Sunday, 2015-02-22

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coderuschem|st: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1034922001:05
coderuschem|st: no rbind here for data01:05
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chem|stcoderus: I should not do this stuff drunk! if we move data down to the rbind it should work right?01:25
coderuschem|st: i changed to: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1034944301:25
coderuschem|st: and it works this way01:25
chem|styeah... that should do, not the way I would go but well01:27
chem|stI'd check if /data/media is in /proc/mount the n rbind if it is not just bind01:27
chem|stand leave the androidsdcard.service or .mount as is01:27
coderusthis is the only thing i changed01:29
chem|stfor going outside of that .sh I just wrote to the other on tjc to look for the fuse mount and if that is there stop aliendalvik and .mount01:29
coderusthen i umounted /opt/alien/data01:29
coderusand restarted aliendalvik01:29
chem|stcoderus: yeah it is just fine the way you did01:29
coderusand everything works01:29
chem|stif the house does not burn down you might just move the data bit down to the section that gets rbind01:31
coderusit should work also, will try01:32
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chem|stI will try that tomorrow and then ask if jolla might consider that little cahnge for us01:33
chem|stI don't think there is anything else ever be mounted below /data01:33
coderushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1034956501:34
coderusyeah it works also01:34
chem|ston reboot?01:35
coderuson umount && systemctl restart01:35
coderusshould i try reboot also? :D01:35
chem|stok I would not put the mount in there, use systemd to mount the subvolume01:35
coderusi see no any harm here01:36
chem|stthe less change the better for $user01:36
coderus:)01:36
coderusif making patch it is same01:36
chem|stwont be easy to get those $people to change the data bit in the first place01:36
coderusjust add last item to your guide for u11:01:37
taixzo_awaycoderus: did you make the patch for music controls on lockscreen?01:38
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coderuscurl chemist.server/aliend_sdcard_patch.patch | patch -p 1 -d /01:38
coderustaixzo: yes01:38
coderuschem|st: and umount /opt/alien/data01:39
taixzocoderus: how do I enable it? I installed it, rebooted, tested playing a song, but saw no controls01:39
chem|stcoderus: no idea how to make patchfiles (diff probably)01:39
chem|styeah I probably just let them reboot!01:40
coderustaixzo: open patchmanager - apply patch - pulley menu - restart preloaded servvices. go to settings - lockscreen player controls - select your player here, then open your player and play song.01:40
chem|stcoderus: does that work for you (mediaplayer) my lipstick crashed when I tried that with 1.1.201:40
coderuschem|st: as you wish, diff, or git.01:40
coderuschem|st: yes it works fine.01:41
chem|sthmm01:41
chem|stok, next stop bed... have to catch that train now ;)01:41
coderuschem|st: maybe you have very old patch01:42
coderusit was updated tens of times01:42
taixzocoderus: awesome! That worked, thanks!01:42
coderustaixzo: :D01:42
taixzonow, with music, back to actual work01:43
coderuschem|st: good luck01:43
taixzogave up on installing sailfishos sdk on my macbook, going to use my HP for now01:44
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coderusaxolotl is destroyed my mind01:46
coderusif anyone want to help debugging this sheet you welcome!01:47
coderusping me and i will send you all the details01:47
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taixzoHas anyone got espeak working on Sailfish? I tried a random package I found on Google (yeah, not a great start) and it just crashes the phone03:00
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jaacoppitaixzo: I'm interested in getting it work as well06:04
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kimmolitaixzo: jaacoppi: i have espeak working06:41
jaacoppianything special needed for that?06:54
kimmolii dont remember anymore, i downloaded sources 1.48-04 and built them on the phone06:55
kimmoliexport LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/nemo/work/espeak/espeak-1.48.04-source/src && /home/nemo/work/espeak/espeak-1.48.04-source/src/espeak --stdout -v fi "nyt kuorimaan ne perunat" | gst-launch-0.10 -v fdsrc ! wavparse ! audioconvert ! alsasink06:57
kimmoliis the cmdline then to run it06:57
locusf:D06:58
kimmoli?06:58
locusffunny you should say that in espeak :)06:58
kimmolisimulator...06:59
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taixzooh07:06
taixzoI tried running that and it worked, too07:06
taixzoI was trying it the way I would on maemo/harmattan, i.e. ~$ espeak "This is a test"07:07
taixzowhich makes the phone reboot07:08
kimmoliit needa to be built agains correct audio libs afaik... but output to file (or stdout) works07:10
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jaacoppinyt kuorimaan ne perunat..07:20
jaacoppithere must be a story related to this07:21
jaacoppieh, didn't read the logs07:22
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Nokiushas someone tryed qt-declarative have it installe in MER SDK and Emulator but SDK still tells me its missing :( (sync is done more than oen time by now)09:02
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coderusNokius: who says you it's missing?10:08
coderusand what exactly is missing where?10:08
coderusyou should use BuildRequires and Requires and not to install packages manually10:08
coderusand then all dependencies would be resolved automatically10:08
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anYcIf I want to develop a python app for SFOS and don't need the IDE, it's easier to develop on the phone directly using SSH instead of setting up the SDK VM or am I missing something?11:15
coderusIs anybody know if there any way to fix laptop after static electricity shock into one usb port, usb port stopped working and southbridge now overheating :D11:18
coderusanYc: i think you still heed silica qml reference11:18
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anYcok thanks11:39
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locusfyou can self-setup mer sdk and install sailfish targets11:42
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anandrkrisHi - https://together.jolla.com/question/62789/bug-messages-punctuation-restricts-click-to-dial-for-phone-numbers-jolla-sailors-grateful-for-ack-here/12:29
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anandrkrisI hate reminding people but don't seem to have a choice :(12:31
chem|stanandrkris: I hate you making a fuzz about it! you behave like this is the ONE AND ONLY relevant bug on tjc and should be fixed first - that is arrogant and selfish at least12:32
Stskeepserr..12:32
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Stskeepsanandrkris: remember that everything is staged. the fixes that come now is the product of a release branching that came over a month ago12:33
Stskeepsthings go through QA12:33
anandrkrischem|st: i have been patient enough12:33
Stskeepsthere's no such thing as a one day fix, especially when it comes to ui changes12:33
chem|stand I have been patient with you buggering! and listen to stskeeps12:33
anandrkrisStskeeps: Agree12:33
anandrkrishow many times have i raised - not more than couple of occasions12:33
Stskeepsit doesn't make bugs more or less important, it's just that that's the pace we can fix issues and it has to happen in a structured manners12:33
Stskeepsdevelopers burn out if they can't work in a structured manner12:34
anandrkrisStskeeps: I am aware and also part of IT team that builds software although not a programmer12:34
Stskeepsand often people can't see the wider picture, that there are bugs that are directly release blocking that comes first12:34
chem|stit even might be that you will find that fix in u14 as that might be already in the works and closed for new stuff that is not critical12:34
anandrkrischem|st: i was hoping someone like coderus will offer a openrepos pack12:35
anandrkriswhich has happended for 3 of my request12:35
Stskeepsand even if all this was open source, there'd still be a delay12:35
Stskeepsuntil it makes it out to consumers12:35
anandrkrisif i had just kept patient and prayed for it to happen12:36
anandrkriswould it have helped..be honest12:36
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chem|stand constantly bugging about it makes people to ignore you... that is like calling fire all day long12:36
Stskeepsand we're even being transparent about what we're working on, planning to work on, etc12:36
Stskeepscompared to places like google bug reporting which is a total /dev/null12:36
Stskeeps(for android)12:36
anandrkrischem|st: *constantly* is an exaggeration12:36
Stskeepsmeanwhile, it's all about priorities: MWC is the biggest event a year for a mobile company. it's where major telephone networks and ODMs and OEMs decide the lineup of the year12:37
anandrkrisStskeeps: Agree...if it had been ack'ed on TJC thread i would not have create any fuss...trust me12:37
Stskeepsacknowledgement does not mean a fix will be delivered tomorrow12:37
chem|stanandrkris: "I will bump this every day until it is fixed" in terms of software development that is calling fire constantly12:37
anandrkrischem|st: that was a click-bait12:38
Stskeepsit means that it is agreed it exists and people will look into it12:38
anandrkris:)12:38
Stskeepsbut not in any way a promise of fixing for a certain timeframe12:38
chem|stclick-bait... I did not click your link.. I know that by heart by now...12:38
anandrkrisbecause you're regular on TJC12:39
anandrkrisanyways i dont want to offend anyone...12:39
anandrkrishave put lot of my leisure time into TJC helping users...cleaning up posts..answers..etc12:40
Stskeepssure, but there's a thousand issues to deal with12:40
Stskeepsand i even have a few pet peeves that hasn't gotten solved12:40
anandrkrislol12:40
anandrkrisStskeeps - i submit now12:41
anandrkrismy bad when it was ack'ed here in IRC couple of months ago i falsely hoped it to feature in one or two releases12:42
anandrkrisanyways this will be the last time i will ever touch the thread or talk about it here12:43
Stskeepsit works like this in jolla: we pre-plan an iteration at a time as technical chiefs, the individual owners of the different areas then take up what they realistically can work on and what's important for company or product a whole; then there's additional deadlines of when things should be entered into releases12:43
Stskeepsbecause it all has to be in sync, test cases, translations, designs12:44
anandrkrisStskeeps: Hmm...Update 10 had quite number of bug fixes listed12:44
anandrkrisi cant see a list in Update 11 other than base package updates12:44
Stskeepsit did, because it's kinda been collected over half a year12:44
Stskeepsas we weren't able to push things out12:44
anandrkrisStskeeps: I should have listened to you when you advised me to learn QML12:45
anandrkris:)12:45
Stskeepsi should learn qml too12:45
anandrkrisha ha12:45
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satmdhello world12:52
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Stskeepshello satmd12:53
satmd:)12:53
satmdwhat's up?12:54
Stskeepsnot much12:55
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Stskeepsand watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTFG3J1CP812:55
Stskeeps:P12:55
satmd:D12:56
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anandrkrisStskeeps: chem|st : Anyways, i apologize for my behavior - bumping and some gentle reminders would help my cause i thought12:57
Stskeepsit doesn't12:58
Stskeepsif there's a bug, it's there, it gets evaluated12:58
Stskeepswe have special views to see our areas12:58
anandrkrisTJC post is corrected and is objective12:58
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anandrkrisvotes doesn't help?12:58
anandrkrisif it doesn't help, why have votes :)12:59
Stskeepsvotes help as that becomes input in the pre-planning12:59
anandrkrishmm...i think votes serve as significant input for feature requests13:00
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anandrkrisAlso i was not aware then that TJC posts with the tag 'bug' is auto-tracked13:01
anandrkristill someone pointed it out13:01
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anandrkrisHi one doubt on Ambience color switcher - it is shown only when an ambience is made a favorite?13:13
anandrkrisCan someone pls confirm?13:14
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kimmolianandrkris: seems so13:22
anandrkrisHmm...think it is intended behavior?13:23
kimmolipropably, no access to specs :(13:24
anandrkrishmm ok13:29
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coderusanandrkris: LinkParser is proprietary module, i can't do anything with it14:31
coderus(of course i can disassembly it and change some regexp, but it very time-waste task)14:32
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cos-got weird behavior with latest opt-in update. camera app failed to start until i rebooted the phone.15:49
cos-it stayed in launchin state for ~30s and then disappeared15:49
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coderuscos-: camera can't be recovered after crash without reboot16:10
coderusif you somehow killed camera process while viewfinder is active - reboot16:10
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taixzoIs there a sailfish equivalent to alarmd on Maemo (i.e. a program that lets me set custom alarms)?16:32
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coderustaixzo: timed16:48
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taixzocoderus: could you point me toward documentation for timed? It seems to be very hard to google by being named such a common word17:03
kimmoli? https://github.com/nemomobile/timed/tree/master/src/doc17:04
coderustaixzo: me not, i not used it, just checked what backend jolla is using, check kimmo link17:06
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taixzohmm. It seems to be only accessible to c/c++ programs. :/17:17
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coderustaixzo: you want this? https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-alarms17:19
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taixzoso, if I understand, that makes alarms accessible from qml17:20
taixzo?17:20
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coderustaixzo: i don't know, description says it's "Alarms QML plugin", you must try it yourself17:22
* taixzo will try once this natural language parser starts working17:22
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coderusCheck this out! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipC_rrrLk-019:03
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never_not available in germany, thanks to GEMA xD19:17
Nokiuscoderus: SDK say in Build-Issues "Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: declarative"19:19
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NokiusWhen I open the Project (https://gitorious.org/camdrive/camdrive_qml/source/ab7660263aab176299a603b4c5923ee8c166a992:) like to see if it Builds and may work I know its formthe passt but I like to record my summer Trip / roads I drive19:20
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Nokiusnever_: thanks for the info so no copy&paste :(19:21
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never_Nokius: https://www.freeyoutubeproxy.org  - Worked for me. I liked, what i saw ;)19:24
Nokius:( flash19:25
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Nokius:D19:27
coderusnever_: i reuploaded with no audio :D19:32
coderusNokius: you trying to build qt4 sources for qt519:32
Nokius:,(19:33
Nokiuscoderus: it works now fine (video)19:33
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coderusNokius: i know :)19:36
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Nokius_what :D19:45
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coderusvideo is working fine now without  audio19:50
Nokius_Cover issue for message applaction and dialer is still in 1.1.2.15 :(19:50
Nokius_coderus: yeah this anti pirate function is awesome!19:50
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Nokius_so now Jolla video and gps tracking for me this summer :(19:54
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kaippariis there a solution to move  .home to sdcard on 1.1.1.27 ?19:57
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coderuskaippari: is there any problem with this sailfish version?20:04
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kaipparicoderus, nope just filling up phone main memory20:05
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kaipparicoderus, I did try one guide 1.0.x  but didn't get it working20:06
coderuskaippari: i mean is there any problem do do this in 1.1.1.27?20:07
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kaipparicoderus,  I just don't know how. I can see mmcblk1p1 59 G but could not get .home or .android there20:09
coderuskaippari: did you formatted your sdcard to btrfs or ext4 first?20:10
kaipparicoderus, ext420:11
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coderuskaippari: so, what the problem exactly you got?20:13
kaipparicoderus, phone is still using internal memory so mapping to sdcard is not working.20:15
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coderuskaippari: how you did that?20:18
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kaipparicoderus, following this guide http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9244920:19
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coderuskaippari: it should work20:23
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coderusstart script manually and check output and mount results20:23
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kaipparicoderus, OK20:25
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kaipparicoderus, got it. Cleared some typos21:01
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faenilcoderus: the swiping effect looks better than I expected, it's nice21:38
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coderusfaenil: i lost week debugging it to show something to users :D22:18
coderusand it's not ready yet, still many bugs :)22:19
coderuscan anyone show me desktop file launching dbus for sailfishos?22:19
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coderusi puzzled a bit22:19
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coderushm, X-Maemo- thing works, but i should use function with QStringList params method, okay22:33
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