." | 13:31 |
| Ingvix | done | 13:31 |
| Ingvix | that's how I did it | 13:31 |
| * urjaman chucles | 13:31 | |
| Ingvix | tho I could've just echoed it | 13:31 |
| Ingvix | what ever | 13:31 |
| Ingvix | oh, no | 13:31 |
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| urjaman | "terminator"? | 13:32 |
| Ingvix | it would've printed the whole terminator for of it | 13:32 |
| Ingvix | oh | 13:32 |
| Ingvix | typo | 13:32 |
| Ingvix | terminal it is | 13:32 |
| urjaman | Hasta la vista, baby | 13:32 |
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| Ingvix | and that wasn't actually what I typed, just a bad translation | 13:32 |
| Ingvix | works no less | 13:33 |
| coderus | for me terminal not closing if i dont put exit/return | 13:33 |
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| Ingvix | it does for me if launched from the icon | 13:34 |
| coderus | okay | 13:36 |
| urjaman | coderus: if he runs a script directly instead of a shell, i think it'd close at end of script | 13:37 |
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| coderus | i just started fingerterm -e in ssh | 13:37 |
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| blueslee | coderus: fyi, sideloading fingerterm and installing jolla-developer-mode using zypper solved my issue | 13:54 |
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| blueslee | cu | 13:55 |
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| * satmd gives this channel a hug | 15:16 | |
| Stskeeps | aw :P | 15:17 |
| satmd | :) | 15:17 |
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| satmd | I think you guys really could use that | 15:18 |
| M4rtinK | BTW: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/11/upgrading-libhybris/ | 15:21 |
| M4rtinK | "As we now use upstream libhybris I hope to see distributions to pick up the work and provide a Plasma phone spin. I’d love to see an openSUSE phone or a Fedora phone (or any other distribution)." | 15:22 |
| M4rtinK | well, I still wonder how this is supposed to work | 15:22 |
| M4rtinK | given that there are basically no such distros running on phones at the moment | 15:23 |
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| Stskeeps | M4rtinK: weell. | 15:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:24 |
| Stskeeps | rumours had it that meltemi was opensuse based | 15:25 |
| M4rtinK | it will certainly be interesting fro historical reasons once more inside info about Meltemi shows up ;-) | 15:26 |
| M4rtinK | hmm: http://www.hadess.net/2014/08/notes-on-fedora-on-android-device.html | 15:30 |
| M4rtinK | so who knows what the future holds :) | 15:30 |
| M4rtinK | (we already have images for various arm devices: https://arm.fedoraproject.org/ ) | 15:31 |
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| eugenio | certainly it would be cool buying a phone in future, drop in my favourite distro and put a mobile DE on it :) | 15:32 |
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| M4rtinK | eugenio: +1 | 15:33 |
| M4rtinK | I really hope this becomes possible one day | 15:34 |
| eugenio | we should create something like XDG for mobile | 15:34 |
| M4rtinK | there are no fundamental hardware differences preventing this | 15:35 |
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| eugenio | well, at least I can already install Debian on my trusty n900 :) | 15:37 |
| M4rtinK | and you can even run the vanilla kernel on it :) | 15:37 |
| eugenio | yup | 15:38 |
| M4rtinK | with a surprising amount of stuff working even | 15:38 |
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| eugenio | http://elinux.org/N900 | 15:38 |
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| zoldyck | <eugenio> well, at least I can already install Debian on my trusty n900 :) | 16:37 |
| zoldyck | can you do common tasks there? (phoning, messaging, browsing, taking notes, calendaring, calculating, wake-upping with alarm, carddaving) | 16:37 |
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| leszek | I cannot start aliendalvik anymore it just sits and waits for /var/run/100000/alien_ready_to_start . Any hints on how I get it running ? And btw. it crashed or shutdown on its own | 17:13 |
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| leszek | hmm... seems like btrfs is running full again. Though I only get new mail nothing else and total usage is 7 GB only the rest is free. I will run a btrfs balance. Maybe its the metadata acting up again. I hate this | 17:18 |
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| eugenio | zoldyck, no phoning messaging and alarms. You can do the rest, but keep in mind that ìs a desktop distribution :) | 17:37 |
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| jimbojambo | Hi guys, how can I see the languages syntax highlighting on vi 7.3.629 installed by default on sailfish? | 17:40 |
| jimbojambo | :set syn=<language> don't work | 17:40 |
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| Tegu | :syntax on | 17:42 |
| Tegu | maybe? | 17:42 |
| Tegu | okay no | 17:43 |
| jimbojambo | in /etc/virc there is "syntax on" | 17:43 |
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| kimmoli | it is built with -syntax | 17:44 |
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| kimmoli | not included | 17:44 |
| kimmoli | vi --version | 17:44 |
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| jimbojambo | >.< | 17:45 |
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| kimmoli | install vim-enhanced ? | 17:46 |
| kimmoli | default is vim-minimal | 17:46 |
| jimbojambo | I'm trying | 17:47 |
| jimbojambo | Do you think is better first remove vi and then install vim-enhanced? | 17:49 |
| kimmoli | dunno | 17:50 |
| jimbojambo | or newer override the previous installation? | 17:50 |
| kimmoli | internet says no need to uninstall | 17:50 |
| jimbojambo | eheh | 17:50 |
| kimmoli | just pkcon install vim-enhanced | 17:50 |
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| kimmoli | if you have recently updated sailfish, pkcon refresh first | 17:51 |
| jimbojambo | ok, i'm refreshing and removing vi | 17:51 |
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| jimbojambo | thank you for support | 17:52 |
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| leszek | and I needed to run systemctl-user restart alien-pre-start for being able to run aliendalvik again. Just a short note for the logs for people that might run into the same issue | 17:54 |
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| jimbojambo | with the removing of vim-minimal pkcon tried to remove jolla-developer-mode-0.3.23-10.24.1.jolla.armv7hlDeveloper mode for Jolla devices | 18:02 |
| jimbojambo | vim-minimal-7.3.629-1.1.3.armv7hlA minimal version of the VIM editor | 18:02 |
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| kimmoli | heh, stupid dependencies. do not remove developer-mode... | 18:04 |
| kimmoli | just install vim-enhanced, works here. | 18:05 |
| kimmoli | now i got +syntax | 18:05 |
| M4rtinK | I'm certain one can't develop without vim anyway :) | 18:05 |
| jimbojambo | M4rtinK: do you code on the phone with another editor? | 18:07 |
| M4rtinK | no :) | 18:07 |
| jimbojambo | I misunderstood, well I'm looking for an editor from a couple of days and vim is the only tool lasting | 18:09 |
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| jimbojambo | nope, it don't works, though vim have +syntax, ":syntax on" tell me that this command isn't available for this versione :$ | 18:18 |
| jimbojambo | *e | 18:18 |
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| kimmoli | works here. sure you started vim, not vi | 18:20 |
| jimbojambo | whoooops vi is not vim, it's all right. thank you | 18:20 |
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| ttyp0 | blah, sometimes I hate being a good tester. I was supposed to perform basic penetration testing on a customer's site but, while doing it, I found a functional bug that broke the entire damn service so my penetration testing run was cut short. | 22:09 |
| ttyp0 | next chance: Monday night, earliest. | 22:09 |
| M4rtinK | oops :) | 22:12 |
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