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| daitheflu | Hello | 08:44 |
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| lbt | hmm wiki oom'ed - also you can usually pester me anytime about mer infra - it's just I was away from the internet all weekend :) | 09:10 |
| * lbt should upgrade wiki VM to latest systemd debian so it'd just have tried to restart the service ... | 09:12 | |
| * tortoisedoc shurgs | 09:17 | |
| tortoisedoc | systemd | 09:17 |
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| * lbt shurgs systemd too | 09:21 | |
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| locusf | err read that as latest symbian first | 11:03 |
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| urjaman | heh | 11:46 |
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| Deele | hello | 13:26 |
| Deele | where can I find more info about keyboard layouts and any plans about them? | 13:27 |
| Deele | I really need latvian keyboard for my Jolla | 13:28 |
| Guest29474 | https://together.jolla.com/question/21510/howto-adapt-sailfish-virtual-keyboard-vkb-layout/ | 13:28 |
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| Deele | thank you fledermaus | 13:29 |
| Deele | is there a way to submit new layout to Sailfish release? | 13:33 |
| leszek | Deele: not that I know of. But maybe in together.jolla.com you can make a request or ask them on the mailinglist to include your layout | 13:34 |
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| Deele | ok, if that is possible, I am sure there are some guidelines that should be followed | 13:35 |
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| leszek | Deele: I never submitted a patch to them. So I am not sure. Better ask in the mailinglist itself perhaps. Or just commit the patch and see if someone answers | 13:37 |
| leszek | maybe you get suggestions what to make better | 13:37 |
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| Deele | leszek, where is their repo? | 13:38 |
| djselbeck | Isn't the keyboard a proprietary component? | 13:39 |
| coderus | openrepos is the only your hope | 13:42 |
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| Deele | http://releases.sailfishos.org/ is 403 forbidden :( | 13:46 |
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| Zombywuf | When sailfish is updating, what exactly is the filesystem optimising step doing? | 13:47 |
| TemeV | Zombywuf: btrfs balance | 13:48 |
| Zombywuf | I love how btrfs has taken us backwards in time | 13:48 |
| Tegu | :) | 13:49 |
| Zombywuf | Maybe this time I will actually get 1.1.7 to install | 13:49 |
| Tegu | and they didn't bother with that anymore in table and switched to ext4 | 13:49 |
| Tegu | tablet* | 13:49 |
| TemeV | Yeah, btrfs sure wasn't one of the best design choises on Jolla | 13:50 |
| Tofe | Well, 1GB chunk is to be blamed, mostly | 13:51 |
| lbt | IMHO it was a fantastic design choice - the implementation just wasn't quite ready | 13:51 |
| TemeV | I don't know if the person(s) doing that decision were aware that they would be stuck witn ancient kernel | 13:52 |
| TemeV | But if they were, IMHO it was horrible choise | 13:52 |
| TemeV | If they didn't I can cut the some slack | 13:52 |
| coderus | Deele: what do you want to see here? | 13:53 |
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| Zombywuf | So it seemed to complete optimisation and now I'm downloading the update again | 13:58 |
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| Deele | coderus, here? you mean - channel? | 14:01 |
| coderus | Deele: i mean in releases.sailfishos.org | 14:03 |
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| louisdk | Any ETA on updated alien dalvik version for the Jolla phone? | 14:41 |
| tortoisedoc | louisdk : is there a never version out? | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | louisdk: not yet, well, updated 4.1.2, or updated to 4.4.4? | 14:50 |
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| louisdk | tortoisedoc, Stskeeps: Since the tablet seems to run 4.4.4 I assume I also might be possible for the phone at some point. | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | nod, not unreasonable | 15:11 |
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| Deele | coderus, I was asking about releases.sailfishos.org because it is mentioned in https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/ in bottom "Open source code" | 18:35 |
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| tbr | Deele: that server is just publishing packages and their legally required GPL sources | 18:40 |
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| tbr | Deele: AFAIU the keyboard layouts are jolla proprietary, and there is no known contribution process for that | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: they're actually BSD licensed but there's no known contribution process | 18:46 |
| Deele | that is quite sad. it would mean that Joola wont get Latvian localization support for N years | 18:46 |
| M4rtinK | well, we are still waiting even for the long promised community translation server | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | M4rtinK: i participate in meetings weekly about that.. | 18:47 |
| M4rtinK | and that's really an area where people are basically screaming "LET ME CONTRIBUTE" | 18:47 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: nice! good to hear something is happening with this :) | 18:48 |
| Deele | :thumbsup" | 18:48 |
| M4rtinK | so I guess we should "stay tuned" ;-) | 18:50 |
| tbr | speaking of delays and broken promises… It's early November, time for a blog post that explains another round of delays. | 18:51 |
| Deele | haha | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: i hear slush is coming up.. | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | and it's november? O_o | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:51 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: public announcement of further tablet delays on slush stage. now that's ballsy, not sure if it's going to work | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: now announcing jolla tablet 2! | 18:52 |
| * Stskeeps runs | 18:52 | |
| M4rtinK | + the thing I have been referencing (Stskeeps telling us to "stay tuned" on a TMO thread a month or two ago ;-) ) | 18:52 |
| M4rtinK | actually I would't not mind a Jolla Tablet 2 | 18:52 |
| Deele | I'm waiting for my tablet many months already... | 18:52 |
| M4rtinK | if it had a Wacom or Wacom like active pen screen | 18:53 |
| M4rtinK | I tired out the Cacom companion tablet/tablet-pc | 18:53 |
| M4rtinK | *tried | 18:53 |
| M4rtinK | this weekend | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | i need to get out of my habit of drawing on actual paper | 18:53 |
| djselbeck | Deele: at least you'll get it when the performance is better than at the moment ;) | 18:53 |
| M4rtinK | and it was really nice - well, other than the price :P | 18:54 |
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| Deele | djkinetic, are there issues already? | 18:54 |
| * tbr has a boogieboard for doodling | 18:54 | |
| Stskeeps | tbr: arr.. i keep on wanting to buy that | 18:54 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: well, paper is still much more mobile than normal graphics workstation | 18:54 |
| djselbeck | Deele: it is just not as smooth as the jolla phone is. Especially if I scroll in the gridviews of my application with lots of images | 18:54 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: it's neat, speaks bt-obex-ftp, so easy to sync with | 18:54 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: but the active pen tablets are indeed getting closer | 18:54 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: to replace it in some cases | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: yeah i know | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: i just keep on forgetting to buy it | 18:55 |
| tbr | there's :-þ | 18:55 |
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| M4rtinK | hmm, boogieboard indeed looks interesting :) | 18:56 |
| M4rtinK | I wonder how useful would it be for general drawing | 18:56 |
| tbr | M4rtinK: it's pretty nice. I use it for note taking and doodles | 18:57 |
| tbr | it generates pdfs on the fly | 18:57 |
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| M4rtinK | nice :) | 18:58 |
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| M4rtinK | hmm, it's pretty cheap | 19:01 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmhm | 19:01 |
| tortoisedoc_ | what is chear M4rtinK? | 19:01 |
| tortoisedoc_ | *cheap as well :P | 19:01 |
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| M4rtinK | those boogie board pads | 19:02 |
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| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps: what is wrong with paper? | 19:32 |
| attah | r0kk3rz: "you can't grep a dead tree" | 19:34 |
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| Stskeeps | what attah said | 19:35 |
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| r0kk3rz | its also hard to grep images | 19:42 |
| r0kk3rz | unless they have particularly descriptive file names, which they often dont | 19:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | grep a dead tree? | 19:42 |
| locusf | tbr: I'd like something like boogieboard but can copy/paste to note from desktop | 19:42 |
| r0kk3rz | but i understand the storage and recall problem of dead tree based media | 19:43 |
| attah | so far nothing is good enough across the board imho.. | 19:44 |
| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps: surely you've got a jollatab somewhere looking for a purpose | 19:45 |
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| Stskeeps | r0kk3rz: sure, but each thing for it's purpose.. | 19:47 |
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| r0kk3rz | boogieboard is likely better suited, but you can trial the workflow using whatever you have available for free | 19:48 |
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