| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: what are you working on? | 00:02 |
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| sandsmark | going to bed :3 | 00:02 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah cool | 00:02 |
| sandsmark | and you could make it templated, I guess? | 00:02 |
| sandsmark | not sure if that mapes sense, though | 00:02 |
| saidinesh5 | thats what i meant by allowing pointer types :P | 00:02 |
| sandsmark | bktrees are only useful for strings | 00:02 |
| saidinesh5 | sure but they do need to store *something* | 00:03 |
| saidinesh5 | some value too | 00:03 |
| saidinesh5 | otherwise just getting similar strings would do us no good.. | 00:03 |
| sandsmark | hmm? | 00:03 |
| saidinesh5 | or maybe it does... | 00:03 |
| sandsmark | the point of a bktree is to find similar strings | 00:03 |
| saidinesh5 | yes sure | 00:03 |
| saidinesh5 | but was saying | 00:03 |
| saidinesh5 | we need to maintain a mapping from swipeHints to words too | 00:03 |
| saidinesh5 | separately | 00:04 |
| saidinesh5 | in case we dont store anything in the BK tree | 00:04 |
| sandsmark | ah, hmm | 00:04 |
| saidinesh5 | which only means more memory usage | 00:04 |
| sandsmark | yeah, might make sense to store words with the swipehints in the tree... | 00:04 |
| saidinesh5 | which is okay i think | 00:04 |
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| saidinesh5 | umm nah | 00:04 |
| saidinesh5 | was thinking of more like indices to words/wordMetadata | 00:05 |
| saidinesh5 | because we have to reuse the same BKtree class for matching actual typed words | 00:05 |
| saidinesh5 | like one BKTree instance saves the actual dictionary | 00:06 |
| saidinesh5 | and one BKTree instance is a cache of the swipeHints | 00:06 |
| sandsmark | yeah | 00:07 |
| saidinesh5 | so i ll first abuse the BKTree a little on some swipeHint data | 00:10 |
| saidinesh5 | and then make it mmapable | 00:10 |
| saidinesh5 | cuz if it turns out that it is too slow..it'd be pointless | 00:11 |
| saidinesh5 | actually you know what | 00:12 |
| saidinesh5 | it stays | 00:12 |
| saidinesh5 | and replaces the bruteforcematcher | 00:12 |
| sandsmark | mkay | 00:13 |
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: the reason being just walking through 52000 words takes about 32millisecond | 00:16 |
| saidinesh5 | so with a few more rules like, checking if the characters are neighbours | 00:17 |
| saidinesh5 | or the wordlenghts differ drastically | 00:18 |
| saidinesh5 | i think we can bring down the number of nodes we compute edit distance for drastically | 00:18 |
| * saidinesh5 googles on how to make garlic bread | 00:19 | |
| sandsmark | :D | 00:21 |
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: looks like we need a new distance metric if we want to use BKtree for swipeHints | 02:17 |
| saidinesh5 | the only optimization i was able to apply so far was "if the wordlengths differ by search tolerance, dont bother computing the edit distance | 02:18 |
| saidinesh5 | and with that the average search time was like 3.5 seconds per word :| | 02:18 |
| saidinesh5 | and insertion takes 36 seconds :| | 02:20 |
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| saidinesh5 | we cant use the neighbours thing while searching directly because our tree was not built with such a metric as the distance | 02:23 |
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| saidinesh5 | one thing we can do is return early during the edit distance during searching if we differ more than the search threshold..... | 02:29 |
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| saidinesh5 | http://ntz-develop.blogspot.in/ | 03:00 |
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| lachs0r | not sure how relevant this is but I’m going to mention simhash here | 03:13 |
| lachs0r | although I think google owns a patent for pretty much this exact use case :/ | 03:13 |
| * saidinesh5 duck duck goes :P | 03:25 | |
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| saidinesh5 | hmm.. this looks a little like vector space model.. | 03:34 |
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| saidinesh5 | lachs0r: do you have any suggestions for fast fuzzy search on a dictionary? | 03:35 |
| lachs0r | well, I’ve used simhash for that before. years ago. out of boredom, so nothing actually useful ever came of it. | 03:36 |
| saidinesh5 | how well does it perform? | 03:36 |
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| lachs0r | all I remember is that using a 64-bit hash instead of 32-bit was nicer, but I don’t remember exact perf numbers | 03:37 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah | 03:38 |
| lachs0r | it was a naive C implementation, I think simhashing about 300k words did take a few seconds running on a 900 MHz low-power celeron m | 03:38 |
| saidinesh5 | O_O | 03:38 |
| saidinesh5 | well that still sounds not bad.... | 03:38 |
| saidinesh5 | i dont mind a day of preprocessign time either if i get the results in ~100-200ms :P | 03:39 |
| saidinesh5 | well an edit distance of around k=5 i think and an average word size of.. umm..... | 03:39 |
| * saidinesh5 checks | 03:39 | |
| lachs0r | for lookup, you could compute the binary binary distance and sort by that | 03:40 |
| lachs0r | ugh | 03:40 |
| lachs0r | binary hamming distance | 03:40 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm... | 03:40 |
| lachs0r | just a few extra instructions to the comparison really | 03:41 |
| lachs0r | you’re only ever comparing hashsize bits per entry | 03:41 |
| saidinesh5 | well if it is a sorted list of hashes i think it would be very nice | 03:42 |
| saidinesh5 | i dont mind a few false positives either because i can run a proper levenstein's distance on the results | 03:42 |
| saidinesh5 | my average word length is 28 here | 03:43 |
| lachs0r | man I remember almost nothing I did back then | 03:43 |
| saidinesh5 | heh | 03:43 |
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| saidinesh5 | my current plan is to make an edit distance metric taking into the distance between the keys into account | 03:45 |
| saidinesh5 | that should hopefully make BK trees still work | 03:45 |
| saidinesh5 | because the problem i see with hashing is that it can potentially miss out on the useful suggestions too | 03:45 |
| saidinesh5 | need to look up on hamming distance though | 03:46 |
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| saidinesh5 | weird.. my maxWordLength is 128.... | 03:48 |
| saidinesh5 | thats a lot more than i thought it was | 03:48 |
| lachs0r | hamming distance is basically a xor b, then count the 1s | 03:49 |
| saidinesh5 | O_O | 03:49 |
| lachs0r | so it’s for data of equal length | 03:49 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh | 03:49 |
| saidinesh5 | nope.. no equal length here | 03:49 |
| lachs0r | it works for simhash | 03:49 |
| saidinesh5 | but i m sure i can pad zeroes | 03:49 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm.... | 03:50 |
| lachs0r | I don’t think that’s going to work well in practice | 03:50 |
| saidinesh5 | oh | 03:50 |
| lachs0r | it’s not really useful for comparing strings, but if you have a hash with the required characteristics (i.e. slightly different values get only slightly different hashes, very different values get very different hashes) then it’s a different story | 03:51 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah | 03:52 |
| lachs0r | I have absolutely no idea how useful all this is for partial matching though. | 03:57 |
| lachs0r | probably not very. | 03:57 |
| lachs0r | it’d be more useful for e.g. spell checking or finding similar documents | 03:57 |
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| saidinesh5 | i kind of need it for spell checking itself | 03:57 |
| lachs0r | http://www.google.de/patents/US8661341 | 03:58 |
| lachs0r | :( | 03:58 |
| saidinesh5 | doesnt google have a patent pool that they wont sue from? | 03:59 |
| lachs0r | who knows | 03:59 |
| saidinesh5 | for fossy projects i mean | 03:59 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm.. | 03:59 |
| lachs0r | IANAL | 03:59 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm...... | 04:00 |
| lachs0r | simhash itself is patented too but there are so many implementations floating around and it’s used in so many places | 04:01 |
| lachs0r | I don’t think they’re going to sue anytime soon | 04:01 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah | 04:02 |
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| lachs0r | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locality_sensitive_hashing | 04:21 |
| lachs0r | whoever wrote that article had too much fun with *tex | 04:22 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm..... | 04:25 |
| lachs0r | I remember losing sleep reading a paper on one such algorithm years ago | 04:27 |
| lachs0r | then implementing it in like 40 lines of C | 04:27 |
| lachs0r | seriously, math people :| | 04:27 |
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| lachs0r | there is this world of clever algorithms people have invented that I have no access to because I cannot read mathspeak | 04:29 |
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| saidinesh5 | lol | 04:30 |
| lachs0r | sometimes I’m lucky enough to find some example code written in the worst matlab imaginable because these people are not programmers | 04:30 |
| lachs0r | most of it doesn’t actually work. | 04:31 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah.. weirdly i think they say the same thing about programmers lol | 04:31 |
| lachs0r | seems like it’s common for instructors to tell students not to share any code because it could be stolen | 04:31 |
| saidinesh5 | O_o | 04:31 |
| saidinesh5 | simhash based spell checker's patent got granted last year...... | 04:39 |
| saidinesh5 | was filed in 2011...... | 04:39 |
| lachs0r | you could always come up with your own LSH ;D | 04:42 |
| lachs0r | basically just replace simhash with another LSH and you’re good, I guess | 04:42 |
| saidinesh5 | hheh yup | 04:45 |
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| Olpe | kmmmoli: making my own timepicker dialog works like a charm. Took 5 min to implement (first thing i did this morning) | 06:01 |
| Olpe | i meant kimmoli | 06:01 |
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| kimmoli | Olpe: good | 07:04 |
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| Olpe | kimmoli: update available in openrepos. Wanna give it a try? | 08:19 |
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| kimmoli | Olpe: will check later today | 08:20 |
| Olpe | ok thx | 08:20 |
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| kimmoli | Olpe: checked briefly. cant start timer, says error. saving hours doesnt save them | 08:28 |
| kimmoli | Olpe: haven't tested any earlier version | 08:28 |
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| Olpe | i think you should :) kimmoli | 08:31 |
| kimmoli | https://app.younited.com/?shareObject=b110eb22-43b6-00ba-baea-2faf7a162bb6 | 08:34 |
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| kimmoli | Olpe: it has created only a empty sqlite db | 08:41 |
| Olpe | oh shit | 08:42 |
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| sandsmark | saidinesh5: what the fuck have you done :D | 08:51 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: I'll take a look later | 08:51 |
| sandsmark | simhash was pretty simple and cool | 08:52 |
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| daitheflu | hi ! | 09:42 |
| sandsmark | hello! | 09:43 |
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| daitheflu | is it OK to use QStandardPaths::DataLocation to store a sqlite db ? | 10:11 |
| Nicd- | daitheflu: for settings? | 10:12 |
| daitheflu | Nicd-: nope, for data :) | 10:12 |
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| Armadillo | is it possible to fill a Slider with several values from an array instead to use the stepsize? | 10:26 |
| m4g0g | what package manager used in sailfish? | 10:28 |
| Yaniel | packagekit | 10:30 |
| Yaniel | pkcon is the cli tool | 10:30 |
| m4g0g | ok | 10:31 |
| m4g0g | jolla has sociald 0.1.7 version, but github has only 0.1.4 | 10:32 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: check tags | 10:33 |
| SK_work | does github have tag 0.1.7 | 10:33 |
| sandsmark | jolla or nemo? | 10:33 |
| SK_work | because the spec means nothing, as version is generated from tag | 10:33 |
| SK_work | git tag that is | 10:33 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: https://github.com/nemomobile/buteo-sync-plugins-social/releases/tag/0.1.7 | 10:34 |
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| m4g0g | SK_work: argh. Thx | 10:45 |
| m4g0g | writing code for picasa much easier than make it work in jolla's environment | 10:47 |
| kimmoli | oo, are we getting picasa shareplugin? | 10:47 |
| m4g0g | If I can integrate it with accounts ui - yes | 10:47 |
| m4g0g | c++ code are ready | 10:48 |
| m4g0g | kimmoli: but no share plugin. First of all - sync plugin as facebook images, after that, I hope, share plugin | 10:48 |
| kimmoli | ok | 10:49 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: did you managed having something working ? | 10:49 |
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| m4g0g | kimmoli: i have libsocialcache with working google images test. I have google images plugin for buteo, which should working, because I used code from my working picasa plugin for Leechcraft | 10:54 |
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| m4g0g | SK_work: was to you ^^ | 10:55 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: did you tested syncing images ? | 10:55 |
| m4g0g | argh, can't install my plugin | 10:55 |
| SK_work | why ? | 10:55 |
| SK_work | zypper -f | 10:55 |
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| m4g0g | pkcon | 10:55 |
| SK_work | pkcon -f | 10:55 |
| m4g0g | nothing provides sociald = 0.1.7-10.1.2, necessary for sociald-google-images-0.1.7-10.1.2.armv7hl | 10:56 |
| m4g0g | but | 10:56 |
| m4g0g | rpm -q sociald => sociald-0.1.7-10.1.2.jolla.armv7hl | 10:56 |
| SK_work | wtf | 10:56 |
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| SK_work | m4g0g: what about forcing ? | 10:59 |
| SK_work | how did you compiled the packages ? | 10:59 |
| m4g0g | in qt creator for armv arch, as usually for jolla | 11:01 |
| m4g0g | unknown flags: -f, --force, force | 11:01 |
| SK_work | pkcon install zypper | 11:04 |
| SK_work | zypper in -f <package-name> | 11:04 |
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| m4g0g | doesn | 11:20 |
| m4g0g | 't | 11:20 |
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| m4g0g | I replace sociald and all plugins with new rebuilded version and now there are not facebook and google account | 11:21 |
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| m4g0g | fuck, now I can't restore google and facebook at all | 11:25 |
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| m4g0g | good job...I broke sociald | 11:32 |
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| Armadillo | :D | 11:35 |
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| m4g0g | Armadillo: very funny! | 11:38 |
| Armadillo | :P | 11:38 |
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| m4g0g | lol | 11:54 |
| m4g0g | this is all without any profit | 11:54 |
| m4g0g | I can't create jolla-gallery-plugin for google | 11:54 |
| hesetys | how can I execute the dalvik VM in my Jolla from command line? I have a android apk that won't isntall (due it proparbly "requiring" too new android version and I wonder if I cane get it running from command line..) | 11:56 |
| leszek | hesetys: normally dalvik should run in the background and is started via a systemd service file. In your case I would rather try hacking the apk and see if it has a version requirement there and if it has setting it to lower. I don't see any other practical way | 11:57 |
| leszek | at least not if you want to mess around | 11:57 |
| hesetys | ok | 12:03 |
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| chem|st | m4g0g: rephrasing your request, you want to make a picasa account pugin with the option to not download your picasa folders to the device | 12:10 |
| m4g0g | no | 12:10 |
| m4g0g | I want to add google-images to buteo-sync + add possibility to see images in gallery like facebook | 12:11 |
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| m4g0g | if first part I can do with some changes in accounts ui, but second path I can't do at all | 12:12 |
| chem|st | picasa down+upload? + view in gallery | 12:12 |
| m4g0g | down + view in gallery. upload, I think, I should do via share plugin | 12:13 |
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| anandrkris | Hi - Just quick confirmation before i post in TJC... | 12:49 |
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| anandrkris | In Landscape view of Documents application, there is no visual indicator of Index page | 12:49 |
| anandrkris | Screen is split into half on tap showing sharing options but there is no glow to indicate there is Index page | 12:50 |
| m4g0g | hmm. I have label. Is it possible to show x position of text? coderus - you said that this is possible | 12:50 |
| anandrkris | is this a regression of removing hierarchy for pages? | 12:50 |
| j-doge | anandrkris: the glowing dot indicating a previous view should be there, if it's not and there is a previous view it's a bug | 12:52 |
| anandrkris | glowing dot appears on on end not on another.. | 12:53 |
| anandrkris | wait..let me get a snapshot | 12:53 |
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| anandrkris | http://i.imgur.com/aSyrvzp.jpg | 12:58 |
| j-doge | anandrkris: I'm inclined to say the dot is on the right hand side of the screen, which makes it completely invisible against the white background :P | 13:02 |
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| j-doge | which does sound like a design oversight | 13:03 |
| anandrkris | j-doge: frantically searching for non-white bg pdfs :-) | 13:04 |
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| anandrkris | shall i file this under https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-office/issues ? | 13:06 |
| j-doge | anandrkris: I think I'll make an internal bug about it, since it might affect some other areas as well | 13:06 |
| anandrkris | cool then | 13:07 |
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| j-doge | yeah, the glowin dot is there (converted a pic to pdf), it's just invisible over a white background :) | 13:10 |
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| tortoisedoc | boom! | 13:15 |
| tortoisedoc | has anyone attempted to get user-side systemd services up and running | 13:16 |
| tortoisedoc | ? | 13:16 |
| tortoisedoc | and did they succeed? :) | 13:16 |
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| kimmoli | tortoisedoc: fails miserably on boot | 13:19 |
| kimmoli | fails to start on boot | 13:19 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: for gallery plugin you need to install specific files at specific places | 13:20 |
| SK_work | will tell you | 13:20 |
| SK_work | but the best is to do a rpm -ql jolla-gallery-facebook | 13:20 |
| SK_work | to get the list of files | 13:20 |
| SK_work | and then, read how they are done | 13:20 |
| m4g0g | SK_work: yes | 13:21 |
| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : i found some old mail in the devlist | 13:21 |
| m4g0g | I did this | 13:21 |
| tortoisedoc | are you referring to that with "fails miserably on boot"? | 13:21 |
| tortoisedoc | https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-January/003108.html | 13:21 |
| m4g0g | and between qml files there is one so | 13:21 |
| kimmoli | maybe | 13:21 |
| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : ack so that is generally speaking? :| | 13:22 |
| tortoisedoc | that sucks | 13:22 |
| tortoisedoc | there is not even cron ;_; | 13:22 |
| kimmoli | my service was in the etc/systemd/user, afaik there is also place under /home/nemo | 13:22 |
| kimmoli | now i start my user-service from system servicve via dbus | 13:23 |
| tortoisedoc | yeah etc/systemd/user is the place i had it in too | 13:23 |
| tortoisedoc | hmhm | 13:23 |
| tortoisedoc | interesting option | 13:23 |
| kimmoli | i had lots of things to do as root, also as nemo | 13:24 |
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| kimmoli | tried first user service with suid, that kinda worked | 13:25 |
| kimmoli | but had issues getting /run/user/100000 locked to root | 13:25 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: see the only file (FacebookCacheSomething.qml) in /usr/share/jolla-gallery/mediasources ? | 13:25 |
| anandrkris | Hi - Is it necessary to connect Jolla to PC using offical USB cable? | 13:25 |
| kimmoli | i did give up, have root(system) service, and separate user service for nemo-stuff | 13:25 |
| SK_work | just take this, rename to picasa something | 13:25 |
| SK_work | anandrkris: no | 13:25 |
| anandrkris | "Error initializing camera: -1: Unspecified error " getting this error on Mint 17.1 | 13:25 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: remove all models stuff, and put a dummy model (like ListModel) | 13:26 |
| SK_work | check what happens | 13:26 |
| Nicd- | anandrkris: USB cable doesn't matter | 13:26 |
| SK_work | a new square should display in gallery for picasa stuff | 13:26 |
| Nicd- | it's just a standard cable | 13:26 |
| anandrkris | mtp-detect | grep idVendor ran this command | 13:26 |
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| anandrkris | http://pastebin.com/UFQPN8Bg > results here | 13:27 |
| m4g0g | SK_work: | 13:27 |
| m4g0g | https://bpaste.net/show/6de32ff0f041 | 13:27 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: | 13:27 |
| SK_work | ok | 13:27 |
| m4g0g | 12 line | 13:27 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: yep | 13:27 |
| m4g0g | > *.so | 13:28 |
| SK_work | cp /usr/share/jolla-gallery/mediasources/FacebookCacheMediaSource.qml /usr/share/jolla-gallery/mediasources/GoogleCacheMediaSource.qml | 13:28 |
| m4g0g | c+ library | 13:28 |
| SK_work | this file controls the "square" in gallery | 13:28 |
| SK_work | inside you can do what you want basically | 13:28 |
| m4g0g | ok | 13:28 |
| m4g0g | I am trying | 13:28 |
| anandrkris | hmm...not sure it its a Mint Issue or Jolla issue! | 13:28 |
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| SK_work | m4g0g: edit the file heavily | 13:30 |
| SK_work | remvoe the facebook model stuff and put something smaller | 13:30 |
| SK_work | (like a dummy ListModel) | 13:30 |
| SK_work | (the model is used to show sliding photos) | 13:30 |
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| kimmoli | SK_work: while you are there, any idea? https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2015-January/005453.html | 13:32 |
| SK_work | kimmoli: I have seen this | 13:33 |
| SK_work | no idea but didn't checked | 13:33 |
| SK_work | really deeply | 13:33 |
| kimmoli | yeah, i dont know even where to start :( | 13:33 |
| m4g0g | SK_work: now I am finishing with linksbag and will return to google-images | 13:34 |
| SK_work | kimmoli: src/toholed.cpp:19 where is the code ? | 13:34 |
| kimmoli | that has #include qdbus | 13:35 |
| kimmoli | code | 13:35 |
| kimmoli | https://bitbucket.org/kimmoli/toholed_daemon/src/9da3685ee1a4692c8aa4a3329285aa6ef0c721f0/src/toholed.cpp?at=master#cl-19 | 13:35 |
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| sandsmark | kimmoli: try doing the other includes after the Qt includes? | 13:37 |
| kimmoli | this did build october, and haven't had issues doing them this way on other projects | 13:38 |
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| sandsmark | do you have all the same includes in the same order in the other projects? | 13:39 |
| sandsmark | without looking into the header files, my guess is that some of the headers you include before qtdbus modifies something that qtdbus uses | 13:39 |
| anandrkris | its throwing crazy errors when connected with usb unplugged it...erratic behavior..connects at times though | 13:40 |
| sandsmark | something seems to define something qvariant uses to M_PI or something? | 13:41 |
| sandsmark | kimmoli: also try wrapping the c headers in extern "C" {} ? | 13:42 |
| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : it seems like a MOC issue | 13:42 |
| tortoisedoc | did you try full rebuild? | 13:42 |
| tortoisedoc | or does that happen by default on OBS? | 13:42 |
| kimmoli | this is on mer-obs | 13:42 |
| sandsmark | tortoisedoc: uhm, where do you see moc involved? | 13:42 |
| kimmoli | afaik it install whole vm at start | 13:42 |
| tortoisedoc | QtMetaTypePrivate::QPairVariantInterfaceImp | 13:42 |
| sandsmark | I don't see how moc would be involved in main.cpp | 13:42 |
| tortoisedoc | isnt this generated by mok? | 13:43 |
| sandsmark | no | 13:43 |
| sandsmark | moc-files are moc_foo.cpp or foo.moc | 13:43 |
| SK_work | kimmoli: weired, why do you include QtDBus as a whole ? | 13:43 |
| SK_work | can't you include QDBusSomething ? | 13:43 |
| sandsmark | SK_work: that's what he does: #include <QtDBus/QtDBus> | 13:43 |
| SK_work | workaround | 13:43 |
| sandsmark | oh | 13:43 |
| sandsmark | didn't read :D | 13:43 |
| kimmoli | i dont know | 13:43 |
| sandsmark | SK_work: any dbus-think will drag in qtdbusdepends anyways? | 13:43 |
| sandsmark | so I don't think that would change anything | 13:44 |
| kimmoli | i usually end up to something that works (thourhg headbanging process) | 13:44 |
| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : likewise , standard procedure in Jolla :P | 13:44 |
| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : do you get same result if you inlcude qt headers before your headers? | 13:45 |
| tortoisedoc | *include | 13:45 |
| sandsmark | const QtMetaTypePrivate::VariantData d1 = pi.first(); | 13:45 |
| kimmoli | i havent tried any changes to the code yet | 13:45 |
| sandsmark | kimmoli: you include something that define pi to an actual pi | 13:45 |
| kimmoli | i tried to opposite method, ask first | 13:45 |
| sandsmark | kimmoli: put the dbus include first | 13:45 |
| sandsmark | or wrap the c-headers in extern "C" {} might work as well | 13:46 |
| SK_work | haha | 13:46 |
| SK_work | why is there pi in some qmetatype ? :s | 13:46 |
| sandsmark | because it's a PairInterface | 13:46 |
| sandsmark | and typing out pairInterface is hard :p | 13:46 |
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| tortoisedoc | pi === PairInterface? :P | 13:46 |
| SK_work | Oo | 13:46 |
| sandsmark | QtMetaTypePrivate::QPairVariantInterfaceImpl pi = v.value<QtMetaTypePrivate::QPairVariantInterfaceImpl>(); | 13:46 |
| SK_work | ok | 13:46 |
| SK_work | seriously | 13:46 |
| SK_work | I see | 13:46 |
| kimmoli | and as said before, this issue didn't occur before OBS sailfish-latest was updated | 13:47 |
| sandsmark | after typing out QtMetaTypePrivate::QPairVariantInterfaceImpl you don't want to type a huge variable name :p | 13:47 |
| SK_work | well played | 13:47 |
| tortoisedoc | hih | 13:47 |
| sandsmark | kimmoli: yeah, some header probably changed | 13:47 |
| SK_work | kimmoli: DBus headers changed ? | 13:47 |
| tortoisedoc | '3.14158999999999988261834005243144929409027099609e+0' | 13:47 |
| tortoisedoc | that seems to be pi value | 13:47 |
| kimmoli | close enouhg? | 13:47 |
| sandsmark | welcome to the party tortoisedoc :p | 13:47 |
| tortoisedoc | sandsmark : where's my hat :P | 13:47 |
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| sandsmark | it's green | 13:48 |
| * tortoisedoc yippee | 13:48 | |
| sandsmark | :D | 13:48 |
| kimmoli | my hat has ears | 13:48 |
| kimmoli | so they use pi for QPairVariantInterfaceImpl, and also pi for 3.14... | 13:49 |
| SK_work | kimmoli: you might have declared pi as a maro | 13:49 |
| SK_work | macro | 13:49 |
| sandsmark | qvariant.h uses pi as a variable name, some other header you include #define pi as 3.14..... | 13:49 |
| sandsmark | and defining something two letters long is bad form :P | 13:49 |
| tortoisedoc | lol | 13:50 |
| kimmoli | src/oled.h:#define pi (3.14159) | 13:50 |
| kimmoli | :) | 13:50 |
| sandsmark | :D | 13:50 |
| Nicd- | hahaha :D | 13:50 |
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| sandsmark | do I get a prize? | 13:50 |
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| SK_work | defining something with low letters is bad too | 13:51 |
| SK_work | lowercase | 13:51 |
| sandsmark | yeah | 13:51 |
| sandsmark | global constants and #defines should always be ALL UPPERCASE | 13:51 |
| sandsmark | imho | 13:51 |
| kimmoli | afaik i did copy this part from some arduino code... | 13:51 |
| kimmoli | so blame.some.one.else | 13:52 |
| SK_work | :D | 13:52 |
| sandsmark | haha | 13:52 |
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| kimmoli | will test and answer to my mail | 13:54 |
| sandsmark | <3 | 13:55 |
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| Armadillo | hmmm, I have a long list of values (currently 34), from which the user can choose, but as those are not directly connected mathematically, a solution with a slider doesn't seem to be possible | 14:02 |
| Armadillo | also a comboboy with 34 options seems not a good solution to me | 14:02 |
| Armadillo | any ideas? | 14:02 |
| sandsmark | Armadillo: array/vector with the different values? | 14:03 |
| Armadillo | there will also be more sliders with other options on the page, so this should be highly compact | 14:03 |
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| sandsmark | so, first value at first point in the vector, second value in the second point, etc. | 14:03 |
| sandsmark | and then just use the value from the slider to look up the actual value | 14:03 |
| Armadillo | omg | 14:04 |
| Armadillo | why haven't I found myself to this simple solution | 14:04 |
| Armadillo | thanks :D | 14:04 |
| sandsmark | haha, np | 14:04 |
| sandsmark | simple solutions are usually the hardest to come up with :p | 14:05 |
| Armadillo | :) | 14:05 |
| sandsmark | and it helps to have not thought too much about the problem already | 14:05 |
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| Armadillo | so true :) | 14:05 |
| kimmoli | aka lookuptable | 14:06 |
| sandsmark | yeah | 14:06 |
| sandsmark | LUTs ftw | 14:06 |
| sandsmark | that's probably where I got it from, though I don't do precalcing much anymore :p | 14:07 |
| kimmoli | i almost suggested that when Armadillo asked that first-time, but i did keep it so obvious that didnt | 14:07 |
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| Armadillo | ^^ | 14:08 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: i was trying to create a BKtree for just swipehints for the benchmark | 14:12 |
| saidinesh5 | but like expected, the editDistance method was too......... | 14:12 |
| saidinesh5 | demanding | 14:12 |
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| saidinesh5 | also i think the "balancedness of the tree" also comes into picture at this scale... | 14:13 |
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| sandsmark | hmm | 14:15 |
| sandsmark | just like my gf | 14:15 |
| sandsmark | but yeah, I don't think manipulating the "balance" can help | 14:15 |
| saidinesh5 | i think it does | 14:16 |
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| saidinesh5 | right now its seearching 10000 nodes... | 14:16 |
| saidinesh5 | but more importantly we need a faster edit distance metric | 14:16 |
| saidinesh5 | if we need to use BKtrees | 14:17 |
| sandsmark | saidinesh5: sure, but there's no way to "balance" it that's optimal for everything | 14:17 |
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| saidinesh5 | hmm...... | 14:18 |
| saidinesh5 | was thinking more about adding a child only if it starts off with a neighbour key..... or something like that | 14:19 |
| saidinesh5 | at least for the root node | 14:20 |
| saidinesh5 | but yeah a new metric for edit distance is more important i guess | 14:20 |
| sandsmark | hmm, I'm not sure I understand what that would be | 14:21 |
| sandsmark | something like simhash? | 14:21 |
| saidinesh5 | could be..... | 14:22 |
| sandsmark | simhash didn't seem so complicated, try implementing it? | 14:22 |
| saidinesh5 | was wondering if something like cos or something | 14:23 |
| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: the problem is it's recall rate | 14:23 |
| saidinesh5 | or wait thats signature hash | 14:23 |
| saidinesh5 | did you check the other link out btw. ? | 14:24 |
| sandsmark | which link? | 14:26 |
| saidinesh5 | http://ntz-develop.blogspot.in/ | 14:26 |
| sandsmark | so much text | 14:31 |
| saidinesh5 | lol | 14:32 |
| saidinesh5 | scroll down to the results then | 14:32 |
| saidinesh5 | comparison | 14:33 |
| sandsmark | what is n-gram m2? | 14:35 |
| sandsmark | but n-grams seems to the way to go anyways | 14:35 |
| sandsmark | or, depends on the quality of the results as well, I guess | 14:36 |
| saidinesh5 | that guy optimized ngrams a little | 14:36 |
| saidinesh5 | btw. this is NOT the NLP modification | 14:36 |
| saidinesh5 | *NLP ngrams | 14:36 |
| saidinesh5 | this is more of | 14:36 |
| saidinesh5 | split a word into chunks | 14:36 |
| saidinesh5 | of Ngrams | 14:36 |
| saidinesh5 | like VODKA = VOD, ODK, DKA | 14:37 |
| saidinesh5 | okay that was a bad example..... | 14:37 |
| sandsmark | yeah, I saw that | 14:37 |
| sandsmark | but what is m2? | 14:37 |
| saidinesh5 | "We can even slightly reduce the size of iterating set by separating tables by word length, and, similarly, scanning only the neighboring 2k+1 tables (second modification M2)." | 14:38 |
| sandsmark | ah, ok | 14:39 |
| sandsmark | hmm | 14:39 |
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| netvandal | guys, there is standard icons for buttons in sailfish? | 14:56 |
| sandsmark | yeah, you access them with some magic url like image://foobar or something | 14:57 |
| SK_work | netvandal: ls /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch/icons | 14:57 |
| SK_work | and to use them | 14:57 |
| SK_work | if you want to use icon-l-foobar.png, use in your qml code: "image://theme/icon-l-foobar" | 14:57 |
| netvandal | SK_work: perfect , thankyou | 14:57 |
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| saidinesh5 | hmm..... | 15:11 |
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| meekygeek | sandsmark, SK_work: Good Evening !!! Today studied the strace logs of firefox build as suggested by you guys. | 15:28 |
| meekygeek | the polling happens on 4 fd. fd=4, fd=8, fd=22, fd=31 | 15:29 |
| meekygeek | did a lsof and tried to find out the open fds of firefox based on pid. | 15:30 |
| SK_work | meekygeek: just a quick inteersting test you cand o | 15:30 |
| meekygeek | fd=4 is a anon_inode[eventfd] and all the rest are socket fds. | 15:30 |
| SK_work | install fedora 21 gnome wayland | 15:30 |
| SK_work | try to build firefoxqt wayland version and make it run on a desktop ? | 15:31 |
| SK_work | might be easier to debug | 15:31 |
| SK_work | especially the wayland tricky part ? | 15:31 |
| SK_work | what do you think | 15:31 |
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| meekygeek | sure, can try it. | 15:32 |
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| giucam | krnlyng: ping | 15:34 |
| meekygeek | one question though. while I was exploring open file descriptors, could see /run/user/100000/weston-shared-PhBepK (deleted). However I thought weston is not the compositor used in sailfish. am I missing something? | 15:34 |
| krnlyng | giucam: pong | 15:34 |
| giucam | krnlyng: i see that you've used apitrace on the phone | 15:35 |
| giucam | krnlyng: how did you build it? it fails looking for Xlib stuff | 15:35 |
| krnlyng | giucam: not successfully unfortunately | 15:35 |
| giucam | did you manually modify the eglplatform.h? | 15:35 |
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| krnlyng | hm i actually don't remember any xlib issues | 15:35 |
| krnlyng | giucam: no i didn't edit eglplatform | 15:36 |
| giucam | hmm | 15:36 |
| krnlyng | what is the error? | 15:36 |
| giucam | krnlyng: apitrace/thirdparty/khronos/EGL/eglplatform.h:115:22: fatal error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory | 15:38 |
| SK_work | meekygeek: maybe firefox is relying on weston a bit too much ? | 15:38 |
| giucam | which makes sense, looking at the header | 15:38 |
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| SK_work | that's weired | 15:38 |
| meekygeek | SK_work: hmm. yeah interesting | 15:39 |
| krnlyng | giucam: maybe i added -DMESA_EGL_NO_X11_HEADERS i think there was something like that | 15:40 |
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| meekygeek | SK_work: But, atleast it conveys that it is really trying to run in wayland as weston is (somehow) related to wayland :-) | 15:41 |
| SK_work | yeah | 15:43 |
| SK_work | :) | 15:43 |
| SK_work | it should crash if it wasn't trying to run with wayland | 15:43 |
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| krnlyng | giucam: if you get apitrace to work propely please let me know | 15:44 |
| giucam | krnlyng: sure | 15:45 |
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| meekygeek | *sigh* build was sucessful. but unable to launch!!! Similar to a medical operation successfull but patient no more :-) | 15:46 |
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| dpurgin | guys, does anyone use the harbour-callrecorder here? | 15:58 |
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| tadzik | yep | 16:00 |
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| dpurgin | can you please change output location to SD card and check if new call will be recorded and played back with no problem? | 16:02 |
| dpurgin | I tried and it works | 16:02 |
| dpurgin | there has been a report on openrepos saying that old files were relocated and playable but the new ones show 0 size | 16:03 |
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| anandrkris | Hi - Clipboard doesn't get updated at all (1.1.1.27)...any workarounds known instead of rebooting? :-) | 16:31 |
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| SK_work | anandrkris: killall maliit-server ? | 16:33 |
| anandrkris | requires su privileges? | 16:33 |
| anandrkris | doesn't help :-( | 16:38 |
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| anandrkris | neither does systemctl --user restart maliit-server.service | 16:44 |
| anandrkris | as suggested in https://together.jolla.com/question/71900/11126-cleaning-of-clipboard-crashes-android-apps/ | 16:45 |
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| kriszik | Hi could someone help me troubleshooting the new SDK? Since I installed SDK 1412 I get rsync error when I want to deploy even with the default boilerplate Sailfish app. SSH works fine, connection test in SDK is successful. | 16:48 |
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| giucam | krnlyng: it works | 18:24 |
| giucam | but i had to hack out a weird bug | 18:25 |
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| krnlyng | giucam: oh nice, what was it? | 18:39 |
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| Armadillo | hmmm | 19:57 |
| Armadillo | the new sdk always hangs up on my win7 x64 machine, reinstalled it 3 times :-/ | 19:57 |
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| kimmoli | Armadillo: not respoding? | 20:05 |
| Armadillo | yep | 20:05 |
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| Armadillo | no particular usecase, it works some seconds, then gets unresponsive for several minutes | 20:05 |
| kimmoli | patience, i have that too, but after i get project and source opened, it works kinda fine | 20:06 |
| kimmoli | usually not responding after i have started it | 20:06 |
| Armadillo | I also have this if I'm browsing for the project files to open it for example | 20:06 |
| kimmoli | hmm. for me it stops "not responding" after a moment | 20:07 |
| kimmoli | i.e. it keeps responding then | 20:07 |
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| Armadillo | I'll install it to the second ssd to exclude hardware issues | 20:07 |
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| Armadillo | same problem :-/ | 20:10 |
| Armadillo | any other paths to search for old sdk fragments which should be removed than ~/AppData/Roaming ? | 20:12 |
| Olpe | Does anyone know what would cause the blank white webview issue that some users are experiencing in the FMI Weather app? Difficult to fix because I can't reproduce it | 20:16 |
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| Armadillo | it also happens with deactivated AV scanner >( | 20:24 |
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| Armadillo | hardware seems to be ok relating to hd tune, full viruscans were ok, too | 20:28 |
| Jare | Armadillo: there's a user config dir SailfishBeta1, which doesn't get removed by the installer, but nothing else besides that | 20:29 |
| kimmoli | something fishy with new qtcreator | 20:29 |
| kimmoli | with win7-64 | 20:29 |
| Armadillo | I had an old Alpha directory which I removed 5 reinstalls ago | 20:29 |
| Armadillo | so this shouldn't cause this | 20:29 |
| Armadillo | makes the sdk completely useless :-/ | 20:30 |
| Jare | VMs work as usual though? | 20:30 |
| Armadillo | well it's not easy to try | 20:31 |
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| Armadillo | it freezes every 5-10 seconds for 30 seconds | 20:31 |
| Armadillo | hm | 20:32 |
| kimmoli | i started sdk just, and this time no issues at all | 20:33 |
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| Jare | hmm, there's one thing that comes to my mind with that kind of random hangs | 20:34 |
| Jare | Armadillo: start qtcreator, go to Help->About Plugins, disable UpdateInfo and restart qtcreator | 20:35 |
| Armadillo | I'll try | 20:35 |
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| Armadillo | doesn't seem to help | 20:37 |
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| Armadillo | it's marked as deactivated after restart, but I have the same hangs | 20:38 |
| Armadillo | although it doesn't seem to me, that they are completely random | 20:39 |
| Armadillo | the time it hangs (something over 30 seconds) and the time it works between the hangs (5-10 seconds) seem to be the same length each time | 20:40 |
| Armadillo | and there's no difference if I'm doing something on the UI or if it's just idling | 20:40 |
| Armadillo | erm | 20:42 |
| Armadillo | it seems to work after the mersdk vm has been started | 20:43 |
| Armadillo | I'm double checking this... | 20:43 |
| Armadillo | yes | 20:45 |
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| Armadillo | that's it | 20:45 |
| Jare | ok, you can re-enable the plugin then. There were some changes on how it interacts with the vms, so it could well be a bug there | 20:46 |
| Armadillo | oh, my virtualbox version is quite old (4.3.6 instead of 4.3.20) | 20:46 |
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| Armadillo | I'll update virtualbox, maybe there were changes in the virtualbox background services | 20:46 |
| Jare | iirc kimmoli had the latest and greatest | 20:47 |
| Jare | in case this is the same issue | 20:47 |
| kimmoli | öm | 20:47 |
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| kimmoli | 4.3.2 | 20:47 |
| kimmoli | old as stick and stone | 20:47 |
| Jare | twentyish :B | 20:48 |
| Armadillo | :D | 20:48 |
| Jare | well try the latest one and tell me if it works | 20:48 |
| Armadillo | removing old virtualbox version before installing new one on windows? | 20:49 |
| Armadillo | can't be to bad | 20:50 |
| Armadillo | ^^ | 20:50 |
| Jare | i guess it should handle an update, but if you want to be sure... | 20:50 |
| Armadillo | lets see... | 20:52 |
| Armadillo | restarted the whole machine to be sure the old services got killed | 20:52 |
| Armadillo | yes, it worked | 20:53 |
| Armadillo | no more hangs without a running mersdk vm | 20:53 |
| Armadillo | thanks for the help :) | 20:53 |
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| Jare | ok great, i'll update the documentation at some point... | 20:54 |
| Jare | kimmoli ^ | 20:54 |
| Armadillo | Jare also with enabled UpdateInfo everything works fine now :) | 20:54 |
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| Armadillo | thanks again and good night everyone | 20:55 |
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| kimmoli | have to check updating if my propblems reproduces them | 20:55 |
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| kimmoli | tested few start, open project, deploy rounds and everything was fine | 20:56 |
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| Olpe | so nobody knows what causes the blank webview issue? Does somebody here happen to get it? | 21:18 |
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| muppis | Is there workaround to make alarm to use selected tone and not default one? | 21:31 |
| muppis | Selected tone is in same dir where selected ringtone is and ringtone works. So is that just a bug in jolla-alarm-ui not to obey settings? | 21:33 |
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| attah | muppis: sure it is not just overridden by a ambience? | 21:34 |
| muppis | I'll check. | 21:36 |
| attah | just a guess.. and i need to go, good luck! | 21:36 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmhm | 21:37 |
| tortoisedoc | does anyone have a clue | 21:38 |
| tortoisedoc | how to debug the .yaml -> .spec conversion tool? | 21:38 |
| tortoisedoc | for some incredible reason | 21:38 |
| tortoisedoc | my .spec file is not generated anymore | 21:38 |
| tortoisedoc | since I switched to the latest sdk release | 21:38 |
| tortoisedoc | i found out i had it in the wrong place and moved it in the correct one | 21:39 |
| tortoisedoc | (the yaml file) | 21:39 |
| tortoisedoc | but still it does not generate a .spec for me | 21:39 |
| tortoisedoc | :| | 21:39 |
| tortoisedoc | weirrrd | 21:39 |
| tortoisedoc | and annnnnnoooooooooying | 21:39 |
| tortoisedoc | oh well | 21:40 |
| tortoisedoc | time to go to bed :P | 21:40 |
| tortoisedoc | have a good one! | 21:40 |
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| muppis | Oh. So ambience overrides system sounds if set favorite. So could system setting then show ambience settings to have effect? | 21:46 |
| raa700 | ofc not | 21:56 |
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| tigeli | muppis: only favorited ambiences override system sounds | 22:01 |
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