Friday, 2014-12-12

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Toxiphello05:03
Toxipanyone here?05:03
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topiasvhow do I leave a query in irssi? -_-05:04
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BysmyyrToxip: what you mean?05:20
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coderusToxip: write /wc07:09
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zGrrmoin :)08:25
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ToxipHello :)11:11
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Toxipanybody out there? :D11:12
hasdf_android apps would't start, I had to do a reboot? Is that a common problem?11:12
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Toxiphave you tried the Jolla utilities?11:12
Toxipyou can restart the android runtime from there11:13
hasdfah thank you11:14
hasdfbut is it common for the android runtime to crash? Or does an specific app crash it?11:14
Toxipit may also be a low memory situtation11:14
Toxipso they won't start because of something hogging all the memory11:15
hasdfI just had dolphin and a twitter app open.. but yes: didn't check that11:15
Toxipwell, android apps consume a considerable amount of ram11:15
Toxipare you using Uitukka opt-in update 9?11:16
hasdfno. I read that the normal update is coming around christmas. wanted to wait for that11:16
Toxipand I recommend downloading system monitor from warehouse, it's a very useful app11:16
Toxipyou can keep track of things like battery percentage, cpu/ram/network usage etc11:17
ToxipI keep it on all the time11:17
Toxipbut did you mean that you couldn't start a new android app when you had those two open or?11:18
Toxipit's not possible to run so many android apps at the same time11:20
SK_workToxip: especially dolphin, that is a browser11:21
Toxipyep... and a heavy one too11:21
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coderusSK_work: i done awesome launcher grid mode with settings. will test and upload tonight :)11:32
coderusgrid mod*11:33
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hasdfToxip, dolphin crashed and I couldn't open any more android apps if I remember correctly11:41
Toxiphmm... maybe it was lingering in the background or something11:42
Toxiptry downloading that system monitor app and lighthouse and see if you can reproduce that11:42
Toxipif it happens again, you can check the ram usage and check lighthouse for open processes11:43
hasdfok11:43
tbrsystemctl restart aliendalvik.service11:43
tbrmight need to devel-su11:44
Toxipor just use the utilities11:44
hasdfcan you recommend any browser? Reading texts with the built-in browser doesn't work for me (no "text zoom" like in dolphin)11:46
ToxipI haven't had any problem with the native one so far11:47
Toxiptry out webcat, another native browser11:47
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hasdfsry for so many newby questions. just got my jolla this week.11:53
Toxipno problem :)11:53
Toxipcheckout together.jolla.com for answers too or ask if it's not already answered11:53
hasdfif I want to turn on wifi/gps etc. I have to go to apps/settings and turn it on there? Is there any quicker way to access this? Like the pulldown menu in android11:53
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Toxipwell, there's a patch to add quick settings to events view11:54
Toxipbut if you're not willing to try out some 3rd party hacks, then no11:55
hasdfNo problem with hacks ;P If i patch and then update sailfhish, does a patch fuck up things?11:57
ToxipIt just stops working and reverts to normal11:57
Toxipand might be unable to apply the patch again until someone updates the patches11:58
Toxipcheckout this http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9293511:59
ToxipI'm pretty sure we'll see the same functionality added on an update later though12:00
Toxipnot necessarily the next one but Soon™12:00
Toxipsee this picture of Sailfish 2.0 seen on the tablet crowdfunding campaign https://images.indiegogo.com/file_attachments/1025187/files/20141118003058-single_tablet_events_view.gif?141629945812:02
mekluincoming skype integration or just concept art? :)12:04
ToxipI don't know :)... depends on whether microsoft wants to do any business with Jolla I guess.12:06
hasdfToxip, can't install lipstick-pandora with sailfish 1.0.8.21 - maybe that's that optional update you spoke of :/12:08
Toxipthe opt-in is 1.0.9.3912:09
pp_1.1.0.3912:09
Toxipoh yeah, oops :P12:10
Toxipbut I was able to install the patches on 1.0.8.2112:10
Toxipdid you download it from warehouse?12:10
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ToxipI will donate dogecoin to whoever decides to code a native wallet for sailfishOS... it's even done on Qt!12:27
j-dogeI really should take doge out from my hilight list12:27
stephghaha12:28
Toxip:D12:28
stephgToxip: the doge wallet is just the litecoin one reskinned, no? (if so it's qt4)12:28
Toxipnot sure...12:28
Toxipmost probably yes12:28
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SK_workcoderus: <312:55
SK_workawesome12:55
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coderushasdf: pandora is for 1.0.7.x and lower13:18
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hasdfToxip, I can install the "Better video Controls"-Patch but not the Homescreen-patches ("Failed to install patch"). I'll propably need to wait for an answer in the forum topic14:12
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Toxiphasdf: I think I also had some problems with the patches but that's in Uitukka 1.1.0.39..14:17
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ToxipI didn't have any problems on the previous update though...14:18
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hasdfToxip, are you running th Uitukka update and does the "control center in events view"-patch work?14:20
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ToxipI had to get a fix for it somewhere to get it work14:22
Toxipbut for 1.0.8.21 I had no problems14:23
SK_workToxip: what's the problem with patch ?14:23
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Toxipwith update 9, they changed the location for some of the QML files so the patches failed14:24
nadleyHi all14:24
Toxiphi14:24
nadleyI'm a new owner of a jolla phone ;-)14:24
Toxipwelcome :)14:25
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nadley:D14:25
nadleyfor the moment I'm a little bit lost using it :D14:25
Stskeepsupdate it, re-run tutorial14:25
Toxipyou'll get used to it and once you do there's never going back14:26
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ToxipI always try to do the gestures when I use an android phone :D14:26
Yanielnadley:give it a week and you'll be lost with android and ios14:27
SK_workToxip: updated patches ?14:27
SK_workwelcome nadley14:28
ToxipI haven't checked if there's updated versions but this back when the Uitukka just came out14:28
ToxipI'm all good :)14:29
Yaniel(happened to me with my n8 too)14:29
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ToxipSK_work: hasdf is the one who needs help :)14:30
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nadleyYaniel: I'll see but for the moment I feel it a little bit slow to launch apps.14:44
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hasdfnadley, native or android apps?14:47
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nadleynative14:48
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coderusbtw, will u10 have qt5-qtscript version 5.2 ?16:08
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coderusSK_work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/949091416:13
coderuswill make patch/diff later16:13
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SK_workcoderus: ok16:17
SK_workcoderus: I guess so16:17
SK_workfor 5.2 in u1016:17
coderusSK_work: i very doubt they fixed problems with qtscript16:19
SK_workwhich problem with qtscript ?16:20
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coderusoptimizations afaiik16:24
coderusi can tell you only stuff i understand myself :D16:24
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coderuswho is responsible for mce in Jolla?17:02
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tbrcoderus: any reason you need a jolla person and not just one of the mce maintainers, it's open source and maintained in mer/nemo after all17:08
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coderustbr: because jolla changed something in mce * Device lock can be activated manually by double power key press17:14
coderustbr: and i want to know how to revert it17:14
coderustbr: aha it can be relevant:17:15
coderushttps://github.com/nemomobile/mce/commit/cc584581845888e4bcd758c6e8734235b5b2ff4217:15
coderusmoved to g/dconf? yay! :D17:16
tbrsee, no jolla employees necessary, open source rocks17:16
coderusthats awesome, i dont want to revert it anymore :D17:16
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coderusbut it's not trivial as expected18:11
coderusneed to ping spiiroin :D18:11
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coderuscan i get gconftool-2 on u9 somehow?18:43
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