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| Mikaela | I wonder where is my pink TOH. I think it was delivered last week, but I have received nothing. Posti has probably eaten it and as it was letter, there isn't tracking code either | 04:28 |
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| jaacoppi | colored TOH apparels bring back memories from "good old times", Nokia 3210 and so on | 06:37 |
| jaacoppi | they were very useful when 60% of people had the same phone | 06:37 |
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| Stskeeps | jaacoppi: so, not completely unlike the samsungs and apples of today? | 06:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:43 |
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| coderus | SK_work: ping | 07:14 |
| coderus | what homescreen-swipe-feedpack patch does? | 07:14 |
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| coderus | SK_work: also i'd like to create wiki with patches and description, where to do it? | 07:20 |
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| coderus | SK_work: also i wanted to transfer my patches repos to sailfishos-patches organization, but i have no rights for that :D | 07:23 |
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| SK_work | coderus: I will give you full rights, + use wiki.merproject.org | 08:43 |
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| SK_work | coderus: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish create a subpage like "community patching" inside this wiki ? | 08:44 |
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| SK_work | coderus: invited: you have full rights on sailfishos-patches | 08:45 |
| coderus | SK_work: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish is so ugly, you sure? :D | 08:49 |
| coderus | i'm thinking about wiki inside github | 08:49 |
| SK_work | coderus: hum | 08:49 |
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| SK_work | if you prefer github, inside the organization ? | 08:49 |
| SK_work | or better create a github.io? :) | 08:49 |
| coderus | what is github.io? | 08:50 |
| Mikaela | github pages | 08:51 |
| coderus | ah, pages | 08:51 |
| coderus | is it possible to put wiki in pages? | 08:51 |
| Mikaela | <username/organization>.github.io | 08:51 |
| Mikaela | I don't think so | 08:51 |
| coderus | it just html pages | 08:51 |
| Mikaela | unless you use some Jekyll magic maybe | 08:51 |
| Mikaela | and require edits with pull requesets etc. | 08:51 |
| coderus | yeah | 08:52 |
| tbr | and suddenly mer wiki sounds much more appealing ;) | 08:52 |
| coderus | SK_work: just use patchmanager project wiki? | 08:52 |
| SK_work | coderus: let's go for patchmanager wiki then | 08:52 |
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| coderus | SK_work: why settings-volume-slider-fix in patches-base when homescreen-eventview-control-center is in advanced? | 09:21 |
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| SK_work | coderus: slider fix is in base as it do not touch "critical part of the system" | 09:25 |
| SK_work | it only touches settings | 09:25 |
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| netvanda1 | morning all | 09:29 |
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| coderus | SK_work: but it useless and designed for control center addition | 09:32 |
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| coderus | what process to kill to fix stuck camera after killing camera process? | 09:47 |
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| tbr | I always thought camera was firmware and if that barfs the only recourse is reboot | 09:53 |
| tbr | it's the same on android on my Nx4 and Nx7 | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | what tbr said | 09:54 |
| tbr | there are also fun interdependencies due to the IP-blocks that are used for this | 09:54 |
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| tbr | If on my Nx7-2013 I'd go and use multimedia decoding a lot (e.g. a funny picture app that shows movies and pictures and you swipe through hundreds), then eventually the IP block for multimedia would crash and that also disables camera. | 09:55 |
| Stargazers | Hi. I was wondering, can I easily send SMS via Command Line and also get calendar items & address books itens from command line? | 09:58 |
| Stargazers | Just curious - I have no (yet!) Jolla phone, but I might buy one some day if I can do nice hacking stuff with it on CLI :P | 09:58 |
| Stargazers | At least on older versions it worked I think (source: forums), but has anything changed since then? | 09:58 |
| Stargazers | (At least SMS sending worked from CLI). | 09:59 |
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| tbr | it's still telepathy, so you can still use any telepathy client, including cli to e.g. send messages | 09:59 |
| Stargazers | Ok, thanks! Good to know :) | 09:59 |
| tbr | also, don't be a jerk and stick your tongue out at people that are trying to help you, thanks. | 09:59 |
| Stargazers | What? | 10:00 |
| Stargazers | Oh! | 10:00 |
| tbr | ":P" | 10:00 |
| Stargazers | You, you meant ":P", ok. Sorry. | 10:00 |
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| tbr | you wouldn't do that in real life, don't do it online. | 10:00 |
| Stargazers | Meant that that :P for "hacking stuff" line, didn't meant to be rude. | 10:00 |
| Nicd- | tbr: :P | 10:00 |
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| Stargazers | Well, I might do it in real life :D | 10:01 |
| * tbr fwaps Nicd- | 10:01 | |
| Nicd- | :P :P :P :P :P | 10:01 |
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| tbr | Nicd-: be careful, I drive a tank :-þ | 10:01 |
| Stargazers | But anyway, thank you for your answer. Hopefully I can buy a Jolla phone some day. | 10:01 |
| Stargazers | I liked that on N900 I had a possibility to read smses directly from SQLite db from cli. | 10:02 |
| Nicd- | tbr: you'll run out of diesel halfway through Hervanta | 10:02 |
| tbr | Nicd-: 98 octane goodness, 20+ litres per hundred km. | 10:02 |
| Nicd- | it runs on gas? | 10:02 |
| tbr | yes, volvo B30 engine | 10:03 |
| Nicd- | I would've guessed diesel. with 6l / 100km I can still outrun you | 10:03 |
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| daitheflu | hey guys, I'm wondering if there are some guidelines (margins, font sizes, ...) regarding covers ? | 10:07 |
| Nicd- | tbr: have you thought of running it on natural/biogas? would probably save you a lot of money (if you drive it around a lot) | 10:08 |
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| tbr | Nicd-: with a 30d p.a. limit (museum register), that's not really an issue. | 10:09 |
| Nicd- | ahh | 10:09 |
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| tbr | Nicd-: if I'd want to drive it more frequently, I'd consider a turbo diesel conversion. Has been done frequently with those. But no longer original so no museum register. | 10:13 |
| Nicd- | I've been really thinking of a biogas conversion but our car is too small for the additional fuel tank. with the gasoline prices of last fall, it would've paid itself back completely after two years | 10:14 |
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| SK_work | coderus: I know ... | 10:20 |
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| pavi | Hey fellas this is pavi from the community dinner at Fosdem , Its nice to meet all of you guys | 10:35 |
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| pavi | Here are my Jolla specific blog posts https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5516778 and https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5529958 . | 10:36 |
| coderus | daitheflu: i didn't saw anything special. Still same Theme.paddingLarge margins for text and do wtf you want | 10:36 |
| pavi | ^ You don't need Diaspora account to read them , they are public posts | 10:36 |
| daitheflu | thanks coderus :) | 10:36 |
| locusf | hey pavi, didn't get to meet you but its a great dinner anyways :) | 10:38 |
| Nicd- | this is the first time I've ever seen anyone use diaspora | 10:38 |
| pavi | Nicd-, Thats strange you must check out the Jolla tagged posts from the german pod https://pod.geraspora.de/tags/jolla | 10:39 |
| pavi | There are so many like me. We also have our commnity incharge Carol Chen actively posting there | 10:39 |
| pavi | locusf, I am sorry I didn't get to meet many , I was late so I sat on the end table. | 10:39 |
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| pavi | OT - I was volunteering at Diaspora stall of FOSDEM and there were many interesting people with many questions . Most of them were telling I thought Diaspora died ! | 10:41 |
| faenil | pavi, nice :) | 10:41 |
| locusf | pavi: ah you probably met SK_work and faenil there :) I was sitting at he table nxt to you, guy in the orange shirt | 10:42 |
| faenil | yep | 10:42 |
| pavi | OT - Actually despite initial let down thanks to over expectations , the Diaspora community grew and it grew very strongly. | 10:42 |
| SK_work | hi pavi | 10:42 |
| pavi | locusf, Yes I know SK_work , He introduced me as the IRC guy :P | 10:42 |
| pavi | SK_work, Read my blog posts posted above I mentioned you ( indirectly ) ;) | 10:43 |
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| faenil | pavi, I was one of the italians :) I was sitting next to javispedro | 10:43 |
| SK_work | pavi: /me reading :) | 10:43 |
| SK_work | haha the systemd debate :) | 10:44 |
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| pavi | faenil, so you are the friend of netvandal ? The another italian means that if I am not wrong | 10:45 |
| pavi | faenil and SK_work tried sharing the change to get change :P | 10:45 |
| SK_work | yeah, the change :) | 10:45 |
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| faenil | pavi, there was netvandal, another italian guy in front of him | 10:47 |
| faenil | and then there was SK_work and his fiancee | 10:47 |
| faenil | and then there was me and a guy with long hair :) | 10:47 |
| faenil | (and then javispedro with the 4th italian guy at that table :D) | 10:47 |
| SK_work | faenil: and Elise | 10:48 |
| SK_work | so much italians | 10:48 |
| pavi | faenil, oops I need more memory I will look at this picture. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152601142520686&l=43da801456 you had a tshirt ? | 10:49 |
| faenil | pavi, I'm the second on the left | 10:50 |
| faenil | before SK_work | 10:50 |
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| pavi | faenil, ahh I remember , you also came to delirium later right ? | 10:50 |
| faenil | pavi, yep! we had a talk :) | 10:50 |
| faenil | pavi, somebody tagged me on javispedro on that pic :P | 10:51 |
| pavi | faenil, yeah but I dont remember the topic, was it about speed of rendering ? | 10:53 |
| faenil | yep hehe | 10:53 |
| faenil | I'm a bit boring, always talking about that :p | 10:53 |
| SK_work | faenil: :D | 10:54 |
| SK_work | faenil: speed of rendering ? | 10:54 |
| SK_work | have you ever considered working @ Qt or contribute to wayland ? | 10:54 |
| SK_work | :) | 10:54 |
| faenil | SK_work, if only TheQtCompany would bother replying to my application... | 10:55 |
| SK_work | :/ | 10:55 |
| SK_work | maybe if you were showing your gererit dashboard | 10:55 |
| faenil | yeah.. | 10:55 |
| SK_work | (this implies: contribute to Qt) | 10:55 |
| faenil | I have no contributions upstream, so.. | 10:55 |
| faenil | (not even elsewhere, in Qt) | 10:55 |
| faenil | I removed my tag on that pic, it kept showing me as javispedro :D | 10:56 |
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| coderus | SK_work: https://github.com/sailfishos-patches/patchmanager/wiki/Patches-list | 11:07 |
| SK_work | :) | 11:08 |
| SK_work | coderus: don't want to regroup your patches in a coderus-patches pakage ? :D | 11:08 |
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| coderus | SK_work: i don't want to group anything before you do a patches management inside patchmanager itself | 11:12 |
| SK_work | coderus: patches management ? | 11:13 |
| SK_work | patches package management ? or settings panel ? | 11:13 |
| SK_work | or both ? | 11:13 |
| SK_work | :) | 11:14 |
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| pavi | faenil, cool it was really nice to know , hey can you tell me the name of the guy who was responsible for porting Jolla to other devices whom we met after coming out of delirium , he is from lithuania | 11:18 |
| faenil | pavi, it's sledges ;) | 11:18 |
| Nicd- | he's porting Sailfish to other devices, not Jolla :) | 11:18 |
| pavi | faenil, Yeah I was searching online for him . was wondering if its sledges or vgrade . | 11:19 |
| leszek | after the redesign of sailfishos.org I can't seem to find the silica api documentation. Is it gone ? | 11:20 |
| pavi | Nicd-, Really sorry , I have mistaken the name Jolla from sailfish os , unless they distinguish themselves people will get confused by names . | 11:20 |
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| urjaman | leszek: gone from web, in SDK. | 11:20 |
| pavi | leszek, I have complained about the documentation , they are working on the redesign and this guy sledges is important person to contact for the webpage | 11:20 |
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| coderus | SK_work: downloading and removing patches within patchmanager | 11:20 |
| leszek | ah ok. Hmm... the sdk misses too much sadly | 11:21 |
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| SK_work | coderus: hum ok, will need to think about this | 11:22 |
| leszek | and the clipboard is still not working reliable | 11:22 |
| coderus | SK_work: should i do it myself? :D | 11:24 |
| SK_work | coderus: feel free, send pull requests to patchmanager client | 11:24 |
| SK_work | if you can read my messy code here :D | 11:24 |
| coderus | SK_work: just one thing to decide: where to keep metadata? i mean online. | 11:25 |
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| sledges | pavi: urjaman: we are very sorry and hope you'd use docs in sdk qtcreator until we restore them asap | 11:57 |
| pavi | sledges, its ok . Infact leszek was asking more about it than me | 11:57 |
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| pavi | sledges, It was very nice meeting and talking to you at FOSDEM , I really couldn't remember your name. I wanted to mention you on Diaspora . You have an account right ? I saw you dropping by at Diaspora stall | 11:59 |
| sledges | leszek: sdk docs not up to date/incomplete? | 11:59 |
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| sledges | pavi: was nice meeting u2! good joirney back? | 12:01 |
| pavi | sledges and SK_work I need to share a cool story of my return back journey | 12:01 |
| leszek | sledges: the webview documentation shows the one from qtquick 1.0 and I don't seem to find the documentation for clipboard. (But as the clipboard never really worked for me reliably I stopped hacking on it alltogether currently) | 12:03 |
| pavi | It was on a Deutsche bahn bus and guess what I met a guy who was using iceweasel browser on gnome 3 and I immediately guessed him to use debian | 12:03 |
| sledges | 8) | 12:03 |
| leszek | :) | 12:03 |
| pavi | sledges, SK_work so that debian guy was at FOSDEM actually listening to the Jolla talk . So we went on talking I showed him Jolla the root shell and the cool things we could do | 12:04 |
| pavi | He has already ordered his jolla after returning back :) yay ! | 12:04 |
| sledges | \o/ great promo pavi ! | 12:04 |
| pavi | sledges, and guess what my phone had an issue with the UI and two or 3 things didn't work it had bugs . But he was pragmatic and we were looking at journald logs :D | 12:05 |
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| locusf | yeah I referred Jolla to a new friend from FOSDEM as well :) | 12:25 |
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| pavi | locusf, great , it really makes me happy when someone whom we refer Jolla to has actually ordered it :) | 12:27 |
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| rubdos | locusf, did you count the amount of Jolla's on FOSDEM? | 12:41 |
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| rubdos | I had a sort of competition with my friend-jolla-owner; count as much as possible Jollas. We stopped counting as it was over 9000 :P | 12:42 |
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| pavi | 9000 ? stop kidding :D | 12:44 |
| tbr | meme detected | 12:44 |
| locusf | rubdos: lol | 12:44 |
| tbr | IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAND! | 12:44 |
| locusf | rubdos: I saw more plenty of Jollas than in Kuopio | 12:44 |
| locusf | in here just 4, 3 I own and some other dude at the uni with Jolla | 12:45 |
| rubdos | lol | 12:45 |
| rubdos | I had seen two in my whole life, up till I invited tigert from the flightgear community to my home for fosdem. That was three. From there on, it increased to about 50 or so :P | 12:46 |
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| SK_work | in the company there are two :) | 12:48 |
| SK_work | soon 3 | 12:48 |
| SK_work | as the other jolla owned is also a friend, when he comes to my place, he always take gf's Jolla as his | 12:49 |
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| Nippybrit | are yolla tablets already being shipped? | 13:28 |
| tbr | no | 13:28 |
| tbr | IIRC it said May | 13:28 |
| leinir | how come? :) | 13:28 |
| * urjaman thinks yolla would've been a fun name ... | 13:29 | |
| Nippybrit | oops :P | 13:30 |
| Nippybrit | it's pronounced like an English Y though, right? | 13:30 |
| Nippybrit | Jolla | 13:30 |
| leinir | Yes :) | 13:30 |
| Nippybrit | I'm so tempted to order one | 13:30 |
| leinir | or, more to the point, it's pronounced with an everywhere-but-English j ;) | 13:30 |
| Nippybrit | ssh :P | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | the yolo tablet | 13:31 |
| Nippybrit | romanised Japanese uses Y for the same sound as in English! | 13:31 |
| Nippybrit | not sure that counts.. lol | 13:31 |
| coderus | Ёлла | 13:31 |
| Nippybrit | what is russian Y/J? | 13:32 |
| coderus | Ё for Ёлка | 13:32 |
| Nippybrit | oh ok | 13:33 |
| Nippybrit | I'll assume that doesn't sound like "Enna" then :P | 13:33 |
| Nippybrit | "Enka" even, in the second word x.x | 13:33 |
| coderus | Л for лук | 13:34 |
| Yaniel | Nippybrit: mostly because all romanization schemes are based on english I guess | 13:34 |
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| Nippybrit | is Y more of a vowel sound in most languages? | 13:36 |
| Nippybrit | I think it was in Finnish.. | 13:36 |
| Nippybrit | like an "u" | 13:36 |
| Nippybrit | anyway! did many of you order a jolla? | 13:37 |
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| Kray | semantically j should be actually written as ü in finnish | 13:37 |
| Kray | to be consistent with a-a and o-ö | 13:37 |
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| tbr | you mean Y not J | 13:37 |
| Kray | *a-ä | 13:37 |
| Kray | yeah sorry, y | 13:37 |
| Kray | like estonian does | 13:38 |
| tbr | or german | 13:38 |
| coderus | did many of us no not ordered/owned Jolla? | 13:39 |
| tbr | also funny way to confuse and weird out finns: transliterate äöü into ae oe ue | 13:39 |
| joonahoi | i like the way some text based web browsers do it | 13:41 |
| joonahoi | a: o: etc | 13:42 |
| FireFly | Too bad overstriking doesn't work in modern terminals | 13:42 |
| ln- | there are no modern terminals, only software that emulates terminals. | 13:43 |
| FireFly | on line printers you could do a<BS>" o<BS>" c<BS>, a<BS>` etc | 13:43 |
| FireFly | Well, modern terminal emulators rather | 13:43 |
| FireFly | Sloppy usage, FireFly-- | 13:43 |
| Nippybrit | sorry I provoked the topic x.x | 13:43 |
| FireFly | Why? :p it's a fun topic | 13:44 |
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| Nippybrit | haha | 13:44 |
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| Nippybrit | I'm just happy if things print UTF8 text properly | 13:44 |
| * coderus likes ё | 13:45 | |
| Nippybrit | それでどの言語でも表示出来ることを意味するから！ | 13:45 |
| coderus | holly manga! | 13:45 |
| situ | Where is the latest Silica doc ? https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/index.html seems dead. | 13:46 |
| coderus | situ: RTFRN | 13:47 |
| coderus | * read this full release notes | 13:47 |
| coderus | docs was killed "because qtc now have docs inside" | 13:47 |
| coderus | thsts silly and i dislikes that also | 13:47 |
| FireFly | :< | 13:47 |
| tbr | you can always just archive.org ;) | 13:48 |
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| situ | tbr: or google cache ;) | 13:48 |
| FireFly | Not very reliable long-term :P | 13:48 |
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| coderus | or just open qtc :o | 13:51 |
| Nippybrit | so, no jolly jolla owner-to-be people? :< | 13:52 |
| urjaman | i already have one | 13:52 |
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| Nippybrit | :o | 13:52 |
| urjaman | i didnt react because like if everybody did, it'd be a flood here. | 13:52 |
| urjaman | a phone that is | 13:53 |
| urjaman | not the tablet you asked about first, sorry if you meant that | 13:53 |
| Nippybrit | could I download and flash it to a nexus 4 for example? | 13:53 |
| Nicd- | you can install sailfish on a nexus 4, yes | 13:54 |
| Nicd- | here's the device support matrix: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 13:54 |
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| jaacoppi | I've ordered a Jolla Phone last week, hopefully arrives in mail this week. Do I count as a jolly jolla owner-to-be? | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | woop | 14:18 |
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| sledges | pavi: which ui bugs ooi? ;) | 14:47 |
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| coderus | interesting, i can't get clipboard with QGuiApplication::clipboard()->text() | 15:23 |
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| coderus | setitngs clipboard seems ok | 15:27 |
| Wnt | coderus: could it be related to the two clipboard there are on many linux systems? ctrl + c / v and the selection / middle click clipboard | 15:32 |
| Wnt | fingerterm can copy and paste properly to the clipboard and is open source. How does it do copy pasting? | 15:33 |
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| BearT | Just out of curiosity: anyone @fosdem managed to connect the Jolla to fosdem network? I simply switched to fosdem-legacy, but now I want to know, if I could have changed a setting to make ipv6 only networks work. | 15:38 |
| pavi | BearT, I was able to connect to Normal account | 15:41 |
| pavi | not the legacy one but it went on disconnecting like crazy | 15:41 |
| pavi | Never seen such an unreliable network in my life | 15:42 |
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| Wnt | oh, fingerterm also uses QGuiApplication::clipboard()->text() https://github.com/nemomobile/fingerterm/blob/master/terminal.cpp#L1173 | 15:44 |
| BearT | pavi, i should have made clear that i could connect to v6 only but i got a link local ipv4 address and could not connect to any websites. when i switched to dual stack everything was working as expected (and i have to say, relatively fast and stable for such a big conference) | 15:44 |
| pavi | BearT, ahh ok . | 15:45 |
| BearT | pavi, possibly the link local ipv4 was the cause of your connection problems. i just remember a short problem at sunday morning in the K building and of course at the closing talk when janson was crowded with people. but i guess that's normal | 15:49 |
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| pavi | sledges, It was something to do with the sailme app . I even showed the person who developed it netvandal . I remember another app was also not so stable in UI , I dunno why but today as I check it , its not there | 16:44 |
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| anandrkris | Hi Folks - Anyone running update 11 already? | 16:49 |
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| Mikaela | probably not as it's trying to get next week | 16:52 |
| Mikaela | for early access I mean | 16:52 |
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| coderus | Wnt: i know everything, but it's sonehow not working :D | 16:55 |
| anandrkris | Mikaela: Oh..ok...i thought RC is out | 16:56 |
| anandrkris | BTW, have been consolidating a list of update 10 regression issues..i presume someone from Jolla had a look at it for update 11 :) | 16:56 |
| anandrkris | * in TJC | 16:56 |
| Mikaela | 2015-02-03.log:[17:43:32] <Aard> Mikaela: can't make promises, the latest glibc issue screwed with our release plans a bit as it requires big rebuilds. I'm hoping that we can make the opt-in variant available next week, but don't yell at me if it does not happen | 16:56 |
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| coderus | Wnt: paste in terminal not working also :D | 16:58 |
| coderus | :D:D | 16:58 |
| coderus | QClipboard broken! :D | 16:59 |
| anandrkris | thanks for the details... | 16:59 |
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| jaacoppi | in tjc, how to mark question as answered and is there a karma limit? | 17:09 |
| Sailor7009 | Hello guys | 17:09 |
| coderus | jaacoppi: give a link | 17:10 |
| coderus | we will help | 17:11 |
| Sailor7009 | I'm using android viber in my Jolla, but it works only with 3G, it doesn't accept Wi-Fi | 17:11 |
| Sailor7009 | can somebody tell me what's going on? | 17:11 |
| jaacoppi | coderus: teach me to fish please,I want to learn how, not for you to do it | 17:13 |
| anandrkris | jaacoppi: i think, there is a limit do not recall how much... | 17:14 |
| anandrkris | i remember for editing a wiki, minimum 75 points... | 17:14 |
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| jaacoppi | the list that has all the other limits doesn't say anything about it | 17:17 |
| coderus | chem|st: ping | 17:17 |
| coderus | about extref | 17:18 |
| coderus | how much it hurts? | 17:18 |
| anandrkris | jaacoppi: can you see a tick mark against the answer? | 17:19 |
| anandrkris | only one answer can be accepted btw | 17:19 |
| pavi | anandrkris, Hi I am pavi bugging your list of issues for should I upgrade ? | 17:21 |
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| anandrkris | it isn't as bad as you see in the list | 17:21 |
| pavi | anandrkris, Yeah thats what I wrote the latest comment for , probably divide the list into blocking ones and non blocking ones | 17:22 |
| anandrkris | clipboard update issue which i faced is not common | 17:23 |
| pavi | For example Debian testing while never get released unless the blocking bugs are finished | 17:23 |
| anandrkris | again mobile data getting disabled happens to me without any good reason | 17:23 |
| jaacoppi | anandrkris: found it. It says I'm not a moderator so I gyess tgere's a karma limit | 17:24 |
| anandrkris | i think you can go for it since anyways we have another update not so far :) | 17:24 |
| anandrkris | pavi: we should probably move discussion to jollamobile..this is for devs | 17:25 |
| pavi | Wow is this discussion off topic for sailfish os ? We are talking about sailfish os issues ? How come devs dont get this discussion ? | 17:25 |
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| * pavi is very confused | 17:26 | |
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| anandrkris | This is more on coding i thought...idk...am just another user | 17:27 |
| anandrkris | "For friendly Jolla mobile device community: #jollamobile" >> Topic | 17:28 |
| pavi | anandrkris, we are actually right on topic , dont worry. Discussion about bugs is the best thing that can happen in this channel . If you have issues with mobile phone and jolla probably that can happen there | 17:29 |
| anandrkris | fine, if you say so...have usually seen tech. discussions here - Qt..Silica..nemo...etc | 17:30 |
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| anandrkris | anyways, you can go through the list... | 17:30 |
| anandrkris | sharing from one android app to another is important to me...i use it share from Quora to whatsapp | 17:30 |
| anandrkris | but it may not be used by you... | 17:31 |
| coderus | okay until we have own development questions on topic :D | 17:31 |
| anandrkris | coderus: :D | 17:32 |
| pavi | Nopes I dont use the android apps much | 17:32 |
| anandrkris | again Mobile data grayed out issue could be due to my network operator...it usually works after n/w restart..or flight mode enable / disable | 17:33 |
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| anandrkris | tl;dr - i updated to 10 and don't have regrets now...although in the first week i saw some random crashes / reboots | 17:34 |
| anandrkris | that frustrated me.. | 17:34 |
| anandrkris | and you can join the majority and report any issues you find ;-) | 17:35 |
| anandrkris | U10 solved one major browser issue for me...taps are properly calibrated now..earlier it was offset | 17:36 |
| anandrkris | gtg..bed time for me here (India)... | 17:37 |
| anandrkris | ttyl.. | 17:37 |
| anandrkris | just in case someone was wondering we were discussing about U10 issues and whether to update or not | 17:37 |
| anandrkris | * https://together.jolla.com/question/74971/u10-vaarainjarvi-11127-pls-addlist-of-regression-issues/ | 17:38 |
| pavi | Bye anandrkris I think I will wait for update 11 . Update 10 was like something hurried up by devs for Xmas | 17:38 |
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| anandrkris | pavi: cool :) | 17:39 |
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| pavi | anandrkris, thanks a lot for maintaining the list | 17:39 |
| pavi | ahh he is gone :( | 17:39 |
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| chem|st | coderus: pong | 18:41 |
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| coderus | chem|st: about extref in btrfs | 18:49 |
| coderus | what it caused? | 18:49 |
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| chem|st | coderus: they updated the btrfs module it seems, as when I formatted it there was no problem and I never had a problem, after second tiem someone tried to make me aware of it I tested it again and had the same problem | 18:55 |
| chem|st | I did all steps on my jolla | 18:56 |
| chem|st | or the btrfs mkfs tools | 18:56 |
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| DarkSim | Anyone who owns a Jolla phone, what is your battery time? | 19:01 |
| benna86 | hallo! does anyone know where the silica reference is gone? Since they updated the website I cannot find it anymore | 19:01 |
| benna86 | DarkSim, with data disabled it lasts 3 days | 19:02 |
| DarkSim | That's pretty damn good :O | 19:03 |
| DarkSim | I'm happy if I can make it one day with my Nexus 5 :P | 19:03 |
| benna86 | I must say i don't use it too much :) | 19:03 |
| benna86 | it is mostly in standby | 19:04 |
| DarkSim | I guess I wouldn't last that long though | 19:04 |
| benna86 | more than 1 day for sure | 19:05 |
| coderus | chem|st: so, if i have sdcard formatted with last command? | 19:05 |
| cryorat | DarkSim, thats what she said | 19:06 |
| cryorat | btw i can reach almost a week with light use, but 3G, and wifi are always on | 19:07 |
| DarkSim | cryorat: I was just playing games and she overheated, not my fault :O | 19:07 |
| DarkSim | With such a small battery that seems like quite an accomplishment though | 19:07 |
| cryorat | hell yeah | 19:07 |
| cryorat | did you know miguel de icaza? | 19:08 |
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| benna86 | so no-one knows where the silica reference is gone? | 19:09 |
| coderus | benna86: everybody knows | 19:12 |
| coderus | it moved to qtc | 19:12 |
| coderus | check release notes | 19:12 |
| coderus | nobody is reading release notes, right? | 19:12 |
| cryorat | what is release notes? :) | 19:13 |
| kimmoli | we really need FAQBOT here... | 19:14 |
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| cryorat | kimmoli, release notes is a FAQ? I... I, I just tried to be funny. :( | 19:20 |
| * cryorat is a sad panda | 19:20 | |
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| benna86 | coderus, sdk release notes? https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/sdk-release-notes/ I don't see anything about reference manual | 19:25 |
| DarkSim | I | 19:29 |
| DarkSim | Ooops, I am tempted to dive into Sailfish but I'm also very unsure if I will like it :P | 19:29 |
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| r0kk3rz | DarkSim: you will | 19:36 |
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| r0kk3rz | because its awesome | 19:36 |
| DarkSim | So many questions! | 19:36 |
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| coderus | updated site release notes :D | 19:38 |
| coderus | not sdk | 19:38 |
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| Juice__ | I think everybody is asking this, but here goes again: where is the Sailfish Silica Reference? | 19:59 |
| TemeV | Juice__: not sure if kidding, but here goes again. In the SDK | 20:00 |
| Juice__ | TemeV: thanks, I just haven't used to use IDE help, always Google | 20:04 |
| Juice__ | maybe it is time to learn | 20:04 |
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| TemeV | well, if you want to read it in browser you can find them in the waybackmachine | 20:05 |
| TemeV | :) | 20:05 |
| Juice__ | well, IDE help is also offline so maybe it is better | 20:05 |
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| kimmoli | hmm.. the mersdk webserver could host them too. could access 127.0.0.1:8080/reference... | 20:08 |
| kimmoli | annoying when sdk has too many panes, and actual editor window gets smaller and smaller | 20:09 |
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| TemeV | I think there was a way to detach the help | 20:10 |
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| coderus | 3~3~https://together.jolla.com/question/78890/official-announcement-sailfishosorg-site-renewal/ | 20:19 |
| coderus | Currently the SDK includes Tutorial, Design and API Documentation, and these are not available on the website. | 20:19 |
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| pketolai_ | http://qt-project.org/doc/qtcreator-2.8/creator-help.html#detaching-the-help-window | 20:20 |
| kimmoli | tnx | 20:25 |
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| * Nokius_ lets see may my nemo tag is at lost and found :-/ | 20:48 | |
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| * satmd is looking forward to the bigger tablet | 20:52 | |
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