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amccarthycoderus: together is powered by askbot, http://askbot.org/doc/api.html01:27
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Dante_JGreetings all02:48
Dante_JI have a bit of a conundrum and am interested to hear your opinions.02:54
Dante_JI'd like to get a phone running SailfishOS. I live in Au.02:55
Dante_JI've considered getting a Jolla phone, but they're not available here. Certainly not supported here if I get one imported somehow.02:55
Dante_JA Nexus 5 running SailfishOS for hammerhead is the other option. At lease Nexus 5's are more available.02:56
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Dante_JDo people here have experience either way? What do you recommend as a better phone?02:57
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andyr0ck_Well, I have it running on an N4 but the N5 seems to have overtaken it, development-wise. All depends whether you neeeed the Android VM, I suppose...04:06
andyr0ck_That said, it is a delight to use on the N4, even though there's a few bits lacking at present.04:07
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Dante_Jthanks andyr0ck_04:17
Dante_Jwhich are the things you miss most on the N4, and do you find yourself booting Android instead for those things?04:17
andyr0ck_well, i don't use it as an android phone. i have an Oppo Find 7a and work gave me a Samsung S6. :-D04:24
andyr0ck_bought specifically to use for Sailfish04:24
andyr0ck_but back then, teh N4 port was way ahead of the N5.04:24
andyr0ck_the real killers, except for a few things not being right, was those 'can't live without' apps04:25
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andyr0ck_currently, it appears (according to the libhybris status page) that the N5 only has GPS not working.04:26
andyr0ck_think you can pick teh N5 up quite cheap these days04:27
andyr0ck_and the battery life on the N4 isn't the best04:28
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Pete8Good Morning! QFeedback from button press? I've been looking information for this, no luck so far...05:58
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Dante_Jthanks again andyr0ck_06:15
andyr0ck_no worries06:21
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kimmoliPete8: SailfishOS/examples/componentgallery/qml/pages/HapticPage.qml06:28
Pete8kimmoli: Thanks, I also found this. I am able to do it now from QML directly. This is awesome!06:31
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coderusamccarthy: okay, and what about login and posting questions?07:17
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amccarthycoderus: No idea, but the Jolla Together application in the store can login. No posting as far as I can tell.07:23
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coderusamccarthy: okay i see. many features are not implemented in askbot api. so bad choice of platform :)07:46
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zGrrmoin :)08:31
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kimmolihöh. mervncserver gets just disconnected12:28
urjamanhöh12:31
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coderuskimmoli: yes it closing sometimes :D12:49
kimmolilog says connected and then immediately client left12:51
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NokiusDante_J: I will not promes any thing but may you can run SFOS soon on find7 (atm I work on an find5 port next is find7 [no ETA] )13:07
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Nicd-hm, Pitot worked completely fine for me15:18
Nicd-dunno why Jolla QA didn't get a fix15:18
coderusNicd-: you can insert message for QA to ask them to be sure GPS is working on test phone before trying your application.15:22
coderusNicd-: or gps is turned off in setings and your application not checking it?15:22
Nicd-well it'll just stay spinning until you turn on GPS because the API doesn't give out the errors it's supposed to15:23
Nicd-but in their comment they specifically said that it won't get location "even though GPS is set"15:23
coderusNicd-: just try again15:24
Nicd-I sent them an email about it to check if there's anything specific I should try. maybe they've found some circumstance of it not working15:24
StskeepsNicd-: we keep them in the deep deep basement15:26
Stskeeps;)15:27
Nicd-:D15:27
Nicd-well, they did find that other bug so it was not a useless rejection :)15:27
kimmolii was just wondering does QA of gps app require a field trip?15:33
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Nicd-I would guess they have some sort of GPS simulator15:39
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coderusattaching phone to drone you men? :D15:44
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kimmoliNicd-: there is atleast one SailTime leftover in the code...15:49
Nicd-kimmoli: what?15:50
kimmoliin storage.js15:50
Nicd-hahah :D15:51
Nicd-whooops15:51
Nicd-thanks for noticing15:52
Nicd-fixed :)15:52
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carepack_giucam: ping18:21
giucamcarepack_: pong18:22
carepack_hi18:22
carepack_at the moment I try to get sfos running on mako / nexus 4 on cm11.18:23
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carepack_and I got some problems there. app starting produces different types of errors and crashing. The badest is that lipstick is completely crashing: http://pastebin.com/3iSS75US18:24
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carepack_but it behaves different. one time whole lipstick is crashing. other time the app is only disappearing but lipstick is running further18:25
qt_junkieajalkane: good evening!18:26
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giucamcarepack_: uhm.. that backtrace is quite weird... i wouldn't know what the problem is18:27
giucami smell memory corruption18:27
giucamvalgrind would be useful here18:27
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carepack_it feels like a memory related problem becaus of it's randomness. definetly during app start but differet crash types18:30
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carepack_in which channel valgrin got his home :-) ? or only not beeing online?18:33
carepack_valgrind18:33
Nicd-carepack_: http://valgrind.org/support/mailing_lists.html18:35
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carepack_ah. ok. thx Nicd & giucam18:36
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carepack_starting lipstick with valgrind I need an suid wrapper?18:48
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carepack_giucam: could you help using valgrind to get the relevant informations?18:55
carepack_me18:55
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giucamcarepack_: you need to run 'chmod g-s /usr/bin/lipstick'19:11
giucamas root19:11
giucamthen when you're done don't forget to do chmod g+s19:12
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Mystery47Hi!19:42
Mystery47coderus: Hi!19:44
coderusMystery47: hello?19:44
Mystery47I have one question. Can SailfishOS apps made with only Jolla phone?19:45
coderuswhy not19:46
Mystery47coderus: That question was made for you19:46
coderusbut you should REALLY want to do this19:46
Mystery47What you mean about that?19:46
coderususing pc is 100x easier19:47
Mystery47coderus: OK.19:47
coderusbtw, if you don't want to waste your phone processor time for compiling you can use build.merproject.org19:48
Mystery47coderus: My computer suck and i find easy to use phone. Do this phone need what kind of packages to work in coding?19:48
coderusor don't do any compiling and write silly apps with only pyotherside and qml19:48
Mystery47coderus:  ok.19:48
coderusMystery47: there is was article somewhere to setup sdk chroot on device19:48
coderusi have no bookmark19:48
Mystery47I just have this some old interest of coding, and i want to do something about it. Im in school now learning to be caretaker. But i want to learn to do apps to help job...19:51
Mystery47coderus: I just hate this IRC app in sailfishOS. If i talk people in here i want to talk private, but i allways forget to choose user to speak.19:52
coderusi have no links for youj.. try to search it yourself or wait for other answers19:53
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Mystery47coderus: Thank for helping. I'll check these things. You are good coder. Followed your works long...19:57
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coderusthere are many good coders20:05
Mystery47coderus: Yes. There are. I have many idols. But you make changes so quick.(updates) These are things what Jolla community waits.20:06
r0kk3rzcoding on device sounds painful20:17
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kimmolii think i did install everything on device to use qmake,20:19
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kimmoliworked for cli/daemons, something was missing for gui apps20:20
kimmolidid not chroot though20:20
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r0kk3rzmaybe some devel libraries that exist on the build-vm20:21
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* nib some time ago used to write code on n90020:25
Mystery47I thought this is unix phone. Thats why im asking making apps fully on only phone.20:25
r0kk3rzim sure its possible20:26
Mystery47Terminal works nice. More OpenSuse background..20:28
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kimmolipkcon install gcc gcc-c++ and various qt packages20:30
Mystery47Thanks...20:31
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Mystery47Thanks  kimmoli and crew making good TOHs20:34
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