| salyavin | Thus all LAS Android app picks. | 00:01 |
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| sledges | aironeous: it's not LAS that's online now, looks like Linux Unplugged | 00:01 |
| aironeous | oh ok | 00:01 |
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| M4rtinK | posted the link on twitter :) | 00:04 |
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| aironeous | metrolink machine ate my $200 for monthly pass, ignored the last $20 bill and gave me a $180 refund voucher. It will take one month to get my money back. That means the money I was going to use for the Jolla tablet on my next paycheck on Dec 5th will go instead to a monthly pass | 00:09 |
| aironeous | i lit them up on twitter for that. I really wanted to contribute to the Jolla tablet campaign | 00:10 |
| sledges | salyavin: yes, times have changed significantly with Android age; also the presence of many Windows-only ways to unlock android phones on XDA show that even hackers use windows, not many even know what Linux desktop distro is.. | 00:11 |
| sledges | M4rtinK: RTed\o/ | 00:12 |
| sledges | aironeous: ouch sorry to hear, let's hope campaign will be extended, especially for you :) | 00:12 |
| M4rtinK | slate: thanks :) | 00:13 |
| aironeous | I am very mad at Metrolink and made it very clear a number of times on Twitter | 00:13 |
| sledges | aironeous: thanks to you we found out one of their hosts is using Sailfish on his Nexus5 ;) | 00:13 |
| M4rtinK | aironeous: wow, that's pretty expensive for a monthly pass | 00:13 |
| M4rtinK | aironeous: the yearly pass around here costs about 200$ | 00:13 |
| aironeous | it's $215 from Oxnard to Moorpark and back | 00:13 |
| M4rtinK | and it is for the whole city | 00:14 |
| aironeous | unlimited travel on the weekend\ | 00:14 |
| M4rtinK | and if you have the yearly pass you can take another adult person and two kinds with you on weekends and holidays | 00:15 |
| aironeous | i hope there is a way I can preorder later or cross my fingers my company gives me a christmas bonus | 00:15 |
| M4rtinK | but we don't actually have any metro, just trams, buses and trolley buses | 00:15 |
| aironeous | wow M4tink that is cheap | 00:15 |
| M4rtinK | well, I would say it could be cheaper :) | 00:16 |
| aironeous | i don't see why the Jolla Tablet can't put a WYSIPS panel as a stretch goal since the battery is so small | 00:17 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, students pay half as much but don't have that take-others-with-you-on-weekends/holidays perk | 00:17 |
| aironeous | that would charge the battery and not require extensive rearranging of the insides | 00:17 |
| M4rtinK | probably too new/expensive ? | 00:17 |
| M4rtinK | or might not sell to them in smaller volume | 00:18 |
| aironeous | they have an office in China | 00:18 |
| M4rtinK | could be other factors | 00:18 |
| M4rtinK | I'd rather see wacom/active pen support: https://together.jolla.com/question/63876/request-jolla-tablet-wacom-digitizer-active-pen-support/ | 00:18 |
| aironeous | they are doing small volume right now and will ramp up in August 2015 | 00:18 |
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| M4rtinK | I can still charge it or keep it plugged in | 00:19 |
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| M4rtinK | but can't make it magically accept precise pen input with pressure sensing :) | 00:19 |
| aironeous | but with a WYSIPS panel it just chrages itself and what do you do all the time with a tablet? You lay it down on a table in from of the lights | 00:19 |
| M4rtinK | but still quite an interesting technology, that is for sure :) | 00:20 |
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| aironeous | imagine Jolla tablet has a WYSIPS panel and also a tiny LiFi sensor | 00:22 |
| aironeous | or maybe I should have phrased that differently | 00:23 |
| salyavin | That makes me sad sledge | 00:23 |
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| aironeous | WYSIPS can act as LiFi receiver | 00:24 |
| M4rtinK | actually even having a simple powerful infraport would be nice :) | 00:24 |
| M4rtinK | wow, that's actually pretty clever :) | 00:24 |
| aironeous | for me it is a compete no brainer you lay your tablet on the tablet on surfaces all the time where it can soak up energy and also receive LiFi | 00:25 |
| aironeous | Ooops mistyped | 00:25 |
| sledges | salyavin: tell me about it.. but can't blame anyone - school youth with time on their hands and only hackable droids around, what do you do :) if not libhybris, don't even want to think 8) | 00:25 |
| sledges | if we would have many feasible alternatives | 00:26 |
| salyavin | Yea even Ubuntu Touch has to use libhybris on most hardware. | 00:26 |
| salyavin | If only Ubuntu Touch would multitask like Sailfish instead of iOS it would be more fun. | 00:27 |
| sledges | linux tried to find its way to consumer devices all this time, yet in embedded systems world it has no troubles thriving | 00:27 |
| aironeous | http://sunpartnertechnologies.com/ WYSIPS website let me try to find the youtube video of the WYSIPS using LiFi | 00:28 |
| salyavin | Yea it's in my TV, blu-Ray, DVR, most of the world's phones | 00:29 |
| sledges | so all of us GNU desktop users and embeded board BSP tinkerers come from different times/background if compared to the xda youth, serious trend-setting is in order :P | 00:29 |
| aironeous | wysips LiFi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srB_VN4sb50 | 00:29 |
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| sledges | salyavin: still not talking about android ;) but yea, times of TI OMAP, Freescale, Xilinx, ... all had GNU/Linux SDKs. TI withdrew, others switch to Yocto, but main trend is, sadly, Android | 00:30 |
| aironeous | wiat this one is better | 00:30 |
| aironeous | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ESQhmJkWm4 | 00:30 |
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| salyavin | Android has a clunky interface and doesn't multitask well. Most try to lock it down. Not a full normal "Linux" (or GNU if you like) environment etc. | 00:31 |
| salyavin | and most carriers don't give more than a few updates and leave them hanging. | 00:32 |
| sledges | bitrotting:) (new word learned recently) | 00:32 |
| salyavin | Lack of updates are sad, like asking to have their customer's phones p0wned | 00:33 |
| salyavin | or tablets | 00:33 |
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| M4rtinK | BTW, about XDA youths | 00:34 |
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| M4rtinK | anybody remembers what XDA actually stands for ? :) | 00:34 |
| sledges | i guess not for cross-(platform)-development-android :D | 00:35 |
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| M4rtinK | nope, it is actually quite older than Android :) | 00:36 |
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| aironeous | i remember when Android was just a suggestion and a play thing | 00:36 |
| M4rtinK | it used to be a site for tweaking the Windows Mobile 5.0 running MDA phone/PDAs | 00:36 |
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| M4rtinK | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_MDA | 00:37 |
| sledges | lol | 00:37 |
| M4rtinK | released ~2005 | 00:37 |
| aironeous | i remember trying it out on my desktop | 00:37 |
| salyavin | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409372 | 00:37 |
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| M4rtinK | I remember a friend with MDA showing the that website back then :) | 00:37 |
| aironeous | i can't remember I sighned up for some kind of group to try it out | 00:37 |
| aironeous | ca'nt remember the name it was something like droid me or something like that | 00:38 |
| salyavin | Cool. My first mobile phone was an N900. I carried Nokia internet tablet (on wi-fi SIP) and Sharp Zaurus for mobile computing before that. | 00:38 |
| M4rtinK | I was of course a Palm OS user back then :) | 00:38 |
| M4rtinK | I had the original Tungsten T, then Palm TX | 00:39 |
| sledges | linux on HP iPAQ H1930 is how i got into all this.. | 00:39 |
| * Aard had treo 270, treo 680 and finally centro until 2010 | 00:39 | |
| sledges | no way back:) | 00:39 |
| M4rtinK | also had the Smart Q7 tablet (slowly) running Ubuntu for some time, helping testing (the original!) Mer releases :) | 00:40 |
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| salyavin | Linux came out when I was in uni when I was searching for a free UNIX to play with as I was programming on early AIX | 00:40 |
| FireFly | My first mobile phone was a Siemens MC60... after that a bunch of Nokias culminating in the N900 | 00:40 |
| M4rtinK | and then directly to N900 in 2010 | 00:40 |
| M4rtinK | and the rest is history :) | 00:40 |
| sledges | and ofc OpenMoko | 00:40 |
| * Aard got his n900 (which was my first own nokia phone) from nokia while working on meego | 00:40 | |
| M4rtinK | BTW, I still carry my 6610i as my main mobile phone for calling :) | 00:40 |
| M4rtinK | oh, right I also had a FreeRunner | 00:41 |
| salyavin | Awesome, I never got one of those but appreciate what they were trying to do. | 00:41 |
| M4rtinK | lent from school for my bachelors thesis (modRana :) ) | 00:41 |
| salyavin | Not sure how far the Neo900 will get | 00:41 |
| sledges | like someone said, all failed linux phones are the result of where we are now | 00:42 |
| M4rtinK | btw, one of the very few FreeRunners that got the navigation board installed | 00:42 |
| sledges | so -nothing- was in vain | 00:42 |
| M4rtinK | pressure, sensor, gyroscpope, magnetic compass, additional I/O... :) | 00:42 |
| salyavin | N900 was so amazing. | 00:42 |
| aironeous | should have kept my N900 back then one of my coworkers had my phone for hours playing numpty physics for a few weeks in a row he could not put it down | 00:42 |
| sledges | numpty physics ftw!! | 00:43 |
| salyavin | You can still buy them you know | 00:43 |
| M4rtinK | actually the initial version of Rana (before I forked it to modRana) was developed for the FreeRunner :) | 00:43 |
| M4rtinK | so without OpenMoko, there might not have been any modRana! :) | 00:43 |
| aironeous | resistive screen made for a better numpty physics experience | 00:44 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, Numpty Physics ran quite nicely also on the FeeRunner - and Moko Maze as well! :) | 00:44 |
| aironeous | ok | 00:44 |
| sledges | ^ is where i found out about np | 00:44 |
| M4rtinK | but now the FreeRunner development seems to be really dead at least | 00:45 |
| M4rtinK | even QtMoko seem to be in a limbo: http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/ | 00:45 |
| sledges | well | 00:45 |
| sledges | GTA04->neo900 | 00:45 |
| aironeous | ok well now we are at the age of VR anyone got a VR headset like I do? Can someone with a Jolla run an Android VR app and tell me if it works? | 00:45 |
| aironeous | I have this headset Link: http://amzn.com/B00OPWSNFI and a HTC One | 00:47 |
| salyavin | Maybe you should make Jolla glasses | 00:47 |
| sledges | ..TOH | 00:47 |
| aironeous | there are tooo tooo many VR start ups Fibrum, Cmoar a bunch of them | 00:47 |
| sledges | and a piece of carton paper:) | 00:47 |
| salyavin | wow had no idea they are so cheap | 00:47 |
| sledges | salyavin: google cardboard version ;) | 00:48 |
| sledges | plastic costs extra $30 ;) | 00:48 |
| aironeous | the CMOAR campaign failed but I feel it was/is the best one as it has one headset 3 sets of lenses, VR, AR, 2D widescreen movie watching | 00:49 |
| salyavin | This item does not have the Magnet Parts so it can not control like the Google Cardboard 3D. But you can use this item view 3D movie and 3D game on your cellphone. | 00:49 |
| salyavin | aha you're not joking | 00:49 |
| aironeous | i do not think the magnet is practical | 00:49 |
| aironeous | it does not work on my HTC One because of the metal housing i"m guessing | 00:50 |
| aironeous | a gamepad like the moga is much better and I have played a number of games using it and the VR headset it is really immersive | 00:50 |
| aironeous | i had to tape some pupple wrap to the nose piece on my VR headset because I have a big nose | 00:52 |
| aironeous | wait let me take a picture and upload it to photobucket | 00:53 |
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| aironeous | This is the Moga gamepad I use with the HTC One http://amzn.com/B00FB5R9OY I am wondering if it will work with the next Jolla phone and a VR headset and a VR Android app | 00:59 |
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| aironeous | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h204/gbbaker/IMAG1144_zpsmw5dkxpb.jpg taped cushion to the nose area | 01:01 |
| aironeous | there are a few games that are quite immersive and fun on the VR headset and an Android phone so I am wanting to share them with Jolla phone owners | 01:04 |
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| aironeous | Since Jolla owners can run Android games here are some VR game suggestions and tell me if any of these work on your jolla Vanguard V https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ZeroTransform.VanguardV | 01:06 |
| aironeous | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fibrum.zombievr | 01:07 |
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| sledges | aironeous: I can suggest you to start a topic on http://together.jolla.com where you could get answers of those interested regardless of their timezones | 01:08 |
| aironeous | Froggy VR (Multiplayer yes seriously) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fibrum.froggyvr | 01:09 |
| aironeous | oh good suggestion I will | 01:09 |
| sledges | great! | 01:09 |
| sledges | also good opportinity to create a jolla account if you haven't one yet;) | 01:09 |
| aironeous | i have one | 01:09 |
| sledges | +1 | 01:09 |
| sledges | from sailfish on android devices project;) | 01:10 |
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| aironeous | i had a N900 an N9 an N95 8GB and an N810 I am a fan of this line of linux creativity | 01:10 |
| aironeous | oh yeah and an n8 | 01:10 |
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| aironeous | ok bye then | 01:11 |
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| aironeous | jupiter broadcasting has started a new show just for women in tech called women's tech radio please ask Carol and any other females in Jolla willing to volunteer for an interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVXElEj6YZc | 03:23 |
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| salyavin | You can ewach Carol easily yourself | 03:26 |
| aironeous | i already tweeted her but don't know the other females of Jolla | 03:30 |
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| salyavin | Fprgot jer name but another is listed on sailfish.org under community I think. | 03:36 |
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| salyavin | sailfishos.org | 03:39 |
| salyavin | Iekku | 03:39 |
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| aironeous | <salyavin> ok tweetiing her now | 03:42 |
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| iekku | :) | 06:59 |
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| K4-t | :) | 07:00 |
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| m4g0g | hi | 07:24 |
| m4g0g | I use Text to display rich text. | 07:25 |
| m4g0g | I have this part of text: | 07:25 |
| m4g0g | <ul style="list-style: none;font-size: 12px;"><li> <!--noindex--><a rel='nofollow' class="colorbox" title="" href="http://sdelanounas.ru/i/b/w/f/f_bWFnYWRhbi5lci5ydS9tZWRpYS91c2VyZGF0YS9uZXdzLzIwMTMvMDcvMjUvNjA3OThiZGFkMTE1YzBkZjIzNDUzMTg2YjNjOTNlNzUuanBnP19faWQ9NTQ3ODk=.jpeg" ><img src="http://sdelanounas.ru/i/b/w/f/bWFnYWRhbi5lci5ydS9tZWRpYS91c2VyZGF0YS9uZXdzLzIwMTMvMDcvMjUvNjA3OThiZGFkMTE1YzBkZjIzNDUzMTg2YjNjOTNlNzUuanBnP19faWQ9NTQ3ODk=.jpg" width=" | 07:25 |
| m4g0g | <ul style="list-style: none;font-size: 12px;"><li> <!--noindex--><a rel='nofollow' class="colorbox" title="" href="http://sdelanounas.ru/i/b/w/f/f_bWFnYWRhbi5lci5ydS9tZWRpYS91c2VyZGF0YS9uZXdzLzIwMTMvMDcvMjUvNjA3OThiZGFkMTE1YzBkZjIzNDUzMTg2YjNjOTNlNzUuanBnP19faWQ9NTQ3ODk=.jpeg" ><img src="http://sdelanounas.ru/i/b/w/f/bWFnYWRhbi5lci5ydS9tZWRpYS91c2VyZGF0YS9uZXdzLzIwMTMvMDcvMjUvNjA3OThiZGFkMTE1YzBkZjIzNDUzMTg2YjNjOTNlNzUuanBnP19faWQ9NTQ3ODk=.jpg" width=" | 07:26 |
| m4g0g | http://codepad.org/v9kgmmHV - this part of text | 07:26 |
| m4g0g | but Text draw this picture over text and this image covers part of item. Why? How to fix position of the image? | 07:27 |
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| m4g0g | it shows like this: http://dump.bitcheese.net/images/amygimy/3.png | 07:31 |
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| stephg | morning | 08:33 |
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| coderus | moo | 08:38 |
| coderus | (have you mooed today?) | 08:38 |
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| gogeta | morning coderus | 08:40 |
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| stephg | coderus: not yet! | 08:43 |
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| coderus | m4g0g: use webview or parse html to lines | 08:58 |
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| Juuba | sooo, is there a solution to why the Sailfish loses "log in" to some services | 09:01 |
| Juuba | for me it's google | 09:01 |
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| Juuba | almost daily the Settings - Accounts says that Google "Not Signed In" | 09:02 |
| Juuba | emails still come thru tho' | 09:02 |
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| SK_work | chriadam: ^ | 09:05 |
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| Juuba | this seems to be similar... https://together.jolla.com/question/55032/facebook-logs-off-by-itself/ | 09:12 |
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| gogeta | hi SK_work | 09:58 |
| SK_work | morning gogeta | 09:59 |
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| gogeta | did you know the list with fixed header like ios or android addressbook ? | 10:00 |
| gogeta | http://i.stack.imgur.com/nUp9h.png | 10:00 |
| gogeta | an example | 10:00 |
| gogeta | there is something already done | 10:01 |
| gogeta | in qml or silica | 10:01 |
| gogeta | ? | 10:01 |
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| SK_work | gogeta: why would you do this :) | 10:03 |
| SK_work | (IMO) useless eye candy | 10:03 |
| SK_work | and no, no example :( | 10:03 |
| gogeta | tell to my gf | 10:03 |
| SK_work | lol | 10:03 |
| gogeta | sailgrande need that in some ways | 10:03 |
| SK_work | how come ? | 10:03 |
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| SK_work | in sailfish, there shouldn't be any fixed headers but well | 10:04 |
| SK_work | don't know how to do this at all :( | 10:04 |
| SK_work | sadly | 10:04 |
| SK_work | except huge hacks | 10:04 |
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| gogeta | in bb10 is pushed in tat listview | 10:04 |
| gogeta | and is pure qml | 10:04 |
| TemeV | Didn't mitäkuuluu have static header | 10:04 |
| TemeV | in the chat view | 10:05 |
| gogeta | while scrolling ? | 10:05 |
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| TemeV | yes, I think so | 10:05 |
| gogeta | is not the exsact thing | 10:05 |
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| SK_work | yep, it's not the exact same thing :( | 10:05 |
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| SK_work | the fact is that you need to know the section header component coordinates | 10:06 |
| SK_work | and btw, BB10 have their own components, not compatible with QtQuick | 10:06 |
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| TemeV | Oh, I missed the example pic. Yeah, not the same | 10:06 |
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| coderus | gogeta: listView.section.labelPositioning: ViewSection.CurrentLabelAtStart ? | 10:10 |
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| gogeta | i need to test | 10:11 |
| gogeta | coderus, lil ot you got 32inch lg ? | 10:11 |
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| coderus | ?? | 10:12 |
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| gogeta | your lg tv | 10:13 |
| coderus | i have 42 | 10:13 |
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| coderus | 42LB650V-ZE | 10:14 |
| gogeta | ze is for russian market ehehe | 10:15 |
| gogeta | 320 euros | 10:16 |
| gogeta | + shipping | 10:17 |
| gogeta | 32LB650V | 10:17 |
| gogeta | today is the third time i've lost folders in 2 month | 10:18 |
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| SK_work | coderus: didn't knew of this property (for sections) | 10:29 |
| SK_work | looks nice | 10:29 |
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| coderus | SK_work: qt5 feature :) | 10:52 |
| SK_work | coderus: yay | 10:52 |
| coderus | QtQuick 2.x | 10:52 |
| SK_work | my Qt 5 QML features is a bit rusty | 10:52 |
| SK_work | done too much harmattan | 10:52 |
| coderus | :D | 10:52 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 10:53 |
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| gogeta | finally tizen ... but on buget .. http://www.androidiani.com/news/samsung-z1-lo-smartphone-tizen-sara-presentato-il-10-dicembre-prezzo-inferiore-100-dollari-224921 | 12:07 |
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| erikn42 | hi, my new sd card just arrived. is the wiki article pn sd cards still up-to-date with the mount point being moved some versions ago? | 12:25 |
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| erikn42 | does it make sense to move /home to the sd card, or is it too much of a hassle? | 12:49 |
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| sandsmark | aren't SD-cards kind of slow? | 12:53 |
| sandsmark | at least compared to internal storage | 12:53 |
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| Stskeeps | it'll probably not happily boot up | 12:53 |
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| coderus | erikn42: why move home? | 13:04 |
| erikn42 | that have more space for music and pictures all neatly packed into my home | 13:05 |
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| coderus | why keeping music and pictures in home and not in sdcard directly? | 13:06 |
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| erikn42 | that's how i'd do it on all my other linux devices if they only had 16gig on root | 13:07 |
| erikn42 | apart from tjat i don't really see a reason | 13:08 |
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| erikn42 | how do i configure the media app. it can't set a library folder and ot wont find my music that i put onto home.. | 13:11 |
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| sandsmark | doesn't it find it? | 13:14 |
| sandsmark | I thought it used Tracker | 13:14 |
| sandsmark | which should index Everywhere(tm) | 13:14 |
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| erikn42 | i just noticed: something went wrong at the file transfer. jave to check again when I'm home from work | 13:21 |
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| Matzi | Okay... I have one newbie question about exit code 127. Does it mean that I must install additional packages on MerSDK build engine? Or am I completely lost... | 13:34 |
| SK_work | Matzi: what did you do ? | 13:35 |
| SK_work | isn't 127 failure to connect or something like that ? | 13:35 |
| SK_work | what's inside the app output console ? | 13:35 |
| Matzi | Tried to build project and it gives me "No such file or directory" -statement | 13:35 |
| Matzi | and remote application finished with exit code 127 | 13:36 |
| Matzi | https://sailfishos.org/wiki/SDK_Alpha_Qt5_Known_Issues | 13:36 |
| Matzi | There's said (end of the page) something about installing packages | 13:37 |
| SK_work | :( | 13:37 |
| SK_work | weired | 13:37 |
| Matzi | but does it mean that i should install those on build engine | 13:37 |
| Matzi | i'm trying to build this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92329 | 13:38 |
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| meklu | 127 means command not found | 13:40 |
| Matzi | hmm | 13:41 |
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| sandsmark | Matzi: why do you want to build it yourself? | 13:43 |
| Matzi | getting something to start with in my own project - i think that's the basic reason | 13:45 |
| sandsmark | file -> new? | 13:46 |
| sandsmark | and choose the project | 13:46 |
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| sandsmark | hmm, though that should be pretty straightforward | 13:47 |
| Matzi | i'm not so familiar with i2c so i thought that would be nice :P | 13:47 |
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| Matzi | sounded interesting concept and therefore i ordered jolla | 13:47 |
| Matzi | is there a tutorial for using i2c in sailfish os environment? | 13:49 |
| Matzi | or something like that | 13:49 |
| meklu | ping kimmoli ^ | 13:50 |
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| kimmoli | pong | 13:52 |
| kimmoli | Matzi: check the spec file EOL, CR/LF | 13:54 |
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| kimmoli | and it is also available in store | 13:58 |
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| kimmoli | and for writing own apps, i suggest using driverBase class by skvark , e.g here https://github.com/skvark/ChameleonHalf/blob/master/src/driverBase.h | 14:04 |
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| carepack | hey guys, got my jolla today. Everything is fine but can someone advice me to get carddav working? I have all my contacts there | 14:38 |
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| daitheflu | hi guys, I have a n00b question : I have a SilicaListView with several items, and when I click on one of these items, I want to push a "DetailsView" : when/where should I load the data displayed in the DetailsView ? :/ | 15:00 |
| Acce | can you elaborate on that? | 15:01 |
| Acce | what do you mean by loading it? | 15:01 |
| Acce | passing the data to the new page? | 15:01 |
| lukedirtwalker | maybe show some code | 15:01 |
| SK_work | daitheflu: you need to use the properties of pageStack.push | 15:02 |
| SK_work | like | 15:02 |
| daitheflu | For my ListView I just load the minimum amount of data | 15:02 |
| SK_work | pageStack.push(Qt.resolvedUrl("DetailedPage.qml"), {data: model.data}) | 15:02 |
| daitheflu | should I load everything ? | 15:02 |
| SK_work | and in DetailedPage have "property var data" | 15:02 |
| Acce | uhmm you should load it when you want to show it? | 15:03 |
| SK_work | this property will be set automatically | 15:03 |
| Acce | then just show some loading animation, like busy indicator while it loads? | 15:03 |
| daitheflu | SK_work: so everything is already loaded when I'm the ListView ? I thought it was some kind of bad practice :) | 15:03 |
| SK_work | daitheflu: depends on what you load | 15:04 |
| daitheflu | Acce: I can't use a BusyIndicator : I'm using Qt.LocalStorage and I can't use a WorkerScript with this :( | 15:04 |
| SK_work | if your model only loads some name and id, pass the id and name, and then in detailedPage load it | 15:04 |
| SK_work | why can't you use a BusyIndicator ? | 15:05 |
| daitheflu | maybe I could :/ | 15:06 |
| daitheflu | but that's not the real problem here | 15:06 |
| Acce | Try to explain your problem bit more in detail. Are you loading something huge and the UI hangs or something? | 15:07 |
| Zucca | Alright. Time to install Sailfish to my Nexus 7 (grouper). Wish me luck. | 15:07 |
| Acce | Zucca: may the force be with you | 15:08 |
| Zucca | Thanks. :) | 15:08 |
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| SK_work | daitheflu: I think you can | 15:08 |
| SK_work | especially with Qt 5.2 the busyindicator is multithreaded | 15:08 |
| SK_work | animator ftw | 15:08 |
| daitheflu | it's a tasks list, so I think it could be pretty long. Each task has a description, and can have a due date and time, a project, annotations, tags, dependencies... | 15:09 |
| SK_work | daitheflu: two solutions | 15:10 |
| SK_work | 1. use C++ to write a threaded (and threadsafe) way to retrieve data | 15:10 |
| SK_work | 2. test localstorage and the busyindicator and see if it works | 15:10 |
| daitheflu | in the details view, I just want to show the label when a value is set (if no due date, don't show the "Due date : ......." label) | 15:11 |
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| daitheflu | and I'd like to know if can avoid writing a big "refreshUI()" function that would set the visible property + value for each label | 15:13 |
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| daitheflu | SK_work: C++ is not an option for me :( | 15:14 |
| Acce | uhh | 15:14 |
| Acce | why would you want to write something like that? | 15:14 |
| SK_work | daitheflu: how do you do your stuff ? | 15:14 |
| SK_work | for what I understand you have one localstorage | 15:14 |
| SK_work | and you load this in a model to get a list of tasks | 15:14 |
| SK_work | (with tags etc.) | 15:14 |
| daitheflu | Acce: because if I don't, QML tells me that it can't access a property of a null object :) | 15:14 |
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| SK_work | to load the main model, you perform a nice query, and fill your model accordingly (fetching only id, name, tags (?) for the model) | 15:15 |
| SK_work | when clicking on the delegate to push details, you select the info when page is pushed | 15:15 |
| SK_work | daitheflu: show some code | 15:15 |
| daitheflu | for now, for the ListView I just load the task id + the task description | 15:15 |
| daitheflu | when I click on an item, I pass the task id | 15:16 |
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| daitheflu | on the DetailsView, I load all the data for this specific task via the onTaskIdChanged handler | 15:16 |
| Acce | and where do you get the null object complaintment? | 15:16 |
| Acce | when trying to load your data? | 15:17 |
| SK_work | daitheflu: what's this onTaskIdChanged ? | 15:17 |
| SK_work | you can use Component.onCompleted, if the properties has been passed via pageStack.push | 15:17 |
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| daitheflu | I'd rather upload the code on github someday | 15:17 |
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| SK_work | daitheflu: paste.kde.org the DetailedPage and "Main" page | 15:18 |
| SK_work | should be enough :) | 15:18 |
| daitheflu | SK_work: the DetailsView has a "property int taskId" | 15:18 |
| Acce | the null object thingy sounds like you're referring to an object which is automatically destroyed when the listview becomes non-visible | 15:18 |
| daitheflu | and I switch to the DetailsView with pageStack.push(..., {taskId: taskId}) | 15:18 |
| Acce | since the listview dynamically creates the delegates, depending on if they should be visible or not.. but not sure, since no idea how've you done it :) | 15:19 |
| SK_work | daitheflu: show the DetailsView code | 15:19 |
| daitheflu | Acce: wrongly, obviously :D | 15:19 |
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| daitheflu | yep, just let me polish it a bit, it's become a mess | 15:19 |
| daitheflu | pasted on http://paste.kde.org/pvyjwsc0o | 15:24 |
| SK_work | got it | 15:26 |
| SK_work | you are using task.status in the pulley menu even if the task might be null | 15:26 |
| daitheflu | I always have troubles when it comes to loading data with QML, I really need to understand that once for all | 15:26 |
| SK_work | so, 2 solutions here | 15:26 |
| SK_work | you are not doing it badly | 15:26 |
| daitheflu | SK_work: in the pulley + others places | 15:26 |
| SK_work | except the refreshUI that is not useful here | 15:26 |
| SK_work | yes | 15:26 |
| daitheflu | ah :) | 15:27 |
| SK_work | you can easily bind description.text with task.description | 15:27 |
| SK_work | just leave the bindings at it, keep most of the stuff declarative | 15:27 |
| daitheflu | okay, I'm giving it a try | 15:28 |
| SK_work | same for the getStatus, getPriority | 15:28 |
| SK_work | bind everything, it sjhouldn't change much | 15:28 |
| SK_work | instead of visible: task.status === ... better consider hiding the parent component (the silicaflickable) | 15:29 |
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| SK_work | ha, sorry, they are visible for different reasons | 15:30 |
| daitheflu | SK_work: yep, basically, I just show them if the user set a value | 15:30 |
| SK_work | instead of having onTaskIndexChanged, should cosider using Component.onCompleted | 15:30 |
| SK_work | the taskIndex won't change during the life of the component | 15:31 |
| SK_work | and if you don't want cannot read status of null, consider using | 15:31 |
| SK_work | visible: task != null ? task.status === "something" : false | 15:31 |
| SK_work | :) | 15:31 |
| SK_work | Qt.rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.2) => replace this with Theme.secondaryColor | 15:32 |
| SK_work | or something like this | 15:32 |
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| daitheflu | thanks a lot :) | 15:33 |
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| daitheflu | seems like it's working :D Thanks a lot guys ( SK_work, Acce ) ! | 15:44 |
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| Acce | np, although I didn't do much in the end :) hope to try your app soon | 16:02 |
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| * Zucca has succesfully installed SailfishOS on his Nexus 7 grouper. | 16:19 | |
| Acce | Zucca: cool :) how's the scaling? | 16:21 |
| Zucca | Acce: Not very accurate it seems. | 16:22 |
| Zucca | I guess I need to install latest update... | 16:23 |
| Acce | well, I'm not sure if for example the scaled icons were even there yet.. but they were mentioned to be in the works | 16:24 |
| Acce | some time ago | 16:24 |
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| Zucca | Hm. What's the default password for nemo? | 16:56 |
| Zucca | I need to change it. | 16:56 |
| urjaman | the one you set in the remote access configuration thingy | 16:56 |
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| Nicd- | in dev mode settings | 16:57 |
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| Zucca | Ok. | 16:57 |
| Zucca | Roger. | 16:57 |
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| Nicd- | would be nice to get screenshots | 16:58 |
| Nicd- | I'd like to see what sailtime looks on that :D | 16:58 |
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| daitheflu | gotta go, thanks again for your help, see you tomorrow for another newbie question ;) | 17:15 |
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| jwalck | hey, anyone else using addons with the built in sailfish browser? about:addons sticks at a spinning wheel for me under Uitukka | 17:20 |
| jwalck | and I cannot scroll on the page at all, just see the top left in either portrait or landscape | 17:21 |
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