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| M4rtinK | hmm, I think the pypy build is actually chugging along, just very very slowly | 00:05 |
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| M4rtinK | I guess I'll monitor it a bit more closely to will kill it if it really gets stuck in a single place for too long | 00:06 |
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| WalterN | M4rtinK: what should I do if I want to suggest mSATA port instead of SDXC? | 00:09 |
| M4rtinK | WalterN: I would suggest creating a new question on Together | 00:10 |
| M4rtinK | preferably with [Request] and [Jolla Tablet] in header | 00:10 |
| WalterN | assuming it wasent already | 00:10 |
| WalterN | I didnt see anything though | 00:11 |
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| M4rtinK | and also tagged as jolla-tablet and maybe also feature-request | 00:11 |
| M4rtinK | the search functionality is pretty awful :) | 00:11 |
| WalterN | yeah, though I didnt see anything | 00:11 |
| M4rtinK | but I've been monitoring Together quite closely since the start of the Tablet campaign | 00:11 |
| M4rtinK | and haven't seen something like that | 00:12 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, rather double-check the msata 3G thing first | 00:12 |
| WalterN | yeah | 00:12 |
| M4rtinK | could be that I'm wrong or something, it has been some time I've read that | 00:12 |
| WalterN | I'll do a little more research... but as far as I can tell, there is no licensing to use mSATA? | 00:13 |
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| WalterN | evidently intel makes a smaller version called m.2 or something like that | 00:14 |
| WalterN | yeah | 00:15 |
| WalterN | also, should I be talking about this in the other channel? | 00:20 |
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| chem|st | WalterN: the sdxc ship has left the harbour... you cannot make stretch goals reach them and then be sorry but we do like msata more | 00:45 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: well, could be shaped as another thing to add :) | 00:45 |
| M4rtinK | (the question) | 00:45 |
| WalterN | it would be kinda dumb to have both though | 00:46 |
| WalterN | they would both have the same basic goal though, to expand the long term internal storage capability | 00:47 |
| M4rtinK | WalterN: actually my laptop has both :) | 00:48 |
| WalterN | but for a tablet to have both? | 00:48 |
| M4rtinK | uSD can be used for data exchange (depending on how cumbersome is it to remove the card of course) | 00:48 |
| M4rtinK | mSATA is not often used for data xchange | 00:49 |
| M4rtinK | but yeah, would be probably too much to have both on a tablet | 00:49 |
| M4rtinK | it mush be already pretty space starved | 00:49 |
| M4rtinK | *must | 00:49 |
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| M4rtinK | lbt: the pypy build indeed seems to be still progressing - rtyper is at 96% :D | 00:53 |
| M4rtinK | lbt: looks like each 5% takes about 3000 seconds :) | 00:54 |
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| WalterN | M4rtinK: is this what you were talking about? http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-4g-lte-advanced-modems,26115.html | 00:57 |
| WalterN | thats the m.2 interface instead of msata | 00:58 |
| WalterN | ah yeah, here they are | 01:00 |
| M4rtinK | http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?hide_menu_area=true&GroupID=460&Code=0C52886 | 01:00 |
| M4rtinK | that seems to have the same interface as msata | 01:01 |
| WalterN | https://techship.se/products/category/lte-ngff-m2/ | 01:01 |
| WalterN | it says m.2 form factor, but the picture does kinda look like msata | 01:02 |
| M4rtinK | yeah | 01:03 |
| M4rtinK | but most probably too big for a tablet by the looks of it :) | 01:04 |
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| WalterN | if that is m.2 then thats a really small card | 01:05 |
| WalterN | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M.2_and_mSATA_SSDs_comparison.jpg | 01:05 |
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| M4rtinK | oh, that's indeed quite small | 01:06 |
| M4rtinK | interesting | 01:06 |
| WalterN | m.2 interface would be pretty shiny | 01:07 |
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| WalterN | alright, I think I have enough data to say something | 01:10 |
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| WalterN | M4rtinK: can I edit my own post? | 01:30 |
| WalterN | (not that I've posted anything yet) | 01:30 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 01:36 |
| CvP_ | hi, need help. i dont have a dialer/pgone app anymore after install bezter call log. what is the pkcon command to install it? | 01:37 |
| CvP_ | *phone | 01:37 |
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| chem|st | CvP_: voicecall-ui? | 01:56 |
| CvP_ | yes | 01:56 |
| chem|st | ehrm voicecall-ui-jolla | 01:56 |
| chem|st | CvP_: for standard packages search terms are jolla and sailfish in package names | 01:57 |
| CvP_ | chem i thank you | 01:59 |
| CvP_ | how can i list the packages? | 02:00 |
| chem|st | pkcon search? | 02:01 |
| chem|st | http://www.justmanpage.com/man/pkcon.1 | 02:02 |
| CvP_ | something is really really wrong with my jolla... i do 7 times a factory reset. after setup my phone complete and reboot, my phone works very instable with 1.1.0.39. installed android apps wont start anymore and other things | 02:03 |
| chem|st | did you install backups before you upgraded to .39? | 02:04 |
| CvP_ | no | 02:04 |
| CvP_ | dosnt matter with my files/backups | 02:05 |
| chem|st | hmm sounds strange, openrepos? | 02:05 |
| CvP_ | i install somthing apps , yes | 02:05 |
| chem|st | maybe try without openrepos first... | 02:05 |
| CvP_ | but no patches..... except now the better call log | 02:06 |
| Turski | openrepos have broken stuff before | 02:06 |
| Turski | but that probably shouln't be possible anymore... | 02:06 |
| chem|st | you can easily pull an updated package that renders your device factory-reset worhty again | 02:06 |
| CvP_ | pkcon update? | 02:07 |
| chem|st | Turski: they broke during upgrades... just because of that... does not mean this could not happen by user action | 02:07 |
| chem|st | CvP_: no! | 02:07 |
| chem|st | CvP_: I would not do that with open repos active... | 02:08 |
| Turski | chem|st: yeah, sure | 02:08 |
| chem|st | ah is pkcon update install upgrades or the repo upgrade? | 02:08 |
| chem|st | yeah NO dont update | 02:08 |
| Turski | update just fetches new package lists? | 02:09 |
| chem|st | nope pkcon update updates the system | 02:09 |
| Turski | wow, that's misleading | 02:09 |
| chem|st | I am so used to apt-get... | 02:09 |
| Turski | that's what i was thinking about too | 02:11 |
| Turski | even it has been a while since last time with apt-get | 02:11 |
| chem|st | Turski: that is dangerous after all... people do things on the console with being unfamiliar with linux... at maemo we at least hat some kind of QA for extras but openrepos feels just like "internet" as package repo for windows | 02:11 |
| Turski | chem|st: i agree, i haven't been using openrepos at all since nieldk's bash broke the whole system for me | 02:12 |
| Turski | chem|st: how's it going with chum? | 02:12 |
| Turski | not active? | 02:12 |
| chem|st | chum? | 02:12 |
| CvP_ | maybe this Information helps. few days ago with 1.1.0.39, i am very happy. after.i install glacier homescreen, but i deinstall it again without using it. i forget to reinstall lipstick. after a.reboot i get a vlack screen. i turn my device into recorvery tool and push OPTION #5! but in tutorial i read that it brick my phone. after than, i use OPTION #1 (RESET). my phone is booting. but from begin this time, i have only trouble with it | 02:13 |
| CvP_ | sry for my bad english :) | 02:13 |
| Turski | chem|st: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-February/003321.html | 02:13 |
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| CvP_ | https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202208763-How-do-I-use-the-Recovery-Mode- | 02:18 |
| chem|st | CvP_: you probably destroyed parts of the recovery img -> care | 02:18 |
| chem|st | Turski: lol yeah fits | 02:19 |
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| CvP_ | hmmm | 02:20 |
| chem|st | CvP_: no idea what happens when #5 goes wrong, but if your devices is playing games with you after that, you probably caused some damage so better send a mail to care asking for help | 02:21 |
| CvP_ | i will do that | 02:22 |
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| Stskeeps | moo timeless | 11:47 |
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| mihlit_ | hi, is there any api available for changing and/or reloading an ambience? | 13:07 |
| stephg | can't remember if it can be done by dbus or not mihlit_ | 13:08 |
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| M4rtinK | mihlit_: https://openrepos.net/content/schturman/auto-ambience-changer | 13:12 |
| M4rtinK | mihlit_: so it works somehow :) | 13:13 |
| mihlit_ | stephg, M4rtinK: thanks | 13:13 |
| M4rtinK | mihlit_: not sure where the source code for this is, but I've also found this: | 13:14 |
| M4rtinK | https://github.com/sailfishapps/sailfishsdk-ambiance-changer | 13:14 |
| M4rtinK | not sure how outdated it is | 13:14 |
| M4rtinK | also this: | 13:16 |
| M4rtinK | https://together.jolla.com/question/51602/api-discussion-ambience-dbus-api/ | 13:16 |
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| ulvus | Hi og davs fra herning, denmark | 15:03 |
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| soreau | Stskeeps: Exceed the speed of light by standing still. Impossible? Or is it that the world is spinning past you so fast? | 15:19 |
| soreau | Stskeeps: (Hi :-) | 15:19 |
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| ulvus | Back | 15:40 |
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| coderus | hey | 16:15 |
| coderus | anyone have full-size ambience template from here: http://www.jollausers.com/2013/12/how-to-make-ambiance-wallpapers-for-sailfish-bonus/#prettyPhoto | 16:16 |
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| stephg | coderus: how do you mean? | 17:35 |
| stephg | kimmoli and I knocked this together: https://github.com/kimmoli/qtcreator-ambience-wizard | 17:35 |
| coderus | i mean template image | 17:41 |
| stephg | just take the one from there? they're 540x1600? | 17:44 |
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| coderus | just click the link please and check what i want | 18:03 |
| coderus | why not to do it already and stop asking questions? | 18:03 |
| Nicd- | coderus: you mean this? https://www.dropbox.com/s/34wfho11n3yo5ir/jolla-ambience-image-template.png | 18:05 |
| stephg | coderus, I clicked the link | 18:05 |
| stephg | I saw the image | 18:05 |
| stephg | this is the image: | 18:05 |
| stephg | http://www.jollausers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/jolla-ambience-image-template.png | 18:05 |
| stephg | you can download it, and it's those sizes | 18:06 |
| stephg | those dimensions I mean | 18:06 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: yes, thank you! :) | 18:25 |
| Nicd- | the one stephg linked is the correct size | 18:25 |
| coderus | okay :) | 18:25 |
| Nicd- | but you could also just take the smaller one and stretch it in a photo editor :P | 18:26 |
| coderus | thanks :) | 18:27 |
| coderus | i'm sorry if i too rude. i just cracked my laptop screen :D | 18:28 |
| stephg | yikes, sorry to hear that coderus | 18:28 |
| stephg | hope the crack is a small one, in a corner, that noone will notice | 18:29 |
| kimmoli | https://twitter.com/iCODeRUS/status/541646475013664768/photo/1 | 18:31 |
| stephg | ouch, but it could be worse | 18:33 |
| stephg | kde though, good boy :) | 18:33 |
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| r0kk3rz | it'll slowly get worse like mine did | 18:37 |
| r0kk3rz | till eventually screen all white | 18:38 |
| r0kk3rz | then new laptop time | 18:38 |
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| Toxip | hello everyone :) | 20:31 |
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| R-Z | hi there | 20:32 |
| sledges | hoy | 20:35 |
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| zurd | Hi, I have a silly question about Silica TextSwitch - is it normal that when I create a dummy TextSwitch it lacks round indicator on the left? | 21:55 |
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| coderus | what you mean dummy? | 22:14 |
| coderus | did you set it width? | 22:14 |
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| zurd | Dummy means it does not do anything useful. I set width to it's container, SilicaFlickable | 22:16 |
| zurd | Here is the code - http://pastebin.com/TKMPwcxS | 22:18 |
| coderus | show screenshot also | 22:19 |
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| zurd | Ok, let me start emulator | 22:19 |
| coderus | i mean set TextSwitch.width: parent.width | 22:19 |
| zurd | https://www.dropbox.com/s/cuvftohf687hpuw/1.png?dl=0 - here is screenshot | 22:22 |
| zurd | setting width: parent.width did not help | 22:23 |
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| coderus | zurd: ah its emulator | 22:32 |
| coderus | so everything working fine :) | 22:32 |
| coderus | try starting app with invoker | 22:32 |
| coderus | invoker --type=silica-qt5 appname | 22:32 |
| coderus | it will work on device fine | 22:32 |
| zurd | When I deployed it on device it run same way | 22:33 |
| zurd | I will try invoker, thank you | 22:33 |
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| zurd | Yes, it worked | 22:35 |
| zurd | Thank you very much | 22:35 |
| zurd | The only question I have now is why components demo worked fine without invoker | 22:36 |
| coderus | no idea :) | 22:41 |
| coderus | some environment variables hardcoded or so :) | 22:41 |
| zurd | Heh, probably. Thank you very much, now I can go to sleep without thinking what did I do wrong) Good night. | 22:42 |
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