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| Thaodan | Hey I have have a question: Ophono postet this in journalctl: Call 1 ended with RIL cause 65535 | 00:30 |
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: do you want to guess what i am up to? :P | 06:48 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 07:19 |
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| muppis | tigeli, I noticed that. | 08:13 |
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| muppis | raa700, why not? Quite annoying to have two places where sounds can be adjusted and othe doesn't have effect at all, if favorited ambience and doesn't remember it. | 08:14 |
| muppis | *other | 08:14 |
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| stephg | morning guys | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | morning stephg | 08:36 |
| stephg | o/ | 08:37 |
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| tortoisedoc | herrherr | 10:24 |
| tortoisedoc | kontio : ping | 10:24 |
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| netvandal | Hi all, i just updated the sdk, and i run into a problem. I had to make a new kit in build and run, but i can't chose the mer target | 10:42 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: mmapping or hunspelling or ngramming? | 10:44 |
| saidinesh5 | lol | 10:45 |
| saidinesh5 | option 2 | 10:45 |
| saidinesh5 | we cant go ahead with mmapping for BKtrees unless we have a decent enough editDistance funciton | 10:45 |
| saidinesh5 | hunspelling is a mixed bag so far for me though..... | 10:46 |
| saidinesh5 | it works well when it works | 10:46 |
| saidinesh5 | when it doesnt..... you cant do much about it... | 10:46 |
| saidinesh5 | except add another dictionary of errors to "remap" the correct suggestions..... | 10:46 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: which one do you have more faith on? ngramming or simhashing?/ | 10:48 |
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| saidinesh5 | (the hunspell matcher is almost done.... will be done by tonight) | 10:48 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: simhashing + bktrees? | 10:48 |
| saidinesh5 | umm.... | 10:49 |
| saidinesh5 | i doubt if that would work...... | 10:49 |
| saidinesh5 | does sim hashing maintain traingle inequality? | 10:49 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: without thinking too hard about it (because that hurts) I think so | 11:26 |
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| Stskeeps | https://blog.jolla.com/crowdsourcing-producing-something-love/ | 11:49 |
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| SK_work | cool | 11:52 |
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| King_DuckZ | hello, sometimes from the settings screen the internet connection option is grayed out I can't enable it, even though I never disabled it, and the only workaround I found is going into flight mode and back | 12:12 |
| King_DuckZ | why is that happening? | 12:12 |
| King_DuckZ | the only recent changes I can think of are the system update and me installing the situations app, though I don't start it anymore because it drains my battery | 12:13 |
| sandsmark | I've had that issue as well, but I had to reboot to get it back | 12:17 |
| sandsmark | (and I don't have the situations app) | 12:18 |
| Armadillo | maybe network restart from sailfish utilities helps? | 12:20 |
| sandsmark | bah, forgot to try that | 12:21 |
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| King_DuckZ | I can try, I have it installed | 12:28 |
| King_DuckZ | internet button is enabled and clickable again | 12:29 |
| Armadillo | :) | 12:29 |
| kontio | tortoisedoc: pong | 12:30 |
| King_DuckZ | that's probably a bit quicker than going into flight mode (wait 5 secs), but how do I fix the problem so that it doesn't happen anymore? | 12:30 |
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| tortoisedoc | kontio : I am having a funny situation with rom folder | 12:35 |
| tortoisedoc | my proj has two subprojects | 12:36 |
| tortoisedoc | (A, B) | 12:36 |
| kontio | you mean rpm folder? | 12:36 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: also with hashing isnt the ideal data structure some kind of vector? | 12:38 |
| saidinesh5 | i mean just pick the nearest entries to the current index from the vector | 12:38 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: the hashing is just to get a similiarity comparison that's faster than edit distance | 12:39 |
| sandsmark | now it's just hash + xor + bitcount | 12:39 |
| sandsmark | and the bitcount can be a lookup table | 12:39 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm.... | 12:39 |
| sandsmark | so O(1) basically | 12:40 |
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| saidinesh5 | it would be O(1) if we have values arranged in a vector isnt it? | 12:40 |
| sandsmark | or n if n is the length of the word, but that's negligible | 12:40 |
| tortoisedoc | kontio : yes | 12:40 |
| sandsmark | well, I don't know how you would do it in a vector | 12:40 |
| tortoisedoc | kontio : out of subprojects a, b b is the one who is ending up in the rpm | 12:41 |
| saidinesh5 | sort based on hash values | 12:41 |
| sandsmark | but yeah, O(log n) probably | 12:41 |
| saidinesh5 | and blindly store it in a vector | 12:41 |
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| tortoisedoc | (and hence the rpm folder is located in <root>\b\rpm | 12:41 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: but you need to search based on difference between the hashes | 12:41 |
| tortoisedoc | ) | 12:41 |
| tortoisedoc | for some reason | 12:41 |
| sandsmark | the hash values by themselves can't be used | 12:41 |
| saidinesh5 | as long as you are looking at "nearest" | 12:41 |
| tortoisedoc | the SDK does not build rpm with the latest version anymore | 12:41 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah | 12:41 |
| saidinesh5 | just sorted based on hash values should work doesnt it? | 12:41 |
| sandsmark | no | 12:41 |
| tortoisedoc | its looking for the rpm folder in <root>\rpm | 12:41 |
| saidinesh5 | why not? | 12:41 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: how would you do that? | 12:41 |
| sandsmark | then you would need to compare every single hash against the current one | 12:42 |
| sandsmark | to find the one with the lowest diff | 12:42 |
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| saidinesh5 | hmm? no no | 12:42 |
| tortoisedoc | kontio : is there a way to enable debug to know which yaml file is being used? | 12:42 |
| tortoisedoc | (when building rpm I mean) | 12:42 |
| saidinesh5 | assume that you have a vector of values which are sorted based on their hash | 12:42 |
| saidinesh5 | whenever you need to search for a word | 12:43 |
| saidinesh5 | compute it's has and kind of binary search on that vector | 12:43 |
| saidinesh5 | *hash | 12:43 |
| sandsmark | ?? | 12:43 |
| sandsmark | but what you want is the lowest bit difference | 12:43 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm....... | 12:43 |
| sandsmark | so you need to diff each hash against your current hash | 12:43 |
| saidinesh5 | ah for lowest bit difference | 12:43 |
| saidinesh5 | i guess | 12:44 |
| sandsmark | I think it should be possible to do something like a burger king tree for this as well | 12:44 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah | 12:44 |
| sandsmark | and then we should patent it :p | 12:44 |
| saidinesh5 | lol | 12:44 |
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| sandsmark | a Dinesh-Martin tree | 12:44 |
| saidinesh5 | :D | 12:44 |
| sandsmark | or Manajipet-Sandsmark, they usually use the last names | 12:45 |
| saidinesh5 | lol | 12:45 |
| kontio | tortoisedoc: do you have the code somewhere public? so I can look and it and make sure I understand you correct :) I'm not aware of a way to enable debugging for that part | 12:45 |
| tortoisedoc | kontio : unfortunately not | 12:46 |
| tortoisedoc | kontio : but I can probably setup some test project | 12:46 |
| tortoisedoc | kontio : not now tho | 12:46 |
| kontio | tortoisedoc: so subproject you call what has it's own .pro file? | 12:46 |
| kontio | tortoisedoc: and in <root>/foo.pro you include the a/a.pro and b/b.pro, and you have a <root>/rpm/foo.yaml and <root>/rpm/foo.spec file, but in in the RPMS folder just binaries from b/b.pro project end up in the .rpm file? | 12:48 |
| kontio | and the RPMS folder is in <root>/b/ ? | 12:48 |
| tortoisedoc | kontio : almost | 12:48 |
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| tortoisedoc | in <root>/foo.pro i have a/a.pro and b/b.pro; b is the project which should end up in the rpm, hence the yaml file is in <root>\b\rpm\ | 12:49 |
| saidinesh5 | okay after this hunspell matcher, simhashing comes next... | 12:50 |
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| saidinesh5 | although tempted to do the android dictionary first | 12:51 |
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| saidinesh5 | grrr qmake | 13:00 |
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| saidinesh5 | doesnt qmake pass CONFIG+=something options to subfolders? | 13:05 |
| saidinesh5 | subdirs i mean... | 13:05 |
| sandsmark | qmake -r? | 13:06 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah | 13:08 |
| saidinesh5 | nah i was typing the CONFIG+= in the application's run arguments instead of | 13:13 |
| saidinesh5 | qmake's arguments :P | 13:13 |
| sandsmark | hah, ok | 13:15 |
| saidinesh5 | btw. i was also looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitap_algorithm | 13:15 |
| saidinesh5 | seems interesting... | 13:15 |
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| sandsmark | hmm | 13:23 |
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| sandsmark | it's searching for substrings, though | 13:24 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah | 13:25 |
| saidinesh5 | but the search algorithm itself... | 13:25 |
| sandsmark | hmhm | 13:25 |
| saidinesh5 | the match i mean | 13:25 |
| sandsmark | ya | 13:25 |
| sandsmark | but brain tired | 13:26 |
| saidinesh5 | the thing is even if some el weirdo algorithm gives us like | 13:26 |
| sandsmark | it's friday | 13:26 |
| saidinesh5 | ~300-500 matches | 13:26 |
| saidinesh5 | we can happily editDistance them | 13:26 |
| sandsmark | suresure | 13:26 |
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| saidinesh5 | so this actually seems promising | 13:26 |
| poolson | hey is the SDK based on eclipse? | 13:27 |
| anandrkris | tigeli: Hi.. | 13:28 |
| Nicd- | poolson: no, Qt Creator | 13:29 |
| poolson | GOOD ! | 13:29 |
| poolson | :) | 13:29 |
| poolson | i hate eclipse | 13:29 |
| sandsmark | haha | 13:29 |
| poolson | i only found out about sailfish 5 mins ago | 13:29 |
| sandsmark | yeah, I'm pretty thankful for that as well | 13:29 |
| poolson | was looking up info on ubuntu touch .. same some multi rom thing | 13:29 |
| sandsmark | I don't understand why blackberry chose eclipse... | 13:29 |
| poolson | which in turn mentioned sailfish | 13:30 |
| sandsmark | poolson: well, the ubuntu stuff seems to be based in large parts on the sailfish stuff | 13:30 |
| sandsmark | like the libhybris work | 13:30 |
| poolson | sailfish goes ok on a nexus 4 ? | 13:30 |
| Nicd- | poolson: sailfish on different devices: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 13:31 |
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| sandsmark | seems to be pretty well-supported | 13:31 |
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| tigeli | anandrkris: hi | 13:32 |
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| anandrkris | Re Annoying pop up dialog, i had posted a possible option to implement..not sure if you had a chance to look at it.. | 13:32 |
| anandrkris | https://together.jolla.com/question/53124/option-to-disable-the-select-internet-connection-popup/?answer=66444#post-id-66444 | 13:32 |
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| anandrkris | i mean, the UI part...not a programmer here :-) | 13:33 |
| poolson | yeah if i dont care about bluetooth | 13:33 |
| poolson | which really ... i dont | 13:33 |
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| coderus | anandrkris: you can't show remorse on different (not yours) windows | 13:37 |
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| coderus | you can't show orphan remorse on top of windows | 13:37 |
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| anandrkris | oh..you mean like Android apps, for instance | 13:37 |
| coderus | no i dont mean like android | 13:38 |
| anandrkris | okies..have faced the pop up issue mostly in Android... | 13:39 |
| anandrkris | Hmm sad...i thought we could retain the existing selection dialog but show it after user prompting for it through remorse timer | 13:39 |
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| coderus | you cannot show remorse timer | 13:40 |
| coderus | because you have no window to show it on | 13:40 |
| coderus | "internet connection popup" is window, it's not just popup | 13:41 |
| coderus | and there are no popups in sailfishos | 13:41 |
| coderus | inside application ok | 13:41 |
| coderus | but not global topmost things | 13:41 |
| anandrkris | okies...get it | 13:42 |
| coderus | but actually you can probably display transparent window nad translate touch actions to lower levels | 13:43 |
| coderus | it might work | 13:44 |
| sandsmark | anandrkris: so basically you just want it to be smaller? | 13:45 |
| anandrkris | and mostly not an intrusive one | 13:45 |
| anandrkris | i should be able to ignore it... | 13:46 |
| sandsmark | so, smaller :p | 13:46 |
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| anandrkris | he he...currently i have to tap elsewhere for it to vanish | 13:47 |
| sandsmark | imho apps that keeps trying to connect when offline should be fixed, though | 13:47 |
| sandsmark | anandrkris: which apps keep pestering you for internet access? | 13:47 |
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| anandrkris | Subway surfer, for instance | 13:47 |
| Armadillo | sandsmark +1 | 13:47 |
| sandsmark | oh, android stuff | 13:47 |
| sandsmark | maybe the android stuff just shouldn't be allowed to show it... | 13:48 |
| sandsmark | or, trigger it | 13:48 |
| anandrkris | i gave it to a neighbor kid and she blamed the phone for losing the game | 13:48 |
| sandsmark | hah | 13:48 |
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| anandrkris | and she was right...i had to put it on flight mode and gave her | 13:48 |
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| anandrkris | it should at least remember be per app / session and not prompt again... | 13:49 |
| sandsmark | meh | 13:50 |
| sandsmark | why? | 13:50 |
| sandsmark | I might not want to go online now, but I might want to go online in a bit | 13:50 |
| anandrkris | right...along with mobile data, wlan, another option 'dont prompt again' | 13:51 |
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| sandsmark | hmm | 13:51 |
| anandrkris | if user selects that then do not show..explicitly stated by user | 13:52 |
| sandsmark | but then it sounds like it could get pretty cramped | 13:52 |
| anandrkris | yeah | 13:52 |
| anandrkris | https://together.jolla.com/question/53124/option-to-disable-the-select-internet-connection-popup/ | 13:53 |
| * anandrkris reading it for better ideas | 13:53 | |
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| anandrkris | if user wants to enable network, (s)he will simply do it from settings... | 13:54 |
| anandrkris | seems to be one line of thought :-) | 13:55 |
| sandsmark | well, people that like the popup (like me) obviously don't complain | 13:56 |
| sandsmark | but it could probably be improved... | 13:56 |
| anandrkris | yes my first impression was that - it is helpful | 13:56 |
| anandrkris | imagine a case of roaming and i want to play game while on travel | 13:57 |
| sandsmark | I don't want to go into the settings just to connect to a wlan | 13:57 |
| anandrkris | agree...then let a setting define that... | 13:57 |
| sandsmark | I think the best would to just make it smaller, tbh. | 13:58 |
| sandsmark | so it isn't very intrusive | 13:58 |
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| anandrkris | 1. Always ask - works as now, default 2.Never ask - popup never shows up 3.Only once ask | 13:58 |
| anandrkris | nopes...the problem is with frequency... | 13:58 |
| Armadillo | but how is "once" defined? | 13:59 |
| anandrkris | 4. Timed (Dont prompt for x minutes) | 13:59 |
| anandrkris | per application in a session... | 13:59 |
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| anandrkris | the thread has lot of ideas actually... | 14:00 |
| anandrkris | Only once ask - popup shows up only when a process first time asks for internet connection. | 14:00 |
| anandrkris | If user refuses to connect the popup do not shows up for that process again. | 14:00 |
| sandsmark | yeah, that makes sense | 14:01 |
| Armadillo | sou you save a timestamp for each app request to get connection and if let_#s say 30 minutes are over (could also be configurable) the popup may popup again? :) | 14:01 |
| Armadillo | *let's | 14:01 |
| sandsmark | I wonder were the code for this is | 14:01 |
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| anandrkris | :-) | 14:02 |
| anandrkris | My idea is best so far...but you need to construct a new class - remorse timer window ;-) | 14:03 |
| anandrkris | Just this one window and you could retain existing functionality as-is | 14:04 |
| * anandrkris Working on my persuasive and negotiation skills :-) | 14:04 | |
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| daitheflu | OMG, I've done something that actually works with C++ and QML \o/ | 14:12 |
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| daitheflu | sorry had to share | 14:12 |
| kimmoli | good work daitheflu :) | 14:13 |
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| daitheflu | thanks kimmoli :) | 14:13 |
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: could you test out the HunspellMatcher? | 14:48 |
| saidinesh5 | i ve just pushed it.. | 14:48 |
| saidinesh5 | it generates the hunspell dictionaries from the current wordList | 14:48 |
| sandsmark | I'll do it when I get home from work :) | 14:49 |
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| saidinesh5 | Ah sure | 14:52 |
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| saidinesh5 | i thiiiiiink we can improve the precision by adding a list of commonly mistaken words... | 14:56 |
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| sandsmark | hmm | 15:07 |
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| Stskeeps | https://blog.jolla.com/hacknplay-20150109/ | 18:11 |
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| tbr | Stskeeps: nice | 18:24 |
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| r0kk3rz | so many links | 18:28 |
| r0kk3rz | although I've spotted a few that I linked here :P | 18:30 |
| r0kk3rz | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/lg-puts-webos-on-a-smartwatch-set-to-launch-in-2016/ | 18:30 |
| r0kk3rz | interesting that LG might be reviving webos further than just smarttvs | 18:31 |
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| kimmoli | nice display-size range they will then have | 18:52 |
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| Stskeeps | is it awkward to link to 'competitors', or does it help understand the full landscape? | 18:59 |
| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps: in the context of a blog post i think thats fine | 18:59 |
| r0kk3rz | you guys should be keeping an eye on the movers and shakers in the mobile industry | 19:00 |
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| r0kk3rz | of course you're going to find some stuff you think is cool | 19:00 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | kontio : ping | 19:20 |
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| kimmoli | :-1: error: Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. The remote host closed the connection | 19:28 |
| kimmoli | ^that still happens with newest sdk | 19:28 |
| kimmoli | damn | 19:28 |
| Nokius_ | coderus: ? | 19:31 |
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| r0kk3rz | kimmoli: im sure its got to be something about the sdk not closing connections properly | 19:52 |
| kimmoli | it can drop connection in middle of compile | 19:53 |
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| qt_junkie | I was planning to update sdk today, not sure any more :) | 21:08 |
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| sandsmark | kimmoli: try increasing the timeout? | 21:17 |
| sandsmark | kimmoli: our launch the VM in the virtualbox ui | 21:17 |
| sandsmark | and see what it does | 21:18 |
| kimmoli | iirc vm gets stuck, i can restart it through sdk. can't access via ssh either | 21:19 |
| sandsmark | ah | 21:19 |
| sandsmark | well, try running it in the normal VBox UI, and run top or tail -f /var/log/dmesg or something | 21:20 |
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| kimmoli | have to check, it occurs maybe every 20th build | 21:22 |
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| sandsmark | kk | 21:27 |
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| kimmoli | r0kk3rz: you might be correct. every deploy leaves 3 connections open | 22:03 |
| r0kk3rz | i always thought it was suspicious that it kills ssh | 22:04 |
| r0kk3rz | like it hits a connection limit or something | 22:04 |
| kimmoli | defaul maxsessions should be 10 | 22:06 |
| kimmoli | but it starts per-connection daemon. öm | 22:07 |
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| r0kk3rz | could it be the debug connection to your jolla | 22:07 |
| r0kk3rz | that its leaving open | 22:08 |
| Yaniel | on deploy? | 22:08 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 22:09 |
| kimmoli | not using jolla here, just build+deploy as rpm | 22:09 |
| kimmoli | Just pasted a lot, see here http://pastebin.com/0K20TMxc | 22:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | oh right, not that then | 22:10 |
| kimmoli | Just pasted a lot, see here http://pastebin.com/3DrKCUFv | 22:10 |
| kimmoli | when i close qtcreator, it closes only one session, session number was kinda small | 22:13 |
| kimmoli | yeah it opens one connection qtcreator<>vm when you start creator (vm running) | 22:15 |
| kimmoli | and that is closed when qtcreator closed | 22:15 |
| kimmoli | now if i kill that process for that connection from VM, creator says "Error connecting to "MerSDK" virtual machine: SSH conection with virtual machine "MerSDK" has been lost: 1 The remote host closed the connection" | 22:16 |
| kimmoli | but seems it survives that, no need to restart sdk | 22:16 |
| r0kk3rz | probably reopens connection on build | 22:17 |
| kimmoli | lets do some builds -repeatedly and see what happens | 22:17 |
| r0kk3rz | might be the web ui that it was complaining about | 22:18 |
| kimmoli | ? | 22:18 |
| kimmoli | it is on http | 22:19 |
| r0kk3rz | the sailfishos menu in qtc | 22:19 |
| kimmoli | 127.0.0.1:8080 | 22:19 |
| r0kk3rz | is http based from the vm | 22:19 |
| kimmoli | you can access it from browser (it is a bit faster) | 22:19 |
| kimmoli | and on browser, the rpm-validator-select-file remembers path | 22:19 |
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| kimmoli | i have now 35 established connections, and ps says there is 70 sshd instances running | 22:22 |
| kimmoli | *are (before someone corrects) | 22:22 |
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| kimmoli | ha | 22:26 |
| kimmoli | 64 | 22:27 |
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| kimmoli | it crashed in middle of build, before deploy | 22:27 |
| kimmoli | could not open new connection | 22:27 |
| kimmoli | my console ssh is open still | 22:28 |
| kimmoli | journal says Jan 09 22:27:44 SailfishSDK systemd[1]: sshd.socket: Too many incoming connections (64) | 22:28 |
| kimmoli | Jare: kontio ^ | 22:29 |
| kimmoli | so the bug is in C:\SailfishOS\bin\merssh.exe not closing connection | 22:30 |
| r0kk3rz | or not correctly reusing existing connections | 22:36 |
| r0kk3rz | either way, too many connections | 22:37 |
| kimmoli | yep. | 22:41 |
| kimmoli | if [ `sudo netstat -tnpa | grep ESTABLISHED | wc -l` -gt 20 ]; then sudo killall sshd; fi | 22:41 |
| kimmoli | i'll put that there running every 30mins | 22:41 |
| r0kk3rz | 30min, more like 5 | 22:42 |
| r0kk3rz | it is an if after all | 22:42 |
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| kimmoli | yeah but just to avoid chance it to hit in middle of build | 22:45 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah i suppose | 22:46 |
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| kimmoli | hmm, they are closed from windows side | 22:50 |
| r0kk3rz | windows bug? | 22:50 |
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| kimmoli | i can see them on sdk netstat, but not on windows | 22:51 |
| kimmoli | on windows side, they come and go during build | 22:51 |
| kimmoli | hmm oracle virtualbox changelog for 4.3.16 NAT Network: fixed inbound half-close on Windows hosts | 22:52 |
| kimmoli | maybe i update virtualbox | 22:53 |
| r0kk3rz | i updated vbox not that long ago | 22:53 |
| r0kk3rz | and i still get it | 22:53 |
| kimmoli | (released 2014-09-09) | 22:54 |
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| kimmoli | i have 4.3.2 | 22:54 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i updated december sometime | 22:54 |
| r0kk3rz | same | 22:54 |
| kimmoli | newest is 4.3.20 | 22:55 |
| r0kk3rz | sorry, 4.3.20 | 22:55 |
| r0kk3rz | but maybe they havent really fixed it | 22:55 |
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| Jare | kimmoli, r0kk3rz: check, i'll mark your findings down and get back to them later on. Thanks for preliminary debugging :) | 23:20 |
| kimmoli | ok | 23:20 |
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