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| olpe | Well I'm trying to export as csv because so many people asked about it. I'm going to make another export that exports the whole db and then importing from that db file, not from csv. coderus | 07:06 |
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| kimmoli | olpe: ? what i problem with csv export? | 07:13 |
| olpe | see some of the previous messages ^^ But i have no problem with it (yet). kimmoli | 07:15 |
| kimmoli | ah ok. separator sucks, i solved it by assuming your phone locale is same as your pc locale | 07:16 |
| kimmoli | QChar separator = (loc.decimalPoint() == '.') ? ',' : ';'; | 07:16 |
| kimmoli | where loc = QLocale::system() | 07:18 |
| olpe | hmm.. so on some phones floats will be with commas? kimmoli | 07:19 |
| kimmoli | yes... | 07:19 |
| olpe | :( | 07:19 |
| kimmoli | that will also break text entry possible. | 07:19 |
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| kimmoli | but js _should_ follow locale too | 07:19 |
| olpe | ok. what do you guys think about exporting as .xsl then? Easier? | 07:20 |
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| olpe | oh its probably not supported by sqlite.. | 07:41 |
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| coderus | if you like new swipe animation in u13 please comment here and tell peoples how awesome is it: https://together.jolla.com/question/90122/aijas-new-swipe-indication | 09:50 |
| Nicd- | I actually think the old one was better | 09:53 |
| Nicd- | I swiped to look at the clock very often, now I have to swipe further | 09:53 |
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| r0kk3rz | i always found you needed to swipe to the middle of the screen anyway | 09:56 |
| r0kk3rz | although now the fade animation is on a timer rather than directly proportional to how far you peek | 09:57 |
| r0kk3rz | if you swipe fast vs slow you can tell | 09:57 |
| coderus | 1/3 makes it fully opaque, at 1/4 it semi-opaque and you can already see time and indicators. | 09:57 |
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| coderus | i don't understand peoples, swipe animation should be swipe, not just fade as before. | 09:59 |
| chem|st | r0kk3rz: sounds like subjective impression, guess fast is just not triggering one state and jumps to the next | 09:59 |
| coderus | chem|st: well, animation have duration, and if you swipe fast transition changes faster because for the same time | 10:00 |
| r0kk3rz | i think theres a min duration on it though | 10:01 |
| coderus | because if you swipe slow it should change opacity from 1.0 to 0.6 (hust for example) but if you swipe fast and more it should change opacity from 1.0 to 0.2 (for example) for the same duration | 10:01 |
| coderus | s/hust/just :D | 10:01 |
| r0kk3rz | because i can get to the other side of the screen before it completely fades out | 10:01 |
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| coderus | r0kk3rz: because transition have duration | 10:02 |
| coderus | and if you swipe slowly it actually run multiple transitions one-by-one | 10:02 |
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| coderus | and if you swipe fast and far it one transition for fixed duration time | 10:02 |
| r0kk3rz | either way, i dont see jolla changing it back no matter how many people complain about it | 10:03 |
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| r0kk3rz | its pretty standard really, you change something and there's always a subset of people who dont like it | 10:05 |
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| chem|st | coderus: but it seems to start transitions by position and override previous, so fast swipe does not mean fast timers | 10:11 |
| chem|st | sry did not read the whole log | 10:11 |
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| chem|st | r0kk3rz: I did not like it at first too, it was irritating | 10:12 |
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| coderus | chem|st: no no, timer is same, just transition final state changing | 10:27 |
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| chem|st | our eyes too slow then | 10:56 |
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| coderus | chem|st: well, no, just after 1/3 of width it's fully opaque, and you thinking it just changing state without transition, try to swipe it fast to 1/4 of width and see :) | 11:02 |
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| * coderus hacking silica components again to get cool ui for mitakuuluu again... | 12:44 | |
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| coderus | it's so sad every sailfish update changing many things in silica | 12:51 |
| coderus | hope sailfish 2.0 will be more solid | 12:52 |
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| coderus | how to get container for page? this and other many cool questions are not answered and should be hacked by developers | 12:54 |
| coderus | and things will change in hext sailfish update, app will be looking weird, and everything should be done again | 12:55 |
| * coderus sigh | 12:55 | |
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| coderus | a property inside page to know it pagestack x offset would be nice. but who cares, right? | 13:09 |
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| coderus | for example look at my hacked Wallpaper component to automatically calculate horizontal offset when page is swiping. absurd complexity, but i didn't found any other proper way to do it. | 13:50 |
| coderus | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10844579 | 13:50 |
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| olpe | what is the best way of showing a notification to the user inside app? Is it possible to use those system notifications that appear on the top? | 14:11 |
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| kimmoli | i have my own qml, messagebox | 14:17 |
| kimmoli | if it is wnough to show it when app is on top | 14:17 |
| olpe | yeah i'm just showing error messages or success. or stuff like that | 14:18 |
| olpe | found an example here http://sailfishdev.tumblr.com/ | 14:19 |
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| olpe | nice. It actually worked | 14:23 |
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| mtfk | hi, I am looking from som hints about how to use gnupg on sailfishOS, I would like to develop application which will manage the gpg keys to re use it later on for communication | 14:57 |
| mtfk | anyone could point me to some documentation about that how to compile gnupg for sailfish? | 14:57 |
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| krobelus | mtfk: https://build.merproject.org/ | 15:01 |
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| krobelus | you just need the specfile and the source tarball | 15:05 |
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| mtfk | so this will allow me to build gnupg pacakge for sailfishOS? | 15:07 |
| krobelus | yes | 15:07 |
| kimmoli | isn't there some gnupg package installed already? | 15:09 |
| kimmoli | on the phone i mean? pkcon search name gnu | 15:10 |
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| kimmoli | (check because i might have installed all kind of stuff to my phone) | 15:10 |
| krobelus | yes it is | 15:10 |
| mtfk | I am calling > pkcon search gnu but there is error something like: Invalid search type | 15:13 |
| Yaniel | pkcon search name gnu | 15:13 |
| mtfk | right, thx | 15:13 |
| mtfk | so I can install it throug pkcon ? | 15:14 |
| mtfk | I mean the gnupg ? | 15:14 |
| mtfk | becaus is see that there is a package | 15:14 |
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| krobelus | sure | 15:16 |
| mtfk | there is a way to trigger that from the app it self? | 15:16 |
| mtfk | like I will create my application which will have gnupg as dependencies | 15:16 |
| krobelus | yes, the dependencies are listed in the specfile of your app | 15:17 |
| mtfk | great, this should do the job then. Thanks a lot for help | 15:18 |
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| Anonyneko | Hi, so I just started checking out Sailfish SDK and I've been wondering, how should I calculate device independent pixels? Screen.pixelDensity returns "3.9" on my oneplus one and the docs state it's pixels per milimeter... which doesn't make sense, it's five times too low | 16:13 |
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| coderus | Anonyneko: wait u13 port, afaik it have a lot of improvements on that side. | 16:32 |
| coderus | why the hell pulley nemuindicator have z: -2 ?!! | 16:41 |
| coderus | menuindicator* | 16:41 |
| Anonyneko | What's u13? Sorry, a bit on the newbish side here. | 16:44 |
| Anonyneko | Oh, it's the new version of Sailfish | 16:45 |
| Anonyneko | I hope they port it over to 1+1 as well | 16:45 |
| Acce | most certainly they will, but the ports are always a step behind | 16:46 |
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| coderus | Anonyneko: yes, it just yet not properly released update. | 17:00 |
| coderus | Anonyneko: not always, depends on porter developer free time. | 17:00 |
| coderus | Acce: ^ | 17:00 |
| Acce | well, okay, let's fix it to "quite likely" :) | 17:02 |
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| Spiffyman | Hello. I know sailfishOS runs on a Galaxy S3. But will it run on my Galaxy S3 Mini? | 17:19 |
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| coderus | sandsmark: sure, if you port it. go to #sailfishos-porters for details | 17:23 |
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| Anonyneko | Pfft, the browser just crashes every time when I try to go to jolla.com | 17:55 |
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| Anonyneko | Is there any way to make the WebView or SilicaWebView stretch to the size of the html content inside? So I could have it as just another widget in a column, no scrolling inside | 18:43 |
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| coderus | Anonyneko: tried enabled: false? | 18:45 |
| Anonyneko | That still won't stretch it and I'd like to grab navigation requests too (to send them to the actual browser) | 18:47 |
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| Anonyneko | Well I guess I'll give up for now, it might be possible if some C++ side widgets are available, but for that I'll need to read up on Qt and QML/C++ integration and that will take quite a while | 19:27 |
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| M4rtinK | Anonyneko: you can also use Python: http://pyotherside.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#cookbook :) | 19:31 |
| coderus | M4rtinK: python webview component? | 19:32 |
| Anonyneko | That won't really solve it since the components I want to try are defined in C++ | 19:32 |
| Anonyneko | Like, QGraphicsWebView, whatever that is, since unlike WebView from QtWebKit 3.0 (1.0 is not available for some reason lol) it can tell me the height of the contents | 19:33 |
| M4rtinK | Anonyneko: oh, right | 19:33 |
| M4rtinK | I meant that generally you have a choice to write your QML backend in either C++ or Python | 19:34 |
| M4rtinK | (or actually even both as nothing is preventing that) | 19:35 |
| Anonyneko | I'll try PyOtherSide at some point, definitely, and maybe Garnet too (mRuby), but for app logic things | 19:35 |
| Anonyneko | Yeah, that's quite convenient | 19:35 |
| M4rtinK | I'll just note it is already possible to submit PyOtherSide using apps to the Jolla store :) | 19:35 |
| Anonyneko | Yep, heard about it | 19:36 |
| Anonyneko | Despite only having flashed Sailfish two days ago I've been following it for quite a while out of pure curiosity | 19:36 |
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| M4rtinK | and how do you like it so far ? :) | 19:38 |
| Anonyneko | It's pretty cool and smooth but I definitely miss those android apps (no alien dalvik on non-Jolla devices and all that) | 19:42 |
| M4rtinK | I have it on my Jolla | 19:43 |
| M4rtinK | but I barely use it :) | 19:43 |
| Anonyneko | Also browser is a bit weird (it renders just like firefox should, but the UI is odd) and I can't get used to "back" and "home" hardware buttons not working | 19:44 |
| Anonyneko | But that's just because I'm used to Android, I suppose | 19:44 |
| r0kk3rz | us jolla users get weirded out having to use buttons every time we pick up an android phone | 19:45 |
| Anonyneko | No surprise there | 19:45 |
| M4rtinK | I think it might be a nice hack | 19:47 |
| M4rtinK | to map them to the back gesture and peak to launcher :) | 19:47 |
| Anonyneko | Also, the lack of a video player that supports 10-bit h264 and .ass subtitles is probably the main reason I'm not using it much | 19:48 |
| Anonyneko | Yeah, that'd be quite nifty | 19:48 |
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| Anonyneko | But I'm impressed at how the OS manages without the software buttons that are on androids without hardware buttons | 19:49 |
| Anonyneko | The one thing that always annoyed me on a lot of Android devices is that black bar at the bottom that eats up space | 19:49 |
| M4rtinK | this one has some subtitle support: https://openrepos.net/content/llelectronics/lls-video-player | 19:50 |
| Anonyneko | .srt only, I gather | 19:50 |
| Anonyneko | I have it installed and it didn't show subs in .mkv files I had | 19:50 |
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| Anonyneko | Which were probably .ass | 19:50 |
| Anonyneko | Knowing chinese cartoon fansubbing groups | 19:51 |
| M4rtinK | also https://openrepos.net/content/xerxes2/ultimate-codec-support | 19:51 |
| M4rtinK | I still haven't really got used to watching stuff on such a small screen | 19:52 |
| M4rtinK | might be better with the tablet | 19:52 |
| r0kk3rz | or a phone with a bigger screen | 19:52 |
| M4rtinK | it might also give people more incentives to do a better native video player :) | 19:53 |
| Anonyneko | I installed that thing, without it I couldn't even play simple h264, but it still doesn't have 10-bit support | 19:53 |
| r0kk3rz | but yes, thats what tablets are for | 19:53 |
| Anonyneko | I constantly watch stuff on my phone, it's great in the subway | 19:54 |
| Anonyneko | It's too crowded for a tablet | 19:54 |
| M4rtinK | I usually just read stuff on it | 19:54 |
| Anonyneko | 5.5" screen is pretty large, too | 19:54 |
| M4rtinK | twitter, email, ebooks (text only and light novels) | 19:54 |
| Anonyneko | It shakes too much to read sometimes... | 19:54 |
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| Anonyneko | Also, my anime backlog is just that huge, heh | 19:55 |
| Anonyneko | For Jolla phone/tablet there's MX Player thankfully, but no such luck for ports | 19:55 |
| M4rtinK | I still like to have at least a 15" and ideally 24" screen for watching anime :) | 19:55 |
| M4rtinK | bomi would be nice: https://bomi-player.github.io/ | 19:56 |
| Anonyneko | If I understood how to make a video player out of ffdshow I'd probably do a native one, but that's another area I'm quite new at | 19:56 |
| Anonyneko | Well, most of the time I do watch from my 16" Vaio | 19:56 |
| r0kk3rz | port vlc | 19:57 |
| M4rtinK | I've started using it recently and it works really well :) | 19:57 |
| Anonyneko | VLC for Android is very, very slow | 19:57 |
| M4rtinK | do fansubbers still have VLC ? :) | 19:57 |
| Anonyneko | I just use MPC-HC because I'm a Windows guy | 19:58 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, I really need to finally start porting my manga & comic book viewer to Sailfish OS | 19:58 |
| r0kk3rz | vlc for android would need to work in dalvik | 19:58 |
| M4rtinK | Anonyneko: bomi has a windows port AFAIK | 19:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | but compiling all the build-deps is an undertaking in itself i think | 19:59 |
| Anonyneko | Which viewer is that? | 19:59 |
| M4rtinK | this is how my reader app looks on Harmattan: https://openrepos.net/content/martink/mieru | 19:59 |
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| Anonyneko | Nice | 19:59 |
| Anonyneko | I'd use it a lot probably (somehow all Android manga readers suck, even Perfect Viewer has some issues despite all that functionality) | 20:00 |
| Anonyneko | I wanted to "port" the publication reader app I wrote for Android, but it's pretty code-heavy so I'll need to read up on Qt more | 20:02 |
| Anonyneko | It wasn't a good idea to jump into it without trying the desktop version before, I guess | 20:02 |
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| olpe | is there a silica filepicker? I think I have seen something like that somewhere | 20:34 |
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| coderus | olpe: there is one in sailfish browser | 20:54 |
| olpe | ok. probably that's where I've seen it coderus | 20:55 |
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| Anonyneko | Well, QGraphicsWebView isn't available anyway so I won't even bother then, but gosh, WebView is way too limited | 20:56 |
| r0kk3rz | orly? might have to go hacking | 20:56 |
| Anonyneko | Is there any way to use QtWebKit 1.0? The WebView there seems to be more functional | 20:56 |
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| Anonyneko | Maybe if I figure out how to import QtWebKit.experimental 1.0... | 21:03 |
| coderus | import QtWebKit.experimental 1.0? | 21:04 |
| Anonyneko | Yes, it seems to extend WebView from QtWebKit 3.0 with some undocumented functions | 21:05 |
| Anonyneko | But qt creator says "not found" and I'm googling around | 21:05 |
| coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/better-sailfishos-qmltypes/blob/Sdk1502/QtWebKit/experimental/plugins.qmltypes | 21:05 |
| Anonyneko | Woah, awesome, thanks | 21:07 |
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| Anonyneko | Whooooo amazing it works thanks, I have a stretchy webview now | 21:17 |
| Anonyneko | Just settings webview.height = webview.experimental.page.height and it works just like I wanted it to | 21:18 |
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| coderus | cool :) | 21:19 |
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| Anonyneko | It's just that the json api of a certain site I wanted to make a client for returns article body as an HTML chunk and the rest just as values - I wanted to have a native header and load the body below it | 21:21 |
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