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| Claudy | meow\ | 02:45 |
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| Claudy | idk if anyone could help me, though; is there a way i can export the database with SMS messages in a readable format ? | 02:46 |
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| TemeV | Isn't the SMSs in sqlite database? You can export anything from there | 06:15 |
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| sandsmark | there's also some script on together iirc | 06:16 |
| sandsmark | try googling | 06:16 |
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| Claudy | yeah | 07:10 |
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| ulvus | Morning from dk | 08:29 |
| Armadillo | morning back from de ;) | 08:31 |
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| daitheflu | morning ! | 08:33 |
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| Armadillo | daitheflu already sent your code online? :) | 08:36 |
| ulvus | Thx much be same timezone Armadillo ! And hi daitheflu | 08:37 |
| daitheflu | Armadillo: nope, sadly. I'll try to do this later today but I don't promise anything | 08:38 |
| Armadillo | :) | 08:39 |
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| daitheflu | Armadillo: I have to figure out how to install git on the mac I'm working on | 08:42 |
| daitheflu | Armadillo: then set it up | 08:42 |
| daitheflu | etc... | 08:43 |
| Nicd- | daitheflu: http://git-scm.com/downloads -- there's also SourceTree if you want a nice GUI | 08:44 |
| ulvus | Can i give some free advice if it general links and screencast you miss daitheflu | 08:45 |
| meklu | git's much nicer on the CLI | 08:45 |
| ulvus | Or advice =links | 08:45 |
| meklu | GUIs are a bunch of newage nonsense ;) | 08:45 |
| daitheflu | Nicd-: thanks, it's waaaay much easier than the last time I checked :D | 08:45 |
| daitheflu | ulvus: sure, please do | 08:46 |
| Nicd- | meklu: except when you want to see the status of various branches at a glance | 08:46 |
| Nicd- | though gitk is ok for that too | 08:46 |
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| ulvus | Dont hope i broke some irc rules with link | 08:47 |
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| meklu | Nicd-: git log --all or something | 08:47 |
| meklu | although I have some neat lg alias that formats things nicely | 08:48 |
| meklu | https://meklu.org/cfg/.githelper | 08:48 |
| Nicd- | yeah, I know that | 08:48 |
| Nicd- | I still prefer gitk | 08:48 |
| meklu | D: | 08:49 |
| meklu | whatever floats your boat :) | 08:49 |
| ulvus | https://www.udemy.com/courses/search/?q=git | 08:49 |
| ulvus | Udemy or teacher often give coupon or nice price | 08:50 |
| ulvus | http://www.codecademy.com/blog/74-getting-started-with-git | 08:53 |
| daitheflu | ulvus: thanks, I'll check it. I sometimes use git, but alone, with a drafty workflow. Taking a course could be smart for me | 08:54 |
| ulvus | http://sourceforge.net/projects/git-osx-installer/ | 08:54 |
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| ulvus | I use windows but are google a lot, but have to say, git and github is a projekt i have to start on next year. So if you get it to work or reviews on git learning and use i like to hear about it. | 08:57 |
| meklu | RTFM is the only course you'll ever need ;) | 08:58 |
| daitheflu | ulvus: I will do :) | 08:58 |
| ulvus | Meklu heh | 08:58 |
| ulvus | https://www.codeschool.com/paths/git | 08:58 |
| daitheflu | meklu: warrior :P | 08:59 |
| ulvus | Its a useful tip meklu | 08:59 |
| ulvus | Read the f manual heh | 08:59 |
| meklu | it's useful to read manuals :D | 08:59 |
| ulvus | Yeah | 09:00 |
| ulvus | Can i get sailfish 2.0 manual oh rofl | 09:00 |
| ulvus | And jolla tablet and jolla phone 2 manual lol | 09:01 |
| Nicd- | what does that have to do with anything? | 09:01 |
| ulvus | https://github.com | 09:02 |
| ulvus | Rofl reading manual on things before its developed lol | 09:03 |
| ulvus | I cant | 09:03 |
| ulvus | Last https://training.github.com | 09:04 |
| ulvus | daitheflu: just read and search google and try and use | 09:06 |
| SK_work | the octo cat :) | 09:06 |
| SK_work | that's pretty good https://try.github.io/ | 09:06 |
| SK_work | with a nice octocat as teacher | 09:07 |
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| ulvus | Thx SK_work | 09:08 |
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| ulvus | I have found that i can funded or crowdfund sailfish developer, because i not a dev self, more a windows super user nerd, and internet and router thing | 09:12 |
| ulvus | But have look at code.org and hourofcode,and other coding site | 09:13 |
| SK_work | ulvus: being a windows nerd lead me to use linux and then become a dev | 09:14 |
| SK_work | maybe it is the official path ? :D | 09:14 |
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| ulvus | Yes, but i dont think there are one only path. http://www.codenewbie.org/podcast | 09:16 |
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| ulvus | I have learnt and tryed out windows and hardware with Stskeeps and another have learn him pascal and delphi, and he have used it together with hard work and learning and community and so to make a life with tech and sailfish os and jolla, and dev | 09:20 |
| ulvus | And his education and new stuff he have learn | 09:21 |
| ulvus | :-) | 09:22 |
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| ulvus | And linux | 09:23 |
| ulvus | Unix | 09:23 |
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| m4g0g | Hi! I want to cache avatars in my appllication. Id it normal behavior for mobile app? | 09:31 |
| m4g0g | Is* | 09:31 |
| Armadillo | normal behaviour to cache avatars? | 09:31 |
| meklu | I'd say that's pretty normal in my experience | 09:31 |
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| Armadillo | m4g0g if you're retrieving the avatars via HTTP you could have a look into the cache headers and invalidate the cached items after the caching period is over | 09:37 |
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| m4g0g | Armadillo: yep, by url. | 09:38 |
| anYc | for a GIT introduction I can also recommend http://git-scm.com/book/en/v2 | 09:41 |
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| coderus | for mobile app it's notmal to cache everything :) | 09:43 |
| coderus | normal* | 09:43 |
| ulvus | Hi | 09:43 |
| ulvus | Coderus | 09:43 |
| coderus | hello | 09:44 |
| meklu | it would be quite cool if you were to do actual GETs but pause them until you're sure your cache doesn't match it | 09:44 |
| meklu | but I guess ETags are easier :) | 09:45 |
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| ulvus | Coderus, i see on indigo that we can buy / crowdfunded you free too code a hour on sailfish os app, for a | 09:50 |
| ulvus | 4 euro hour | 09:50 |
| lbt | SK_work: can you explain: "Partner-enabled applications are simple Sailfish OS applications, where a specific flag has been set on their main window. " | 09:50 |
| ulvus | Thats cheap if correct | 09:50 |
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| SK_work | lbt: yes | 09:52 |
| lbt | ty :) | 09:52 |
| lbt | nb ... I'm launching an app | 09:52 |
| SK_work | lbt: partnerspace is the left ambience tray | 09:53 |
| SK_work | if you don't know about it | 09:53 |
| SK_work | it is the compositor's duty to put app here | 09:53 |
| lbt | I installed it and it kinda works, appears in settings, launches app | 09:53 |
| lbt | but it appears as a normal app | 09:53 |
| lbt | so I guess this is like the X window properties ? | 09:53 |
| SK_work | so you need to tell the compositor to put it here. So you set a flag "I'm a partner app" in the app's code | 09:54 |
| SK_work | lbt: what are you trying to do ATM ? | 09:54 |
| SK_work | the settings in partner-space thing ? | 09:54 |
| lbt | no - that works | 09:54 |
| lbt | who sets the flag ? | 09:54 |
| lbt | partnerspace mgr or the app code ? | 09:54 |
| lbt | in X the window mgr can set properties on other apps afaik | 09:54 |
| lbt | so wasn't sure where the flag is set | 09:55 |
| lbt | https://github.com/sailfishos-patches/partnerspacemanager/blob/master/src/bin/partnerspacemanager-launcher/main.cpp#L59 ? | 09:56 |
| SK_work | lbt: yes it's there | 10:00 |
| SK_work | I invoke a QML only app with this launcher | 10:01 |
| lbt | I'm using the 'launcher': method | 10:01 |
| lbt | so I assume I'll need to set that in my C++ code ? | 10:01 |
| SK_work | lbt: yes, just copy thios line is enough | 10:01 |
| lbt | cool - I'll see about a PR for the docs then :) | 10:01 |
| chem|st | dr_gogeta86: word is, vpnc is for EOL hardware, you are better off asking for openconnect, it uses vpnc-script to support the EOL hardware but cisco has gone "anyconnect" | 10:02 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | chem|st, i'm using it right now | 10:02 |
| dr_gogeta86 | that's all | 10:02 |
| dr_gogeta86 | without guy just because I can | 10:02 |
| chem|st | ah ok | 10:02 |
| chem|st | so it is working? | 10:02 |
| chem|st | good to know | 10:03 |
| dr_gogeta86 | as root to | 10:03 |
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| chem|st | ouch | 10:03 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i need to create a simple guys with daemon | 10:03 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | i don't wanna mess with connmann | 10:03 |
| chem|st | "gui" | 10:03 |
| chem|st | guy is a dude, person | 10:03 |
| dr_gogeta86 | *gui | 10:04 |
| dr_gogeta86 | f* autocorrector | 10:04 |
| chem|st | hehe | 10:06 |
| chem|st | dr_gogeta86: it would be more interesting to have openconnect+gui | 10:07 |
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| coderus | ulvus: you understand not correct :) | 10:13 |
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| coderus | 4 euro/hour is was my old job | 10:13 |
| coderus | at crowd funding you can: ask for more features in my apps or hire me for 2000 euros for any app you need :) | 10:14 |
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| anYc | anyone has an idea what to do if the "signing in" in the jolla shop spins forever? I can't close the app and try it again. | 10:16 |
| coderus | anYc: check journalcts first | 10:17 |
| coderus | if there some errors | 10:17 |
| coderus | journalctl* | 10:17 |
| coderus | and then try to remove account and create it again | 10:17 |
| coderus | this actions helps in 95% | 10:17 |
| anYc | ok thx | 10:18 |
| dr_gogeta86 | moo coderus | 10:18 |
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| coderus | (__) | 10:18 |
| coderus | (oo) | 10:18 |
| coderus | /------\/ | 10:18 |
| coderus | / | || | 10:18 |
| coderus | * /\---/\ | 10:18 |
| coderus | ~~ ~~ | 10:19 |
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| SK_work | coderus: have you mooed today ? | 10:23 |
| stephg | m00! | 10:24 |
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| ilpianista | anyone working on a Tox client already? | 10:27 |
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| Toxip | ilpianista: +1 | 10:30 |
| coderus | SK_work: moo | 10:33 |
| meklu | emerge --moo | 10:34 |
| anYc | great, now the shops says "cannot connect" -.- | 10:35 |
| anYc | coderus: creating again helped, thanks | 10:36 |
| anYc | I can browse the web but the shop cannot connect | 10:36 |
| coderus | ancient bugs need ancient methods :) | 10:36 |
| anYc | unbelievable... over 3g it seems to connect but then it says "loading apps" and the traffic indicator remains inactive | 10:41 |
| anYc | maybe I should turn it off and on again | 10:42 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | coderus, wa is even worse | 11:00 |
| dr_gogeta86 | same version of mitakuuluu | 11:00 |
| dr_gogeta86 | on two number different response :-D | 11:00 |
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| Toxip | Is it possible to use SVG images in QML? I tried some plugin but I couldn't get it to work :/ | 12:37 |
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| Toxip | oh nvm, qt5-qtsvg-plugin-imageformat-svg is now allowed in harbour :) | 12:39 |
| tbr | Toxip: well, if they want a scaleable UI, they might want to consider this | 12:41 |
| meklu | wasn't SFOS 2.0 slated to have scalable icons and stuff? | 12:43 |
| tbr | meklu: yes, but that's all now in development, so it will happen until 2.0 :) | 12:44 |
| meklu | :) | 12:44 |
| meklu | hmm, should probably dust off Inkscape at some point then | 12:45 |
| meklu | or just hand-code it with SVG as usual | 12:45 |
| Toxip | so I guess we will be able to use SVG images out of the box then? | 12:45 |
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| Toxip | Inkscape is what I use :) | 12:45 |
| meklu | but that might be a bit more difficult, what with the squiggle I drew in Inkscape that I rotated a bit for my icon | 12:45 |
| meklu | my guess is that it'll start trying to use /usr/share/icons/scalable/ in the future before the bitmap variants | 12:46 |
| Toxip | but for now I'll just have to use pngs... I've made all the graphics for my app with Inkscape so I can switch to SVG anytime :) | 12:51 |
| Armadillo | clever decision :) | 12:53 |
| Toxip | Armadillo: Yeah, always have to think ahead ;) | 12:55 |
| Armadillo | sure :) | 12:56 |
| Armadillo | they already stated something about scalability on the dev mailing list some days ago | 12:56 |
| Armadillo | so this is already in the works | 12:56 |
| Toxip | yep, I heard that :) | 12:57 |
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| ulvus | hi sallfish | 15:24 |
| SK_work | hi ulvus | 15:25 |
| ulvus | hi | 15:27 |
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| coderus | btw, who is responsible for sdk nowadays? tigeli? | 15:45 |
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| tigeli | coderus: not me.. but developer-care should be able.to help | 16:05 |
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| coderus | tigeli: no questions to help | 16:07 |
| coderus | just want to know who is making SDK :) | 16:08 |
| Hartzi | top secret | 16:08 |
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| Toxip | I have two nested listviews but the inner one steals all interaction... I found several ways to counter this: one was to put a flickable on top of it all and make that interact with the bottom most list. another one is to use a higher z value on the bottom listview... but what is the best way to do this? | 18:33 |
| Toxip | both of these seem very weird solutions | 18:34 |
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| Toxip | this is what I found https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7832632/horizontal-listview-inside-vertical-listview-in-qml | 18:37 |
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| coderus | Toxip: you have ListView inside ListView?.. | 18:39 |
| Toxip | yes, is this bad? :D | 18:40 |
| coderus | set different pressDelay | 18:40 |
| coderus | outer 100 | 18:40 |
| coderus | inner 0 | 18:40 |
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| coderus | should work | 18:40 |
| coderus | but both 0 should work also | 18:40 |
| coderus | better is use Flickable with Row with Repeater in this way imo | 18:40 |
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| Toxip | I want to put 4 rectangles which all have different colors... I can't use repeater for that, can I? | 18:43 |
| coderus | you can | 18:45 |
| coderus | repeater is rust repeater | 18:45 |
| Armadillo | use a listmodel for the repeater, tere you can set 4 listitems with 4 different color attributes | 18:45 |
| coderus | it desnt care what to put in | 18:45 |
| Toxip | I see, I have a lot to learn :) | 18:45 |
| * Toxip heads back to Qt documentation | 18:46 | |
| Armadillo | https://github.com/Armadill0/harbour-tasklist/blob/master/qml/pages/AboutPage.qml#L35 | 18:47 |
| Armadillo | define your list like that | 18:47 |
| Armadillo | and use it like that: https://github.com/Armadill0/harbour-tasklist/blob/master/qml/pages/AboutPage.qml#L130 | 18:48 |
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| Armadillo | but be aware, that you can not use scriptings with variables within ListElement items | 18:50 |
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| Armadillo | that is first possible in QT5.4, but there are other ways to populate lists if you want/need to user variables | 18:51 |
| Armadillo | s/user/use/ | 18:51 |
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| Toxip | Armadillo: I'm well aware of that and in fact asked you guys about it earlier today :) | 18:53 |
| Armadillo | oh sorry :D | 18:54 |
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| ulvus | hi. | 19:35 |
| suy | Armadillo: what did you meant with "use scriptings with variables within ListElement items"? | 19:36 |
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| coderus | suy: ListItem accept only static data | 20:36 |
| coderus | not scripting | 20:36 |
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| suy | coderus: ok, thanks. | 21:12 |
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| coderus | ListElement* | 21:45 |
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| RavenholmDX | Just released my app on OpenRepos | 23:01 |
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