Saturday, 2015-04-11

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coderusis it update day?04:47
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jaacoppiwould be nice for Jolla to keep their promise of update every month05:24
jaacoppiDoes anyone know of a working image pinch zoom code? I've tried PinchArea in a few ways but haven't succeeded05:25
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coderusjaacoppi: check jolla gallery qml files?05:46
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jaacoppiright, good idea. I didn't remember the files are on my phone05:59
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SaberAltriaHello Guys07:01
SaberAltriaI got a problem07:01
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SaberAltriaI have a function to change x of an item, and I use behavior on x, numberanimation to smoothen the action07:02
SaberAltriabut my assigned value should be 5007:03
SaberAltriaand after applied the numberanimation, the value is 50.010103132, something like that07:03
SaberAltriaHow comes07:03
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coderusaSa~.10:05
coderusSaberAltria: optimization :D10:05
coderusSaberAltria: and if you add NumberAnimation as element and start it instead of using behaviour, what would be result value?10:07
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jaacoppiinteresting, jolla-gallery doesn't use PinchArea. jolla-camera does13:52
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satmd(how) can I reset the app launcher icon order?14:00
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r0kk3rzsatmd: crash lipstick14:24
satmdhm. lipstick was the keyword14:27
satmdI found ~/.config/lipstick ;)14:27
attahOnce again i find myself failing to "think qt" how do i make images scale down, but not up?14:27
r0kk3rzattah: in qml?14:30
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attahr0kk3rz: yes :)14:31
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attah"icon.width: width > 150 ? 150 : width" is both ugly and does not work :P14:33
r0kk3rzhttp://doc.qt.io/qt-4.8/qml-image.html14:34
r0kk3rzseems pretty straight forward14:34
attahi only understand how to influence the type of scaling from there, not the presence of it14:37
r0kk3rzwhy doesnt your example work? seems like it should14:42
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r0kk3rzbut you'll need to reference the 'width' property correctly14:42
attahyes.. i found that14:42
r0kk3rzbecause icon.width will always equal icon.width14:42
attahstill didn't work though.. now nothing shows14:43
attahnot even the ones >15014:43
attahwait a sec.. i changed one place.. not both.. xD14:44
attahor maybe i misunderstand completely..14:46
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r0kk3rzhow are you determining the native size of the image?14:48
attahyeah.. i misunderstood what you meant then..14:48
attahi was initially referencing the containing object's size14:48
attahso.. I'm not14:49
r0kk3rzah14:49
r0kk3rzlooks like image as a sourcesize property14:50
attahnow at least i do it based on knowing the only image that isn't too large.. i'll check sourcesize next14:51
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r0kk3rzwouldnt you want something like icon.width: sourceSize.width > 150 ? 150 : sourceSize.width14:54
attah"icon.height: icon.sourceSize.height > 150 ? 150 : icon.sourceSize.width"14:54
attahexactly14:54
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attahbut shouldn't there be a simpler way to tell it to do the same thing??14:54
r0kk3rznot sure how you can get much simpler than a single if statement14:55
attahsomething like "scale: onlyDown"14:56
r0kk3rzyeah but that property doesnt exist14:57
attahi know.. but i thought i was missing some obvious way to do that without inline if14:58
jaacoppiAnyone else feel QML syntax is not human readable?14:59
r0kk3rzit looks like you can manipulate the sourceSize property to do some scaling14:59
r0kk3rzjaacoppi: i feel its perfectly readable14:59
r0kk3rzjaacoppi: compared to others anyway... XAML is definitely not human readable14:59
attahi don't mind it compared to some other things i have seen14:59
jaacoppicompared to the ones I've seen (basic, python, c) QML is just horrible15:00
jaacoppieven asm is easier to read than QML15:00
attahit's within the range of how c-code can look imo15:01
attahnot as good as good c-code.. but still15:01
r0kk3rzattah: remove the conditional, and set height: sourceSize.height, and set sourceSize.height: 15015:01
r0kk3rzthe docs says it will scale down large images, not sure whether that scales up small ones though15:02
r0kk3rzi wouldnt think so15:02
attahi'll try in a sec, thanks!15:02
r0kk3rznot sure whether you have to explicitly state height: sourceSize.height: height nor not15:03
r0kk3rznah you dont15:03
r0kk3rzso a one liner15:04
r0kk3rzjaacoppi: i was comparing only to UI languages15:07
r0kk3rzsince thats all QML is for15:07
attahr0kk3rz: seems to scale up :/15:08
r0kk3rzinteresting15:08
r0kk3rzseems like an odd thing for that property to do, but nevermind15:08
attahthis is what i did: http://piratepad.net/5rVKll0QDG15:09
r0kk3rzyeah15:09
r0kk3rzyou shouldnt need those last two lines, but if setting the sourcesize property scales it up then it doesnt really matter15:10
r0kk3rzuse the conditional15:10
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attahyup, i will for now at least15:10
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pakohi, any developers here ?15:37
pakoi'm totally new to sailfishos/qml developing, and i have some questions15:38
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raa700how about trying to ask the questions15:38
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pakocan i open the second page from first page and pass a variable ?15:39
pakoi have a thumb image in the first page, and if i click the thumb, i want to open the full image on second page15:39
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uuhimherelocusf, hey hows sailpi going15:45
coderuspako: pageStack.push("NewPage.qml", {"thumbProperty": value})15:46
uuhimhereso does sailfishos support MIPS?15:46
coderusproperties will be assigned when pushing page15:46
uuhimherewas just wondering if it could be run on one of these http://www.anandtech.com/show/8702/ingenic-launches-newton2-mips-based-iot-and-wearables-solution15:46
pakocoderus: thanks, i'll try it15:47
coderusuuhimhere: "support" is porting  question15:47
coderusall system packages should be capabl to be ported to mips architecture15:47
uuhimherehttp://www.ingenic.com/en/?newton/id/1.html15:47
locusfuuhimhere: hey, all good going, testing new screen, waiting on antenna and battery to make it standalone15:47
uuhimherejust looking at that; its quite a cheap kit15:48
uuhimhereeven comes with a lipo battery*15:48
uuhimherehttp://www.ingenic.com/en/?newton/id/1/lm/2.html15:48
uuhimheresource code is there15:49
uuhimhere"To get the Newton2 Linux source code, click to "Download Newton2 Linux Source Code"."15:49
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uuhimherelocusf, what are you going to use for the charger15:50
locusfuuhimhere: any microusb15:51
uuhimhereyeah what about PMIC15:51
locusfpmic?15:51
uuhimherepower management IC15:51
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uuhimherehow are you going to control the charging of the battery15:52
uuhimhereie monitor charge leve, stop charging when full, change charge levels etc15:53
locusfnot my problem, its got its own things for it15:54
locusfhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/28139167436715:54
uuhimhereahh ok15:55
uuhimhereso can you monitor it from the OS?15:55
locusfnope15:55
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uuhimhereso you cant tell your battery level from the UI ?15:57
uuhimherei guess its just a proof of concept15:57
uuhimheredoes it have any display15:57
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pakocoderus: and how can i get access to the property? if i just want to print it i get: "ReferenceError: thumbProperty is not defined"15:59
uuhimherelocusf, http://www.ingenic.com/en/?newton/id/1/lm/1.html16:00
coderusyou should have this property defined in your target page16:01
uuhimherelocusf, unfortunately no baseband16:01
coderuspako: ^^16:01
pakocoderus: as i said, i'm totally new... but i'll try it16:03
coderuspako: you asked: "can i open the second page from first page and pass a variable ?"16:08
coderusso you passing value to your variable16:08
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locusfuuhimhere: it does have touchscreen16:09
pakocoderus: yeah and thats working just fine, now i have a new problem - reading that variable in the second page16:09
locusfuuhimhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HpsMkUIBDY16:09
uuhimhereit has everything that goes into a tablet16:10
uuhimheresorry was thalking about the MIPS board16:10
locusfuuhimhere: ah ok16:10
uuhimherelocusf, so whats next ? nemomobile on pi2?16:11
locusfuuhimhere: nemo mobile already happened16:11
uuhimherelocusf, a full fledged phone with a battery16:11
uuhimhere?16:11
dirkvlyou mean like a sailpi?16:12
dirkvlworking on it16:12
coderuspako: what is the problem?16:13
pakocoderus: i don't know how i can access the "thumbProperty" - so i don't know how i can define it16:14
uuhimherelocusf, including the battery & antenna how fat do you think the phone will be?16:15
locusfuuhimhere: well thats to be found out still :)16:15
locusfuuhimhere: I'll snap a pic some day once they arrive16:15
r0kk3rzmy guess would be very fat16:16
dirkvlmy guess would be 29.5mm16:18
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uuhimherethats not that bad16:19
locusffor dirks setup it will plaud true16:19
uuhimhereits like the pandora16:19
uuhimhereexcept you can make calls on it16:19
coderuspako: lets start with beginning16:20
coderuswhat value you want to assignt to what variable?16:21
pakocoderus: a text value (to specify: an url - from that url i want to view an image in second view)16:21
r0kk3rz3cm, yeah thats pretty fat for a mobile device16:21
r0kk3rzabout what i expected really16:21
uuhimherewell its a mobile device made out of modular & off the shelf components16:22
dirkvluuhimhere: maybe continue on #saipi?16:23
uuhimherehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZd0IYJ7J4016:24
r0kk3rzuuhimhere: exactly, im not surprised. but i wasnt the one asking the question16:26
uuhimhereyeah so its not that fat a mobile device16:29
uuhimhereon par w/ the dragonbox pandora16:29
uuhimherelocusf, now all you have to do is run psxreARMed on it and youd have the first sailfish OS device to run a psx emulator16:30
uuhimherealso it could be the first mobile device to support full open GL and not just gles16:32
uuhimherewhen the free drivers are ready that is...16:32
coderuspako: so, you set to assign that value to some property. you can't assign it to air :D16:33
pakocoderus: and how could i assign this value to some property in the second page?16:34
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coderusyou should have thumbProperty defined in second page16:36
pakocoderus: via "id" or how could i define thumbProperty?16:37
r0kk3rzpako: property type myPropertyName16:41
pakocoderus: i didn't have success with "id" and with "property string thumbProperty"16:41
pakocoderus, r0kk3rz: do i have to place "property string thumbProperty" to a specific place in code ?16:42
r0kk3rzwell it should be inside a page object16:42
pakookay, thanks. that was my problem. it was inside the image object16:44
pakothank you both, now it works16:44
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pakoanother quick question: could i reload a page easily via the pull down menu ?16:45
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r0kk3rzsure, but for what purpose?16:47
abertschihi there, does somebody know how to select in qmake files whether to do something for i486 or armv7? I want to add a lib depending on these targets16:48
pakoon page load i got a json from the web, this json could get new content16:48
pakoand on reload, i want to check if theres new content16:48
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coderuspako: just get new json and parse it16:50
r0kk3rzload the json in a function, call function in onPageLoad and onClicked16:51
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pakookay, i'll try this - so i can't just say something like page.reload() ?16:53
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coderuspako: indeed16:54
pakookay, thank you coderus and r0kk3rz16:55
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uuhimherehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EXDeketJNdk16:55
uuhimherelocusf, you know when they eventually release the compute module for the BCM2836 people will theoretically be able to actually *design* their own phone board and use the sailpi as an example16:58
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locusfyeah16:58
sjtoikinteresting topic, but can't watch with that bad audio16:58
sjtoikouh. it was my pulseaudio distorting17:00
r0kk3rzpako: you could use a loader to do things like that, but it seems silly to reload the whole page17:01
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r0kk3rzwhen what you really want is to just load the json and update the object values17:01
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stephggood evening18:40
Stskeepsgood evening stephg :)18:40
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stephghey hey Stskeeps hope you're well :)18:44
Stskeepscurrently in amsterdam; hacking in my hotel room18:44
stephgcool18:45
stephghow come you're there? conf or work or..18:45
Stskeepsconf on friday, plane tickets were too expensive on saturdays18:45
stephgas is often the way18:45
Stskeepsyeah..18:46
Ikarusand hey, it's Amsterdam18:47
IkarusI'm silly enough to actually live there18:48
Stskeepsi suspect i could stand living here18:48
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r0kk3rzholland sure, amsterdam? not really20:10
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