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| tortoisedoc | w00p w00p | 07:31 |
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| tortoisedoc | so jolla sold 40k jphones eh | 07:31 |
| Nicd- | around, yeah | 07:31 |
| tortoisedoc | well thats not bad | 07:31 |
| tortoisedoc | for a beta os :P | 07:31 |
| tortoisedoc | exciting to hear there might be a new sfos phone coming | 07:33 |
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| Tofe | tortoisedoc: oh, how do we know that? | 07:45 |
| Tofe | (the ~40k number) | 07:45 |
| TemeV | Estimated from Jollas revenue I guess | 07:47 |
| tortoisedoc | see reviewjolla blog | 07:47 |
| tortoisedoc | its mentioned in the post | 07:48 |
| Tofe | ok, will do, thx | 07:48 |
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| TemeV | 'the information about the manufacturer is published "shorty"' | 07:49 |
| TemeV | is "shortly" better than "soon"? :) | 07:50 |
| Tofe | I'm betting shortly = 0.2*soon | 07:53 |
| tortoisedoc | id guess its a matter of d4yz | 07:54 |
| Tegu | DayZ | 07:54 |
| tortoisedoc | D.A.Y.Z. | 07:58 |
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| Juuba | hmmh | 08:35 |
| Juuba | seems like my Jolla broke another uSD card :/ | 08:36 |
| Juuba | or i donno what/how it broke, but I cannot retrieve "ls" from my card :/ | 08:36 |
| Juuba | at /media/sdcard/a0d0.... | 08:36 |
| Juuba | i can play music just fine :D | 08:37 |
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| Juuba | but I cannot access the card in other way | 08:37 |
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| tathhu | https://together.jolla.com/question/51886/sailfishos-sdk-installation-fails/?answer=62235#post-id-62235 ffs | 08:41 |
| tathhu | * https://together.jolla.com/question/51886/sailfishos-sdk-installation-fails/?answer=76272#post-id-76272 | 08:43 |
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| Pete8 | Any idea how to route audio of application in Jolla ?? | 08:48 |
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| coderus | Pete8: with pactl | 08:56 |
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| Pete8 | coderus: Yes, just found it also. Interesting. | 09:01 |
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| mgrover | there seems to be two ways to making c++ available to qml, the setContextProperty, and the qmlRegisterType, which is better to use, or is there no real difference either way? | 15:01 |
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| daitheflu | mgrover: for what I understand (I might be very wrong), setContextProperty exposes an instance of a C++ object (already instantiated). qmlRegisterType exposes an object that you'll be able to instanciate in QML (multiple times if needed) | 15:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | mgrover: use qmlregistertype | 15:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | setContextProperty exposes global objects. and globals are usually bad usage | 15:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | well, usually bad (showing that a design is wrong) | 15:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | what daitheflu said | 15:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and you can use qmlRegisterSingletonType in Qt 5 | 15:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | for singletons | 15:07 |
| mgrover | also, I assume if I want to reuse a database connection, I better make it static/ | 15:08 |
| mgrover | ? | 15:08 |
| daitheflu | I should probably take care of that in the next update of my app | 15:08 |
| mgrover | i probably should as well before publish | 15:10 |
| mgrover | thanks for the advice :) | 15:10 |
| daitheflu | mgrover: it sounds weird to me to expose a database connection in QML, is that what you meant ? | 15:12 |
| mgrover | no, no, seperate query, i have two models both connecting to the same db, the second model shows no data because the connection is already in use | 15:13 |
| daitheflu | mgrover: hah okay :) That's an issue I'm also having. Sadly I didn't have the time to dive into it for now, sorry | 15:17 |
| mgrover | daitheflu: ah its no problem :)_ill post however i solve it here anyway | 15:19 |
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| daitheflu | mgrover: thanks :) | 15:19 |
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| mgrover | if instantiate my c++ in the qml now how would I connect signals though? | 15:25 |
| daitheflu | mgrover: with "on..." for example, if your object has a property called "firstname", you should be able to use "onFirstnameChanged: {}" | 15:27 |
| daitheflu | if you have defined some others signals in your C++, you should also be able to use them directly | 15:27 |
| mgrover | I have a onDataProcessed but that signal takes an argument, how would...wait actually | 15:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | mgrover: your signal is named dataProcessed(const QString &value), then you can onDataProcessed: { console.debug(value); } | 15:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | use the name of the property in signal | 15:30 |
| mgrover | so I simply tell it to populate | 15:31 |
| mgrover | basically this i hope | 15:31 |
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| mgrover | onDataProcessed:{ serviceModel.populateModel(networkrequest.) } | 15:31 |
| mgrover | well there should be a .getServiceList there lol | 15:32 |
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| mgrover | hmmm Error: Unknown method return type: QList<ServiceObject> | 15:36 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | mgrover: yes, q_DECLARE_METATYPE | 15:54 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | is ServiceObject a subclass of QObject | 15:54 |
| mgrover | nope, it can be though | 15:54 |
| SfietKonstantinW | QML only knows about subclasses of QObject, and QList of | 15:54 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and you need ot qmlRegisterUncreatableType it | 15:54 |
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| mgrover | this is a major question ive always had about QObjects, why does there need to be a constructor with a parent? what if there is no parent? | 15:55 |
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| Tofe | mgrover: then say goodbye to all inherited capabilities | 15:57 |
| mgrover | yeah but my ServiceObject, it has no real parent, it doesnt need a parent, but I'd still need the constructor? | 15:57 |
| SfietKonstantinW | mgrover: then the parent is null | 15:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yes, you need it | 15:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | mgrover: where are your serviceobject created ? | 15:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | actually, I wrap "C++ objects" around QObject to expose in QML | 15:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but if I have some logic objects, I code using standard C++ patterns | 15:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | no parent, just rule of 0 and unique_ptr / shared_ptr all around | 15:58 |
| mgrover | different class, its just an object to store data | 15:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | where is your signal emitted | 15:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | aren't these service object hold by the object emitting the signal ? | 15:59 |
| mgrover | i have a networkrequest class that makes a request, gets data back and places it in a ServiceObject list, then signal is emitted | 16:00 |
| mgrover | passing in that list | 16:00 |
| mgrover | theres a slot in the ServicesModel to take that list and populate the model | 16:00 |
| SfietKonstantinW | where is your networkrequest class handled | 16:01 |
| SfietKonstantinW | hum why don't you do the connection C++ side ? | 16:01 |
| SfietKonstantinW | is your networkrequest exposed in QML, as well as your model | 16:02 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if so do something like: a property in your model class | 16:02 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Q_PROPERTY(NetworkRequest * networkRequest READ ... WRITE ... NOTIFY) | 16:02 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and when your NetworkRequest is set in model, connect the signal with the model's slot | 16:02 |
| SfietKonstantinW | in qml you will do Model { networkRequest: myRequest } | 16:02 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and done :) | 16:03 |
| mgrover | well it was on the c++ side, but now since using qmlRegisterType, am not sure how change this: QObject::connect(&nr, SIGNAL(dataProcessed(QList<ServiceObject>)),&servicemodel, SLOT(populateModel(QList<ServiceObject>))); | 16:03 |
| SfietKonstantinW | mgrover: tell me more about the high level design of your app | 16:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | what is exposed in QML | 16:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | show some code | 16:04 |
| mgrover | do you wanna see the code? might be easier lol | 16:04 |
| mgrover | gimme a sec to push changes | 16:05 |
| mgrover | https://github.com/m4r0v3r/harbour-nationalrail/blob/master/src/harbour-nationalrail.cpp | 16:06 |
| mgrover | this is how it was before | 16:06 |
| mgrover | and am about to change it in a second or two to the qmlRegisterType | 16:07 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | mgrover: do what I said | 16:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and create the NetworkRequest as a QML component (in QML code) + use the model as a QML component | 16:08 |
| mgrover | i am currently, or trying to | 16:08 |
| SfietKonstantinW | what I do (property) means: you use this source to load data to your model | 16:08 |
| mgrover | i am here https://github.com/m4r0v3r/harbour-nationalrail/blob/master/qml/pages/SearchResults.qml | 16:09 |
| mgrover | i assumed I would be able to call the onDataProcessed signal like I do, and just pass it in what it needs | 16:10 |
| SfietKonstantinW | well, I'm not a fan of passing the data via the QML stack if they can be passed easily via the C++ stack | 16:10 |
| mgrover | I assume the c++ stack is faster | 16:11 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yep | 16:11 |
| SfietKonstantinW | plus, this is hidden | 16:11 |
| SfietKonstantinW | don't forget, QML is for the gui | 16:11 |
| SfietKonstantinW | of course, it usually have some sources | 16:11 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (sensor, some data source etc) | 16:11 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but it should not know the internals | 16:11 |
| SfietKonstantinW | passing these data is internal | 16:12 |
| SfietKonstantinW | that's why I want you to export your NetworkRequest as a source | 16:12 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (create one in the main.qml file) | 16:12 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and then attach as many sinks as you want | 16:12 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (models) | 16:12 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I would like to show you what I did in microf, but it pushes the source + sink stuff too far away :( | 16:13 |
| mgrover | I assume Q_PROPERTY(NetworkRequest * networkRequest READ ... WRITE ... NOTIFY) would do inside the NetworkRequest? | 16:13 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so it became unclear who is the consumer | 16:13 |
| SfietKonstantinW | mgrover: no, do this in your model | 16:13 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and replace ... with names :) | 16:13 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you can let QtCreator autocomplete make it for you | 16:13 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Q_PROPERTY<ctrl + space> | 16:13 |
| SfietKonstantinW | type your NetworkRequest *networkRequest | 16:13 |
| SfietKonstantinW | <alt + enter>: geneerate property members | 16:14 |
| SfietKonstantinW | done :P | 16:14 |
| mgrover | so would READ, WRITE and NOTIFY, connect to reading a serviceobject, writing a serviceobject and notiftying the change? | 16:14 |
| SfietKonstantinW | not exactly | 16:15 |
| SfietKonstantinW | read write notify to expose your "networkRequest" property to qml | 16:15 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | when the WRITE method is called (someone is changing your networkRequest attribute, connect between the model and the new NetworkRequest) | 16:16 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | (don't forget to disconnect the old one) | 16:16 |
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| mgrover | i wont lie am kinda lost :P | 16:17 |
| mgrover | my first Qt app | 16:17 |
| SfietKonstantinW | mgrover: don't worry | 16:17 |
| SfietKonstantinW | do you want me to explain again ? | 16:17 |
| mgrover | let me reread it and see what i can hook up | 16:18 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I have done this too: the global source object in C++ code | 16:18 |
| SfietKonstantinW | the idea is this: you will declare a "source object" in your QML code | 16:18 |
| daitheflu | mgrover: I released mine a few weeks ago and I still feel lost :) | 16:18 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and everything around (models and friends) will be consumers of the data this source object gives | 16:18 |
| mgrover | source of data? | 16:18 |
| SfietKonstantinW | what this object gives is not visible from QML side | 16:18 |
| SfietKonstantinW | the source here, is your NetworkRequest | 16:19 |
| SfietKonstantinW | it is used to retrieve data isn't it ? | 16:19 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so it is the source: you ask for a request, it gives you the result :) | 16:19 |
| SfietKonstantinW | are you ok with this ? | 16:19 |
| mgrover | yes, it has a method called sendXYZRequest | 16:19 |
| mgrover | yes am okay with that | 16:19 |
| SfietKonstantinW | right | 16:20 |
| SfietKonstantinW | first of all, let's make a source object available in QML | 16:20 |
| SfietKonstantinW | that one is really easy | 16:20 |
| SfietKonstantinW | your source object should derive from QObject | 16:20 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (don't forget the macro Q_OBJECT !) | 16:20 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and then you should qmlRegisterType it | 16:20 |
| mgrover | it does derive from it | 16:20 |
| mgrover | tthats done | 16:21 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if you did this, you can put in your main qml file | 16:21 |
| mgrover | although the constructor takes nothing, so maybe its not | 16:21 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (something like main.qml, or <appname>.qml) | 16:21 |
| mgrover | I understand that much | 16:21 |
| SfietKonstantinW | put it in the ApplicationWindow, you can put your source NetworkRequest { id: source } | 16:21 |
| SfietKonstantinW | give it a nice id, you should never use this id elsewhere | 16:21 |
| mgrover | what I don't understand is, if I've already done that, why do I need a Q_PROPERTY | 16:22 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so that when you are using <id> it means: this object | 16:22 |
| SfietKonstantinW | about that q_property | 16:22 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you need to link your model with the NetworkRequest | 16:22 |
| SfietKonstantinW | right | 16:22 |
| mgrover | ive done it here | 16:22 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ATM, you did a connection in C++ code | 16:22 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | in main | 16:22 |
| SfietKonstantinW | however, in QML, you have no control of where the objects are | 16:22 |
| mgrover | yep | 16:22 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | so you have to tell your model: use this NetworkRequest as a source | 16:23 |
| SfietKonstantinW | connect to <source> | 16:23 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so you can retrieve data | 16:23 |
| SfietKonstantinW | is this ok ? | 16:23 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you need to tell your model which source to use | 16:23 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so you need a property | 16:23 |
| SfietKonstantinW | a property is basically a C++ attribute, but visible from QML | 16:23 |
| mgrover | okay | 16:23 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ok | 16:24 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so you declare an attribute | 16:24 |
| SfietKonstantinW | eh | 16:24 |
| SfietKonstantinW | a property | 16:24 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I would prefer you call it source | 16:24 |
| mgrover | ? | 16:24 |
| mgrover | oh no autoscroll :P | 16:24 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you can call it networkRequest if you want | 16:25 |
| SfietKonstantinW | to declare this, you need the q_property macro | 16:25 |
| mgrover | Q_PROPERTY(NetworkRequest *networkRequest) like so? | 16:25 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Q_PROPERTY(<type> <name> READ <getter> WRITE <setter> NOTIFY <signal>) | 16:25 |
| SfietKonstantinW | that's the pattern | 16:25 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Q_PROPERTY(NetworkRequest *networkRequest READ networkRequest WRITE setNetworkRequest NOTIFY networkRequestChanged) | 16:25 |
| SfietKonstantinW | would be enough | 16:25 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but this alone is not enough, you have to implement getter and setter | 16:26 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so getter | 16:26 |
| mgrover | okay | 16:26 |
| SfietKonstantinW | NetworkRequest *networkRequest () const { return m_networkRequest; } | 16:26 |
| SfietKonstantinW | this is enough (don't forget to add the NetworkRequest *m_networkRequest; attribute + initialize it to 0 in the constructor | 16:26 |
| SfietKonstantinW | for the setter, it is slightly more complicated | 16:26 |
| SfietKonstantinW | the usual template is | 16:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | void setNetworkRequest(NetworkRequest *networkRequest) | 16:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | { | 16:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if (m_networkRequest != networkRequest) { | 16:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | m_networkRequest = networkRequest; | 16:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | emit networkRequestChanged(); | 16:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | } | 16:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | } | 16:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | sorry for spamming :( | 16:27 |
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| mgrover | i dont mind, not sure about other people :P | 16:28 |
| mgrover | but why would the networkrequest ever need to change | 16:28 |
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| daitheflu | I'm actually captivated, such explanations should go somewhere | 16:29 |
| SfietKonstantinW | mgrover: well, you need this sadly, even if you want it to be set one time | 16:29 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | because it is how QML works | 16:29 |
| mgrover | okay | 16:29 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if you want to set something (in a standard way), you need properties | 16:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | even for one time | 16:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | the pattern I said is not enough | 16:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you need to connect | 16:30 |
| mgrover | the part I don't understand is the don't forget to add the NetworkRequest *m_networkRequest; attribute + initialize it to 0 in the constructor | 16:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and safety | 16:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | mgrover: you need something like | 16:30 |
| mgrover | by that do you mean ServiceModel::ServiceModel(NetworkRequest *request = 0) : QAbstractListModel() | 16:30 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | MyModel::MyModel(QObject *parent) : QAbstractListModel(parent), m_networkRequest(0) {} | 16:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (constructor) | 16:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and in your header | 16:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | private: | 16:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | NetworkRequest *m_networkRequest; | 16:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | an attribute | 16:31 |
| mgrover | oh i see | 16:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | in your slot you need to first disconnect the old source (if there is one) | 16:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so, after "if (m_networkRequest != networkRequest) { " and before "m_networkRequest = networkRequest; " | 16:31 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | do somethig like: if (m_networkRequest) { disconnect(m_networkRequest, <signal>, this, <slot>); } | 16:32 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and, as you guessed it, after m_networkRequest = networkRequest | 16:32 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if (m_networkRequest) { connect(m_networkRequest, <signal>, this, <slot>); } | 16:32 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :) | 16:32 |
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| mgrover | i see, and thats where the signal gets set | 16:32 |
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| daitheflu | this is purely enlightening | 16:33 |
| SfietKonstantinW | in QML, you can simply do something very nice: | 16:34 |
| SfietKonstantinW | MyModel { networkRequest: source } | 16:34 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (declare your model via qmlRegisterType etc.) | 16:34 |
| mgrover | ahhh | 16:34 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and then: no more stuff in C++ | 16:34 |
| SfietKonstantinW | except the main, a bunch of qmlRegisterType, and some implementations | 16:34 |
| SfietKonstantinW | daitheflu: thanks if you learned something too | 16:35 |
| mgrover | okay, you've been great, and am sure ill annoy you with more :P ill try and implment that | 16:36 |
| daitheflu | SfietKonstantinW: correct me if I'm wrong... with this pattern, the every model share the same "source", so a model that, let's say, wants to be refreshed by getting the data through source might "shortcut" another one that would still be running ? | 16:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | what would still be running ? | 16:37 |
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| daitheflu | I learned **a lot** here | 16:38 |
| SfietKonstantinW | mgrover: ping me if needed | 16:38 |
| daitheflu | SfietKonstantinW: the request | 16:38 |
| SfietKonstantinW | or SfietKonstantin, Sfiet_Konstantin if i do not respond | 16:38 |
| SfietKonstantinW | W = work :) | 16:38 |
| SfietKonstantinW | daitheflu: which request | 16:38 |
| mgrover | i will do thank you :) | 16:38 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you can create several sources :) | 16:38 |
| SfietKonstantinW | one per model :) | 16:38 |
| SfietKonstantinW | this allows flexibility | 16:38 |
| daitheflu | model A gets data by using "source", it takes a long time... so the request is pending. Then, another model, B, wants some data and asks it through "source", what happens with model A ? | 16:39 |
| daitheflu | ah yes, obviously | 16:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | daitheflu: several solutions: if B want a different type of data, you can implement source so that you have different signals | 16:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | like fastRefreshed() and slowRefreshed() | 16:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and model B connect to the interesting signal | 16:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | or you use different sources | 16:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I have actually 3 layers in Friends for example | 16:41 |
| SfietKonstantinW | SocialNetwork: it creates a network request, but do not handle the result | 16:41 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Builder: take the data from a specific result it created thanks to SocialNetwork | 16:41 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Model: use the builder's data to populate | 16:41 |
| SfietKonstantinW | SocialNetwork is then a global source | 16:42 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but builders are different for need | 16:42 |
| SfietKonstantinW | s | 16:42 |
| SfietKonstantinW | well, actually I have a Request that tell which requet to create, and Builder that process the result of the request | 16:43 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so it is 4 level :P | 16:43 |
| daitheflu | I have something kinda similar with my app, but exposed to QML with setContextProperty, I'll need to change that in the next release. | 16:44 |
| daitheflu | thank you very much :D | 16:44 |
| daitheflu | gotta go, thanks again, bye ! | 16:45 |
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| Nokius | thp: ah the issue is know sorry for the ping here | 17:28 |
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| Nokius | thp: looks like u also know about the icon scaling issue (mostly the download icon) show it on the find5 port | 17:30 |
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| mgrover | if I had two labels, anchored on the top and verticle centre, how would one go about adding some padding? | 21:08 |
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| coderus | mgrover: what? | 21:14 |
| coderus | maybe you need column? | 21:14 |
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| mgrover | I have a row, with 2 pieces of text in it | 21:15 |
| mgrover | this basically, http://imgur.com/pmFbJal | 21:16 |
| mgrover | i want to move the AmendedTime, slightly lower | 21:16 |
| mgrover | its inside a BackgroundItem | 21:17 |
| M4rtinK | Column with spacing ? | 21:21 |
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| coderus | yes, make ROw { Column {} Column {} } | 21:22 |
| mgrover | ah okay, ill try that | 21:27 |
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